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Log for #openttd on 30th June 2011:
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00:09:18  <lord-carlos> uff, those light signals are hard to understand
00:18:35  <Eddi|zuHause> red = stop, green = go
00:18:49  <Eddi|zuHause> not difficult at all :p
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02:23:53  <H-land> Some signals confuse me, but others really don't... What I really ought to ask, though.
02:24:39  <H-land> Using FIRS, I can't seem to get oil rigs or fisheries to grow like I can most land based wossnames. Is there something I should be doing?
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02:56:42  <HelloNickname> hi, I've read on a forum that trains are not getting full but I am getting very bad load in some of my trains, is there a way to improve this
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03:02:59  <PLPLPLPL> sorry, I had a bad irc client, repeating myself: hi, I've read on a forum that trains are not getting full but I am getting very bad load in some of my trains, is there a way to improve this
03:06:28  <H-land> I don't understand what you're trying to say.
03:06:53  <H-land> Do you mean that you're concerned that your trains aren't making (enough) money because they're leaving before they're full?
03:17:30  <PLPLPLPL> yes
03:17:37  <PLPLPLPL> they don't get filled by the nearby industry
03:17:54  <PLPLPLPL> let say when I built it I had four cars for coal
03:18:06  <PLPLPLPL> they were getting full now they are about half-full
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03:23:56  <PLPLPLPLPL> H-land u there ?
03:24:14  <H-land> Yes, but I wasn't looking here. Sorry.
03:24:24  <H-land> Do you have it ordered to wait for a full load?
03:27:12  <PLPLPLPLPL> no
03:27:14  <PLPLPLPLPL> should I
03:28:24  <H-land> Yes. Otherwise, they'll just take whatever's lying around when they're at the station and leave.
03:28:53  <H-land> It's not what I'd advise using for passenger trains, but for freight like coal, yes.
03:29:31  <PLPLPLPLPL> another thing
03:29:39  <PLPLPLPLPL> I had one station forking into two different path
03:29:44  <PLPLPLPLPL> on the same exit of that station
03:30:03  <PLPLPLPLPL> because of mutually exclusivity of two trains going in two different direction, it was working fine
03:30:27  <H-land> I might need to see a screenshot here; I'm not understanding the spacial relationship here.
03:30:34  <PLPLPLPLPL> sure
03:30:37  <PLPLPLPLPL> well
03:30:42  <PLPLPLPLPL> that's fine
03:30:50  <PLPLPLPLPL> I'll keep on practicing with the lights before
03:30:57  <PLPLPLPLPL> thanks for your support
03:31:30  <H-land> Mmhmm.
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04:20:34  <SaintMacintosh> hey who knows ai scripting and squirrel?
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04:26:18  <SaintMacintosh> any one here?
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05:34:20  <SaintMacintosh> does any one know NoAI and squirrel?
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06:42:35  <SaintMacintosh> hello
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06:46:31  <SaintMacintosh> hello
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07:07:47  <Terkhen> good morning
07:11:03  <lord-carlos> stupid game .. it's 9AM and i am still awake >.>
07:15:02  <Terkhen> :)
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09:05:29  <planetmaker> good day
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09:42:05  <wiggy> hi all
09:43:22  <fjb> Moin
09:43:54  <wiggy> hows things?
09:46:56  <planetmaker> g'day
09:51:46  <wiggy> does anyone know if the 2010 version of visual c++ express can be used to compile openttd as the 2008 one doesnt seem to be available any more
09:52:10  <peter1138> try it
09:53:08  <wiggy> im going to but need to download it and didnt want to waste time and bandwidth if it wasnt going to work thats all
09:54:29  <Sacro> wiggy: should be fine
09:54:34  <Sacro> same compiler
09:54:50  <wiggy> cheers sacro
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10:15:20  <Terkhen> wiggy: yes, it can be used
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10:51:49  <Wolf01> hello
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10:56:41  <Terkhen> hi Wolf01
11:04:36  <Eddi|zuHause> the TOC of the callback page is totally confusing
11:05:03  <Eddi|zuHause> better if the numbers are disabled in the TOC
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11:36:34  <Ammler> ap_cmd rescan_newgrf
11:36:36  <Ammler> [2011-06-30 11:35:55] dbg: [misc] The file 'content_download/data/AveiMils_PIGM-0.3.tar' isn't a valid tar-file
11:36:55  <Ammler> delete the files and try again?
11:38:31  <Ammler> looks like an old file
11:39:18  <__ln__> off-topic: gibt es weihnachtsmarkten und glÃŒhwein in der schweiz?
11:39:44  <peter1138> udp or tcp?
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11:40:03  <Ammler> __ln__: yes, but of course not that big as in Germany
11:40:51  <__ln__> ok
11:41:12  <Ammler> kinda relative to the city size :-)
11:41:40  <Ammler> and our biggest city has 400k, so you can imagine yourself :-P
11:43:56  <Ammler> peter1138: question to me? we use content command to download stuff
11:44:10  <peter1138> question for anyone
11:44:20  <Ammler> ok, then yes :-P
11:45:13  <__ln__> anyone? ok, in that case i meant tcp glÃŒhwein
11:52:48  <Eddi|zuHause> i'll take TCP GlÃŒhwein as well
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12:12:18  <Eddi|zuHause> "lower saxony's 'police vulture' program to use birds instead of sniffer dogs to find bodies doesn't 'take off' as expected" :p
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12:32:43  <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.zackenbahn.de/images/fahrzeuge/et87/et87_tz.jpg <-- anyone can decipher these numbers?
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12:37:23  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc (42520-10750)/2
12:37:23  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 15885
12:37:53  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 10750/24000
12:37:53  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 0.447916666667
12:37:58  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 10750/24000*16
12:37:58  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 7.16666666667
12:38:12  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 15885/24000*16
12:38:12  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 10.59
12:39:03  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 10750/26000*16
12:39:03  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 6.61538461538
12:39:09  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 15885/26000*16
12:39:10  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 9.77538461538
12:40:37  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, could do 10+8+10 and cheat a little with the length?
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12:47:50  <lugo> German Signals v0.4 has an aligment error with PBS semaphores; at least the version i get from bananas/forums
12:47:59  <lugo> anyone know of a fixed version? :)
12:51:20  <Sacro> check bananas/forums?
12:57:04  <lugo> yeah, it's the same file...
12:59:30  * lugo wonders why noone told the author
12:59:36  * lugo will have to grave digg
13:06:00  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i don't think i understand blender...
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13:58:22  <lugo> Thanks Eddi|zuHause :)
14:00:06  <Eddi|zuHause> lugo: it's actually a really old bug from nsignalsw, which probably was just copy-pasted
14:02:28  <Eddi|zuHause> check this image from 2006: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/nsignalswbugbig.png
14:02:51  <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea if that was ever fixed, thoug
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17:08:31  <ZirconiumX> Hello all
17:09:14  <ZirconiumX> Is the fact that the server is moving the reason why there are no Mac binaries?
17:10:46  <glx> probably yes
17:13:09  <ZirconiumX> explains everything
17:13:16  * ZirconiumX promptly waits
17:13:25  <ZirconiumX> still no binary
17:13:31  * ZirconiumX throws tantrum
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17:43:20  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r22612 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/ (basque.txt thai.txt):
17:43:20  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:43:20  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: basque - 7 changes by Thadah
17:43:20  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: thai - 18 changes by nirakanz
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18:14:44  <Ashiren> good evening
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18:15:20  <Ashiren> is there any detailed server cheker for php/python? mostly online/offline status but other info like users number would be cool too
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18:20:54  <Ammler> Ashiren: there are some libs for, but no complete app
18:21:07  <Ammler> at least for python and java
18:21:17  <Ashiren> i see
18:21:32  <Ashiren> but simple status checker is available?
18:21:40  <Ashiren> the only one i found parses the server list tab
18:21:47  <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/admintools
18:21:54  <Ashiren> thank you
18:21:59  <Ammler> the pyhton lib is on bitcket, afaik
18:22:11  <Ammler> bitbucket*
18:23:17  <Ammler> Ashiren: we use openttdlib, a php app which is not using the new interface
18:23:32  <Ammler> e.g. www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable
18:23:58  <Ammler> or s/stable/p{s,z}/
18:28:53  <Ashiren> i appreciate your help
18:28:54  <Ashiren> bye
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18:32:44  <andythenorth> evenings
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19:06:24  <Wolf01> hello
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21:18:42  <Eddi|zuHause> he forgot the call-operator
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21:26:58  <Wolf01> 'night
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21:36:16  <Terkhen> good night
21:37:50  <Eddi|zuHause> wtf? there's a "DB XL 1.0" on bananas :p
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21:50:39  <Hirundo> OpenTTD tells me the grf is already on my pc
21:50:52  <Hirundo> "DB Set, gefunden im Netz. Credits gehen an den Author, leider kann ich nicht sagen wer das ist."
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21:57:20  <Eddi|zuHause> sounds highly suspicious
21:57:39  <supermop> ha
22:02:28  <Eddi|zuHause> but i thought bananas rejects all "known" grf-ids?
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22:05:36  <Hirundo> where does it look for such 'known' grfids?
22:05:52  <planetmaker> data and content_download/data
22:06:08  <planetmaker> but bananas does not reject all 'known' grfs
22:06:22  <planetmaker> actually none. Except those whose grfID is already uploaded
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22:06:34  <planetmaker> and dbxl IS uploaded
22:06:44  <planetmaker> but just made unavailable to all, thus blocked
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22:07:04  <planetmaker> others had that bright idea before this current occurance
22:07:18  <Eddi|zuHause> i was once told all mb-ids got "banned", because people frequently uploaded them
22:07:39  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: yes, they actually are. By having them due to those actions already there.
22:07:47  <planetmaker> and double grfID doesn't work
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22:08:25  <Ammler> stupid bananas rule
22:08:42  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: so how can this happen?
22:11:28  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: dunno. Other grfID?
22:11:45  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: but why would it then say the grf already is downloaded?
22:12:05  <planetmaker> maybe it is the grfID of a manually added grf?
22:12:12  <planetmaker> I haven't tested it nor can I right now
22:13:01  <Eddi|zuHause> the download window doesn't say the grfid/md5sum
22:13:11  <Eddi|zuHause> and it's not on binaries.openttd.org
22:14:00  <planetmaker> not yet probably. It's not immediately synced
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22:19:44  <Ammler> or an older version not available anymore
22:20:53  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 282133/1024
22:20:53  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 275.520507812
22:21:52  <Ammler> Rubidium: published from time to time a list with grfids
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23:24:52  <Eddi|zuHause> "Bundestag [german parliament] decides shutdown of all nuclear power stations until 2022 with vast majority"
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23:50:53  <DanMacK> Hey All
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