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00:55:32 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:26:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B729A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:28:48 *** Rezt [~Rezt@cpc1-brig12-0-0-cust500.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/] 01:30:35 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:31:40 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B73355.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:31:52 <Eddi|zuHause> that was weird... 01:32:07 <Eddi|zuHause> connection disappeared without any apparent reason 01:32:33 <supermop> ierd 01:36:23 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 02:01:23 <supermop> not sure what, if anything, i should draw for ottd 02:32:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i could give you a list of engines ;) 02:36:55 <supermop> never drawn a vehicle thusfar 02:37:52 <supermop> i have some rhino models of buildings/stations/bridges, and then pixel art of sheds, but i am having trouble motivating myself to work on either 02:39:08 <supermop> i need to recruit a coder 02:51:28 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1d0c:bf21:dd:a6b7] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:53:26 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B73355.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:53:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B72E95.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:58:29 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 05:06:22 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 05:10:42 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 05:36:37 *** bodis [~bodis@cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust781.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:50:34 *** Amis [~Amis@mail.paks.hu] has joined #openttd 06:08:47 *** Maarten_ [~dutchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:08:59 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 06:18:44 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 06:25:31 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:32:31 *** heffer [~felix@hyperion.fetzig.org] has joined #openttd 06:41:57 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-151-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:42:24 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-151-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:45:00 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 06:54:55 <dihedral> mornings :-) 07:33:20 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:33:23 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 07:47:49 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFF47E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:01:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:15:33 <Terkhen> good morning 08:28:24 <planetmaker> moin 08:39:16 <peter1138> so, last shuttle launch today, maybe 08:39:41 <planetmaker> yeah :-( 08:39:48 * Alberth forgot to book a shuttle flight :( 08:40:34 <planetmaker> http://www.blueorigin.com/nsresearch.html <-- book there 08:40:39 <planetmaker> next flight somewhen 2012 08:40:53 <planetmaker> and actually... equipment of my working group is booked in there :-P 08:41:21 <planetmaker> they don't dare to launch humans yet, though :-( 08:42:21 * Alberth was expecting a website of the commercial space flights :) 08:42:41 <planetmaker> http://www.virgingalactic.com/booking/ <-- "cheap" flight opportunities also there 08:42:47 <planetmaker> Alberth: it is 08:43:34 <Alberth> yeah, that one :) 08:43:59 <planetmaker> also the first one ;-) - though indeed I don't find a booking option 08:45:06 <Alberth> no worries, you're not rich enough yet 08:45:22 <planetmaker> yeah :-( 08:45:36 <planetmaker> I guess one has to own Amazon in order to apply... :S 08:45:45 <planetmaker> (blue origin is owned by its founder) 08:50:52 *** bryjen [~bryjen@76.92.85.169] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:50:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AF5C.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:55:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AF5C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:21:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D9B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:31:58 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:33:12 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-019-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:37:46 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:57:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D9B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26:10 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08ff75.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:36:26 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 10:48:58 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1422 10:48:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.139.15] has joined #openttd 10:49:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.139.15] has left #openttd [] 10:55:13 *** Guest1422 [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:58:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D9B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:05:44 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:08:50 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 11:14:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6BF58.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:19:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AF5C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:16 <__ln__> they're on their way to the shuttle 12:11:13 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:bdfd:459b:bb9a:40ca] has joined #openttd 12:11:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:41:26 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:07:34 *** Markavian [~Markavian@220-245-91-25.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:09:10 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 13:17:17 *** stefan [~stefan@p5098b65a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:23:07 <Belugas> hello 13:23:26 <Belugas> missed the bus, this morning. 13:23:36 <Belugas> damned bus 13:27:50 <Alberth> bus was too early? 13:28:51 <Belugas> naaa... the man was too slow 13:29:16 <Belugas> like... it's summer, i don't have to rush kid to school, i was reading a book while walking to to bus stup etc etc 13:29:30 <Belugas> and it's soooo good to be outside ;) 13:31:40 <Alberth> so you wanted to enjoy outside a little longer, sounds like a good reason :) 13:44:53 <Belugas> not willingly, yes :) 13:45:15 <Belugas> subconscience slowed my walk, I guess 13:47:43 *** bodis [~bodis@cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust781.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:52:28 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.114.200] has joined #openttd 14:06:02 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-019-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:12:59 *** Amis [~Amis@mail.paks.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:18:45 *** sla_ro|vista [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 14:22:09 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:23:33 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-019-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:28:10 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:39:48 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r22643 /trunk/src/object_cmd.cpp: -Fix: Disallow building NewObjects on water tiles owned by another company. 14:45:01 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFF141.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:51:22 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 14:54:25 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-28-68.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:54:44 *** Amis [~Amis@5400EBA0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openttd 14:57:37 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED2BEAE.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:58:32 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 15:02:21 *** Amis_ [~Amis@5400EBA0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openttd 15:02:22 *** Amis_ [~Amis@5400EBA0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [] 15:03:17 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd350.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:17:34 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED2BEAE.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:19:01 <peter1138> T-5:30 15:19:01 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19:29 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 15:24:42 <MNIM> hmmmh. has anybody ever thought of orbital transports for ttd? 15:25:00 <Zuu> I'm sure someone has though about it. 15:25:23 <MNIM> bah. stuck at T-31 seconds 15:26:12 <MNIM> running again 15:26:39 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:27:22 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 15:31:01 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:32:08 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 15:32:09 *** sla_ro|vista [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:31 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:53:09 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.114.200] has quit [Quit: .] 15:54:21 <MNIM> lol, forum sigs 15:54:26 <MNIM> Worst Behaved IRC Member of 2008! - Wahoo! 15:54:26 <MNIM> Worst Behaved IRC Member of 2009! - Yay! 15:54:26 <MNIM> Worst Behaved IRC Member of 2010! - Even though i'm not even there anymore. How bad can I be? 15:54:47 <MNIM> guess he'll lose his title this year. >:P 15:55:28 <supermop> was fun to watch 15:57:12 <MNIM> what was? 15:57:32 *** staN [~Miranda@p5B177595.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:57:47 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-28-68.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:03:51 <supermop> shuttle rolling over 16:04:17 <MNIM> oh. 16:19:24 *** ar3k [~ident@ebw71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 16:25:02 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecn253.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:26:57 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-019-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 16:33:46 <Eddi|zuHause> wait... shuttles play dead? 16:34:45 <Chris_Booth> they do if they are american 16:37:11 <Eddi|zuHause> well, russian shuttles never made it off the ground ;) 16:40:13 <MNIM> actually, they did, but not with human passengers :P 16:42:53 <supermop> lets have an ESA shuttle 16:43:58 <MNIM> mweh. I doubt any shuttle system similar to the exisiting american/russian will still have the same problems. 16:44:03 <MNIM> IE risky and expensive 16:46:00 <supermop> yep 16:46:32 <supermop> but there is certainly going to be a capacity gap until there is a replacement 16:46:52 *** ginkgobitter [~ginkgobit@p5DD05DE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:48:02 *** ginkgobitter [~ginkgobit@p5DD05DE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 16:50:53 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 16:51:16 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:53:48 <MNIM> hmmmmh. 16:54:00 <MNIM> ask the russians to whip something up with the energia 16:54:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:54:32 <MNIM> knowing the russians, they'll build the rocket faster than it took the apollo 13 to get back home 16:54:34 <__ln__> i guess it'll be chinese shuttles next 16:54:45 <Eddi|zuHause> the americans had a lot of time to find a replacement system, they didn't use it properly 16:55:12 <supermop> no, we had lots of time, but little money 16:55:30 <supermop> because NASA isnt as glamorous to congress as it used to be 16:55:46 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: that is a symptom, not the cause 16:55:52 <__ln__> fortunately the money was well spent in iraq and afghanistan 16:56:06 <supermop> plus 8 years of a government that starved Nasa of funding due to its stance on climate change 16:56:12 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd350.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:56:20 <supermop> we could have paid for both 16:56:34 <supermop> we just had a government that didn't want to 16:56:37 <andythenorth> meh 16:56:39 <andythenorth> space is silly 16:57:34 <__ln__> how does the US intend to get the starfleet headquarters into San Francisco with that attitude 16:59:08 <supermop> i assume that in 400 years governments might be very different 17:00:05 <Eddi|zuHause> just compare it with the governments 400 years ago :p 17:01:06 <supermop> anyway the hole goerge bush fort of mars is indeed silly 17:01:26 <supermop> but there is plenty of serious work to be done in orbit and with satelites 17:01:54 <supermop> plus NASA can, and should do serious work regarding climate and geology 17:02:09 <supermop> and not be collared due to politics 17:02:39 <Eddi|zuHause> nah, it'll all get "outsourced" to india and china 17:03:02 <supermop> we thats fine too 17:03:07 <andythenorth> US military space programme spending is believed to far exceed NASA's, so it's ok, the US still spend on space ;) 17:03:07 <supermop> *well 17:03:09 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:bdfd:459b:bb9a:40ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03:15 * andythenorth will now do other stuff 17:03:19 <supermop> exactly andy: 17:03:30 <Eddi|zuHause> meanwhile the europeans get settled in their starting places in french guyana and kasachstan 17:03:30 <supermop> we need more academic research money 17:03:36 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:bdfd:459b:bb9a:40ca] has joined #openttd 17:03:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:08:02 <Belugas> # we need love and peace! 17:09:23 <supermop> yep 17:09:31 <andythenorth> we need the US to not default on debt 17:09:32 <Eddi|zuHause> "Wollt ihr das TOTALE WELTRAUMPROGRAMM?" 17:09:37 <andythenorth> or perhaps we don't care 17:09:47 <andythenorth> perhaps a US default might be good for us 17:09:58 <Eddi|zuHause> it probably would be 17:09:58 <andythenorth> if the world economy collapses - lots more time for ottd 17:10:08 <andythenorth> I could finish these stupid river banks 17:10:14 <andythenorth> whilst stockpiling tins of beans 17:10:15 <andythenorth> and gungs 17:10:17 <andythenorth> guns /s 17:10:19 <Eddi|zuHause> there's currently a race who can delay their default further, the EU or the USA 17:10:27 <supermop> well, that is unlikely, as we can just massively devalue our currency if it comes to that 17:10:57 <supermop> but there is a big fear in the US of what is essentially short term debt 17:10:59 <MNIM> Bah. Why do people develop a patch, a feature or a grf and then not show in a screenshot what it looks like? 17:11:43 <MNIM> it's like building a fucking car, hiding under a sheet and then trying to get customers to sign the purchase papers before they have ever seen the thing! 17:11:53 <supermop> but we can actually handle greater debt in the short term fairly well (even though it is unpopular with populist pseudo libertarian groups) 17:11:54 <MNIM> *hiding it under... 17:12:11 <supermop> what our problem is is long term debt 17:12:15 <Alberth> not all patches can be usefully screenshotted 17:12:19 <andythenorth> MNIM: tell them in the thread no? 17:12:21 <supermop> on the scale of the next 50-70 years 17:12:48 <supermop> whith rising healthcare costs et cetera 17:13:02 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: no, what your problem is is that the likes of china don't want to buy any more of your debts 17:13:38 <supermop> they like to buy it so long as we dont let our currency devalue, and they dont have to let theirs appreciate 17:14:15 <MNIM> don't have a forum account 17:14:38 <supermop> what we need is to ensure strong regrowth in the short to medium term, so that we can pay for the huge wall of cost that is coming in a few decades 17:14:42 <Belugas> yup, forums accounts are hard to get :) 17:15:07 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: that is exactly the point, the USA has constantly been devaluating their currency over the last 10 years 17:15:33 <supermop> which is actually good for us 17:15:35 * Belugas wonders: what would it be like for a country to bankrupt? 17:15:37 <supermop> bad for china 17:15:58 <andythenorth> MNIM: bah. Why do people complain about forum threads lacking stuff, but then not register an account ;) 17:16:01 <andythenorth> :D :P etc 17:16:23 <supermop> but china has problems of its own to worry about, as its middle class grows, they will need greater purchasing power 17:16:24 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: that has happened plenty of times over the past centuries 17:16:45 <supermop> which will hurt their manufacturing capacity 17:16:56 <supermop> so it will be hard to balance 17:17:01 <MNIM> andy: because I haven't seen anything worth making a forum account yet 17:17:04 <MNIM> anyway, dinnertime 17:17:14 <supermop> but has already happened for better or worse in europe and the us 17:17:46 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: and there's still a chance we might see that happening with greece in the near future 17:17:57 <supermop> yeah 17:17:59 <Eddi|zuHause> or spain, or portugal, or ireland 17:18:18 <Eddi|zuHause> and if it's going really bad, even italy 17:18:27 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:18:28 <Belugas> right 17:18:29 <supermop> ireland and portugal seem to coping better than greece 17:18:37 <supermop> but italy is a big problem 17:20:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i know there's lots of players in that game, but it might lead to a common european economical government 17:21:01 <supermop> or it might break up the euro 17:21:26 <Eddi|zuHause> that is not a contradiction 17:21:29 <supermop> germany would be better out without a few Greece's on the periphery 17:21:35 <supermop> *off 17:21:58 <Eddi|zuHause> on the contrary 17:22:22 <Eddi|zuHause> germany is the greatest benefactor from having the likes of spain and greece in the euro 17:22:32 <supermop> the problem would be keeping the peripheral emerging european economies viable markets for central 'strong' europe to export to 17:23:11 <supermop> the euro helps that greatly by inflating those countries purchasing power 17:24:14 <Eddi|zuHause> it's kinda funny, the euro was the invention of the WWII victorial powers (france, britain, USA) to keep a unified germany at bay, but in effect, it has made germany stronger ;) 17:24:24 <supermop> Eddi, what would you think of a more federalized european goverment/economy? 17:24:58 <Eddi|zuHause> what do you mean by "federalized" 17:25:01 <Belugas> but it's a bit of an irony, though... a country goes bankupt, but unlike a real company, it does not cease to exist. It will face hard time, granted, but will go on 17:25:10 <supermop> it has had the effect of making war between two european powers untenable, so thats good 17:25:31 <supermop> most bankrupt companies carry on 17:25:59 <supermop> they have to go through tough processes, but emerge in one form or another 17:26:34 <supermop> i guess by federalized, i mean more centralized organization of the economy 17:27:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i think you mix up the meaning of "federalized" there 17:27:20 <supermop> one 'economy' for the core of the euro, instead of several closely bound 'economies' 17:27:38 <supermop> not one state though, 17:28:38 <Eddi|zuHause> "federalized" means "separately, but working together" 17:29:04 <supermop> yes 17:29:50 <supermop> i would say that the current european powers are not even at a federal level yet, 17:30:20 <andythenorth> 1/16 of rivers are drawn :) :| :( 17:39:18 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:07 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: no, and it's a very difficult way to get there. somebody will always think they're screwed over if they have to give away sovereign powers 17:41:16 <Eddi|zuHause> there's always a chance the euro-sceptics rise in power in some country, like denmark, or czechia 17:43:16 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 17:43:35 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48:06 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: there is probably never going to be a system similar to the american structure. the existance of nations in europe will always get in the way of that 17:51:21 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1447 17:51:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:52:09 *** Guest1447 [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:15 *** stefan [~stefan@p5098b65a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:57:13 <Eddi|zuHause> that is a great description of the 2ccSet: "Considering we already have a quite long depot list, a few additional [...] shouldn't make much difference." 17:57:25 <Terkhen> :D 17:57:40 * Terkhen will end up making a patch to get only the metro trains 17:58:43 <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't it have parameters for that yet? 17:58:51 <Terkhen> nope 17:58:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought that kind of parameter was discussed quite a while ago 17:59:08 <Terkhen> I have been waiting for those parameters for months :P 17:59:33 <Terkhen> it was discussed but, to my knowledge, never implemented 18:00:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i guess it comes down to a "just do it" situation 18:04:21 <andythenorth> it's an easy parameter :P 18:05:35 *** Lapland [~h-land@pool-74-96-70-214.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:10:27 <supermop> has Dj been coding lately? 18:20:31 <MNIM> back. 18:23:56 *** bryjen [~bryjen@76.92.85.169] has joined #openttd 18:25:22 <Eddi|zuHause> probably not 18:26:18 <supermop> i was asked if some of my sheds could be used by nutracks, but as far as i know it hasn't happened 18:27:03 <Eddi|zuHause> "Der cottbusser Postkutscher putzt seinen cottbusser Postkutschkasten" 18:27:42 <supermop> wait what is being cleaned here? 18:28:39 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.cottbuserpostkutscher.de/ 18:29:33 <Eddi|zuHause> google insists that it should be written with one s... 18:29:59 <supermop> google translate doesnt translate cottbusser 18:30:09 <Eddi|zuHause> very unlikely 18:30:16 <Eddi|zuHause> Cottbus is a city 18:30:31 <Eddi|zuHause> so a cottbus(s)er is someone from Cottbus 18:30:46 <supermop> so this is a carriage for this city 18:30:53 <supermop> and it cleans something? 18:31:11 <Eddi|zuHause> no, the driver cleans it 18:31:48 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, it's actually a tongue twister 18:34:04 <supermop> ahh ok 18:34:23 <supermop> i need a new german dictionary 18:34:33 <supermop> also i need to get lunch 18:34:37 <supermop> back later 18:35:02 <Eddi|zuHause> german dictionaries tend to be difficult to read if you have no clue how to concatenate words ;) 18:35:33 <__ln__> but the U-bahn station is actually Kottbusser Tor, funny 18:35:52 <supermop> i used to be pretty efficient with one 18:36:01 <supermop> when i was studying german 18:36:03 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: who ever said people from berlin know how to spell? :p 18:36:22 <supermop> later 18:36:29 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 18:37:38 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, the city's real name in lower sorbian is actually ChóÅebuz 18:40:01 *** APTX_ [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:46 *** sliddy [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 18:45:46 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:48:47 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 19:01:33 <Eddi|zuHause> "Wer anderen eine Grube grÀbt, der hat ein GrubengrabgerÀt" 19:01:44 <MNIM> wass> 19:01:46 <MNIM> ? 19:01:50 <Eddi|zuHause> "Wer anderen eine Bratwurst brÀt, der hat ein BratwurstbratgerÀt" 19:02:21 <MNIM> ah. 19:02:30 <Eddi|zuHause> "Wer gegen ein Minimum an Aluminium immun ist, besitzt AluminiumminimumimmunitÀt" 19:05:01 <MNIM> Ouch, eddi, that hurts my brain trying to translate it 19:05:11 <planetmaker> :-D Nice word 19:05:16 <planetmaker> good evening 19:05:39 <andythenorth> pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis 19:06:52 <Eddi|zuHause> MNIM: what's difficult in translation there? just replace -Àt with -y 19:07:39 <Eddi|zuHause> unless you're american, then you also have to remove one i from Aluminium 19:07:49 <MNIM> Well, Im neither 19:07:54 <MNIM> I live, like next door. 19:08:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly sure you're closer to andythenorth than to me ;) 19:08:22 * __ln__ muà wahrscheinlich morgen deutsch in der real life sprechen 19:08:38 <MNIM> but I think the main issue is that a hugely long word like that triggers some kind of latent disleksion or something ;) 19:08:55 <andythenorth> stupid rivers 19:09:07 <MNIM> also, there's at least a whole atlantic ocean between me and andy if I have to believe his hostmask 19:09:11 <Eddi|zuHause> MNIM: well, in that particular case, it's kinda meant to do that :p 19:09:19 <MNIM> oh. 19:09:21 <MNIM> ouch. 19:09:22 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:09:27 * MNIM whacks eddi on the head 19:09:35 <andythenorth> hmm 19:10:16 <fjb> __ln__: Your German is quite good. 19:10:24 <andythenorth> there are two types of terrain in arctic and tropic 19:10:31 <andythenorth> so I have only done 1/24 of the stupid rivers 19:10:47 * andythenorth should whine less and draw more 19:11:48 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: you included toyland in that? :p 19:12:02 <andythenorth> kind of have to 19:12:27 <MNIM> well, toyland could be skipped, since it isn't /meant/ to look realistic 19:12:35 <Eddi|zuHause> MNIM: what do you mean? a traceroute from here to andythenorth goes Leipzig->Frankfurt->London->Manchester 19:12:59 <andythenorth> oh god 19:13:03 <andythenorth> they know where I am :P 19:13:07 <andythenorth> not hugely accurately 19:13:19 <MNIM> eh, he shows to me as having a cable virgin, and being in internic commercial. 19:13:34 <MNIM> which is america 19:13:53 <Eddi|zuHause> MNIM: they're not allowed to have a "virgin cable" in britain? 19:13:55 <planetmaker> you err 19:14:03 <planetmaker> virgin is in many places 19:14:09 <__ln__> fjb: danke, obwohl schreibe ich besser als ich spreche. 19:14:11 <andythenorth> http://tt-foundry.com/misc/better_shores_n_plus_1.png 19:14:23 <andythenorth> the ones with coloured dots and such are...not done :P 19:14:43 <fjb> __ln__: Then you should speak more. ;-) 19:14:44 <MNIM> well, as far as I know virgin is American, and besides that, Internic Commercial as country code means america 19:14:45 <planetmaker> sweet, andythenorth :-) 19:14:49 <andythenorth> I haven't done any corner pieces. would anyone notice? 19:14:55 <MNIM> so unless he's being proxy'd 19:15:04 <andythenorth> they're as-decoded-from-the-grf 19:15:34 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: that reminds me of when SmatZ called and my mother answered the phone, afterwards my mother said SmatZ spoke good german, while SmatZ said he spoke bad german :p 19:15:51 <MNIM> lol 19:16:05 <__ln__> heh 19:16:14 <andythenorth> it's pretty easy to see where I am 19:16:28 <MNIM> well, as long as they don't speak it as bad as I do, no disasters are bound to happen. 19:16:34 <Eddi|zuHause> that was on the way to r20k 19:16:35 <andythenorth> virgin even give away the switch number I think 19:16:55 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i'm sure there are pretty detailed geoip-databases out there 19:16:57 <MNIM> I can read, and to an extent, understand, but speaking is beyond my capabilities 19:16:59 <planetmaker> MNIM: choose one: http://www.virgin.com/company 19:17:33 <MNIM> wait, that's all the same country? 19:17:35 <andythenorth> whichever geo IP suggests manchester is a bit off 19:17:38 <MNIM> ehh, I mean, company? 19:17:55 <andythenorth> 'adult friend finder' ads manage to locate me pretty accurately :P 19:18:01 <MNIM> lol 19:18:12 <planetmaker> and... virgin is a UK-based holding ;-) 19:18:15 <andythenorth> aztw is a big clue for those in the know 19:18:16 *** sliddy [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:18:24 <andythenorth> anyways 19:18:29 <fjb> r30k is far too far away... 19:18:32 <andythenorth> someone answer my question about river corners? 19:19:21 <Alberth> not until they try to make a 2 tile wide stupid river :) 19:19:36 <Eddi|zuHause> fjb: but we missed r22222 19:19:40 <MNIM> saw it. looks nice, I just hope you;ll be doing better rapids as other river .grf-s out there 19:19:48 <planetmaker> andythenorth: anyone - maybe. someone: sure 19:19:53 <fjb> Oh... :-( 19:21:15 <andythenorth> ok so I leave all the tiny corner pieces until someone complains 19:21:20 <andythenorth> there are a boring amount of them 19:21:26 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: interestingly, those ads randomly show me any minor city in a ~30km radius, but not the major city ;) 19:21:36 <andythenorth> most of you have no idea what corner pieces I refer to :P 19:21:51 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: maybe they're gaming you to think they're more specific 19:22:01 <Alberth> andythenorth: and you need some work for the next version :p 19:22:23 <andythenorth> Alberth: ? 19:22:27 <Eddi|zuHause> none of them managed to pick the right village, though ;) 19:22:41 <Alberth> andythenorth: removal of the corner pieces :) 19:22:57 <andythenorth> they're being removed? 19:23:03 * andythenorth is confused somewhat 19:23:08 <andythenorth> maybe I should have a beer 19:23:17 <Chris_Booth> beer 19:23:19 <Chris_Booth> <3 19:23:40 <MNIM> coding always gets better with beer, right 19:23:59 <Chris_Booth> yeah 19:25:05 <glx> or not 19:25:06 <MNIM> What the fuck. 19:25:16 <MNIM> apparently whatsmyip.org crashes my mozilla 19:26:40 <MNIM> WEL GODVERDOMME 19:26:45 <MNIM> that's the third time! 19:29:56 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host98-94-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:30:56 <Wolf01> helo 19:31:04 <MNIM> Oh lol. at least they got the country right this time 19:31:13 <andythenorth> chris sawyer would have probably got online via aztw 19:31:13 <MNIM> still some 300kms off, but oh well. :P 19:45:42 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 37 19:45:42 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 55 19:45:44 <planetmaker> hm 19:45:53 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 37 19:45:53 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 25 19:46:03 <planetmaker> what is callback 25 for industries? 19:48:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-45-86.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:48:12 <Eddi|zuHause> Animation control (1B/25/140/152/159) 19:48:54 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:49:06 <planetmaker> ah, thanks 19:49:50 <Eddi|zuHause> but after reading the wiki entry, i am totally confused about what it actually does :p 19:50:49 <planetmaker> returns an animation frame explicitly or a pseudo-frame which means next or stop 20:19:07 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1464 20:19:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.139.15] has joined #openttd 20:19:21 *** Guest1464 [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:28 <Eddi|zuHause> AH! he's a ghost! 20:23:42 <andythenorth> stupid connection 20:25:45 <Eddi|zuHause> better than Moffat's version of "Ghosting" in the 51st century ;) 20:33:09 *** bodis [~bodis@cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust781.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:34:39 *** bodis [~bodis@cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust781.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:39:41 *** Amis [~Amis@5400EBA0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: *pop*] 20:51:55 <Terkhen> good night 20:52:18 *** Yasso [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:52:54 <planetmaker> good night Terkhen and all others as well 20:55:36 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:03:10 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Juo] 21:05:05 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:10:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.139.15] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:13:03 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 21:30:04 *** bodis [~bodis@cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust781.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31:32 *** bodis [~bodis@cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust781.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:31:40 *** staN [~Miranda@p5B177595.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:59:47 *** Yasso [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:27:11 *** Pixa [~Pixa@79-68-103-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 22:28:21 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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For the saw mill I have a depo next to it and dropping off wood but it won't produce anything with the wood 23:59:45 <Zuu> Hellaciouss: Do you look in the industry window or the station window?