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the last commits ;-) 10:04:19 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 10:04:58 * peter1138 greebles dihedral 10:09:36 <dihedral> if it makes you feel better... 10:10:51 <peter1138> it does 10:11:18 <dihedral> interesting... 10:11:58 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:15:08 *** fjb|tab is now known as Guest20665 10:15:09 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:15:18 *** Guest20665 [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:27:32 <SpComb> Grepplers 10:28:02 <dihedral> i just have no idea what he's trying to communicate ... 10:32:18 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-024-011.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:33:33 <__ln__> secret footage of peter driving out of a garage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0vfGtt_yqQ 10:34:30 *** LordAro [~lordaro@host86-136-94-244.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:34:41 <LordAro> good morning 10:37:21 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-55-240.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:37:36 <planetmaker> moin LordAro 10:39:16 <LordAro> hi pm 10:39:54 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-31-155.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:41:48 <appe> http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS-Cold_comfort_for_Fukushima-1612117.html 10:42:13 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-92-174.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:43:40 *** JVassie [~James@2.25.209.121] has joined #openttd 10:45:57 <fjb|tab> Moin LordAro.À 10:46:39 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-55-240.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:48:24 <Alberth> moin 10:49:20 <fjb|tab> Moin Alberth. 10:53:53 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@client-82-31-30-18.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:02:30 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@D5225594.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 11:04:26 *** LordAro [~lordaro@host86-136-94-244.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host48-239-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:06:28 <Wolf01> hello 11:06:29 <__ln__> hi Wolf01 11:20:32 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 11:21:21 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4cb0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:21:50 *** eQualizer [~lauri@46.163.224.65] has quit [Quit: good night sweet prince ;__;] 11:27:51 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111115183541]] 11:28:05 *** eQualizer [~lauri@46.163.224.65] has joined #openttd 11:29:24 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:29:25 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:08:46 <Eddi|zuHause> "Adolf Hitler wants to change his name" 12:10:25 <__ln__> dunno if that can be done posthumously 12:11:26 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23565 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange: create some classes for writing language header and translation files 12:11:46 <Eddi|zuHause> "21 year old Adolf Hitler Souza Mendes grew up in a brazilian village, where not many people knew the history of hitler, but got serious responses after his name was published in a list of candidates for the second round to applying to university" 12:13:29 *** kleinerdrache [~mn@178-190-175-146.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:15:16 <__ln__> interesting choice for a name by his parents, in any case 12:15:29 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23566 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Fix (r23565): hopefully fix MSVC compilation error 12:21:20 <Cardiz> One American family named their son Osama Bin Laden. 12:21:29 <Cardiz> Then they got their parential rights removed. 12:23:13 <Eddi|zuHause> they should have named him Obama Bin Laden :p 12:23:21 <planetmaker> welcome to alt.misc.politics 12:24:42 <Rubidium> Cardiz: probably triggered by some right wing freedom preaching individual, right? 12:24:54 <Cardiz> I have no idea Rubidium. 12:37:01 *** kleinerdrache [~mn@178-190-175-146.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:52:28 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@D5225594.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:57:13 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:58:31 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has left #openttd [] 13:16:32 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-prvbrasgw1-fe05dc00-37.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:19:08 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23567 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange: use SmallVector for the buffer in strgen 13:21:13 *** fjb|tab is now known as Guest20677 13:21:13 *** Guest20677 [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21:14 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:23:36 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:e80b:f46:e80b:61e5] has joined #openttd 13:23:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 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configurable 15:00:19 <__ln__> https://www.google.com/search?q=let%20it%20snow 15:01:34 *** wyrzym [~wyrzym@cpc11-sgyl28-2-0-cust630.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:01:57 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@D5225594.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:23:21 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-145-74.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:25:30 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0a9627.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 15:30:05 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 15:31:35 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@client-82-31-30-18.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 15:33:06 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:58:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@D5225594.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:19:05 *** swissfan91 [5e046369@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:20:02 <swissfan91> hello everyone 16:20:23 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@client-82-31-30-18.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:21:07 <planetmaker> hello swissfan91 16:21:55 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-94-239.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:22:39 <swissfan91> how do I go about getting this extra-zoom dealy that I have seen screenshots recently? 16:22:52 <swissfan91> not 32bpp... 16:25:15 <planetmaker> grab a nightly and just zoom-in 16:26:18 <swissfan91> ah nightly is it? I grabbed the latest trunk.. 16:26:30 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-92-174.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:27:07 <planetmaker> well. what is 'lastest trunk' for you? 16:27:31 <Alberth> r23571 of course :p 16:27:48 <planetmaker> OpenTTD 1.1.4 is not trunk. But 'latest' stable. Currently 16:28:04 <planetmaker> Alberth: I'm terribly outdated, I think :-( 16:28:16 <swissfan91> ahhh, yes I meant 1.1.4 16:28:21 <swissfan91> ohhh the terminology:P 16:28:31 <planetmaker> I only have 23559... 16:28:53 <planetmaker> swissfan91: and that's why one should *never* say "I use latest ..." 16:29:06 <planetmaker> Always give the version. There is no latest. And if there is, it changes 16:29:26 <Alberth> swissfan91: http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_OpenTTD_versions 16:29:34 <swissfan91> ahhh yes, I remember have that droned into me before :P 16:30:33 <planetmaker> just use the versions. It also saves you the bear traps of using the wrong name 16:30:53 <planetmaker> and one will always have to ask anyway "what is your latest". 16:31:10 <swissfan91> indeed :) 16:31:20 <planetmaker> Especially as 'latest nightly' depends on the hour of the day it is said 16:31:47 *** JVassie [~James@2.25.209.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:47 <Alberth> and latest trunk is even worse :) 16:32:06 <planetmaker> :-) 16:32:10 <planetmaker> Depends on the minute ;-) 16:32:11 <swissfan91> on a (partly) related note - andythenorth pointed me in the direction of looking at the original base set graphics, using an in-game sprite-look-at-it dealy. Is this the GRF on BANANAS? 16:32:56 <planetmaker> no. He means to make use of the newgrf developer tools used to help aligning / positioning sprites 16:33:20 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF_Debugging 16:33:57 <swissfan91> what is the use of 'BaseSets SpriteViewer' on BaNaNaS ? 16:34:10 <planetmaker> it has no use anymore 16:34:52 <planetmaker> it was useful to show single houses when there were no newgrf developer tools 16:35:03 <swissfan91> ah, ok 16:37:29 <planetmaker> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/newgrf.php?1=4460:4470 <-- you can also look at single base sprites there 16:39:16 <swissfan91> but the only way to find the original TTD gfx is through Debugging? 16:39:54 <Alberth> huh? you get those by buying the original TTDX CD 16:40:11 <swissfan91> no, I have them :) I mean, to look at the sprites. 16:41:00 <Alberth> oh, you can run the files through grfcodec or through grf2html (latter is more useful for inspection) 16:41:48 <Alberth> although it may be easier to use opengfx instead 16:42:09 <Alberth> they are the same set of sprites, and the latter is in source form, and has a gpl license 16:42:38 <swissfan91> its only because I was drawing some roof rafters, and andythenorth said that a house in the original gfx had some I should look at. 16:43:17 <planetmaker> swissfan91: you can just start a game and look at that house... or you use the last link I quoted 16:43:31 <Alberth> if he means in-game, take a screenshot and load that in a bitmap editor 16:43:32 <planetmaker> it gives you opengfx, ttd and 32bpp-ez sprites of the selected sprites 16:43:38 <planetmaker> edit the link accordingly 16:44:51 <Alberth> nice link :) 16:45:39 <swissfan91> change the 'opengfx' part of the link to 'ttd'? 16:47:02 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-024-011.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 16:47:43 <planetmaker> no. Edit the spritenumbers 16:50:20 <swissfan91> blimey - just makes you realise HOW many sprites are involved 16:51:35 <swissfan91> surely irrespective of the sprite number I change to, they're all opengfx? 16:52:24 <planetmaker> no 16:52:38 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23572 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange: split actual file reading from logic for parsing 16:52:47 <planetmaker> 17:47 planetmaker: it gives you opengfx, ttd and 32bpp-ez sprites of the selected sprites 16:55:24 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23573 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Fix (r23571): MSVC doesn't like variable array sizes 16:55:29 <swissfan91> swissfan91 change the 'opengfx' part of the link to 'ttd'? 16:50 16:51 planetmaker no. Edit the spritenumbers 16:56:05 <swissfan91> sorry I'll concentrate now.. Torquay have lost :( 16:59:43 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23574 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Codechange/Feature-ish: allow converting multiple translations with the same master language instance in a single strgen run 17:01:27 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02:41 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:07:38 *** JVassie [~James@2.25.209.121] has joined #openttd 17:10:01 *** dlr365 [~Doug@d142-59-83-184.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 17:16:57 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-82-26-113-18.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:18:52 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-220-236.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:20:01 *** fjb|tab is now known as Guest20694 17:20:02 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:20:41 *** Guest20694 [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:21:55 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23575 /trunk/ (Makefile.lang.in src/strgen/strgen.cpp src/strgen/strgen.h): -Codechange: split class definition and implementation of base strgen classes 17:37:52 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:55:35 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:59:49 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-94-239.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:21 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:25 *** swissfan91 [5e046369@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:19:24 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:45 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:29:47 <Cardiz> So quiet. 18:30:09 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23576 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: split the base of strgen with the strgen code that creates the actual .lng files 18:33:16 <Terkhen> yup 18:35:34 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23577 /trunk/projects/ (4 files): -Fix (r23576): strgen project files aren't automatically updated :( 18:36:29 <frosch123> hmm, second time today firefox completely screwed up... 18:38:45 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 18:41:16 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: translators * r23578 /trunk/src/lang/ (turkish.txt unfinished/urdu.txt): 18:41:16 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:41:16 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: turkish - 5 changes by niw3 18:41:16 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: urdu - 300 changes by haider 18:41:16 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-63-96.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 18:42:52 <Cardiz> Oh hell. 18:42:58 <Cardiz> What the hell is "urdu"? 18:43:16 <__ln__> a language. 18:43:27 <Cardiz> First time I hear about a language named "urdu" 18:43:41 <Rubidium> wikipedia will tell you 18:43:43 <__ln__> I'd say that's more your than the language's fault. 18:43:47 <Rubidium> but yes, it's a language 18:44:13 <Cardiz> It's not mine's or languages fault. 18:44:26 <Cardiz> I am just telling you that I hear a language called "urdu" for the first time. 18:45:03 <planetmaker> hm, whose fault is it that you haven't heart of something? 18:45:17 <Cardiz> God's. 18:47:09 *** macee [~macee@dsl51B65E57.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:47:57 * Alberth didn't know that a geography teacher was god 18:49:31 <macee> Hello to all. 18:49:58 <Chris_Booth> macee! 18:50:08 <Alberth> hello 18:50:33 <frosch123> Cardiz: it's the fourth most spoken language or so 18:50:40 <macee> I have a question: when i cheat back in time, the financial window doesn't show anything. Is it a bug, or just a side effect of the cheat? 18:51:14 <Chris_Booth> hhhm let me guess it goes mandarin, spanish, english urdu? 18:51:32 <frosch123> switch english and spanish, then you match wikipedia :) 18:51:43 <Chris_Booth> not far out then 18:52:07 <frosch123> though it depends if you take the pure urdu (which is only spoken by some), or the more general hindu-urdu 18:52:19 <frosch123> * hindi-urdu 18:52:36 <Chris_Booth> yes, it also depends if you take into account 2nd language and native speakers 18:53:04 <Chris_Booth> since I would guess iff you had total speakers english may be top, followed by mandarin 18:53:21 <Chris_Booth> but I would again guess wiki list native speakers only 18:54:00 <frosch123> wiki lists whatever they can quote from some questionable source :p 18:54:37 <Chris_Booth> XD XD XD 18:55:08 <Chris_Booth> frosch123: you could edit the wiki to make chinglish the number 1 language 18:55:35 <Chris_Booth> and cite your own website as the source of the data 18:57:44 <frosch123> no, my website won't work. however if i print a letter in some local newspaper or if i write a book ... 19:02:10 <Chris_Booth> lol 19:02:40 <Chris_Booth> publish it in a news corp paper, they will print any old crap 19:04:16 <Alberth> macee: it doesn't store the data, but what should it display? cumulative data for that year is wrong too. 19:04:34 <Chris_Booth> or new international, depending on what you call rupert murdocs new in your country 19:08:54 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@D5225594.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:09:19 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08e809.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:12:44 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-82-26-113-18.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 9.0/20111212185108]] 19:16:07 <macee> Alberth: I didn't think it all the way to what it should show, I just never noticed it before, and was curious why it is. 19:17:30 <Alberth> oke :) 19:19:14 <macee> I usually don't use cheats, but after several tries I finally found a map with which I was satisfied, and than I realised that I didn't set the date right:( 19:19:54 <macee> Thought I should ask if it is a bug or just a side effect, and now I know:) 19:20:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AB71.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:24:16 *** dlr365 [~Doug@d142-59-83-184.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.186.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:27:37 *** macee [~macee@dsl51B65E57.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 19:34:35 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-82-188.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:39:00 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:39:47 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-63-96.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:39:52 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:41:48 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-38-149.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:46:24 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-82-188.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:34 <Cardiz> I wish I could bribe UFO in multiplayer games so they would land on someone's railroad network that took him lots of time to make and let the jet destroy everything. 20:33:20 <__ln__> http://www.twitch.tv/notch 20:41:33 <Cardiz> What is this? 20:42:14 <Alberth> a pseudo-random URL? 20:42:27 <__ln__> Live coding, I suppose. By Notch. 20:42:44 <Cardiz> But isn't that out of topic? 20:43:49 <Alberth> oh, we are often off-topic here :) 20:43:52 <__ln__> I avoid being on-topic. 20:44:10 <Terkhen> live coding? wow, that must be boring to watch 20:46:01 <Cardiz> It is not. 20:46:17 <Cardiz> It's exciting to see lots of code pieces glued together and see them working. 20:47:44 <__ln__> he's actually writing really ugly code. 20:48:11 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: frosch * r23579 /trunk/src/ (genworld_gui.cpp network/network_gui.cpp toolbar_gui.cpp): -Fix (r23525): Most up/down arrows stopped working. 20:55:28 <Terkhen> it's more exciting to write code yourself :) 21:00:27 <Alberth> but you have to actually think yourself then :p 21:01:23 <__ln__> not necessarily, you can simply try things the brute force way until something works the way you want 21:01:48 <planetmaker> the monkey way to write a poem? 21:03:52 <__ln__> something like that, but if brute-forcing with syntactically correct, compilable pieces of code, it takes less time. 21:16:46 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23580 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Codechange: put the infrastructure maintenance cache testing behind the desync debug level guard, improving the game's speed significantly 21:18:14 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: frosch * r23581 /trunk/src/vehicle_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r23518) [FS#4890]: Cloning of vehicles crashed. 21:19:54 <Alberth> planetmaker: where to leave these to request some snow powder coating? http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/nonsnowyantenna.png http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/nonsnowystation.png 21:21:32 <planetmaker> he, that's both difficult as it can neither be done within a base set nor NewGRF 21:21:51 <planetmaker> Can I assign that base set or NewGRF Spec extension to you? :-P 21:21:57 <frosch123> i think for the transmitter there is some patch on fs 21:22:00 <frosch123> from 2008 or so 21:22:01 *** TomyLobo [~foo@p54946E27.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 21:22:35 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 21:23:17 <planetmaker> hm, NewObjects need a property "place on game start". And an override for transmitter and lighthouse like airports 21:23:55 <Alberth> sure you can assign that to me, not sure if that helps a lot though ;) 21:24:02 <planetmaker> :-) 21:24:28 <planetmaker> Alberth: we have one issue category for that in the OpenGFX tracker: type 'OpenTTD' :-) 21:25:47 <planetmaker> like http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2052... though I just wonder whether I can close that already 21:26:09 <frosch123> planetmaker: is it a problem of swedish rails if i do not see pbs reservations on bridges? 21:26:21 <frosch123> or of ottd? :p 21:26:31 <frosch123> (i want to play :( ) 21:26:39 <planetmaker> hm, that I don't know by heart 21:26:52 <planetmaker> I'll find out :-). You play :-P 21:27:17 <frosch123> :) 21:27:49 <Cardiz> I imagine coding with brute force as trying to make a hybrid of an elephant and mice. 21:27:51 <Cardiz> Not sure why. 21:29:07 <planetmaker> with default rail I see pbs reservation only on bridge ramps 21:29:20 <frosch123> yes, that's what i expected 21:29:39 <frosch123> but currently i do not see even those 21:30:04 <planetmaker> then it must be an SER bug 21:30:07 <planetmaker> let's see 21:30:18 <frosch123> or of newrails with overlays :) 21:30:29 <frosch123> ottd draws them different than default rail 21:30:43 <planetmaker> that's easy to test... 21:34:06 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/no-pbs-reservation-on-bridges.png I don't have it 21:34:51 <frosch123> Alberth: i am currently playing with ser as well :) 21:36:16 <planetmaker> I didn't find reserved bridge ramps neither with UK Railway Set (Narrow Gauge) and SMITS 21:38:16 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23582 /trunk/ (10 files in 4 dirs): 21:38:16 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#4870]: add missing characters for certain languages and the large font 21:38:16 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Codechange: don't remove large font glyphs because they are broken in the original font, just fix them up in openttd.grf using action A 21:38:16 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Change: make extra characters more consistent with the original font 21:38:16 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: All by PaulC. 21:41:41 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: Sla Mutant Co-Op for Renegade - coming back soon] 21:48:18 <Cardiz> What a way to stop a flame war. 21:48:32 <Cardiz> 2 people were arguing about what country is the best place to live. 21:49:01 <Cardiz> After over 20 comments of them including insults, the third one popped out of nowhere and said "Shut the fuck up everyone, Australia is the place to be" 21:49:04 <Cardiz> And end. 21:49:21 <Prof_Frink> Apart from one thing. 21:49:26 <Cardiz> Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that they were arguing if america is better or china. 21:49:28 <Prof_Frink> It's full of Autralians. 21:50:32 <fjb|tab> That is easy to solve soon. China is gradually buying the USA. 21:51:54 <Cardiz> Soon there will be war. 21:52:01 <Xaroth> and everything is upside down in Australia... 21:52:14 <Cardiz> No no, it's in Soviet russia. 21:54:12 * fjb|tab likes to live in a country without death penaklty. So China and the USA are both ruled out. 21:54:29 <Cardiz> Death punishment should be everywhere. 21:56:26 <planetmaker> yes, for all who don't agree with me 21:56:45 <planetmaker> for once, I think no death penalty is a good thing 21:56:51 <planetmaker> how to resolve this paradoxon? 21:57:07 <planetmaker> please discuss in alt.misc.politics ;-) 21:57:12 <Rubidium> so they're punished by letting them suffer less long?!? 21:57:57 <Rubidium> or being in jail is something that is preferred above not being in jail 21:58:13 <Rubidium> then the US is definitely the best country to be 21:58:18 <fjb|tab> Eliminate everyone who does not agre with you. Then rhere is no need for the death penalty any more. Easily solved. 21:58:57 <Rubidium> ofcourse US jails are not much more than legal slave farms 22:00:17 <Alberth> good night all 22:00:35 <Cardiz> I see I offended you with my suggestion to have death punishment. 22:00:38 <Cardiz> I apologize. 22:00:49 <fjb|tab> God night Alberth. 22:01:01 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:01:04 <Cardiz> But no, seriously, killing prisoners that did enough to die is a good thing. 22:01:35 <Cardiz> It means taxes don't go to take care of prisoners. 22:01:36 <planetmaker> killing a person on purpose is murder 22:01:42 <Terkhen> ^ 22:01:44 <Terkhen> good night 22:01:49 <planetmaker> 1st degree murder in US speak 22:01:53 <Cardiz> Of course it is. 22:01:55 * fjb|tab wonders why? To make room for new prisoners? 22:02:07 <planetmaker> would also be good. then the person in favour would need all be killed 22:02:26 <frosch123> yay, no overpopulation 22:02:39 <Cardiz> Citizens obviously would feel safer if a serial psychopatic murderer would be executed, right? 22:02:48 <fjb|tab> No. 22:02:49 <planetmaker> incorrect 22:03:10 <Cardiz> Why incorrect? 22:03:37 <planetmaker> why would I feel safer if *someone* ran around and issues death sentences? 22:03:46 <Cardiz> Maybe because you are innocent? 22:03:46 * Rubidium proposes killing some thousands of American soldiers because they killed people in Iraq for absolutely no reason 22:04:17 <fjb|tab> Nobody is innocent. 22:04:21 <planetmaker> Cardiz: says who? 22:04:36 <Cardiz> But well, maybe you feel safer with the fact that lots of countries own nuclear weaponry. 22:04:48 <fjb|tab> No 22:04:55 <planetmaker> Killing one innocent person is absolutely inacceptable. Humans err. Thus death penalty is unacceptable 22:05:07 <fjb|tab> Right. 22:05:38 <Cardiz> Like Joseph Stalin said: One dead man is a strategy, thousands of people dead is just the statistic. 22:05:45 <Cardiz> Trategy 22:05:53 <Cardiz> God, I cannot type words right. 22:06:00 <Rubidium> so 9-11 was just statistics 22:06:04 <planetmaker> ^^ 22:06:08 <Cardiz> Yes it was. 22:06:20 <fjb|tab> Killing pople doesn't make me feel save. 22:06:35 <Cardiz> Depends on the point of the seat. 22:06:41 <Cardiz> For family it's a trategy. 22:06:47 <Cardiz> For president is nothing 22:06:57 <planetmaker> Nor does the death penalty show that it makes the country safer. Crime statistics actually tell otherwise 22:07:17 <fjb|tab> Your seat can be on the electric chair unexpectedly soon. 22:07:17 <Rubidium> also... the number of deaths due to psychotic serial killers is significantly less than those due to people not paying attention during driving 22:07:23 <Cardiz> Death punishment would make criminals afraid too. 22:07:31 <Cardiz> Because right now for example in America 22:07:34 <planetmaker> Cardiz: that's where you err 22:07:36 <Cardiz> Someone buys legally a gun 22:07:38 <Rubidium> so if you really want to feel safer, just disallow anything distracting while driving 22:07:40 <Cardiz> Kills 10 people 22:07:44 <planetmaker> No crime is comitted less because of death penalty 22:07:49 <Cardiz> Goes to jail for lifetime and starts shit in prison 22:08:03 <Cardiz> Thus making the country waste money to fix the shit he broke. 22:08:10 <planetmaker> People in jail work 22:08:33 <planetmaker> If I kill them they can't work for the compensation 22:08:36 <fjb|tab> Nobody is afraid of the deathpenalty because everybody thinks he is clever enough to not be cought. 22:08:42 <planetmaker> If I kill them they can never regret 22:08:43 <Rubidium> Cardiz: the death penalty works so good in the US that it has much more gun related deaths (relatively and absolutely) than any civilised country without the death penalty 22:08:49 <frosch123> Rubidium: yeah, women should wear burqas 22:08:51 <planetmaker> If I kill them I might err and be a mean killer 22:08:58 <fjb|tab> Or he doesn't think at al while commiting murder. 22:09:04 <Cardiz> Lets just kill everybody for any crime. 22:09:06 <planetmaker> If I kill them I might extinct a valuable person 22:09:15 <Cardiz> Even children. 22:09:37 <planetmaker> I happily pay taxes. Also for the prisons 22:09:56 <planetmaker> It's a better punishment to imprison one for life than just shoot people 22:10:22 <fjb|tab> Every crime.. Downloading music without paying is a crime... 22:10:31 <Cardiz> Everything is a crime. 22:10:32 <frosch123> planetmaker: sending all prisoners for holidays on mallorca is cheaper :p 22:10:34 <Cardiz> Lets kill everybody. 22:10:42 <Cardiz> Why not engage nuclear missiles already and bomb every country 22:10:54 <planetmaker> start at your home, please 22:10:54 <Cardiz> Because nobody is innocent 22:11:00 <fjb|tab> That would be no fun. 22:11:02 <frosch123> anyway, i bet someone is banned from the channel in the next 10 minutes 22:11:30 <frosch123> TrueBrain: are you available? 22:11:57 <Rubidium> Cardiz: you are aware that a death penalty is more costly than life in prison without parole, right? 22:12:12 <fjb|tab> Instead of thinking about killing people better get a girl and make new people. 22:12:29 <Cardiz> Rubidium, I know that lifetime prison is worse for criminals. 22:12:37 <planetmaker> also cheaper for you 22:12:46 <Cardiz> You still waste money for criminals. 22:12:59 <Cardiz> But it depends in what situation you are. 22:13:02 <planetmaker> you waste more, if you kill them 22:13:19 <Cardiz> For example if a criminal would murder a member of your family, you would want him dead too. 22:13:20 <planetmaker> and "the situation" doesn't change that 22:13:31 <planetmaker> Cardiz: that is so wrong as it could be 22:13:43 <planetmaker> I would not want that. 22:14:46 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 22:14:49 <planetmaker> humanism is a cultural thing. Eye for eye is like stone age 22:15:09 <Cardiz> Murdering thousands of innocent people in Iraq is humanitary too 22:15:19 <Rubidium> abolishing the death penalty in California will save 170 million dollars a year according to Judge Arthur L. Alarcon; since 1978 California has spent 4 billion on death penalty cases, with a whopping 13 executions 22:16:02 <Cardiz> Bombing Hiroshima was humanitary too 22:16:09 <planetmaker> Cardiz: you're absolutely cynical and inhumae 22:17:01 <planetmaker> and your 'comparisons' are unacceptable 22:17:20 <Cardiz> Ah come on. 22:17:27 <planetmaker> nor do they illustrate any point. 22:17:53 <Cardiz> Executing one person is more inhumane than murdering 166 thousands of people with an atomic bomb 22:18:01 <planetmaker> except your own very limited ability to communicate your opinion or rather finding any reason for their support 22:18:25 <Cardiz> Because who cares about bestially murdering animals 22:18:33 <planetmaker> @kban Cardiz 22:18:34 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~Cardiz@87-205-230-154.adsl.inetia.pl] by DorpsGek 22:18:34 *** Cardiz was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [planetmaker] 22:19:00 <fjb|tab> Thank you. 22:19:30 <planetmaker> What distinguishes us from animals is humanism 22:20:29 <fjb|tab> Some people don't show any hint of humanism. But they are stil humsns. Such people make me sad. 22:20:42 <planetmaker> me, too 22:20:42 <frosch123> 8 minutes 22:20:46 <planetmaker> :-D 22:20:57 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:21:14 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:21:35 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:22:12 * Rubidium always wonders why people go completely nutters about somebody killing a few persons but are totally uninterested in solving issues that kill many more persons 22:22:57 <planetmaker> it's something about the randomness and the 'reason' 22:23:02 <frosch123> because they like solving problems they know a solution for? 22:23:39 <Rubidium> they like solving problems they won't have to face the solution for 22:23:55 <fjb|tab> We tend to overlook problems which are to big to handle for one person. 22:24:21 <Rubidium> e.g. ban smoking, ban calling/texting/... when driving (even when using a car kit) 22:25:10 <Rubidium> that'll make much more of an impact than focussing on the few psychotic persons that kill people 22:25:41 <Rubidium> but politicians have no balls to go for it 22:26:28 <fjb|tab> They would need to change parts of the society they don't want to touch. 22:26:53 <frosch123> i would actually expect smoking to be banned from germany within the next 20 years 22:27:12 <supermop> they would need to tell the people that vote for them that they are wrong 22:27:32 <supermop> with a shooter, everyone can say 'thats not me' 22:27:37 <fjb|tab> Smoking outdoors is ok. But smoking indoors is a real problem. 22:27:47 <frosch123> passive smoking is about to be considered assaulting 22:28:21 <supermop> but with say, texting, many people think 'sometimes i do that, but it must be ok if i do it' 22:28:49 <Rubidium> fjb|tab: I tend to disagree with that... as smoking 'outside' usually means smoking at the entrance of buildings 22:28:53 <fjb|tab> My ex girlfriend was smoking much. Her daughters had real difficulties to breath sometimes. But she didn't care. :-( 22:28:55 <Rubidium> which means I still have to go through it 22:29:29 <fjb|tab> Rubidium: ok, outside away from the entrances. 22:29:40 <planetmaker> Rubidium: one can hold a breath for that short time (yes, I sometimes do) 22:29:50 <planetmaker> but if it's inside... it's unavoidable and soon unbearable 22:29:51 <frosch123> [23:31] <supermop> they would need to tell the people that vote for them that they are wrong <- you can easily circumvent that by direct democracy, i.e. a referendum 22:29:52 <supermop> many US states with smoking bans ban it 25 or even 100 feet from the entrance 22:30:35 <planetmaker> i.e. I'm quite happy that I can go to a pub and not have to throw away all clothes and remove the soot from my lungs 22:30:41 <supermop> frosch123: but what happens when 51% of the people who want to vote still want to smoke... 22:30:43 <Rubidium> also people entering a bus usually inhale deeply and then blow their smoke through the whole bus 22:30:53 <frosch123> when i entered the voting room for the referendum about smoking in restaurants here, i only saw families with children participating :p 22:30:59 <supermop> heh 22:31:09 <supermop> its the same in the states that have banned it here 22:31:11 <supermop> but 22:31:12 <frosch123> so the result of the voting was no surprise :p 22:31:22 <supermop> in the states where it hasnt been banned 22:31:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd generally vote against smoking... 22:31:31 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23583 /trunk/src/error_gui.cpp: -Codechange: prevent name collision with strgen variable 22:31:45 <supermop> those are places where smoking is still more popular, namely where tobacco is grown 22:31:55 <frosch123> supermop: i am quite sure, that a lot more who do not smoke participate in such votings 22:31:57 <fjb|tab> My actual girlfriend and I didn't find a pub without smoking in a nearby smal town last autumn. :-( 22:32:34 <planetmaker> woot? 22:32:37 <frosch123> and a lot of smokers even feel guilty and do not dare to go to the voting 22:32:56 <supermop> ive lived in states with smoking bans for a long time now, so i am always suprised when i travel to a state without one 22:33:07 <supermop> i am not used to smelling smoke anywhere anymore 22:34:05 <Eddi|zuHause> <Cardiz> It means taxes don't go to take care of prisoners. <-- that argument btw. is totally rubbish... 22:34:37 <Eddi|zuHause> statistics show that a trial with possibility of death penalty costs on average 10 times more than a trial without (for the same crime) 22:34:48 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: rb already said that 22:34:59 <Eddi|zuHause> and then there's of course the time between trial and execution 22:35:37 <Eddi|zuHause> which also may be several decades 22:35:41 <__ln__> i guess that'll be solved when china buys the rest of US, and chinese practices of trial and execution can be embraced. 22:35:47 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: or to quote hallervorden again: cheapest is sending them on vacation to mallorca 22:39:30 <Eddi|zuHause> fjb|tab: you know that "actual" != "aktuell", right? 22:41:47 <fjb|tab> Eddi|zuHause: I know, didn't think about the word current. But what is wrong with actual? 22:42:02 <Eddi|zuHause> "actual" means "real" 22:42:11 <Eddi|zuHause> as in "actually existing" 22:42:44 <Eddi|zuHause> as if you were to say "not an imaginary girlfriend" 22:43:46 <fjb|tab> She is realy real, as far as I know. :-p 22:44:00 <Eddi|zuHause> how do you actually know? :p 22:44:22 <Eddi|zuHause> how do you know _you_ are real? :) 22:44:33 <fjb|tab> The problem is to know what reality is. 22:44:55 <fjb|tab> Eddi|zuHause: I don't know. 22:46:11 <fjb|tab> If I would be virtual, would my girlfriend also have to be virtual to be real? 22:47:22 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has left #openttd [] 22:48:13 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on if you use your own reality as reference point 22:48:30 <Eddi|zuHause> which kinda defeats the point :) 22:49:01 <planetmaker> reality is nothing else than averaged perception of the world ;-) 22:49:24 <fjb|tab> Whose reality can we use when not our own? 22:49:32 <planetmaker> no, the tree doesn't fall, if no-one watches ;-) 22:50:05 <Eddi|zuHause> the tree is in a quantum state until someone watches 22:50:41 <fjb|tab> The tree doesn't fall, the eatth falls. 22:51:00 <Eddi|zuHause> the train is not moving. the station is moving underneath the train 22:52:15 <frosch123> [23:53] <fjb|tab> Whose reality can we use when not our own? <- the one in ottd? 22:55:55 <fjb|tab> frosch123: That one is made like our own. 22:57:46 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@client-82-31-30-18.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 22:59:35 <__ln__> 00:53 < fjb|tab> Whose reality can we use when not our own? <-- mine 23:00:30 <frosch123> planetmaker: pbs highlight does indeed not work for tunnels and bridges with railtype overlays 23:00:43 <frosch123> in the tunnel case the highlight is drawn before the actual track 23:00:55 <planetmaker> he 23:00:58 <frosch123> in the bridge case it is not drawn at all for some reason 23:01:03 <fjb|tab> __ln__: I can not use yours. Yours is Finnish. 23:01:20 <frosch123> there is a big comment in the bridge case, but i am not sure whether it is about the pbs case, or something else :p 23:04:28 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-prvbrasgw1-fe05dc00-37.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 23:07:58 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-220-236.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:10:33 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: frosch * r23584 /trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: -Fix: Draw PBS reservations also for tunnels with railtype overlays. 23:12:24 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23585 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: replace some magic numbers with less magic constants 23:15:27 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 23:15:34 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@client-82-31-30-18.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:18:37 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: frosch * r23586 /trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: -Fix: Draw PBS reservation also for bridges with railtype overlays. 23:18:47 <frosch123> For some reason the bridge reservations look kind of dark with ser 23:21:19 *** fjb|tab is now known as Guest20715 23:21:20 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFF0C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:24:18 *** Guest20715 [~frank@p5DDFD257.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:25:25 *** DemeGeek [~demegeek@S0106e0cb4ee182cb.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 23:28:20 <planetmaker> hm... dunno yet why. First some sleep though. Good night 23:29:20 <fjb|tab> Good night planetmaker. 23:29:51 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@client-82-31-30-18.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 23:31:07 <DemeGeek> I am getting the error message "Error: Failed to find a graphics set. Please acquire a graphics set for OpenTTD. See section 4.1 of readme.txt." when I try to run openTTD as a dedicated server over SSH on a debian install. I have tried doing what it said and extracted opengfx into the /data/ folder but it still does not work. Can anyone help me with this? 23:31:43 <frosch123> what folder exactly? 23:32:13 <DemeGeek> It is installed into /usr/share/games/openttd/ if that is what you mean 23:32:41 <frosch123> isn't openttd-opengfx even a debian package? 23:32:55 <DemeGeek> No that I could find 23:32:59 <DemeGeek> only tar.gz 23:33:20 <frosch123> i mean in your package manager 23:33:38 <frosch123> i have it on squeeze 23:33:50 <DemeGeek> I don't know how to access package manager through terminal 23:34:09 <DemeGeek> and I have never used desktop Debian 23:35:14 <frosch123> /usr/share/games/openttd/data should work though 23:35:32 <frosch123> put the .tar directly there 23:35:43 <frosch123> no .gz, but also not untarred 23:35:50 <DemeGeek> oh dpkg, sorry I didn't know the name of that command. 23:36:03 <DemeGeek> so I should not extract? 23:36:18 <frosch123> only gunzip, but not tar -x 23:37:15 <DemeGeek> I got the openttd-opengfx package you pointed me to 23:37:18 <DemeGeek> and now it works! 23:37:22 <DemeGeek> Thank you 23:37:39 <frosch123> you're welcome :) 23:44:30 *** SystemParadox [~simon@proxima.systemparadox.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:44:39 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 23:47:47 *** Joshu145 [cf07b827@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:48:01 <Joshu145> hey 23:48:13 <Joshu145> How's it going? 23:48:59 <Eddi|zuHause> that way --> 23:49:22 <Joshu145> ? 23:50:13 <fjb|tab> Eddi|zuHause: The question was how, not where. 23:50:18 <Joshu145> Where should i look if i want to find a team of mod developers to help with an idea i have 23:50:31 <Joshu145> i meant how are you? 23:50:34 <Joshu145> haha 23:50:36 <Joshu145> smartass 23:51:09 <Eddi|zuHause> sorry. not my native language. 23:51:20 <Joshu145> oh 23:51:55 <fjb|tab> Eddi|zuHause: You should have sent him to the ministery of silly walks. 23:52:17 *** Joshu145 [cf07b827@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [] 23:53:18 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know what you mean by that, but it'd sound better if it were a monastery :) 23:53:51 <frosch123> it's some monthy python thingie 23:54:09 *** Adambean [~AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 23:54:11 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i must have missed that 23:54:21 <frosch123> i am sure you can find it on yt 23:55:05 <Eddi|zuHause> yt is not compatible with my internets 23:55:11 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-187-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 23:56:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@D5225594.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 23:56:09 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop]