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<planetmaker> interesting image, andythenorth 14:02:08 <andythenorth> http://www.fipt.org.uk/lift.html 14:04:04 <Belugas> hello 14:06:43 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Louis-Arzviller_inclined_plane 14:09:05 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: so, when do you plan to implement these? :) 14:10:13 <andythenorth> next week 14:32:45 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:36:50 *** dageek [~dageek@2001:8b0:ff85:0:223:32ff:fec9:1f10] has joined #openttd 14:41:46 *** dageek [~dageek@2001:8b0:ff85:0:223:32ff:fec9:1f10] has quit [] 14:47:58 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:48:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 14:54:30 *** dlr365 [~Doug@d142-59-83-184.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:02:22 *** heffer [~felix@hyperion.fetzig.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:28 <andythenorth> meh 15:03:38 <andythenorth> boats should be able to traverse tiles with rapids 15:03:40 <andythenorth> http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/17/1749/SSU3D00Z/art-print/paddle-steamer-negotiates-the-la-chine-rapids-of-the-st-lawrence-river-quebec-canada.jpg 15:03:47 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:12:30 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-180-12-160.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 15:21:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-180-12-160.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:29:09 *** dlr365 [~Doug@d142-59-83-184.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 15:29:31 <andythenorth> hmm 15:29:38 * andythenorth contemplates cheating 15:32:42 <peter1138> andythenorth, that looks like a photoshop, i can tell from the pixels 15:33:01 <andythenorth> peter1138: you mean it's just an image? :O 15:33:03 <andythenorth> not real? 15:33:14 <peter1138> yeah it's fake 15:34:13 <andythenorth> hmm 15:34:19 * andythenorth is disappointed 15:37:07 *** 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question ;) ) 15:53:50 <dihedral> i want a new job 15:53:54 <dihedral> ... just kidding, Eddi|zuHause ;-) 15:53:56 *** WaveOfBabies [~David@cpe-075-177-004-069.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:55:11 <WaveOfBabies> Hey, I'm having trouble making my own AI. More specifically, I can't get the game to recognize my AI & let me use it in game 15:55:27 <WaveOfBabies> it doesn't show up in the list of AIs even though I followed the instructions on the wiki page 15:56:04 *** Pinuccio [02c1980e@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:57:09 <Yexo> most likely you have an error in your info.nut 15:57:17 <andythenorth> hmm 15:57:25 <andythenorth> (house) tiles can produce n cargos 15:57:41 <Yexo> WaveOfBabies: can you post your info.nut on paste.openttdcoop.org ? 15:57:42 <andythenorth> where n < 256 15:57:49 <andythenorth> but can only accept 3 cargos afaict 15:57:56 <WaveOfBabies> I've got it up on a git repository 15:58:02 <Yexo> I think n=2 15:58:09 <Yexo> WaveOfBabies: that's fine, can I access that? 15:58:13 <andythenorth> yexo http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Callbacks#Custom_cargo_production_.282E.29 15:58:15 <WaveOfBabies> yeah 15:58:45 <Yexo> andythenorth: ah, I didn't know that :) 15:58:54 <andythenorth> ;) 15:59:05 <andythenorth> but accepted limit is 3 15:59:17 <Eddi|zuHause> 3 simultaneously 15:59:28 <WaveOfBabies> hold on, gotta push the latest version :P 15:59:34 <andythenorth> cb 1F...? 15:59:38 <andythenorth> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Callbacks#Cargo_acceptance_.281F.29 15:59:51 <andythenorth> when is cb 1F called? 16:00:16 <WaveOfBabies> https://github.com/waveofbabies/WoB-AI/blob/master/info.nut 16:00:39 <Yexo> WaveOfBabies: RegisterAI(MyNewAI()); <- MyNewAI doesn't exist anymore 16:00:44 <Yexo> change that to WoBAI() 16:00:45 <WaveOfBabies> oh my god 16:00:48 <WaveOfBabies> I'm so dumb 16:00:52 <WaveOfBabies> how did I not see that 16:00:53 <WaveOfBabies> thanks 16:01:11 <Yexo> function GetAPIVersion() { return "1.0"; } <- you might want to change that to 1.1 16:01:21 <Yexo> if you're developing your AI against 1.1.x and using that documentation of course 16:01:29 <WaveOfBabies> kk, thanks :D 16:01:54 <WaveOfBabies> it's working now 16:02:10 <Yexo> great :) Good luck writing your AI 16:02:35 <WaveOfBabies> thanks :D 16:03:35 * andythenorth is trying to have a town tile accept > 3 cargos 16:03:53 <andythenorth> strictly it's an industry tile, so cb1F doesn't apply anyway 16:07:17 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:16:47 *** Lakie [~Lakie@109.176.224.135] has joined #openttd 16:21:50 *** TomyLobo [~foo@p54946D9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:30:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-180-12-160.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:42:41 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.4.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 16:44:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6CDA.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:47:27 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 16:50:17 *** John [02c1980e@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:50:22 <John> hi guys 16:50:25 <John> :) 16:50:34 <John> i have a question 4 u 16:50:57 <John> i use cargodest 16:51:19 <John> is it patched how the official relase? 16:51:25 <TrueBrain> an hour ago you were using cargodist .. now I am confused :) 16:51:27 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:52:09 <John> it use an old binary file? 16:52:55 <John> or the official patch have effect on files not used by cargodist? 16:53:16 <John> i am confused too XD 16:53:38 <TrueBrain> cargodest and cargodist are two very different projects 16:53:42 <Belugas> there is an "official patch" ? 16:53:55 <John> sorry 16:53:59 <John> cargodist 16:54:16 <John> "official patch" i mean the official relase 16:54:24 <John> on opentt.org 16:54:33 <John> *openttd 16:54:34 <planetmaker> a patched version obviously is not an official release... 16:54:43 <planetmaker> or what is your question? 16:54:58 <John> sorry, my english sucks XD 16:55:02 <John> now 16:55:12 <TrueBrain> that is fine; we just keep asking questions till we understand your question :D 16:55:17 <planetmaker> if it is "is cargodist in the next official release" then the answer is still 'no' 16:55:23 <John> on openttd there is the official relase 16:55:33 <planetmaker> yes. That has no cargodist 16:55:33 <John> openttd.org 16:55:41 <John> ok 16:56:00 <John> in the official rel bugs are corrected periodically 16:56:18 <John> happens the same thing on cargodist rel' 16:56:23 <John> ? 16:56:24 <planetmaker> but the maintainer of the cargodist patch updates it somewhat frequently, so that it contains the same elements as nightly OpenTTD 16:56:52 <John> OK perfect111 16:56:55 <John> !!! 16:57:19 <John> the doubt was if the cargodist developer correct the bugs how the official rel 16:57:52 <John> ok, finally we have found the answer XD 16:57:53 <planetmaker> yes, he does that. 16:58:01 <John> ok 16:58:04 <John> many thanks 16:58:12 <planetmaker> by simply updating to the official code and adjusting the patches 16:58:20 <planetmaker> you're welcome 16:58:23 <John> yeah 16:58:23 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0a9627.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:58:29 <John> another thing 16:59:08 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23638 /trunk/media/extra_grf/mono.png: -Fix [FS#4894]: glitch in the monospace font (PaulC) 16:59:59 <John> with cargodist there are not online server 17:00:15 <John> precisely, only one, and is not compatible 17:00:23 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23639 /trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): -Fix [FS#4892]: fix transparency for steel mill, colour translations in some arctic buildings and a wrongly replaced sprites (PaulC) 17:00:28 <John> also 4 you' 17:00:33 <John> ? 17:02:49 <Yexo> http://www.openttd.org/en/servers here you can see all online servers 17:02:55 <Yexo> there are indeed not many patches versions 17:06:22 <John> thanks again :) 17:06:47 <John> so you suggest me to keep the original version or try cargodist? 17:07:18 <John> there are a lot of advantages or not? 17:07:58 <John> i am really undecided :) 17:09:16 <Eddi|zuHause> you can have more than one version 17:09:39 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. cargodist for offline play and official for online play 17:10:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-180-12-160.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:10:09 <John> yes 17:10:20 <John> the same thing that i thinked 17:10:41 <John> ok guys thanks 4 your time and suggestions :) 17:10:48 <John> you are the best 17:10:56 <John> see you soon :) 17:10:59 <John> bye! 17:11:26 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 5*13500 17:11:26 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 67500 17:11:44 *** John [02c1980e@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 17:14:46 <dihedral> that happens seldom that someone says "you are the best" ... 17:15:38 * Alberth wonders how he came to that conclusion 17:15:38 <andythenorth> you are the best 17:15:44 <TrueBrain> dihedral: really? Happens all the time to me 17:17:41 <Eddi|zuHause> recently i was told: "you're not as stupid as you act" :p 17:19:59 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:21:58 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-prvbrasgw1-fe05dc00-37.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:23:08 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:24 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:24 *** WaveOfBabies1 [~David@cpe-075-177-004-069.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:31:10 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:23 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:34:55 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:37:04 *** WaveOfBabies [~David@cpe-075-177-004-069.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:00 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:40:45 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:41:55 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:43:07 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:43:16 *** Lakie [~Lakie@109.176.224.135] has quit [Quit: bbiab] 17:46:20 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:20 *** Zeknurn is now known as Zeknurn` 17:48:12 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:51:15 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:51:49 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:52:32 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [] 17:53:04 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:53:48 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: truebrain * r23640 /trunk/src/ (75 files in 9 dirs): -Fix: stop using FORCEINLINE (1/3rd of the instances were, the others were still regular inline), but make sure inline is always a 'forced' inline (I am looking at you MSVC) 17:54:25 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:05:31 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 18:14:39 <andythenorth> hmm 18:15:00 * andythenorth has a really excessive amount of farm supplies in a game 18:16:52 <Eddi|zuHause> what happened to the stockpile idea anyway? 18:17:40 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2296 18:19:53 <Terkhen> hello 18:20:03 <TrueBrain> hello 18:21:12 <andythenorth> hello Terkhen 18:21:19 <andythenorth> hmm 18:21:47 <andythenorth> so my 256x256 map has about 14,000 crates of FMSP waiting on stations 18:21:58 <andythenorth> and most farms / forests are served 18:22:01 <Terkhen> give them to charity organizations 18:22:07 <andythenorth> lol 18:22:23 <Terkhen> blackhole industry that accepts everything giving you nothing in return :) 18:22:36 <Terkhen> oh, maybe rating in towns :D 18:22:51 <andythenorth> without wanting to brag...HEQS steam trams are fricking awesome 18:24:49 <Terkhen> yesterday I realized that with NoGo most of what I wanted to do for a martian sci-fi conversion set is now possible 18:25:01 <Terkhen> that got me thinking for a while before falling asleep :) 18:25:18 <andythenorth> talk to Pikka ;) 18:25:24 <TrueBrain> what have I done ... 18:27:29 <andythenorth> hmm 18:29:31 <Terkhen> opening a door to madness? :) 18:29:42 * andythenorth ponders how to adjust station ratings 18:31:40 <andythenorth> Yexo: the FIRS station bonuses for 30 day / 60 day pickup seem generous? 18:34:25 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFDFC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:37 <Zuu> Terkhen: Lots of questions can now be answered by "write a NoGo script" :-) 18:37:04 <planetmaker> Terkhen: what do you need for that set? :-) 18:37:30 <planetmaker> (except a slave andy :-P ) 18:37:53 <andythenorth> no chance :P 18:38:09 <andythenorth> however I am pretty certain that mars uses trucks 18:38:21 <planetmaker> ;-) 18:38:21 <andythenorth> and that they can have arbitrary number of trailing wagons 18:38:40 <andythenorth> they probably just use these: http://www.etftrucks.eu/ 18:38:50 <Terkhen> planetmaker: the most important thing was town growth control 18:39:02 <Terkhen> besides that... random ideas :P 18:39:20 <planetmaker> :-) 18:39:31 <planetmaker> I still want such thing, too... 18:39:44 <planetmaker> Only thing I did for that end was create the hightmap ;-) 18:40:45 <planetmaker> It would - for a nice sci-fi scene - need new graphics for many things. 18:41:26 <planetmaker> Though that certainly can be a gradual thing 18:42:52 <Terkhen> yes, mechanics first, graphics later 18:43:05 <andythenorth> omg 18:43:08 <andythenorth> imagine 18:43:09 <planetmaker> What - except town growth - would you change? 18:43:10 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: translators * r23641 /trunk/src/lang/ (30 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:43:10 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:43:10 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: afrikaans - 98 changes by Maccie123, kdzar 18:43:10 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: bulgarian - 4 changes by Tvel 18:43:10 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: catalan - 44 changes by arnau 18:43:11 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 62 changes by ww9980 18:43:11 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 46 changes by elleryq, ww9980 18:43:15 <Terkhen> in my experience, graphics come when you show nice mechanics with ugly graphics 18:43:22 <andythenorth> Terkhen: you're doing it wrong 18:43:23 <planetmaker> :-) true 18:43:35 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:36 <andythenorth> the correct way is to draw sprites which are somewhere between nice and mediocre 18:43:42 <andythenorth> then argue for literally years 18:43:49 <andythenorth> meanwhile whining that you can't learn to code 18:43:51 <Terkhen> andythenorth: maybe, but it's the only right way to do it when I wouldn't be able to draw to save my life 18:44:03 <Terkhen> hmm... 18:44:29 <Terkhen> my main idea is that cargo delivery does something on the long run 18:44:40 <Terkhen> either to town, to industries or to the complete map itself 18:44:45 <planetmaker> well. Towns would require probably more cargos than now 18:44:54 <TrueBrain> oxygen! 18:44:57 <planetmaker> and maybe generally ^^ 18:45:14 <Terkhen> oxygen, water, food 18:45:15 <planetmaker> i.e. total population can't get higher than oxygen production * 100 or so 18:45:19 <andythenorth> does station rating affect anything else beside amount of cargo supplied to station? (like town mechanics) 18:45:24 <Terkhen> yes, stuff like that 18:45:27 <Terkhen> terraforming :P 18:45:44 <Terkhen> that's the other missing thing, custom terrain types 18:45:45 <planetmaker> terraforming limit linked to production of vehicles? 18:45:53 <planetmaker> or machinery? 18:46:17 <Terkhen> many things probably, depends on how overcomplicated we want it :P 18:46:50 <planetmaker> can terrain types just be optical? 18:46:58 <planetmaker> I guess not 18:48:05 <Terkhen> maybe ice could be hacked with newobjects 18:48:25 <andythenorth> hmm 18:48:37 <andythenorth> is it wrong that FIRS now provides self-regulating stations 18:48:38 <andythenorth> ? 18:48:53 <Terkhen> what's a self regulating station? 18:48:58 <planetmaker> difficult to hack climates 18:49:05 <andythenorth> i.e. they seem to cap cargo waiting around 1,000t (for my play style) 18:49:19 <andythenorth> with a rather aggressive penalty for amount of cargo waiting 18:49:25 <Terkhen> they always cap at some limit for me too 18:49:29 *** pjpe [ae5b52e7@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:49:37 <Terkhen> and I have not played with the new rating system 18:50:09 <andythenorth> basically, I want them to cap (using rating + amount supplied by industry), but still work with large, slow vehicles that pickup infrequently 18:52:04 *** virrpanna [virr@forskningsavd.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:52:04 <Terkhen> hmm... receding ice caps 18:52:07 <andythenorth> meh 18:52:09 <andythenorth> ships 18:52:20 <andythenorth> ships screw the ratings 18:52:47 <planetmaker> well... receeding ice caps could be done by means of normal snow line 18:53:16 <planetmaker> but with an average precipitation of 15µm there's not much... ;-) 18:54:04 <Terkhen> no, there are only snow at the poles, not at high mountains :) 18:54:50 <planetmaker> or deep in the valleys 18:55:03 <planetmaker> where there's never sun :-) 18:55:35 <Terkhen> we can't use the default mechanic 18:57:09 <Terkhen> hmm... 18:57:17 <Terkhen> that's probably the only missing stuff 18:58:57 <planetmaker> well, it basically is newgrf landscape type 19:00:12 <Terkhen> controllable by scripts :P 19:03:17 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:05:56 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:06:38 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:54 <planetmaker> lol :-) 19:07:32 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 19:07:40 <planetmaker> Actually I've been thinking about a global setting accessible to scripts: dissalow all industry closure and disallow all industry construction. 19:08:18 <Terkhen> industry NewGRFs might react strangely to that 19:09:32 <planetmaker> yes, I know :S 19:09:49 <planetmaker> at least to 'disallow closure' 19:10:30 <planetmaker> it would actually suffice to disallow new construction. And react on a closure even with an immediate re-construction of a new industry of the same type in the same place 19:10:47 <planetmaker> It might ail of course still. 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If not, I forse a GS library that provides something like printf for GSText. 20:21:53 <Zuu> We need GS support in bananas :-) 20:22:54 * fjb|tab votes for fortran common blocks. :-) 20:26:32 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:36 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db81fc5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:51 *** ThorB [~Twofish@box80-64-205-146.static.sdsl.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:30:32 *** Adambean [AdamR@83.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 20:31:32 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:34 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:36:14 *** pjpe [ae5b52e7@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:37:57 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:51 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:56:44 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5d2d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:57:17 <Zuu> Hmm, a GS can trigger "String 0x8D30 is invalid. You are probably using an old version of the .lng file" 20:57:39 <Zuu> And then a fatal crash/exit of OpenTTD. 20:58:02 <Rubidium> what did you do? ;) 20:58:04 <Xaroth> make a bugreport! :) 20:58:20 <Zuu> I did what TrueBrain asked me to do - try out GSText. :-) 20:58:43 <Zuu> Although I did it by subclasing GSText and provide some syntax suggar :-) 20:58:48 <Rubidium> @calc 0x8d30-0x8800 20:58:48 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 1328 20:59:45 <Rubidium> I'd be interested what you sent 21:00:14 <Rubidium> @calc 0x800-1328 21:00:14 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 720 21:00:26 <Rubidium> @baseo 10 16 720 21:00:32 <Rubidium> @base 10 16 720 21:00:32 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 2D0 21:01:04 <andythenorth> meh 21:01:07 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 21:01:08 <Rubidium> did you send a negative string ID by a chance? 21:01:16 <andythenorth> tram lines are a bit perpendicular-ish 21:01:27 <TrueBrain> show us your script :D 21:01:57 <andythenorth> are diagonals ruled out by map array? Or lack of anyone bothering? 21:02:06 <Terkhen> probably both 21:02:16 <andythenorth> not XOR then :P 21:02:28 *** snorre [~snorre@c1A0FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 21:02:35 <Rubidium> is sqrt(2)/2 wide enough to draw both sides of the tram track? 21:02:55 <Rubidium> including possible road + sidewalks ;) 21:04:17 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c1A0FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:58 *** pjpe [ae5b52e7@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:07:28 <andythenorth> ok I see the issue :P 21:08:06 <Zuu> Bug: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4899 21:08:44 <Zuu> Have fun :-) 21:09:35 <Zuu> (GS)Text is used at line 147 in main.nut of the supplied GameScript. 21:11:26 * Rubidium doesn't have superlib 18 :( 21:11:46 <Rubidium> ah, but it's in the forum 21:11:54 <Zuu> I can attach that too. Although it only use it for Helper.SetSig. 21:12:14 <Zuu> You can just s/Helper\.SetSign/GSSign.BuildSign/g 21:12:36 <Zuu> The only side effect is that the API will put signs on top of each other on the same tile. 21:12:51 <Zuu> My function changes the sign if there is one already on the tile. 21:13:07 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c1A0FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 21:14:07 <Zuu> So for the purpose of this bug, using GSSign.BuildSign is perfectly fine. 21:14:57 *** snorre [~snorre@c1A0FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:15:30 <Zuu> Is there any example of successfully using GSText out there? 21:18:53 <andythenorth> hmm 21:19:01 <andythenorth> did ship clipping get worse recently? 21:19:53 <Rubidium> Zuu: what are you trying to pass to STR_SCORE as parameter? 21:19:58 <Rubidium> it looks like some number 21:20:16 <Rubidium> which is interpreted as a stringid 21:20:36 <Zuu> yes, so ideally I should use {NUM}, but at the point when I wrote the code I just used {STRING} and converted the data type to int. 21:20:47 <Zuu> s/int/string/ 21:21:01 <Rubidium> {STRING} is a stringid, not an actual "string of characters" 21:21:10 <TrueBrain> hehe, we should harden FormatString against that I geuss Rubidium ;) 21:21:13 <Zuu> Oh 21:21:42 <Zuu> I'm sure I have done something I shouldn't, still I shouldn't be able to crash OpenTTD. 21:22:05 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: or scan the types of the params and only allow STRINGs with goal string IDs 21:22:21 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: not very easy tbh 21:22:34 <Zuu> TrueBrain: Is something like my Text possible to do in the API? 21:22:36 <TrueBrain> maybe easiest to carry a flag (yes, another) to FormatString, which tells it is a GameString we are parsing 21:22:44 <TrueBrain> then disallow {STRING} indeed, and validate {STRINGn} 21:23:01 <Zuu> Hmm, I think so, as Valuate(..) have variable amount of arguments. 21:23:10 <TrueBrain> Zuu: no clue :P Can you paste in a pastebin in simple words what you are trying? Kinda lazy to open the tars and find the right pieces :P 21:23:11 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: but you can pass basically everything to it as string id 21:23:29 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: yes; so validate that in FormatString? 21:23:32 <Rubidium> meaning you can pass a string id with rawstring which then tries to dereference some other value 21:23:53 <Rubidium> and it's pretty hard to check between valid and invalid pointer 21:24:17 <TrueBrain> well, I guess it doesn't really matter where you validate, it will boil down to the same :) 21:24:31 <TrueBrain> either in FormatString based on DParam, or in receiving/sending, when making the parameters :) 21:24:32 <Zuu> TrueBrain: Entire main.nut except copyright notice: http://pastebin.com/Q261yPnD 21:25:12 <TrueBrain> Zuu: nothing wrong with that; why? 21:25:17 <TrueBrain> owh, you want it in the API itself? 21:25:33 <TrueBrain> not really possible, hence the AddParam 21:25:51 <TrueBrain> ctors are kinda tied up in their function, can't accept vaargs 21:26:12 <Zuu> Okay 21:26:31 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: you can also give a string to for example {COMPANY} 21:26:38 <TrueBrain> that won't crash anything, else I hardened these cases already 21:27:02 <TrueBrain> but hardening {STRING} and {STRINGn} is harder, because there is a difference between GameScript and normal OpenTTD 21:27:09 <TrueBrain> you still want that warning when you are not coming from a GameScript :) 21:27:21 <TrueBrain> s/else/as/ 21:28:00 <Zuu> Hmm, so using {NUM} and passing the parameter as int instead of string works. 21:28:06 <Rubidium> well, the {STRING}s and the likes aren't what bother me, it's the random string IDs being passed 21:28:13 <Zuu> including using my Text class. 21:28:16 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: what do you mean? 21:28:20 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:28:25 <TrueBrain> Zuu: I wouldn't know why not 21:28:30 <TrueBrain> just {NUM} needs an integer, not a string :) 21:28:56 <Zuu> The problem would be if the API for some reason would not detect that Text is a subclass of GSText. 21:29:10 <TrueBrain> make sure it is a child of GSText :) 21:29:19 <TrueBrain> Squirrel (and our glue) do the rest (I hope) 21:29:19 <Zuu> It is. 21:29:34 <TrueBrain> else it will error/crash :P 21:29:34 <Rubidium> STR_FOO:{STRING1} (params: 0x8839, 0xDEADBEEF) (0x8839 translates to STR_JUST_RAW_STRING) 21:29:46 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: like I said: harden for gamescripts :) 21:29:58 <Zuu> So if it is hard/impossible to get Text into the API, I could add it as a library when we get bananas support for NoGo. ;-) 21:30:08 <TrueBrain> if (gamescript && (arg->ToInt() < GAME_TAB || arg->ToInt() > GAME_TAB + (1 << ??)) break; 21:30:24 <TrueBrain> Zuu: BaNaNaS supports NoGO 21:30:35 <Zuu> TrueBrain: It does? 21:30:38 <TrueBrain> it does 21:30:45 <Zuu> But not the website? 21:30:48 <TrueBrain> it does 21:30:52 <TrueBrain> try to upload :) 21:31:25 <Zuu> Oh, the website just don't show "tabs" for empty categories? 21:31:33 <TrueBrain> not for GameScripts atm 21:31:36 <TrueBrain> mostly because they would be empty 21:31:44 <TrueBrain> and because the navigation is full :P 21:32:19 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: {STRING1} should never receive a value outside the GAME_TAB .. GAME_TAB + (1 << ??), so we can just harden for it when it is a GameScript. That is what I meant with: we need an extra parameter in FormatString :) 21:32:21 <Zuu> So I can go ahead ad upload SuperLib then. :-) 21:32:31 <TrueBrain> or maybe check if the current string is within that range .. would do too I guess 21:32:40 *** fjb|tab is now known as Guest21151 21:32:41 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFDFC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:07 *** Guest21151 [~frank@p5DDFDFC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34:12 <Zuu> TrueBrain: Could the dependency list by chance grow a couple of rows? Or is that a job for a local CSS modifier? 21:34:25 <TrueBrain> euh ... I guess that is fixable 21:34:29 <TrueBrain> too tired atm, sorry :) 21:34:37 <Zuu> No problem 21:37:36 <Zuu> Sorting by Type, Name would be useful too 21:39:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:44:04 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/fs4899.diff <- stops the crashing, but not sure whether it's complete at all 21:44:53 <Zuu> What is the best name "SuperLib for GameScript" or "SuperLib for NoGo"? 21:45:46 * Zuu guesses that GameScript will be recognized by more players as that is what it is labeled as in the GUI 21:46:08 <Zuu> On the other hand the framework is called NoGo.. 21:46:33 <Xaroth> SuperGoLib? 21:46:39 <andythenorth> are we still thinking only one GS running per game? 21:46:45 <Terkhen> how did you call the one for NoAI? 21:46:53 <Zuu> SuperLib 21:47:07 <Terkhen> true, no need to specify back then :P 21:47:10 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 21:47:10 <Zuu> In the file name I use "nogo" 21:48:31 <Zuu> Xaroth: Not a bad suggestion :-) 21:48:45 <Xaroth> :) :) :) 21:49:01 <Xaroth> should've renamed SuperLib to SuperAILib .. but the rename period has passed :P 21:49:25 *** LordPixaII is now known as Pixa 21:49:41 <Zuu> Though, appending NoGo/GameScript/GS will make it more clear that they are related. 21:50:28 <andythenorth> hmm 21:50:45 <Zuu> Or just plain "SuperLib GS" 21:50:46 <andythenorth> NoGo to fix industry openings ...wrong-headed? 21:53:07 <Zuu> What is the requirements for a GS Library file? - I get "Not a GS Library file" when trying to upload SuperLib 18 - NoGo eddition 21:53:24 <Zuu> edition* 21:57:47 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@client-82-31-30-18.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 21:58:38 <Rubidium> api version? 21:59:11 <Zuu> 1.1 .. could be the problem? 22:02:01 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111115183541]] 22:03:10 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: your patch is what I had in mind; at least it would avoid most of the crashes :) 22:04:15 *** pjpe [ae5b52e7@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:05:19 <TrueBrain> Zuu: no, shouldn't be the problem, but it also should be 1.2 of course :) 22:06:38 <Zuu> Ok, so that is not the problem. 22:06:48 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-177-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 22:07:12 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23644 /trunk/src/ (strings.cpp strings_func.h): 22:07:12 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#4899]: prevent game scripts using StringIDs that are not coming from 22:07:12 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: themselves, so the game script doesn't "accidentally" try to display an invalid 22:07:12 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: string or try to display a town name in from an unknown town name generator 22:07:33 <TrueBrain> Zuu: how about now? 22:08:11 <Zuu> Nope 22:08:35 <Zuu> "Not a GS Library file." 22:08:58 <TrueBrain> now? 22:09:08 <Zuu> Yes 22:09:11 <Zuu> Thanks 22:10:05 <TrueBrain> think I also fixed GS, but I am sure you will tell me if I didnt :) 22:10:47 <Zuu> The dependancy list is now however empty. 22:10:52 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-181-162.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 22:11:11 <Zuu> (that is when clicking to update a GS library) 22:11:36 <Zuu> No actual change, when uploading a completely new item, the full list is still displayed. 22:11:41 <TrueBrain> the GS library itself is not in the list of the GS library :P 22:12:02 <Zuu> Though, I wonder if a GS library should be allowed to depend on any files. 22:12:14 <TrueBrain> gs libs can only depends on gs libs for now 22:12:43 <TrueBrain> I might add grfs or scenarios in the future, but it will look very ugly and annoying atm 22:13:15 <Zuu> I think it is the scenarios that should depend on the GS and not the other way around. 22:13:22 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: Sla Mutant Co-Op for Renegade - coming back soon] 22:13:40 <Zuu> At least with current OpenTTD. 22:14:22 <planetmaker> I agree there :-) 22:14:45 <Zuu> And a scenario shouldn't directly depend on a GS Library. 22:14:58 <Zuu> only GameScripts. 22:15:12 <Zuu> (or AIs) 22:15:25 <Zuu> (or NewGRFs) 22:16:01 <TrueBrain> http://bananas.openttd.org/en/gslibrary/ 22:16:03 <TrueBrain> for the curious 22:19:38 * Zuu the question machine asks: would it be possible to allow GSLog.Info() to take GSText instances and print the tarnsaltion rather than the memory address? 22:21:19 <Zuu> Or is it out of the scope to translate log messages? 22:21:30 <TrueBrain> it is not the intention to have logs translatable 22:21:37 <TrueBrain> for the same the AI cant translate strings 22:21:41 <TrueBrain> logs are for debugging purposes 22:21:49 <TrueBrain> not sure if you really want to receive screenshots in a strange language :D 22:21:50 <Zuu> Of course, I see the problem of debugging it if it is in Spanish 22:22:06 <TrueBrain> I leave which language is strnage up to you :P 22:25:11 * Zuu has made a mistake - picked the wrong license 22:25:21 <__ln__> even worse, it could be in swedish! 22:25:28 <Zuu> I guess I have to make 19.1 22:25:42 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db81fc5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:48 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 22:30:37 <Zuu> A library eddition that features extra indentation in a comment in main.nut :-) 22:33:04 <Terkhen> good night 22:33:54 *** John [02c1158f@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:34:20 <John> hi again :9 22:34:30 <John> i have a question 22:34:43 <TrueBrain> again? You had your 1 question for the day already! :D 22:35:00 <John> XDXD 22:35:40 <John> i have setted up a bus network between 3 cities 22:35:51 <__ln__> *set, set, set 22:36:00 <John> in one of the station appears 30 passengers 22:36:15 <John> oh god, my english teacher will kill me XD 22:36:33 <__ln__> how violent 22:36:41 <John> 30 passengers that wants to stay in the station XD 22:37:04 <John> it seems that they live there 22:37:15 <John> they dont want to go away 22:37:42 <John> it says "stopping at this station" 22:40:27 <John> any ideas? 22:42:18 *** Kandri [~root@198.81-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #openttd 22:42:26 *** Kandri is now known as Mast3rPlan 22:42:28 <Mast3rPlan> hey guys 22:43:06 <Mast3rPlan> anyone know why trains aren't going for maintenance? http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5896/screenshot2011122023470.jpg 22:44:51 <Mast3rPlan> Anyone?... 22:45:15 <John> i dont know sorry, im a newbie :) 22:45:34 <John> but maybe you can help me ;) 22:45:45 <Mast3rPlan> HAha 22:45:47 <Mast3rPlan> okay :D 22:45:52 <Mast3rPlan> What's up? 22:45:54 <John> i have set up a bus network between 3 cities 22:46:12 <John> but 30 passengers wants to stay in the station XD 22:46:20 <John> it says "stopping at this station" 22:46:29 <John> it seems that they live there 22:46:39 <John> they dont want to go away 22:46:49 <Mast3rPlan> does the station accept passengers? 22:46:59 <John> oh, im using cargodist 22:47:00 <John> yes 22:47:15 <John> is a feature of cargodist 22:47:32 <John> but the other stations send and receive passengers normally 22:48:04 <John> they come from another station, but seems that they havent a destination 22:48:11 <Mast3rPlan> weird 22:48:15 <Mast3rPlan> I don't know cargodist 22:48:17 <Mast3rPlan> what is it? 22:48:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-180-12-160.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:48:54 <Mast3rPlan> You might wanna see my transfer station I designed 22:48:55 <Mast3rPlan> http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3326/screenshot2011122023525.png 22:49:05 <Yexo> John: upload your savegame to the cargodist topic 22:49:14 <John> is a version on openttd that increase the realism, giving a destination 4 passengers and cargos 22:49:37 <Yexo> Mast3rPlan: the depot is too far away from the normal route 22:49:46 <John> ok, ill do it 22:49:56 <John> you dont see this never? 22:50:02 <Yexo> also: please make screenshots in png format (ctrl+s in-game), the quality is a lot better 22:50:54 *** John [02c1158f@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:51:24 <fjb|tab> Mast3rPlan: Your depot is to far away from the switch / signal where the trains have to decide where to go. 22:53:32 <Mast3rPlan> Ooh thanks 22:53:33 <Mast3rPlan> well 22:53:43 <Mast3rPlan> As you can see I added two depots 22:55:23 <appe> http://fac.dndr.se/poo/new_dump/appe_deathawaitssmakprov.mp3 <- yes/no? (it's music). 22:56:11 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-prvbrasgw1-fe05dc00-37.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:56:40 <fjb|tab> Where is the musik? 23:01:18 <Zuu> TrueBrain: bananas complain on english.txt in a GS 23:02:00 <TrueBrain> hahahahah 23:02:01 <TrueBrain> yeah 23:02:03 <TrueBrain> it does :D 23:02:05 <TrueBrain> hmm 23:02:08 <TrueBrain> let me try to fix it :D 23:02:29 <Zuu> whitelist lang/*.txt ? 23:03:21 <TrueBrain> sadly, not that easy 23:03:44 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5d2d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07:35 <TrueBrain> k, put untested code online 23:07:38 <TrueBrain> give it a hit please :D 23:07:57 <Zuu> didn't work 23:08:07 <Zuu> (same error) 23:08:12 <TrueBrain> hmmmmmmmm 23:08:19 <Zuu> "Unknown file in pack: english.txt" 23:08:40 <TrueBrain> no directory? 23:08:42 <TrueBrain> odd 23:10:10 <TrueBrain> now? 23:10:30 <Zuu> "Unexpected error while uploading." 23:12:17 <Zuu> a ls -R of the tar contents: http://pastebin.com/dbRkeMKG 23:12:18 <TrueBrain> now? 23:12:36 <Zuu> Yes! 23:12:48 <TrueBrain> now lets see if the upload was correct .... 23:13:27 <TrueBrain> seems it is :) 23:13:43 <TrueBrain> tnx Zuu :) 23:13:46 <Zuu> The category labels looks strange in OpenTTD 23:14:04 <TrueBrain> Game Script and GS Library? 23:14:07 <Zuu> Yep 23:14:15 <Zuu> White text and not that text 23:14:16 <TrueBrain> what would you suggest? 23:14:36 <Zuu> but "Downloading content" and "Requesting files..." 23:14:55 <Zuu> Using last nightly "23641" 23:15:18 <TrueBrain> lol ..... 23:15:23 <TrueBrain> guess I forgot something somewhere 23:16:11 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 23:16:42 <TrueBrain> ah, 2 missing strings 23:16:45 <TrueBrain> undocumented features :D 23:18:57 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/03_fix.patch 23:19:00 <TrueBrain> such simpel patches ... 23:25:00 *** TomyLobo [~foo@p54946D9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 23:28:49 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: truebrain * r23645 /trunk/src/lang/english.txt: -Fix: missing 2 strings 23:29:10 <TrueBrain> tnx Zuu! :) 23:29:31 <Zuu> Good! 23:39:24 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F69.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:39 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:44 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:47:28 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.86.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:55:49 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop]