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05:00:28 <Nat_as> I changed the Developer setting and understand this can crash the game, but I can't seem to even find the option to load new newgrifs into an existing scenerio 05:00:49 <Nat_as> which really sucks when people make tropical maps without the tropical refurbishment set 05:03:47 <Nat_as> (and is anybody awake?) 05:09:07 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111221202647]] 05:13:33 <Nat_as> no wait, I hit the wrong settings, it works now 05:13:35 <Nat_as> Woooo! 05:13:43 <Nat_as> thanks anyways sleepy people! 05:13:55 *** Nat_as [83bf2240@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 05:19:26 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 05:25:18 *** Aali [~aali@h-185-102.a189.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:25:47 *** fjb|tab is now known as Guest23434 05:25:47 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFE2C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:28:45 *** Guest23434 [~frank@p5DDFD15F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:30:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75E23.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:30:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75E23.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:33:49 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 05:42:24 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75E23.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7426B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:31:53 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Snail_] 06:41:56 *** Elukka [~Elukka@78-27-84-248.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:43:59 *** DDR_ [~DDR@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 06:49:44 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.87.57] has joined #openttd 06:56:23 *** MJP [~TdlQ@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 06:57:10 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:08:11 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 07:15:50 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.87.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:20:29 *** Elukka [~Elukka@78-27-84-248.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:23:30 <planetmaker> moin 07:38:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A469.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:55:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.177.5] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:05:52 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 08:09:30 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 08:11:06 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has left #openttd [] 08:19:10 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 08:43:08 *** mouseym [~clum@host-92-3-239-85.as43234.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:44:17 *** MJP [~TdlQ@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:14:03 *** Arafangion [~Arafangio@220-244-108-23.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:21:56 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-44-117.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 09:23:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:39:13 *** DDR_ [~DDR@142.179.78.88] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 10:01:29 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-028-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:04:07 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-63-162.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:13:05 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:51:53 *** fjb|tab is now known as Guest23457 10:51:53 *** Guest23457 [~frank@p5DDFE2C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51:54 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFE2C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:07:51 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 11:16:06 <peter1138> load average: 150.28, 149.27, 148.63 11:16:09 <peter1138> not so good :p 11:18:37 <planetmaker> :-) 11:26:36 <^Spike^> ah... just 150? :) 11:26:44 * ^Spike^ saw like 600 2 weeks ago... :) 11:28:52 <TrueBrain> lol @ peter1138 :) 11:52:51 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-79-88.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:58:55 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-79-110.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:16:35 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-63-162.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:53:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:09:56 <Eddi|zuHause> "please don't include an expert mode that can screw up things. people always think they're experts." 13:10:30 <planetmaker> quite right 13:10:51 *** TomyLobo2 [~foo@p54946469.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:14:29 *** Elukka [~Elukka@78-27-84-248.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 13:15:30 <TrueBrain> but I am! 13:15:31 <TrueBrain> really! 13:16:42 *** TomyLobo [~foo@p549462CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:42 *** TomyLobo2 is now known as TomyLobo 13:18:02 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 13:18:07 *** TGYoshi_ [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 13:23:18 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:24:39 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D58.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 13:24:39 *** Guest23340 is now known as Mark 13:24:53 *** [1]Mark [~Mark@5ED06D58.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:24:54 *** Mark is now known as Guest23461 13:24:54 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 13:29:30 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:30:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:30:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 13:38:44 *** lollercaust [~paper@41.Red-88-15-116.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 13:45:21 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Snail_] 13:53:00 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:31 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:08:56 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: but we have an expert mode... it allows you to change everything about the game ;) 14:09:27 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i guess it helps when it's not called "expert mode" :) 14:09:42 <Eddi|zuHause> but more like "source code" :p 14:16:58 *** lollercaust [~paper@41.Red-88-15-116.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:19:24 <Belugas> hello 14:29:29 *** Adambean [~AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 14:39:09 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:11 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 14:40:39 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 14:46:05 <rasco> i made a server that runs 3 times as slowly by pausing the game constantly 14:47:40 <peter1138> heh 14:48:32 <peter1138> in video/dedicated_v.cpp, change the 30s to 90s :p 14:50:51 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:52 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 14:52:40 <rasco> no, i made it server-side only 14:52:48 <rasco> so you dont need a modified client 14:52:50 <TrueBrain> what peter1138 says is server side only 14:53:37 <rasco> uh? what does it do? 14:53:48 <peter1138> makes it run 3x as slowly 14:53:54 <rasco> is it only in 1.2? 14:54:01 <rasco> cause i cant find a "30" in that file 14:54:59 <TrueBrain> in src/gfx_type.h these days 14:55:01 <TrueBrain> silly enough 14:55:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:55:27 <rasco> awesome... and that works? i gotta try it out right now... 14:56:22 <rasco> cause i talked to ppl yesterday 14:56:28 <rasco> and they said it's not possible to slow the game down 14:56:48 <rasco> without economic effects 14:57:41 <TrueBrain> that was because you asked the wrong question; or at least, it was understood as another question 14:57:51 <michi_cc> Slowing the game down without economic effects is totally easy. Only that people don't actually want that :) 14:58:13 <TrueBrain> michi_cc: I guess we found someone who does; he is now pausing the game to get the same :P 14:58:24 <michi_cc> Because it also means 'slowing vehicles down' which most people don't want. 14:58:36 <rasco> oh, okay. yes i want EVERYTHING slowed down 14:58:50 <rasco> so that i can play the game over weeks 14:59:01 <rasco> without having to spend hours in front of the screen 14:59:06 <peter1138> :) 14:59:07 <andythenorth> use the patch from Eddi|zuHause :P 14:59:10 <TrueBrain> from our point of view, it is a very unusual request 14:59:16 <TrueBrain> but yeah, you can slow down the whole game easily :P 14:59:22 <rasco> it's more like a MMO 14:59:30 <rasco> well, without the massive... 14:59:35 <rasco> but you know what i mean 14:59:36 <TrueBrain> just vehicle movement will be painfully slow :( 14:59:39 <michi_cc> Easy, just change MILLISECONDS_PER_TICK in gfx_type.h to whatever you want. 14:59:54 <TrueBrain> michi_cc: that was what peter1138 said yes :P 15:00:04 <planetmaker> rasco, you can also just enable the "build in pause" mode and only unpause when needed 15:00:15 <rasco> wow haha changing MILLISECONDS_PER_TICK effects every single file -> recompile EVERYTHING :D :( 15:00:17 <peter1138> i guess my tree is old? :P 15:00:25 <peter1138> yeah, damn those headers 15:00:35 <rasco> planetmaker: i want to make a server for many people, running for weeks or months 15:00:42 <rasco> starting at 1800 or sth 15:00:45 <rasco> with NARS 15:00:52 <rasco> an epic world 15:01:24 <rasco> so i dont want to be pausing and unpausing manually 15:01:31 <rasco> but instead just have the game run really slowly 15:01:31 <planetmaker> I see 15:03:19 <rasco> how many minutes is a month approximately? 15:03:24 <rasco> or seconds 15:03:31 <TrueBrain> 74 ticks in a day 15:04:54 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:05:44 <planetmaker> a year computes roughly to 13 ... 14 minutes 15:06:32 <rasco> i might make a year take something like... 6 hours 15:07:00 <rasco> 25 days for 100 years 15:07:22 <rasco> two months for a game from 1800 to 2000 15:07:51 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:28 <rasco> is it possible for the server to take money from a company without a desync? 15:30:55 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:31:25 <TrueBrain> only if you send it to another company 15:44:28 <TWerkhoven> that reminds me of something, why do you 'give money' to a clien 15:44:34 <TWerkhoven> t instead of a company 15:44:57 <planetmaker> rasco, game scripts might do that. Or can't they already, TrueBrain ? 15:44:59 <TWerkhoven> even though the money goes into the company vault 15:45:06 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: nope 15:45:12 <TrueBrain> TWerkhoven: histerical reasons 15:45:20 <planetmaker> ah. sad :-( 15:45:24 <andythenorth> * raisins 15:45:37 <planetmaker> hysterical raisins even 15:45:48 <TWerkhoven> hehe 15:46:54 <rasco> Ultra slow NARS server: webciv.net 15:46:59 <rasco> Just started, year 1830 15:51:00 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:52:33 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-prvbrasgw1-fe05dc00-37.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:58:43 <rasco> now that i see my horse carriages moving ultra slowly i see that i'd actually like to see them move faster, just with less in-game time passing :) 15:59:02 <rasco> does eddi's patch work well? 16:02:20 *** mouseym [~clum@host-92-3-239-85.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 16:02:42 <TrueBrain> rasco: pick any daylength patch for that :) 16:02:50 <TrueBrain> read carefully what they do, as they all approach the problem differently 16:03:46 <rasco> i only found one daylength patch 16:03:50 <rasco> the one by pavel 16:04:06 <andythenorth> the patch by Eddi|zuHause is stupid and utterly brilliant 16:04:29 <rasco> what's stupid and what's brilliant about it? 16:04:39 <andythenorth> at the end of each year, it rewinds the date by 1 year (it does this once only for eac year) 16:04:50 <rasco> :D 16:04:57 <andythenorth> in the game, this actually works perfectly 16:04:58 *** kais58 [~kais58@baud.org.uk] has joined #openttd 16:05:06 <rasco> is there any that works server-side only? 16:05:08 <andythenorth> but it means vehicle availability is a little odd 16:11:49 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 16:23:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26:38 <planetmaker> rasco, I guess your pausing-idea is the only server-side solution which seems possible 16:31:31 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:33 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 16:39:44 *** APTX_ [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 16:41:09 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:42:33 *** JoeyJo0 [~JoeyJo0@D978094C.cm-3-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.177.5] has joined #openttd 17:03:35 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 17:03:45 *** APTX_ [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10:55 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:11:39 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.4.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21:54 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009111.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 17:31:30 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFE2C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:55 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.4.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 17:53:52 <frosch123> always misreads the name of the grf "Cantilever Bidge Renewal" 17:53:58 <frosch123> + /me 17:54:07 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:58:14 *** MJP [~TdlQ@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 18:08:00 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:890e:40e1:faf7:3635] has joined #openttd 18:08:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:10:35 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFE2C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:38:37 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host48-239-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:40:15 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:56 <Wolf01> hello o/ 18:45:09 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:45:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r23779 /trunk/src/lang/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:45:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bulgarian - 12 changes by kokobongo 18:45:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 4 changes by VoyagerOne 18:45:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 2 changes by habell 18:45:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: english_AU - 2 changes by tomas4g 18:45:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 25 changes by Parastais, Tranzistors 18:48:33 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:50:34 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-63-162.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:04:16 <Terkhen> hello 19:05:37 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-5-205.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:06:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6B35A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:12:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.177.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15:13 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:25:53 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:28:46 *** Rezt [~Rezt@81-178-198-172.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 19:33:49 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has joined #openttd 19:35:57 *** Adambean [~AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:45:32 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has joined #openttd 20:15:42 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.99.46] has joined #openttd 20:27:27 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-041-150.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 20:37:07 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:39:57 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:43:21 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 20:49:41 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has joined #openttd 20:51:51 *** mikegrb_ is now known as mikegrb 20:55:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 20:58:27 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:58:42 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab575.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:01:54 *** tusk [4b278309@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:03:17 <planetmaker> A goal script can't yet try to found an industry, right? 21:03:27 <planetmaker> http://nogo.openttd.org/api/trunk/classGSIndustry.html 21:03:28 *** tusk [4b278309@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [] 21:13:09 <frosch123> planetmaker: http://nogo.openttd.org/api/trunk/classGSIndustryType.html#93f829d0a8482889ddefd1d215cb34a7 21:13:32 <frosch123> need extending for OWNER_DEITY though 21:13:50 <frosch123> it can only make other companies fund industries :p 21:13:55 <planetmaker> :-D 21:14:09 <planetmaker> and it can't give you yet money iirc 21:14:18 <planetmaker> but make you build industries. Nice ;-) 21:14:47 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab575.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:57 <planetmaker> "You have a possession to fund a new industry every year. Make sure you have enough money! [ ] accept [ ] quit game" 21:15:12 <planetmaker> s/possession/obsession/g 21:15:44 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 21:20:39 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 21:20:51 <Wolf01> 'night 21:20:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host48-239-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:22:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r23780 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 21:22:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#4963] (r23764): also name the two new errors server-side. As extra, 21:22:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: split up one of the errors in 3 errors, to be more specific what goes wrong. As 21:22:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: cherry on top, make sure on all sides we can never again forget to add such 21:22:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: entries on both sides, by introducing an assert_compile() 21:27:32 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:41:02 *** brendan10211 [~brendan10@cpe-069-134-169-113.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:41:16 <brendan10211> ehllo all 21:41:19 <brendan10211> hello 21:42:28 <planetmaker> HELO 21:47:08 *** brendan10211 [~brendan10@cpe-069-134-169-113.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:50:01 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:53:09 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-028-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 22:05:29 *** [lan3y] [tom.lane0@5ade4375.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 22:09:07 *** [lan3y] [tom.lane0@5ade4375.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 22:10:43 *** brendan10211 [~brendan10@cpe-069-134-169-113.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:15:23 *** Nemoder [~quassel@96-39-200-110.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #openttd 22:15:54 <brendan10211> herro all 22:16:01 <brendan10211> aaand bai 22:16:07 *** brendan10211 [~brendan10@cpe-069-134-169-113.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish...] 22:16:07 <Nemoder> hi, I'm running stable and can't figure out how to get any of the town name newgrf's to work, it just defaults to whatever is set in game options 22:17:54 <Nemoder> is there some trick to activating them? 22:19:26 <Noldo> what did you find with google? 22:20:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23781 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#4964]: under certain circumstances, e.g. a single invalid order, trying to determine the next order state could end up in an infinite loop 22:20:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23782 /trunk/src/strings.cpp: -Fix [FS#4965]: crash due to genders used for station name in hangar string of Italian translation 22:21:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23783 /trunk/src/ (command.cpp command_type.h vehicle_cmd.cpp): -Cleanup: remove ancient but not needed command flag 22:22:04 *** TGYoshi_ [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 22:22:37 <Nemoder> Noldo: me? nothing helpful, just to add them to the newgrf list, but it doesn't seem to change anything on new games 22:23:31 <Rubidium> you still need to choose the town name generator in the "game options", although I don't know how that'd exactly work in the configuration file 22:23:46 <Rubidium> but generate a configuration file with the GUI and use thatt 22:24:45 <Nemoder> oh, just manually edit the config file? the game option screen doesn't add newgrf names to that menu 22:27:30 <Nemoder> ahh nevermind, i had to restart the game 22:27:52 <Nemoder> seems fine now, thanks 22:28:41 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-prvbrasgw1-fe05dc00-37.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:30:59 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 22:31:08 <andythenorth> is there anyway to do something like a "for 1 to n" loop in CPP? 22:31:14 *** Nemoder [~quassel@96-39-200-110.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has left #openttd [http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 22:31:39 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:32:29 <valhallasw> for(i=0;i<=n;i++) {} ? 22:32:49 <andythenorth> looks like C++ ;) 22:33:01 <valhallasw> oh, you mean something else with cpp? 22:33:35 <Terkhen> good night 22:34:08 * andythenorth suspects pre-processor doesn't do for loops :P 22:34:58 <valhallasw> you could probably include a pipe though 22:35:03 <valhallasw> which gives the same effect 22:35:14 <valhallasw> with some more code cruft, though ;-) 22:35:34 <valhallasw> (I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish) 22:35:38 <michi_cc> What have pipes to do with the C PreProcessor? 22:36:05 <michi_cc> cpp, not c++ :) 22:36:17 <valhallasw> yes, I read that. 22:37:02 <andythenorth> I have stuff like this, but it doesn't scale well to 'n' trailers :P 22:37:03 <andythenorth> #if THIS_NUM_TRAILERS == 1 22:37:04 <andythenorth> #include "../templates/trailer_callbacks/build_1_trailer_cb.tnml" 22:37:04 <andythenorth> #endif 22:37:05 <valhallasw> the preprocessor maybe cannot do loops, but you could make a program to unroll it yourself and pump it through a pipe into the preprocessor ;-) 22:37:17 <valhallasw> or just make your own pre-preprocessor! 22:37:24 <planetmaker> andythenorth: what is your aim? 22:39:22 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:39:55 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest23511 22:39:56 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-2-101-97-155.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:17 <andythenorth> planetmaker: the aim is templating to handle 1-n trailers 22:40:26 <andythenorth> realistically n is probably 4 though 22:40:31 <andythenorth> so I don't know if it's worth the effort 22:40:38 <planetmaker> templating is not an aim 22:40:39 <andythenorth> I might just hard-code evey 22:40:45 <andythenorth> *everything 22:40:47 <planetmaker> what does it look like 22:42:04 <andythenorth> I didn't write all of it yet, but here's an example: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/914/ 22:42:13 <andythenorth> that's fine for 3 trailers, and would extend easily to 4 22:42:23 <andythenorth> but I wanted to see if there was a way to scale to n 22:42:33 <andythenorth> "write it twice, automate it" :P 22:43:45 <planetmaker> I don't get that approach, andy 22:43:55 <andythenorth> in the example code? 22:43:57 <planetmaker> why not make a template for each trailer# and just include that? 22:44:11 <planetmaker> instead of #define NUM_TRAILERS 1 22:44:20 <planetmaker> #include trailers.tnml 22:44:30 <planetmaker> use #include trailers_1.tnml 22:44:59 <andythenorth> hmm 22:45:01 <andythenorth> let's see 22:45:13 *** Guest23511 [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:42 <andythenorth> there was some reason that made sense at the time :P 22:45:58 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-5-205.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46:01 <iddqd> just finished building my new system 22:46:05 <iddqd> jealous much? 22:46:07 <iddqd> :3 22:46:15 <^Spike^> whoop die fricking doo 22:46:21 <iddqd> oh he jealous 22:46:41 <^Spike^> wrong channel actually.. but it fits anyway 22:46:52 <^Spike^> cause reading that i do have the same thoughts 22:50:56 <TrueBrain> ^Spike^: it is indeed an appropiate reply in any channel :P 22:51:47 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: there is some way to replace tokens in strings, so something along the lines of "build_" ## NUM_TRAILERS ## "_trailer_cb" 22:52:04 <andythenorth> I wondered about that 22:52:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure about the exact syntax 22:52:23 <Eddi|zuHause> but it definitely is possible 22:52:36 <Hawson> openttd/trunk/src/screenshot.cpp:725:40: error: ?FileExists? was not declared in this scope 22:52:39 <Hawson> hmmm... 22:52:41 <andythenorth> I could do it nearly in nml as well, with an extra switch and advanced varact 2 22:53:00 <andythenorth> write the number of trailers into the switch with CPP and branch accordingly 22:53:04 <Hawson> r23783 22:54:11 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: why not just define your artic callback as "01 NUM_TRAILERS TRAILER_ID"? then it works for any number of trailers 22:54:21 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: don't need a template for each 22:55:21 <Eddi|zuHause> Hawson: there recently was some header shuffling 22:55:24 <andythenorth> CPP in the upper bound of the range? 22:55:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A469.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:35 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: yes 22:55:56 <Hawson> Eddi|zuHause: I figured, though I'd mention it. 22:56:34 <TrueBrain> @op 22:56:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 22:56:39 *** TrueBrain changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.1.4, 1.2.0-beta2 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, ever | English only 22:56:41 <TrueBrain> @deop 22:56:44 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 22:56:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Hawson: which compiler? 22:57:07 <Hawson> gcc 22:57:12 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.99.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:57:13 <rasco> hey guys, wanna join my Ultra Slow game? time runs 10 times slower than normal: address: webciv.net 22:57:14 <Eddi|zuHause> OS? 22:57:21 <Hawson> 3.4.6 22:57:24 <Hawson> Fedora 16 22:57:29 <TrueBrain> 3.4.6?! 22:57:35 <TrueBrain> holy crap :P 22:57:40 <Hawson> gcc version 3.4.6 20060404 (Red Hat 3.4.6-11) 22:57:43 * Hawson shrugs 22:57:52 <Hawson> Oh, sorry 22:57:54 <Hawson> wrong host. 22:57:59 <Hawson> that's my Centos4 box. :) 22:58:09 <Hawson> gcc version 4.6.2 20111027 (Red Hat 4.6.2-1) (GCC) 22:58:12 <Hawson> that's correct 22:58:22 <andythenorth> hmm 22:58:23 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds more sane :p 22:58:48 <Hawson> slightly 22:58:50 <Hawson> but only just 22:58:57 <TrueBrain> any special configure options you used? 22:59:27 <Hawson> well, *I* don't think so. :) 22:59:30 <Hawson> lemme paste it 22:59:47 <TrueBrain> any local modifications? 22:59:49 <TrueBrain> lets start with that 23:00:06 <Hawson> no local changes 23:00:09 <Hawson> this is straght SVN 23:00:26 <TrueBrain> let me guess, you dont have png :) 23:00:54 <Hawson> that'd be a good guess... 23:01:19 <Hawson> and while correct (missing libpng-devel package), that's not the problem 23:02:16 <Hawson> I disable some of the compression options 23:02:18 <Hawson> lzma, etc 23:02:29 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to reconfigure after installing stuff 23:03:32 <Hawson> did that, actually 23:03:32 <frosch123> night 23:03:35 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009111.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r23784 /trunk/src/screenshot.cpp: -Revert (r23740): compiling without libpng failed to include a correct header 23:04:10 <TrueBrain> that should do it 23:04:10 <Hawson> (doing a full rebuild) 23:04:19 <planetmaker> Hawson: w/o liblzma you might be unable to join some servers 23:04:21 <Hawson> I have that instlaled 23:04:24 <Hawson> planetmaker: that's okay 23:04:40 <Hawson> I saw the warnings 23:04:51 <Hawson> during ./configure and both understand and accept them 23:04:55 <planetmaker> I'd even guess: most servers 23:05:00 <planetmaker> it's our default compression 23:05:09 <Hawson> I'm not going to connect remotely from this system 23:05:15 <planetmaker> ok 23:05:34 <TrueBrain> include-trees are a bitch! :) 23:05:36 <Hawson> builds okay now 23:05:38 <Hawson> TrueBrain: indeed 23:05:51 <TrueBrain> anyway, I was going to bad I said 15 minutes ago :) 23:05:53 <TrueBrain> night! 23:05:59 <planetmaker> sleep well, TrueBrain 23:06:04 <Hawson> thanks 23:06:05 <planetmaker> And I should go, too. 23:06:08 <planetmaker> g'night all 23:06:29 <Eddi|zuHause> bah... the colours struck again... 23:06:40 <Eddi|zuHause> two blue people talking makes them totally indistinguishible 23:07:14 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: you took a blue pill? 23:07:22 *** Rezt [~Rezt@81-178-198-172.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:07:55 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i wouldn't actually remember that, that's the point of the blue pill 23:08:24 <andythenorth> hmm 23:08:35 <andythenorth> maybe I should stop ducking the issue, and just write a code generator 23:08:42 <andythenorth> but that will suck 23:08:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a code generator :) 23:08:55 <andythenorth> writing unscalable CPP is much better surely :P 23:09:21 *** Rezt [~Rezt@81-178-198-172.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 23:09:25 <Eddi|zuHause> it's also shinily refactored since i last offered it to you :) 23:09:42 <andythenorth> o rly 23:09:48 <andythenorth> hmm 23:09:56 <andythenorth> on the one hand that sounds shiny 23:10:03 <andythenorth> on the other, my code is nearly done :( 23:10:17 <andythenorth> if I rewrote it, or used a generator it's only to make it more elegant :P 23:10:23 <andythenorth> it won't make the trucks any better 23:10:43 <andythenorth> is there anything actually wrong with clunky CPP? 23:14:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-2-101-97-155.as13285.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:14:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-2-101-97-155.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 23:15:12 <andythenorth> do vehicles have persistent storage yet? 23:15:23 <andythenorth> they should :P 23:15:45 <andythenorth> hmm 23:15:50 * andythenorth figures out a way to fake it 23:16:09 * andythenorth awards self 7 bits of persistent storage 23:16:24 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: they only have random bits 23:16:31 <andythenorth> how many vehicle IDs do I get? 23:16:37 <andythenorth> is it 255, or 65k? 23:16:49 <Eddi|zuHause> 16k for articulation, 64k otherwise 23:16:54 <andythenorth> 16k is enough 23:17:08 <andythenorth> let's say my set has 1k vehicles (far less in reality) 23:17:17 <andythenorth> @calc 7*15000 23:17:17 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: 105000 23:17:22 <andythenorth> quite a lot of storage 23:17:37 <andythenorth> basically, build lead vehicle, shorten to 1/8, build 7 'storage' vehicles 23:17:41 <andythenorth> ID is significant 23:17:49 <andythenorth> this can only be written to on construction 23:17:53 <Eddi|zuHause> CETS used some 1200-ish IDs at the last count 23:17:58 <andythenorth> this is read only storage :P 23:18:47 <andythenorth> stupid idea? 23:19:03 <Eddi|zuHause> what do you need the "storage" for? 23:19:25 <andythenorth> things like 'what type of truck is this: solo, drawbar trailer(s), fifth-wheel trailer(s)' 23:19:34 <andythenorth> not actually much else 23:19:41 <Eddi|zuHause> why not encode that in the ID? 23:19:44 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has quit [Quit: zzzzzzzzz] 23:19:47 <andythenorth> could also do that 23:19:54 <andythenorth> or have a big lookup table 23:20:01 <andythenorth> or solve issue differently with CPP 23:20:03 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: and you have the vehicle custom flags 23:20:08 <andythenorth> I do? 23:20:31 <andythenorth> this isn't blocking anything, I'm just looking for code elegance 23:20:37 <Eddi|zuHause> which you can read individually, or ORed over the whole consist 23:20:40 <andythenorth> the CPP I'm using is brutally robust 23:20:47 <andythenorth> where are these flags? :P 23:21:08 <Eddi|zuHause> dunno, maybe they exist only for trains 23:21:42 <andythenorth> a prop or a cb? 23:21:50 <Eddi|zuHause> prop 23:21:57 <andythenorth> prop 08? 23:22:25 <andythenorth> not listed for RVs 23:22:29 *** MagisterQuis [~Adium@c-71-206-9-241.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:22:36 <andythenorth> could also set the animation frame 23:22:48 <andythenorth> or even the sound effect (assuming that can be read) 23:23:38 <andythenorth> anyway, the CPP works, and I might go to bed 23:23:41 <andythenorth> good night 23:23:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-2-101-97-155.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:29:05 *** MagisterQuis1 [~Adium@c-71-206-9-241.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:35:11 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab575.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:37:35 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab575.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38:25 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-44-117.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:40:46 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: Sla Mutant Co-Op for Renegade - coming back soon] 23:45:29 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:55:27 *** MJP [~TdlQ@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:44 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd