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00:20:59 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-008-019.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 00:26:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:26:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-227-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:48:46 <welshdragon> can I change the settings for the pathfinder to look 3 signal blocks ahead (instead of one)? 01:03:50 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111221202647]] 01:05:21 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-28-49.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:47 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-28-49.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 01:09:23 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 01:18:29 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 01:22:54 <kais58> will 1.2 (probably) be released before 7th feb by any chance? 01:24:18 <welshdragon> think about this logically 01:24:30 <welshdragon> when do the devs usually do relases? 01:27:21 <welshdragon> ... significant holidays in the year 01:27:44 <kais58> looks like monthly... 01:28:48 <welshdragon> right 01:29:00 <welshdragon> when was 1.2 beta 1 released? 01:29:34 <kais58> xmas eve 01:30:08 <welshdragon> yes, right, so Christmas, now, from that theory, what's the next big public holiday? 01:30:22 <kais58> easter... 01:31:34 <welshdragon> Exactly! 01:31:38 <welshdragon> we have a winner 01:32:05 <kais58> in that case openttd may not have a package in F17 at release 01:32:27 <kais58> not immediatly anyway 01:32:58 <welshdragon> Fedora 17 will use the last available stable (1.1.3), as will *buntu 01:33:24 <kais58> last stable is 1.1.5 is it not? 01:33:50 <welshdragon> yes, sorry, my eyes are bad 01:33:54 <kais58> but, no it wont, as 1.1.3 and 1.1.5 fail to build on gcc-4.7 01:34:56 <welshdragon> then maybe use an older version of gcc? 01:36:41 <welshdragon> and secondly, has a bug been raised on the Bug Tracker? 01:37:07 <welshdragon> (as the devs will be unaware of this issue if it is not reported) 01:38:27 <kais58> not yet, I'm still poking, seeing if trunk worked and it just finished and no, r23810 doesnt build with gcc-4.7, thought it was working, going to file a bug report imminently 01:41:28 <welshdragon> OK, maybe try to find an old version of GCC too 01:41:46 <kais58> umm, think i can do, give me a few mins 01:41:58 <welshdragon> Fedora? 01:42:08 <kais58> yeah? 01:42:57 <welshdragon> http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libgcc 01:43:04 <kais58> though I know it works fine on F16 with gcc 4.6.2 01:43:32 <kais58> also, who deals with the account merging, mine is still broken from then? 01:44:12 <welshdragon> TrueBrain i think (for OpenTTD) 01:44:19 <kais58> yeah, openttd 01:44:30 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-28-49.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:18:31 <kais58> oops 02:18:46 <kais58> maybe trunk does work, not 1.1.3 though 02:22:03 <kais58> the src/ai/api docs were removed? 02:32:00 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> synthon.oftc.net quits: tparker, Eddi|zuHause, Hawson, @orudge, kkb110_, jonty-comp, @Belugas, glevans2, tokai|mdlx, Xaroth, (+23 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 02:32:57 *** Netsplit over, joins: @orudge, Born_Acorn, DDR, kkb110_, Xrufuian, Snail_, namad7, tokai|mdlx, EyeMWing, Biolunar (+23 more) 02:33:33 *** mode/#openttd [+v peter1138] by ChanServ 02:33:33 *** mode/#openttd [+v planetmaker] by ChanServ 02:33:33 *** mode/#openttd [+v Yexo] by ChanServ 02:33:33 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 02:33:33 *** mode/#openttd [+o SmatZ] by ChanServ 02:33:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 02:45:16 <Eddi|zuHause> <welshdragon> can I change the settings for the pathfinder to look 3 signal blocks ahead (instead of one)? <-- "look ahead" in what sense? 02:48:35 <Eddi|zuHause> <kais58> also, who deals with the account merging, mine is still broken from then? <-- afair all unmerged accounts have been deleted recently... so better make a new account 02:55:10 <kais58> still complains at me that I need to merge it 02:55:50 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: tparker, Eddi|zuHause, Xaroth, @Belugas, @orudge, Arafangion, jonty-comp, kkb110_, glevans2, tokai|mdlx, (+23 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 02:56:32 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 02:57:00 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:57:00 *** Netsplit over, joins: @orudge, Born_Acorn, DDR, kkb110_, Xrufuian, Snail_, namad7, tokai|mdlx, Biolunar, Guest24086 (+22 more) 02:57:23 <Eddi|zuHause> what's with the netsplits tonight? 02:57:33 *** mode/#openttd [+v SmatZ] by ChanServ 03:01:52 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:c046:10c0:7dca:10dd] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:06:22 *** Xrufuian [~link@pool-98-119-100-162.lsanca.btas.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: ...] 03:32:08 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:16:31 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 04:44:58 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:45:20 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 05:37:18 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 05:37:58 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has left #openttd [] 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74844.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B73AE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:00:56 <Rubidium> kais58: so F17 is going to be released in February with a GCC that isn't going to be released in April? 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08:02:52 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-104.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:05:36 <peter1138> no 08:21:04 * andythenorth sleeps for an hour then tries again 08:34:42 <andythenorth> but but but 08:35:01 <andythenorth> name/value pairs are about as useful as xml in most cases 08:35:23 <andythenorth> and don't require an xml library to deal with all the nodes and crap 08:36:44 * andythenorth wonders what happens if python loads some text from a file that is structured as a dict 08:36:52 <andythenorth> do I need to call eval() on it or something? 08:36:55 <dihedral> greetings 08:41:47 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you can eval() it 08:42:25 <Eddi|zuHause> or you can import it 08:45:22 <andythenorth> if I import it, do I need to declare it as a class first? 08:45:58 <Eddi|zuHause> no, just it should be an assignment in the file 08:46:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. xxx = {...} 08:46:09 <andythenorth> ho 08:46:12 <andythenorth> this could be fun 08:46:20 <andythenorth> not now, but later 08:46:22 * andythenorth has to work 08:47:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 08:54:21 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 09:08:06 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-182-174.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:10 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:13:13 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:21:18 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:36:59 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-178-000-006-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:44:34 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-178-000-006-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48:23 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:49:16 *** TRG [b6efe0ab@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:49:31 <TRG> Yo? 09:54:54 *** TRG [b6efe0ab@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:05:02 <Eddi|zuHause> no. 10:05:05 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:09:33 <planetmaker> moin 10:15:20 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-002-062.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:32:54 <welshdragon> Eddi|zuHause: i read somewhere that you can tell a train to look x blocks ahead for a reservation, instead of the current 1 block? 10:33:26 <Eddi|zuHause> welshdragon: that is currently not implemented 10:37:02 *** pjpe [ae5b5137@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:38:56 <Elukka> i've always heard they don't look further ahead at all but if there are two equal lines and one of them has a train several signal blocks away, they will consistently pick the empty line 10:43:12 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-28-49.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:48:26 <welshdragon> Eddi|zuHause: then why have I just found Yapf.rail_look_ahead_max_signals 10:48:30 <welshdragon> :P 10:48:31 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48:49 <Eddi|zuHause> welshdragon: that does something different 10:49:17 <Eddi|zuHause> welshdragon: that is for load balancing, not for reserving more than one block 10:50:41 <welshdragon> ah 10:51:15 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: Sla Mutant Co-Op for Renegade - coming back soon] 10:53:17 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-182-174.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 11:02:13 *** DDR [~DDR@142.179.78.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:09:44 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:11:41 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:13:39 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 11:14:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:23:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:31:44 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111221202647]] 11:34:36 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-28-49.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:37:01 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 11:38:20 *** DDR [~chatzilla@142.179.78.88] has quit [] 11:53:43 *** TomyLobo [~foo@p4FC232DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 12:16:18 *** kais58_ is now known as kais58 12:24:09 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:24:23 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 12:26:47 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:41:30 <kais58> anyonw know what trunk rlease 1.2.0 is based off? 12:41:55 <andythenorth> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/ 12:42:05 <andythenorth> probably a tag in there somewhere? 12:43:20 *** TrueBrain [~patric@145.118.72.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:45:45 <kais58> there's the problem, 1.2 is r23767, and r23770 fixed it so it would compile on gcc-4.7 12:50:22 <Yexo> use the precompiled binaries, compile trunk or wait for 1.2.0-beta3 13:07:06 <Rubidium> how can we know a what version a not-yet-released binary is based on? Even then, releases are no trunk versions 13:10:58 *** lollercaust [~paper@93.Red-88-1-166.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 13:13:00 *** Stimrol [~oftc@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:20:11 *** Snor [~Snor@cpc14-brad19-2-0-cust173.barn.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:26:45 *** TrueBrain [~patric@ip82-139-89-237.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 13:49:16 *** Doorslammer [7da86216@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:49:37 *** Doorslammer [7da86216@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [] 13:49:44 *** Doorslammer [7da86216@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:54:26 *** Lakie [~Lakie@host81-141-98-103.wlms-broadband.com] has joined #openttd 14:01:07 <kais58> releases are branced off the trunk at a certain point though arent they? 14:02:32 <planetmaker> yes, so? 14:03:17 <kais58> I was saying which version of trunk 1.2 was taken off from 14:04:16 <planetmaker> 1.2 is not yet branched 14:04:40 <kais58> rather what version of trunk 1.2beta2 is 14:05:00 <planetmaker> well. check the svn. I don't know by heart 14:05:36 <planetmaker> and... why does it matter? 14:05:44 <planetmaker> I've the feeling all this is not your real question 14:05:51 <kais58> r23767, I went and checked and r23770 was when the gcc-4.7 fix was added, hence it doesnt work but trunk does, so it doesnt matter 14:06:35 <planetmaker> yes, so what. Then a release does not compile with gcc 4.7. 14:06:47 <planetmaker> happens 14:07:02 *** brendan10211 [~brendan10@cpe-069-134-169-113.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:07:37 <planetmaker> especially for development versions of compilers 14:08:13 <planetmaker> thus if you expect it to work, you should use released gcc versions 14:09:51 <kais58> I wasnt expecting it to work, and if I were building it to actually use I would, and have 14:12:47 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:28 <Belugas> hello 14:16:39 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:19:35 <brendan10211> yo 14:34:23 *** Doorslammer [7da86216@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:39:54 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-124-243.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:45:58 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-108-220.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:24:44 <Elukka> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd_yMQEvxLk 15:27:09 <planetmaker> random link? 15:29:35 <brendan10211> https://twitter.com/#!/RealTimeWWII 15:29:40 <brendan10211> a wild link appears 15:37:34 <Elukka> links everywhere! 15:37:46 <Elukka> random link of a pretty damn well filmed video of a br 52 15:38:04 <brendan10211> link used trojan! 15:38:17 <brendan10211> your computer is now poisoned 15:44:33 *** fjb|tab [~frank@pD9EA6D76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:46:52 *** APTX_ [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46:54 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 15:52:12 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 15:59:15 <Ammler> https://secure.openttd.org/security/en/CVE-2012-0049 sounds very different as the entry in the changelog, the changelog entry sounds like a different change 16:00:23 <brendan10211> a somewhat-more-explained link appears! 16:00:34 <Ammler> "make default timeouts for certain states lower and configurable" sounds very harmless :-) 16:00:57 <planetmaker> yes 16:01:15 <Ammler> but if you compare the revisions, it seems to be the same 16:01:20 <planetmaker> It is the same 16:01:48 <Yexo> Ammler: infinite -> 15seconds is lower :p 16:01:54 <Ammler> is that a trick to hide it? 16:02:09 <michi_cc> Giving clear explanations how to misuse a security hole before a a fixed version is released isn't much of a bright idea. 16:02:18 <Ammler> ok 16:02:43 <planetmaker> what michi says 16:03:10 <Ammler> I will use the changeset text then 16:03:12 <planetmaker> and it's not like the commit message is a lie in any respect. It even is more accurate 16:05:04 *** lollercaust [~paper@93.Red-88-1-166.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:05:20 <Rubidium> it's a technique to not put extra attention on it, and to prevent us from having to rush the release because it's being actively exploited in the real world 16:05:57 <Rubidium> that's what you get for such an open development model 16:06:48 <Ammler> if someone cares, he can read the CVE 16:07:09 <Yexo> which is only made public after the release 16:11:33 <Ammler> I assume, the many compile warnings are known... 16:11:59 <peter1138> never assume 16:12:21 <peter1138> i for one don't get any 16:12:23 <planetmaker> gcc 4.0.x has some. yes 16:12:47 <peter1138> even debian's on 4.4... 16:12:49 <planetmaker> but those are the only ones know afaik 16:12:58 <planetmaker> hm, 4.4? 16:13:33 <peter1138> 4.4.5 here 16:15:30 <Yexo> no warnings with 4.4.6 for me 16:17:16 <Rubidium> Ammler: which warnings? 16:21:35 <Ammler> https://build.opensuse.org/package/rawlog?arch=i586&package=openttd&project=home%3Aopenttdcoop&repository=openSUSE_Factory 16:21:59 <Ammler> gcc46-4.6.2 16:22:37 <Ammler> but well, it is 1.1.5 16:23:15 <Rubidium> Ammler: how often have you asked us about those warnings? 16:24:32 <Ammler> well, seems to be more as with gcc45 16:25:08 <Rubidium> very unlikely 16:25:54 <Rubidium> as it's the same warning over and over again, and I doubt gcc4.5 does need (significantly) less instances than gcc4.6 16:27:37 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@ip-86-49-59-25.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:29:57 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:30:04 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e06d2be.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:35:48 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-28-49.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:41:04 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 16:48:51 *** TWerkhoven[l] 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tieske100 in the Mac 10.3.9 thread? 19:46:42 <andythenorth> the request started rudely and continues that way 19:46:45 <andythenorth> mac users annoy me 19:49:45 <valhallasw> andythenorth: he says pleaze. 19:50:15 <andythenorth> he says PLEAZE 19:50:20 <andythenorth> which is quite different :) 19:52:26 <valhallasw> I can imagine the annoyance of buying a mac and seeing your favorite game does not run, actually. 19:53:11 <__ln__> this is how you write a polite bug report: http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/5852 19:53:54 <valhallasw> andythenorth: and it's clearly not a native speaker. Combine that with someone who just wants to play the game - I can understand the post 19:54:06 <valhallasw> and I think most people in the thread react very profesionally 19:54:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-180-201.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:54:35 <valhallasw> __ln__: :D 20:02:14 <andythenorth> also 20:02:31 <andythenorth> to a large extent, lego fans that post online are idiots 20:02:45 <andythenorth> this doesn't mean all lego fans are idiots 20:03:02 <Wolf01> I agree 20:03:10 <andythenorth> but it correlates idiocy, lego, and a disposition to post online 20:04:01 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-77-203.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 20:04:29 <planetmaker> 20:52 valhallasw: I can imagine the annoyance of buying a mac and seeing your favorite game does not run, actually. <-- if he has osx 10.3.9, he bought that machine like 5 years ago or longer ago 20:05:07 <andythenorth> he is moaning about having to wait 20:05:12 <andythenorth> but his OS is ancient 20:05:29 <andythenorth> we should jump for him, but he hasn't upgraded his OS? 20:05:55 <__ln__> it costs money, you jumping does not 20:07:17 <Rubidium> well, we don't jump for people that did update their OSX, so I guess it's only logical to jump for him 20:08:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B96E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:09:24 <valhallasw> planetmaker: oh. good point 20:09:55 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-28-49.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:09:58 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 20:09:58 *** George is now known as Guest24207 20:09:58 *** George|2 is now known as George 20:10:12 <valhallasw> andythenorth: partially. on re-reading: apparently the download page notes osx 10.3 is supported 20:11:01 <valhallasw> apparently it's not, which means you have the choice: either fix the code or remove the note 10.3 is supported 20:12:23 <Rubidium> just recompile libicu with the right compile flags... 20:15:06 <andythenorth> are any mac versions supported? 20:15:08 <andythenorth> I thought not? 20:15:47 *** Guest24207 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:59 *** fluffy [4f6126b3@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:21:50 <fluffy> can anybody recommend a good way of spacing vehicles? 20:23:22 *** heffer [~felix@hyperion.fetzig.org] has joined #openttd 20:24:24 <Belugas> 2 tiles between signals? 20:27:52 <heffer> any idea why ottd 1.15 fails to build on gcc 4.7? http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3707017&name=build.log 20:29:35 <Terkhen> @commit 23770 20:29:36 <DorpsGek> Terkhen: Commit by smatz :: r23770 /trunk/src/script/api (script_station.hpp script_waypoint.hpp) (2012-01-07 18:37:22 UTC) 20:29:37 <DorpsGek> Terkhen: -Fix: compilation with GCC 4.7 20:29:41 <Terkhen> ^ maybe it is missing that fix? 20:30:12 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:30:19 <heffer> thanks for the pointer :D 20:30:34 <Terkhen> yw :) 20:33:22 <Rubidium> heffer: the whole 1.1 series fails on gcc-trunk 20:34:01 <heffer> Rubidium: then i better just jump to 1.2 on what is to become fedora 17? 20:34:20 <heffer> beta2 would be okay? or do i need trunk? 20:34:21 <Rubidium> I wouldn't 20:34:44 <heffer> well F17 will not be released until about may 20:35:12 <heffer> until then it is considered to be a development version, so people wouldn't bother running a beta 20:35:38 <heffer> the stable F16 and 15 build fine as they're still on gcc 4.6 20:35:45 <Rubidium> just backport some that trunk patch 20:35:48 *** fluffy [4f6126b3@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:36:42 <heffer> was just about to do that :) but from your statement i figured it might be much more than this one change :D 20:37:04 <Rubidium> no clue 20:37:30 <Rubidium> but gcc 4.7 has become stricter in many places 20:37:50 <heffer> i'll give it a shot 20:38:57 <Rubidium> even then, they release fedora with an unreleased version of gcc? 20:39:36 <SmatZ> heffer: configure with CXXFLAGS="-fpermissive", it could help as well 20:41:21 <heffer> Rubidium: well sometimes they even include unreleased versions of glibc as well :D 20:41:43 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-178-000-006-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:57 <heffer> and then you have Linus Torvalds raging on out bugzilla because it killed sound playback for the proprietary flash plugin 20:42:06 <heffer> s/out/our/ 20:42:25 <SmatZ> @commit 23196 20:42:25 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Commit by smatz :: r23196 trunk/src/currency.cpp (2011-11-12 10:21:00 UTC) 20:42:26 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: -Fix: GCC 4.7 compilation 20:42:30 <SmatZ> @commit 23191 20:42:30 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Commit by rubidium :: r23191 trunk/src/table/palettes.h (2011-11-11 19:47:28 UTC) 20:42:31 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: -Fix: GCC 4.7 compilation warnings related to narrowing in palettes 20:42:33 <SmatZ> as well... 20:42:49 <SmatZ> @commit 22719 20:42:49 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Commit by smatz :: r22719 trunk/src/fileio.cpp (2011-08-04 20:04:58 UTC) 20:42:50 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: -Fix: compilation with gcc 4.7 20:42:54 <SmatZ> and maybe other fixes 20:43:33 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-178-000-006-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:30 <SmatZ> heffer: if you use gcc trunk, you have to use openttd trunk as well ;) 20:45:58 <Ammler> hehe, there is a distro even more bleeding as suse 20:50:02 <SmatZ> :) 20:50:07 <SmatZ> good evening Ammler :) 20:51:50 <Ammler> sali SmatZ :-) 20:53:48 <heffer> Ammler: i really appreciate your spec files for the openttd :) i always shamelessly copy your Summary and %description when adapting for fedora 20:56:34 <Ammler> heffer, you are very welcome :-) 20:58:03 <heffer> you save me a lot of work :D 21:02:35 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 21:05:09 *** brendan10211 [~brendan10@cpe-069-134-169-113.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish...] 21:07:03 *** 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21:44:46 <kais58> yeah, forgot to mention that on that bug report :) 21:45:45 <kais58> note that 1.1.5 and 1.2.0beta2 fail at different points and trunk works on gcc-4.7 :) 21:46:58 <Rubidium> pff... just use a slighty older version of gcc-4.7 ;) 21:48:02 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p57941E03.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04:18 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-81-107-138-246.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:04:51 <Terkhen> good night 22:05:08 <planetmaker> g'night Terkhen 22:08:19 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:22:38 *** vodka [~paper@154.Red-83-43-125.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:24:40 *** DDR [~DDR@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 22:27:35 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:27:35 *** Mark is now known as Guest24222 22:27:35 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 22:29:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo 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