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Set to medium running cost a 2-8-0 for me is 70k/year, whereas a dutch NS6300 is only 12k/year. I initially assumed the dutch one was just really cheap, but with the 2-8-0 I can't even hit the running cost, nevermind all the other costs 02:37:28 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:38:50 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 02:46:53 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:48:38 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 02:52:46 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.11.251] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:53:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.11.251] has joined #openttd 02:56:41 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:01:17 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 03:09:19 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:11:30 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 03:19:33 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:21:37 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 03:28:40 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.11.251] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:29:21 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.11.251] has joined #openttd 03:29:43 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:31:18 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 03:39:21 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:41:21 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@ip-141-138-106-77.eidsiva.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:41:47 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-67-116.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Stimrol_: consult the docs to the 3rd-party software you use, e.g. autopilot you find on DevZone 13:56:20 <Stimrol> ok, I will check that 13:56:54 <Ammler> but autopilot is very old, there might be more modern apps, which use the special admin interface 13:58:23 <Stimrol> you mean searching the bananas server or in development section? 13:58:56 <planetmaker> no, those things are not on bananas. 13:59:02 <Ammler> as said 3rd-party, you find such scripts either on tt-forums or devzone (dev.openttdcoop.org) 14:00:07 <Stimrol> ok thanks for this :) 14:04:09 <Stimrol> btw. this link is not working http://www.codecubes.org/wiki/Avignon 14:06:50 <Stimrol> I found it in the autopilot wiki 14:07:27 <planetmaker> yes, that page expired. You might ask dihedral whether it still exists somewhere 14:12:42 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:13:49 <Stimrol> I will just stick to the orginal, use console :) but thanks anyway, thought you could maybe use alias or something 14:16:53 <Ammler> what is "original"? 14:18:20 <Ammler> ah console, ok :-) 14:19:02 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:02 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f87f:f439:b9ef:b3ef] has joined #openttd 14:19:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:34:09 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:16 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-104.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:41:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:43:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 14:45:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:55:00 <andythenorth> hmm 14:55:11 <andythenorth> have the parameters disappeared from FIRS 0.7.0? 14:56:01 <Belugas> hellp 14:56:04 <Belugas> mmh 14:56:06 <Belugas> hello 14:56:07 <Belugas> :) 14:58:58 <planetmaker> andythenorth, I doubt they disappeared. People just don't know the parameter GUI nor care to look 14:59:13 <planetmaker> hi Belugas 14:59:24 * andythenorth feels like being rude about users 15:02:02 <Belugas> sir maker :) 15:02:24 <Belugas> andythenorth, don't fear to kick the butt when it's needed. stupidity is neevr welcome 15:02:49 * andythenorth wonders if 'set parameters' is the most obvious label for a button 15:02:58 <andythenorth> 'wtf parameters?' is a fair reaction from a user 15:03:21 <andythenorth> but that speaks to an unfinished GUI rebuild 15:03:25 * andythenorth prods planetmaker 15:03:33 <andythenorth> another fine project we started :) 15:27:35 *** zombi- [~zombi@cpc8-donc9-2-0-cust52.barn.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:27:48 <zombi-> Hey 15:28:29 <zombi-> Wondering if anyone might want to come hang out with me and a friend on a server.. help us understand the game.. we want to play it but finding it difficult really understand what the point is 15:28:35 <zombi-> Like growing towns etc 15:28:55 <KenjiE20> there's a point to all this? 15:28:59 <zombi-> And we find some of the wiki a bit overwhelming 15:29:11 <zombi-> Dunno :P 15:32:27 <Ammler> join another server 15:34:26 <zombi-> we're just playing on a server together right now 15:34:30 <zombi-> dont wanna screw up anyones game 15:36:01 <andythenorth> zombi-: there are goals to win 15:36:09 <andythenorth> but after that it's a big sandbox 15:36:17 <andythenorth> surprisingly addictive sandbox 15:36:44 <zombi-> are there? 15:36:49 <zombi-> i thought it was just a sandbox :) 15:37:06 <andythenorth> the original game has a set of goals 15:37:14 <andythenorth> new goals are being developed with scripts 15:37:17 <andythenorth> but they're not done yet 15:37:21 <zombi-> i think part of the problem is we never played the original 15:37:35 <zombi-> parts of the wiki are quite technical 15:38:08 <zombi-> one thing we were stuck on is how to make cities grow 15:38:11 <zombi-> cities/towns 15:38:56 <andythenorth> zombi-: goals are in the company league table http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_interface#Company_and_industry_information 15:38:57 <andythenorth> iirc 15:39:25 <zombi-> right now we're justt playing on the same company 15:39:36 <zombi-> dunno if thats how we're supposed to do it 15:39:38 <andythenorth> you can still play collaboratively to win - if you care 15:39:45 <andythenorth> the goals are interesting the first time round 15:39:53 <andythenorth> once you understand the game, they're pretty easy 15:40:11 *** dotwaffle [~dotwaffle@on6.co.uk] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6] 15:40:20 <zombi-> yeah i bet 15:40:32 <andythenorth> zombi-: town growth http://wiki.openttd.org/Towns#Town_Growth 15:40:32 <zombi-> but its understanding it in the first place 15:40:39 <andythenorth> :) 15:40:57 <zombi-> yeah ive read this 15:53:10 <planetmaker> zombi-, just service 5 stations within the town's influence well 15:53:32 <planetmaker> In arctic / tropical make sure to supply (also) the needed cargo like food and / or water 15:53:52 <planetmaker> all bets are off, if you play on a server with a goal script which modifies town growth 15:53:57 <planetmaker> then many things are possible 15:54:15 <planetmaker> and... one can also find a setting in the adv. settings which regulates speed of town growth 15:57:05 <zombi-> oh 15:58:53 <zombi-> meh 15:58:56 <zombi-> now my friend cant connect 15:59:01 <zombi-> keeps saying connection lost 16:01:05 *** zomb-- [zombi@cpc8-donc9-2-0-cust52.barn.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:01:05 *** zombi- [~zombi@cpc8-donc9-2-0-cust52.barn.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:03:05 <planetmaker> connection lost :-P 16:03:44 <zomb--> nah i rebooted my router 16:03:50 <zomb--> but the problem seems to be the map size 16:03:59 <zomb--> i set it to 1024x1024 and she cant connect 16:04:07 <zomb--> but i set it back to 256x256 and its fine.. hmm 16:04:16 <planetmaker> increase the timeout settings 16:04:24 <zomb--> oh 16:04:26 <zomb--> wheres that? 16:04:34 <planetmaker> in the openttd.cfg 16:05:18 <zomb--> its not in the program dir 16:05:45 <planetmaker> yup, it's in the OpenTTD config dir 16:05:56 <planetmaker> ~/.openttd or whereever. Depends on your OS 16:06:06 <zomb--> ok 16:06:35 <zomb--> network_chat_timeout = 20 16:06:40 <zomb--> console_backlog_timeout = 100 16:07:08 <zomb--> max_join_time maybe 16:07:09 <planetmaker> rather like max_join_time 16:07:16 <zomb--> its 500 right now 16:07:22 <zomb--> i guess thats 5 seconds 16:07:35 <planetmaker> @calc 500/74 16:07:35 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 6.75675675676 16:07:37 <zomb--> only need to change it on the server? 16:07:49 *** Twofish [~Twofish@77-95-76-210.bb.cust.hknett.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:07:55 <planetmaker> yes, only server needs to change it 16:08:16 <planetmaker> @calc 0.03 * 500 16:08:16 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 15 16:08:20 <planetmaker> hm, 15 seconds 16:12:23 <zomb--> that was the problem, thanks 16:15:40 <planetmaker> great. You're welcome 16:20:49 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 16:28:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.6.107] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:31:41 <zomb--> some of the text is too small to see 16:49:05 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@178-33-38-239.ovh.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:49:23 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@178-33-38-239.ovh.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:26 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 16:56:36 *** dREALar|lolopentttd [j4mie@87-198-20-136.ptr.magnet.ie] has joined #openttd 16:57:02 <dREALar|lolopentttd> Hi guys, I'm having a hard time installing 1.1.5 on ubuntu 11.04, is there someone that's willing to walk me through it? 16:57:11 *** dREALar|lolopentttd is now known as dREALar 17:03:18 <TrueBrain> apt-get install openttd 17:03:20 <TrueBrain> ? :) 17:03:35 <blathijs> 1.1.5 is not in Debian/Ubuntu yet 17:03:45 <blathijs> dREALar: Did you download the .deb from download.openttd.org? 17:03:49 <TrueBrain> meh; I keep forgetting distros suck for that :) 17:04:02 <TrueBrain> dpkg -i <file.deb> then? :) 17:04:05 <zomb--> how can you speed up trains? 17:04:17 <blathijs> TrueBrain: In this case, it's me who's failing ;-p 17:04:36 <TrueBrain> blathijs: it was not meant as a blame to anyone :) Distros only are a 3rd party, who are not always in sync :) 17:04:54 <blathijs> nearly finished the packaging though, with a handful build improvements as well 17:05:01 <TrueBrain> \o/ 17:05:19 <blathijs> dREALar: Hmm, seems download.openttd.org only has versions for 11.10 and 10.04. Did you try both of them? 17:06:07 <dREALar> yeah :( 17:06:24 <michi_cc> Use the linux generic binaries, Ubunutu likes to update ICU each and every release breaking old packages. 17:07:42 <TrueBrain> you make it sound like it is a bad thing they want to keep up with recent releases of ICU :) 17:08:10 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:12:03 <dREALar> michi_cc can i /query you, i have some questions 17:12:32 <michi_cc> I don't use Ubuntu, so it is unlikely I can answer. 17:13:07 <dREALar> Ah ok, I'm just pretty inexperienced in it myself, have no experience doing anything more than a simple minecraft server on it :( 17:15:04 <TrueBrain> so ask your questions here, plenty of people who might know the answer :) 17:15:39 <dREALar> I'm just trying to figure out how to install 1.1.5 on ubuntu 11.04, if it's at all possible. 17:15:56 <dREALar> agh 17:19:23 <blathijs> dREALar: Did you try the 11.10 and 10.04 versions? 17:23:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:29:10 *** dREALar [j4mie@87-198-20-136.ptr.magnet.ie] has quit [] 17:29:21 <TrueBrain> how rude 17:31:27 <Rubidium> pff... ubuntu... either stay current, or stay with "stable". Else it's going to fail ;) 17:31:44 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.237] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 17:36:39 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:41:06 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.237] has joined #openttd 17:41:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 17:46:18 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:48:31 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:50:22 *** lollercaust [~paper@85.Red-83-41-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 18:04:04 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:06:15 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0f234c.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 18:13:10 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009787.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:28 <frosch123> ah, that's how the world ends! 18:26:16 <frosch123> russia drilled to an antarctic sea, looking for "new species" 18:27:19 <MNIM> blathijs: I don't know about others, but I haven't been able to install OTTD on my 10.10 since 1.1.4 due to a plethora of supposedly missing dependencies. 18:27:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 18:27:38 <MNIM> however, using generic binaries works flawlessly. 18:29:43 <Rubidium> MNIM: you should be using a Ubuntu LTS or the newest Ubuntu ;) 18:30:10 <MNIM> ehhhhhh, hell no? buntu went to *censored* since 10. 18:36:20 *** perk11 [~perk11@188.32.29.223] has joined #openttd 18:40:20 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-67-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:44:13 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 18:48:38 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-172-205.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 18:48:38 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@059-057-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53:04 *** Elu [Elukka@78-27-90-104.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:53:41 *** lollercaust [~paper@85.Red-83-41-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:55:25 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has joined #openttd 18:55:27 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@059-057-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 18:56:34 <__ln__> http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/401166_3121428155432_1256411501_33350038_1835633278_n.jpg 18:58:33 <SpComb> bring your own chalk and graphing calculator 18:58:40 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-104.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:43 * SpComb wonders what projection it is 19:03:30 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@161.184.227.133] has joined #openttd 19:05:25 <TWerkhoven> surely theres a fork of ubuntu somewhere that doesnt have *censored*? 19:05:27 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.97.170] has joined #openttd 19:07:03 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:07:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 19:07:12 <Alberth> ih ih 19:07:46 <TWerkhoven> olleh 19:09:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:09:12 <SpComb> TWerkhoven: mint? 19:09:20 <SpComb> as in Mint Linux 19:10:08 <Rubidium> TWerkhoven: not quite a fork, but Debian? 19:10:55 <TWerkhoven> my point exactly 19:11:39 <SpComb> my Ubuntu 9.10 laptop still works kinda fine :) 19:13:03 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:27:09 *** perk11 [~perk11@188.32.29.223] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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21:05:48 <valhalla1w> build trees 21:05:53 <valhalla1w> or bribe them 21:09:00 <Alberth> wait 21:09:13 <Alberth> read the game mechanics page I linked :) 21:09:54 <Alberth> reload an old save game :p 21:37:58 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:38:47 *** lollercaust [~paper@85.Red-83-41-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 21:41:10 <Elu> just plant lots of trees 21:41:14 *** Elu is now known as Elukka 21:44:32 <andythenorth> wtf 21:44:39 <andythenorth> this wifi works today 21:44:50 * andythenorth can share other dull meta news if required 21:45:18 <SpComb> that's what IRC is for 21:46:26 <andythenorth> also 21:46:27 <andythenorth> for this 21:46:30 <andythenorth> http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/7/73/Trollface.png/500px-Trollface.png 21:46:34 <andythenorth> somewhat makes sense 21:46:44 <andythenorth> kind of 21:47:03 <andythenorth> mostly irc is for meta-announcements that andythenorth is coding something 21:47:10 <andythenorth> or stuck with coding something 21:47:15 <andythenorth> or bored of coding something 21:47:37 <Terkhen> good night 21:48:26 <andythenorth> or announcing good night :) 21:48:29 <andythenorth> bye Terkhen 21:50:19 <frosch123> hmm, if i use refittable next to refitability, then one of them looks wrong 21:50:29 <andythenorth> refittable refittability 21:50:37 <andythenorth> tautology? 21:50:39 <andythenorth> :P 21:50:45 * andythenorth ponders 21:51:48 <andythenorth> what do I call a property that newgrf author sets explicitly? author defined? manually-set? 21:52:25 <frosch123> what properties does a newgrf author not set explicitly? 21:52:39 <andythenorth> ones where they write an algorithm instead :P 21:53:14 <frosch123> can you give an example? :) 21:53:16 <andythenorth> truck weight could be: length * (constant related to truck type) 21:53:26 <andythenorth> which means I don't have to set weight :) 21:53:35 * andythenorth is lazy 21:53:59 <frosch123> ah, so you mean basic and derived properties? :) 21:54:06 <andythenorth> exactly 21:54:06 <Rubidium> formulaed? ;) 21:54:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 21:57:21 <andythenorth> when do I stop doing 'if type == foo: stuff' and start subclassing trucks for 'foo', 'bar', 'ham', 'eggs' etc? 21:57:36 <andythenorth> I've never really written proper oo stuff 21:58:36 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:05:37 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:01 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:10:11 *** cmircea [~cmircea@86.124.221.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:00 *** perk11 [~perk11@188.32.29.223] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 22:16:47 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:14 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-67-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:21:30 *** murr5y is now known as murr4y 22:26:29 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-23-41-5.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:26:57 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 22:48:37 <Wolf01> 'night 22:48:44 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host101-141-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:48:48 <frosch123> compilers should enforce a fixed coding style, and vcs should enforce a fixed commit style :s 22:51:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r23912 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix: When testing whether a engine shall only carry the default cargo, check ctt_include_mask for being empty before applying cargo translation. 22:54:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r23913 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (r23912): Silly typo in comment. 22:54:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A42B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:47 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:00:55 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:15 *** MJP [~TdlQ@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:03:53 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 23:05:41 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:08:50 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.97.170] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:11:08 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: ttw.sla-company.net] 23:12:01 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has joined #openttd 23:15:55 <frosch123> i assume there is no v7 NewGRF which uses cargobits without cargo translation table :) 23:17:02 *** JVassie [~James@2.30.129.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:03 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:04 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has joined #openttd 23:22:53 <Hirundo> Perhaps MB has an unreleased one ;-) 23:23:18 <frosch123> GetCargoTranslation is an amazing function. it was fixed at least 3 times, and is still wrong 23:23:37 <frosch123> and yet noone ever added documentation about the parameters passed :p 23:23:51 *** APTX_ [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 23:24:05 <frosch123> fs#2157 is said to have such a GRF though 23:24:46 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:26:58 <Hirundo> fs2157 sounds ancient 23:27:40 <frosch123> then i am old :p 23:27:53 <frosch123> as i was already dev in july 2008 :p 23:28:53 <frosch123> ah, the grf in fs#2157 defines cargobit = cargoslot for all its cargos 23:29:07 <frosch123> so it still works even if ottd confuses them :p 23:30:12 <frosch123> weird set, it defines 5 cargos and disables everything else 23:32:13 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-104.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:34:52 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:34:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r23914 /trunk/src/newgrf_cargo.cpp: -Fix (r11252, r13855): Don't test validity of cargobits using a mask of cargoslots. 23:36:34 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@ip-107-139-106-77.eidsiva.net] has joined #openttd 23:36:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r23915 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Codechange: Translate refitmask directly after reading it from the GRF. 23:42:52 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-35-156-106-77.eidsiva.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:44:17 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:48:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r23916 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: 23:48:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix (r23145): When determining the first refittable cargotype according to CTT 23:48:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: order, do not rely on the GRF assigning the refit_mask property. Also check for 23:48:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: GRFs setting the default_cargo or refittable-cargo-classes or -types properties. 23:48:15 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48:17 <frosch123> Hirundo: should make you happy :) 23:48:19 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has joined #openttd 23:49:38 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-23-41-5.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 11.0/20120201153158]] 23:49:41 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-029-178.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 23:50:08 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:50:09 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has joined #openttd 23:52:44 <Hirundo> awesome 23:54:52 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54:53 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has joined #openttd