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01:51:03  <ffx> hi, i just built a lot of trains, cars and ships and want to try airplanes, but i can't figure out where i can build them. if i build an airport then i don't see an option to build anything there. it looks just like a station.
01:51:26  <ffx> i am running the ubuntu version btw. that is 1.0.4
01:51:39  <glx> click on the hangar tile of the airport
01:52:21  <ffx> oh thx
01:52:32  <ffx> i thought that was all the same
01:52:39  <ffx> as i had to build it in one
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01:57:27  <ffx> all right next issue: i can't make my new airplanes move. it seems the way i do that with trains or cars doesn't work.
01:57:42  <ffx> i can't add a point to their route
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02:02:57  <glx> it's exactly like other vehicles
02:04:43  <ffx> hm
02:05:07  <ffx> is there a special point on the airport where i need to click so that it can be used as a point in the route?
02:05:40  <glx> any tile is ok
02:06:11  <ffx> hm
02:06:11  <ffx> suprisingly it works now ...
02:06:11  <glx> the hangar tile is like a depot for other vehicles
02:06:25  <ffx> i may have been in pause mode last time :(
02:06:33  <ffx> thx for the help!
02:08:57  <ffx> oh i got another one ^^. is there a way to automatically replace old vehicles? my current way to do that is to copy the old one, start the copy, sell the old one.
02:09:40  <glx> same model or different model ?
02:10:00  <glx> hmm same model it seems
02:10:40  <glx> look for autorenew on the wiki
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05:34:51  <Dwarden> i'm looking on the new SimCity video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vS0qURl_JJY it's neat seems like combined OpenTTD and Simcity ;)
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07:15:14  <Rhamphoryncus> oopsie.  Build a logic train as the second head of my maglev :P
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07:16:25  <atomicthumbs> I'm trying to connect to a server, and it's downloading 4.99mb of the data from it, then giving me a network-game connection lost message
07:16:43  <atomicthumbs> I'm on a wired connection, running  1.2.0-RC3, and tried x32 and x64 both
07:17:02  <atomicthumbs> and the server admin has pause on join turned on so I can't keep trying this :(
07:17:06  <atomicthumbs> how do I fix this
07:18:08  <Rhamphoryncus> I've heard of the issue a lot but I have no solution for you
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07:25:07  <Zuu> You could take a look at the bug tracker to see if this bug has been reported or not. bugs.openttd.org
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07:25:44  <Zuu> There is also known-bugs.txt and multiplayer.txt with some help in your installation.
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07:45:32  <moopf> hi there
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07:46:06  <moopf> is it possible to deactivate disasters via console command?
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07:49:22  <Zuu> Probably if you figure out the setting name. Take a look in your openttd.cfg to find the name of all settings.
07:49:35  <Zuu> There is a command "set" to change the value of settings.
07:50:32  <Zuu> You will of course also need to figure out which values the setting can have. Eg. if it is a simple boolean setting or if it can have more than two stats.
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08:01:31  <moopf> rcon *PW* set dificulty.disasters 0      <- doesnt work
08:02:04  <moopf> of course difficulty.disasters :D
08:05:39  <Eddi|zuHause> need ""
08:05:45  <moopf> ?
08:05:55  <Zuu> rcon *PW* "set ... "
08:05:56  <Eddi|zuHause> rcon pw "cmd"
08:06:55  <moopf> THX :)
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08:08:29  <moopf> no i can die happy :)
08:08:32  <moopf> cya
08:08:36  <moopf> :P
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08:12:10  <ffpp> the [shift] key was assigned to fast forward before, wasn't it ?
08:13:29  <Zuu> Only in debug builds
08:13:58  <Zuu> In debug builds you can use shift in addition to tab for fast forward.
08:14:06  <Zuu> In release builds, its only tab.
08:14:23  <Zuu> Although you can possible change the key in your hotkeys.cfg.
08:14:30  <ffpp> ah thank you, that clarifies something
08:15:21  <ffpp> I was wondering why some command wasn't working and later realized that with shift pressed the docommandp function uses this as estimate_cost hint
08:15:42  <ffpp> i just wanted to fast forward :)
08:16:36  <Nat_aS> there should be an option to limit fast forward on computers with powerfull CPUs
08:17:02  <SpComb> Nat_aS: it's called "build more trains"
08:17:13  <Nat_aS> my netbook can fast forward safely, but fast forwarding on my gaming latptop ruins the game because everything goes too fast
08:17:15  <Nat_aS> :P
08:17:31  <Nat_aS> just an option to limit the max speed
08:17:46  <ffpp> hm, I don't have that problem on my desktop pc
08:18:05  <Nat_aS> 0 is no cap, 1 is disable fast forward (max speed is 1x normal), and any value higher than 1 is the max speed ( multiplied by normal) possible..
08:18:37  <ffpp> what's your gaming cpu ?
08:18:42  <Nat_aS> if your CPU can't actualy go that fast it wont do anything, but this will keep that feature usefull even in the future.
08:18:59  <Nat_aS> Uhh, let me check, Core I7
08:19:35  <Nat_aS> it's not THAT bad, but it still makes the game go so fast that it spoils the experience some if you leave it on.
08:19:36  <Zuu> Personally I like that fastforward now goes this fast for testing AIs. :-)
08:19:42  <Nat_aS> lol
08:19:57  <Nat_aS> yes well that's why there should always be an option to remove the limiter.
08:20:28  <ffpp> put it on the suggestion forum :)
08:20:28  <Nat_aS> for comparison my netbook is a T91mt with an Atom I think.
08:20:38  <Nat_aS> one of the earler model ones too, it's really whimpy
08:20:43  <Nat_aS> even for a netbook.
08:20:49  <Nat_aS> I will later
08:20:51  <Nat_aS> anyways NIGHT
08:21:08  <ffpp> my e8300 (dore2duo) doesn't feel too fast for the game :/
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08:45:18  <peter1138> planetmaker, is tat our official 'solution' to the tile edge problem?
08:45:29  <dihedral> greetings
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10:57:40  <welshdragon> tumblew        e                        e                    d
10:58:29  <xiong> Has anyone ever seen swissfan91 in here? Come here regularly?
11:00:58  <Sacro> @seen swissfan91
11:00:58  <DorpsGek> Sacro: swissfan91 was last seen in #openttd 3 days, 10 hours, 37 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <swissfan91> evening all
11:01:02  <Sacro> xiong: ^
11:02:27  <xiong> Um, thanks; but that's not what I meant. I meant, Has anyone seen him around here personally? Know anything about him? Regular around here or just passing through?
11:03:15  <xiong> We made a specific date to go over a topic incidental to OpenTTD and my net went sour.
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11:30:49  <planetmaker> write him a forum mail, xiong
11:31:05  <planetmaker> moin also everyone
11:40:10  <Eddi|zuHause> (that's really what he was told the last time)
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13:24:41  <Belugas> hello
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14:23:52  <Eddi|zuHause> i have a feeling the 32px-depot flag is not respected anymore...
14:24:02  <Eddi|zuHause> causing (some) of my offset errors
14:25:03  <planetmaker> we have 32bpp. what do you need 32px? :-P
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15:23:28  <ffpp> hi, I used the generate script and it re-created a bunch of vc projects, which one should I put as upload ?
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15:24:57  <Eddi|zuHause> each vc project is for a different vc version
15:25:11  <Eddi|zuHause> just put all of them in your patch
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15:26:32  <ffpp> so the openttd_* and lang_* and settings_* ones, each for each version totalling in 12
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15:27:12  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, all of them, and the sln files
15:27:21  <ffpp> alright
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15:38:13  <andythenorth> afternnon
15:38:23  <andythenorth> afternonn even
15:38:30  <andythenorth> seigneur bird?
15:38:58  <andythenorth> non :P
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15:41:19  <Scuddles> pruple has been pooping on his enternet for the entire day, true story
15:41:30  <Scuddles> and he uses chatzilla, har har
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15:45:42  <andythenorth> his chatzilla has chatgone
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15:49:31  <Scuddles> pikka thinks a futuristic fuel cell powered 4-2-2 with tilt suspension is a bad idea
15:50:29  <andythenorth> dunno why
15:51:06  * Sacro sciddles Scuddles
15:51:11  <Scuddles> no
15:53:03  <Sacro> :(
15:53:09  * Sacro shuts down singapore1
15:54:40  <Scuddles> git oot
15:55:57  <Scuddles> Pruplethingz: VOOTOOHOONDROOD
15:55:57  <Scuddles> Pruplethingz: more like DEEATEHOONDROOD
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15:57:25  <Scuddles> that sure did it
16:02:27  <telanus1> Is this error message normal or not. http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1572/clipboard01mo.jpg
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16:02:44  <Eddi|zuHause> english only
16:03:51  <Eddi|zuHause> telanus: don't make jpg screenshots. they're too large
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16:04:45  <telanus> just did a prntscr. sorry
16:04:52  <planetmaker> use the ingame screenshot in png format; then you have no colour loss. And use imagebin for uploading for cases like this. Much faster
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16:05:34  <Eddi|zuHause> telanus: press ctrl+s
16:06:23  <Eddi|zuHause> telanus: and when uploading to hosting sites, make sure they don't do any conversion (like resizing)
16:06:33  <Rubidium> but the error is normal for broken NewGRFs
16:07:34  <telanus> thanx
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18:14:39  <Eddi|zuHause> so... anyone can confirm my suspicion about the 32px depot flag not working?
18:14:50  <Eddi|zuHause> or is that something i do wrong locally?
18:15:35  <Scuddles> what 32px
18:16:40  <Eddi|zuHause> the depot view shortens vehicles from 32px to 28px unless this flag is set
18:17:26  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: not working with...[nml | grfcodec | ottd rev xyz] ?
18:17:37  <andythenorth> can't you bisect one of above to test?
18:17:51  <andythenorth> it's believed to work generally, I've never used it but others report success ;)
18:18:06  * andythenorth would test, but there is a looming poo event, followed by a bath
18:18:08  <Eddi|zuHause> i tried to bisect my grf and openttd, but didn't find a version it was working
18:18:20  <Eddi|zuHause> it did work in the past
18:18:35  <Eddi|zuHause> it might not be the 32px depot flag at all
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18:43:15  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24055 /trunk/src/lang/ (catalan.txt german.txt greek.txt latvian.txt lithuanian.txt):
18:43:15  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:43:15  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 2 changes by arnau
18:43:15  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 2 changes by NG
18:43:15  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: greek - 140 changes by astyanax
18:43:17  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 25 changes by Parastais
18:43:17  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: lithuanian - 17 changes by Stabilitronas
18:58:23  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: the 32px flag works grf-local
18:58:34  <frosch123> every grf can only set it for its own engines
18:58:47  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: yes, but apparently it doesn't for my grf
19:01:58  <frosch123> does the name of your grf start witha a C? iirc we blacklisted those
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19:13:24  <Eddi|zuHause> haha :p
19:14:01  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i'm not even sure other people are seeing the same thing i see... nobody answers...
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19:39:57  <Terkhen> hello
19:43:45  <andythenorth> lo Terkhen
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20:51:57  <andythenorth> how quiet
20:52:00  <andythenorth> let's be noisy
20:52:21  <DorpsGek> WROOOOOM!!!
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20:57:20  <Wolf01> evening o/
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22:04:00  <frosch123> night
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22:07:34  <Terkhen> good night
22:08:10  <andythenorth> Ibye
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22:36:49  <Wolf01> 'night
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23:02:18  <Sacro> Grr, why can't I get pause behavour right with AP+
23:02:35  <Sacro> I want people to be able to manually pause/unpuase, and it to auto-pause when nobody is in
23:03:29  <rane> AP?
23:03:45  <rane> there's the minimum active clients thing
23:07:59  <Sacro> Yeah
23:08:01  <Sacro> I want that
23:08:07  <Sacro> but that auto pauses/unpauses
23:08:09  <Sacro> which I don't want
23:08:26  * Sacro prods brambles
23:11:47  <Sacro> dihedral: there?
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