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00:16:36 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:25:59 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-179-249.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:28:49 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 00:40:43 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 00:45:31 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:03:56 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-83-222.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:23:44 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 01:28:40 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:28:40 *** Zeknurn` is now known as Zeknurn 01:38:55 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:40:12 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-106-10-184.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:51:49 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d8229a7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us] 01:55:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CBA7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 02:01:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BBA4.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:03:29 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 02:16:23 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:42:05 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-188-102-141-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:50:33 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 03:13:30 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 03:38:29 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1d06:69f:c6c1:53ef] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:06:35 *** CQ_ [~chatzilla@p4FD0FB7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:12:02 *** CQ [~chatzilla@p4FD0FF27.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:12:16 *** CQ_ is now known as CQ 04:19:45 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-232-54.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 04:52:51 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74E82.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:53:13 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74465.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:54:28 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:59:05 <Pikka> probably 05:17:55 *** Firartix [~artixds@12.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 05:21:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 05:26:53 <andythenorth> mornings 05:27:02 <Pikka> hello andythenorth 05:27:14 <andythenorth> seigneur bird 05:27:28 <andythenorth> is it pruple there? 05:27:39 <Pikka> partially 05:27:59 <Pikka> I've knocked av8ports down to 10 D: 05:28:10 <andythenorth> less is more 05:28:14 <Pikka> yes 05:28:18 <andythenorth> maths must be wrong 05:28:41 <andythenorth> I have halved BANDIT or so 05:29:39 <andythenorth> Pikka: any airport pictures yet? 05:30:03 <Pikka> nothing new. some of the old ones are still out there somewhere 05:31:38 <Pikka> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Av8port_Designs 05:31:53 <Pikka> none of those layouts will be used though, except the skylift ring 05:32:06 <Pikka> which is now also the airship field, with different graphics obviously :) 05:33:22 <planetmaker> moin 05:33:28 <andythenorth> 'dusty airpark' :) 05:34:24 <Pikka> yep, gorne 05:34:48 <Pikka> although that one's significant in that it was used as the example in outlining the callback spec 05:35:22 <Pikka> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Newgrf_Airports_Documentation#Dusty_Airpark 05:37:56 <andythenorth> hmm. I had a question for Pikka 05:38:09 <andythenorth> but I forgit it 05:38:12 <Pikka> oops 05:38:52 <andythenorth> if you wanted a roundy-hut-thingy, I have an unused one from FIRS 05:38:53 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-foundry.com/sets/FIRS/schema/industry_objects/survey_base 05:39:08 <Pikka> mm, roundy hut thingy 05:39:41 <Pikka> nissen? 05:40:49 <andythenorth> almera 05:40:53 <andythenorth> yes, those 05:41:24 <andythenorth> so BANDIT is now local (small) and line-haul (big) trucks 05:41:31 <andythenorth> plus some special ones that I liked 05:41:44 <andythenorth> and log trucks and stuff are moved to HEQS 05:43:47 <Pikka> cool :) 05:43:50 <Pikka> hmm 05:43:55 <Pikka> make it 9 airports 05:44:04 <Pikka> I'm not making a seperate one just for the empire 05:44:37 <andythenorth> seaplanes? 05:44:42 <Pikka> yes 05:44:56 <Pikka> I'll let the empire land on the short runway 05:45:07 <Pikka> rather than make a special long water runway just for it 05:46:13 <andythenorth> extra-skilled pilot 05:46:32 <Pikka> yes 05:47:34 <andythenorth> do I need a parameter to enable real truck names? :P 05:47:44 <Pikka> probably not 05:48:06 * andythenorth likes fake names 05:49:01 <Pikka> do I need a helipad on a building? 05:49:07 <andythenorth> need? 05:49:12 <andythenorth> is a strong word 05:49:28 <Pikka> I suppose as far as airports go, it's about as simple as it gets 05:49:54 <andythenorth> the game already provides one? 05:49:59 <andythenorth> use that? 05:50:16 <Pikka> well, may as well draw my own, to fit with the rest :) 06:03:40 * andythenorth ponders stations 06:04:24 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:05:55 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:14:52 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 06:30:32 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 06:49:02 <andythenorth> hmm 06:49:10 <andythenorth> can a station get the colour of a nearby industry? 06:49:14 * andythenorth suspects not 06:49:27 <andythenorth> would be an extension of var 67 perhaps 07:00:41 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has joined #openttd 07:01:03 <andythenorth> ho 07:01:06 <andythenorth> the klf 07:01:52 <andythenorth> Pikka: Ice cream van? 07:02:01 <andythenorth> cargo: justified abcients 07:02:07 <andythenorth> ancients /s 07:04:21 <peter1138> they're justified 07:04:23 <peter1138> and they're ancient 07:06:50 <peter1138> mu mu land 07:12:21 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c1A0FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 07:14:09 *** snorre [~snorre@c1A0FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:16:17 <andythenorth> stand by the jams 07:16:30 <andythenorth> new industry: jam 07:17:12 <Eddi|zuHause> sometimes i wonder what language you people are speaking... 07:18:13 <Eddi|zuHause> it's like luxemburgish... you understand half the words, but the other half is meaningless gibberish 07:22:20 <andythenorth> englishish 07:22:57 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:25:16 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:29:54 * andythenorth draws a flood loader 07:30:46 <Rubidium> but flooding makes vehicles explode ;) 07:32:46 <planetmaker> haha :-) 07:32:56 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:32:59 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 07:36:35 <andythenorth> lo Alberth 07:36:49 <Alberth> hi andy 07:37:14 <Alberth> got a good night sleep after last nights heavy movement work ? :) 07:39:29 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:39:59 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:41:27 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:41:28 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 07:41:53 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:42:40 <andythenorth> topic? english only, no englishish 07:44:19 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-86-88.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 07:46:23 <Alberth> I was refering to you moving all kinds of heavy trucks from one place to another, and dismantling lots of them 07:47:42 <andythenorth> oh you missed the englishish discussion earlier ;) 07:48:00 <andythenorth> fortunately, (re)moving trucks is mostly 'hg rm' 07:50:07 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-3-89.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:52:32 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 07:56:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AFF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:00:31 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:01:32 <Alberth> hmm, indeed, I missed that :) 08:01:56 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 08:01:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host205-58-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:02:05 <Wolf01> hello 08:02:16 <Alberth> hi Wolf 08:02:58 <Alberth> I didn't know pixels exploded on contact with water, I have to try that one time ;) 08:04:48 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e09ee84.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:06:21 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:07:19 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 08:08:08 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 08:21:26 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@115.133.1.105] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:22:18 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-83-222.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 08:27:45 <andythenorth> I have taught the toddler to say 'mu mu land' 08:28:02 <andythenorth> we should replace toyland :P 08:28:17 <planetmaker> +1 :-P 08:28:23 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds dirty 08:28:38 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: when children play, it's never ever clean ;-) 08:28:53 <Wolf01> Alberth, didn't know that, but this forum says that Rubidium blocks explode in contact with water: http://powdertoy.co.uk/Discussions/Thread/View.html?Post=191293 eheh :P 08:29:19 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_KLF#The_Justified_Ancients_of_Mu_Mu 08:31:31 * Alberth wants to play with the powder toy :) 08:32:06 <Pikka> andy: only problem is it's hard to make any money 08:32:17 <Pikka> every time you get a million you have to burn it in a field 08:35:19 <andythenorth> in the rain 08:35:20 <Alberth> just create a new currency with a really high exchange rate :p 08:35:24 <andythenorth> for 16 hours 08:39:45 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.1.105] has joined #openttd 08:43:00 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-158-149-6.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:43:03 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 08:44:24 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2754/flood_loader.png 08:44:32 * andythenorth waves at Yexo :) 08:45:11 <Eddi|zuHause> "internal error" 08:46:37 <Pikka> fruit loader 08:46:42 <Alberth> walls do not look very strong for such a high building :) 08:46:56 * andythenorth is playing with powder toy :o 08:47:04 <andythenorth> maybe it can make pixels :P 08:55:17 *** routster [57662f84@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:57:55 *** routster [57662f84@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [] 09:03:30 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-11-52.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 11.0/20120310011224]] 09:05:26 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178233198.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:13:07 <Pikka> aircraft labels D: 09:20:08 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 09:39:21 <andythenorth> :o 09:39:30 <Pikka> exactly 09:39:52 <andythenorth> 'if found, return this bear to...' ? 09:40:00 <andythenorth> 'best before end of xx/yy/zz' ? 09:40:33 <Pikka> yes 09:40:35 <andythenorth> 'this way up' 09:44:49 <andythenorth> labels to match planes to airports? 09:45:07 <Pikka> yes 09:45:15 <andythenorth> hmm 09:45:23 <Pikka> like railtypes 09:45:24 <andythenorth> trucks will need those too, when we have NewTruckStops 09:45:30 <andythenorth> but also roadtype labels 09:45:38 <andythenorth> we might need label-labels :P 09:45:48 <Pikka> well 09:45:54 <Pikka> same thing 09:46:57 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:51:36 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4031.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:58:45 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-232-54.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:04:49 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:18:22 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-232-54.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 10:27:13 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178233198.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:29:50 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has joined #openttd 10:36:46 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178217087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:37:13 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38:07 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has joined #openttd 10:38:11 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38:30 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db0fdf6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:39:04 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has joined #openttd 10:39:16 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40:11 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has joined #openttd 10:43:43 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-188-102-141-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:55:46 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:05:11 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-92-151.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 11:27:29 <andythenorth> V453000: p.67 here http://dreamsongs.com/Files/PatternsOfSoftware.pdf 11:27:39 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@213-186-253-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:27:41 <andythenorth> about painting 11:28:13 <V453000> :) 11:52:01 *** Stimrol_ [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 11:52:24 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:54:03 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:24 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: ever thought about making stadium an industry, accepting passengers, food and beer? 11:55:45 <planetmaker> and meat! 11:55:54 <Eddi|zuHause> appears only in cities > 10000 inhabitants 11:56:31 <andythenorth> it's a valid idea 11:56:34 <andythenorth> same as hotel 11:56:44 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 11:56:53 <planetmaker> andythenorth: could be an alternative layout for hotel? :-) 11:57:07 <planetmaker> hm... we need a more generic name for 'hotel' then 11:57:09 <Eddi|zuHause> could make hotel "must be near water, or high heightlevel" 11:57:14 <planetmaker> tourist destination (Hotel) 11:57:20 <planetmaker> tourist destination (stadion) 11:57:40 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: can the station name property be varied depending on layout? 11:57:54 <planetmaker> Not sure. I think not 11:58:06 <planetmaker> would require it to be a callback 11:58:21 <Eddi|zuHause> that'd probably be very messy 11:58:50 <planetmaker> why would it be messy? 11:59:21 <Eddi|zuHause> it needs to be resolvable without the industry present? 11:59:43 <Eddi|zuHause> afaik station names are not stored explicitly 11:59:55 <Eddi|zuHause> (unless you modify it manually) 12:00:03 <planetmaker> yes. but the location callback needs the same 12:00:39 <planetmaker> as well as the layout callback 12:01:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, the station name must be recalculateable long after the industry is gone 12:01:31 <Eddi|zuHause> (not sure how this is currently implemented) 12:02:33 * andythenorth is off to a wedding 12:02:37 <andythenorth> might bbl 12:02:40 <planetmaker> iirc there's two ways for a station name: the game-generated one (which can include a newgrf- supplied string) and custom station names 12:02:44 <planetmaker> enjoy andythenorth 12:02:46 <andythenorth> or maybe April 1st 12:05:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:07:03 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 12:19:43 *** goodger [~ben@94.30.43.248] has joined #openttd 12:21:16 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-62-92.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 12:21:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 12:27:11 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-86-88.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:38 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:29:17 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 12:29:17 *** George is now known as Guest86 12:29:17 *** George|2 is now known as George 12:31:23 *** Guest86 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:37:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-28-168-34.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:41:14 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:44:09 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable085.125-161-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 12:44:11 <drac_boy> hi 12:54:08 *** Firartix [~artixds@12.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:28 <Eddi|zuHause> man... i can't get this timetable right :( 13:00:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AFF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:54 <drac_boy> heh I never could really figure some of it out before, funny thing was that I was going to ask someone to show me but then that particular server stopped showing up online :-/ 13:05:49 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1c73:1168:5804:cccf] has joined #openttd 13:05:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:08:03 <drac_boy> which of, there any grf creators in here? 13:12:58 <Wolf01> could the game scripts be used to show other players which button to click, maybe making the button blink or something else? 13:13:39 <drac_boy> what you want to blink? just wondering 13:13:56 <Wolf01> the button border for example 13:14:12 <drac_boy> yeah but what kind of button? 13:14:25 <Wolf01> every kind of button in the gui 13:15:04 <Wolf01> but I might need just the main toolbar buttons 13:15:34 <drac_boy> Wolf01 still doesn't make sense to me....they don't need user input asap so why are you trying to do that? 13:15:53 <Wolf01> to teach or give hints to other players 13:16:04 <drac_boy> thats what reading the wiki screenshots are for btw 13:16:59 <Wolf01> not every player is so smart to understand how to use a wiki to learn something 13:17:18 <Wolf01> and most players want to learn ingame 13:17:30 <Wolf01> that's why game scripts were made (tutorials) 13:17:48 <Wolf01> and other similar things 13:18:11 *** cl8 [~cccc@host-92-3-248-196.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 13:18:57 <drac_boy> Wolf01 if you can't figure out that the same place you downloaded the game from is the place to find help pages that even a youth could easily read ...then I dunno what else to tell you? 13:19:09 <drac_boy> sorry if that was a little harsh..didn't meant to :) 13:19:41 <Wolf01> please tell me why if you don't understand my point, the suggestion has no sense and should not be considered 13:20:41 *** morph` [~morph`@78.84.121.50] has joined #openttd 13:22:26 <drac_boy> hmm anyhow..for any grf creator around..I'm wondering if theres any limit on the tiles size of industries or theres pretty much none? 13:24:40 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:26:55 *** gheppe [02e9f10f@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:27:35 <gheppe> qlcn parla italiano 13:28:54 <Rubidium> most in here don't speak Italian 13:29:17 <drac_boy> yeah I have no clue what italian is 13:29:19 <drac_boy> heh :) 13:29:29 *** gheppe [02e9f10f@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [] 13:29:45 <Wolf01> I offered my help but he didn't respond :( 13:29:59 <Eddi|zuHause> <Wolf01> could the game scripts be used to show other players which button to click, maybe making the button blink or something else? <--- afair something like that has been implemented 13:30:33 <Wolf01> good to know 13:31:18 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-188-102-141-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:34:32 <drac_boy> oh there was something else too...can plane and helicopter ids be mixed or its pretty much fixed to 37+3? 13:37:25 <frosch123> Wolf01: check zuu's tutorial scenario & script on bananas 13:38:01 <frosch123> drac_boy: you can have 65000 aircraft no matter what type 13:38:31 <drac_boy> frosch123 heh I should clarify that its going to be an universal grf, not just for ottd 13:38:59 <drac_boy> or is the patch also now unlimited too and I never noticed any news on that? 13:39:12 <frosch123> ok, but you can stil mix plane and helicopters as you wish 13:39:19 <drac_boy> allright, thanks 13:39:41 <drac_boy> was not too sure about that one at first. at least I did figure out that the rail ids can be mixed anywhere 13:41:03 <Zuu> frosch123: Thanks to some help from _Rubidium the bananas database is linked so that when someone picks the scenario, the script is selected as well as a dependency. 13:41:25 <Zuu> Its not possible to do in the GUI, but the underlying system supports it. 13:41:48 <drac_boy> zuu huh, I never knew that...dependency in banana sounds nice 13:42:10 <drac_boy> guess it does make sense for scenarios with newgrf buildings tho 13:42:28 <Zuu> AIs can depend on AI libraries and GS can depend on GS libraries. Other than that, I don't think the GUI support any other dependencies. 13:43:05 <drac_boy> there is only one thing about newgrfs that still annoys me a bit at times but I don't see any plausible ways to fix it... 13:43:09 <Zuu> With GUI I refer to the bananas website BTW. 13:43:18 <drac_boy> having to install grfs in specific orders to avoid some being disabled 13:43:23 <frosch123> wasn't andy working on bananas II ? :p 13:43:29 <drac_boy> eg with Total Bridges or pretty much most of the ecs grfs 13:43:59 <drac_boy> would be nice if one day you could just install grfs in whatever order it apparently is as and it wouldn't bug you anymore. maybe thats just too much to ask atm 13:44:27 <Zuu> Some fun has to be saved for the users ;-) 13:44:42 <drac_boy> zuu you call THAT "fun"? blah :p 13:46:25 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46:36 <drac_boy> frosch123 I assume that for patch/ottd its still only 3 railtypes but for ottd alone its plausible to have several? 13:46:43 <drac_boy> or was there something else I'm still not reading yet? 13:47:13 <Pikka> drac_boy: the total number of people who still use TTDPatch you can count on two fingers, I shouldn't bother. 13:47:17 <frosch123> ottd can have 16 railtypes 13:47:48 <drac_boy> pikka not all patch users are even on irc or forum. hell I just haven't bothered with the forum for a long time and still don't :) 13:48:34 <frosch123> if they are not on the forums how would they find your grf? 13:48:42 <drac_boy> frosch123 allright ty, just thinking about the idea of going with two grfs. one with limited rails and other with no limit. don't know yet, will have to see what it'll take to have that coded 13:49:22 <frosch123> are you using nfo or nml btw? 13:49:22 <drac_boy> frosch123 mind you when I first started playing with the patch I already had downloaded several grfs and never knew there was a forum for another few months 13:50:03 <drac_boy> frosch123 I'm not sure yet. I guess I'm more of the artist/owner and looking to someone else to get it coded for most part 13:50:26 <drac_boy> had tried a bit of nfo before but its just not my kind of thing 13:50:51 <frosch123> well, i doubt nml can encode a vehicle grf that works with ttdp 13:51:08 <drac_boy> oh ok 13:51:53 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... don't try to stop a transrapid < 20 tiles from the destination... 13:52:16 <Rubidium> why? Because it reaches it destination? 13:52:27 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: just remove some track piece in front 13:52:31 <frosch123> and it can stop within 1 tile 13:52:35 <Rubidium> s/s it/s its/ 13:52:39 <drac_boy> heh 13:53:00 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:55:20 <morph`> WHEN'S THE TIME?! 13:55:25 <drac_boy> I'm just asking anyone in here: what would you first think of if I asked you to name a heavy non-articulated mainline steam locomotive? 13:55:35 <drac_boy> in general that is, no need to be railroad specific 13:55:51 <drac_boy> morph time for....umm..what? :) 13:56:10 <FLHerne> Gresley P1? 13:56:17 <Zuu> Big bertha? :-) I'm probably too young for steemers :-) 13:56:29 <goodger> drac_boy: LNER A4 13:57:02 <morph`> WHEN'S THE TIME FOR.. ? 13:57:31 <drac_boy> heh flherne and goodger you two are british aren't you? :) 13:57:39 <goodger> oh my yes 13:57:57 <FLHerne> Yes :P 13:58:36 <FLHerne> Coronations are probably bulkier, actually... 13:58:51 <drac_boy> zuu heh I did find that one a curiousity to me especially the one rare photo of a big bretha and lner garrat on the same train 13:58:53 <FLHerne> not as big as those huge U.S. things though 13:59:33 <drac_boy> flherne yeah usa was mostly 8-coupled instead 14:00:19 <drac_boy> afaik unless someone corrects me their biggest mainline would had been the 4-8-4 across any network .. although in some areas it was different. UP had a few 10-coupled on their long straight mainlines 14:00:37 <FLHerne> P2s were our only 8-coupled pax locos, AFAIK 14:01:09 <drac_boy> flherne knowing a bit about uk and their restricted clearance gauge I wouldn't be too surprised if 6-coupled were ruled on for that reason 14:01:55 <drac_boy> even now and then I hear of a steam event not having a particular locomotive because it wouldn't fit the bridge/station clearance on its route to the location in question 14:02:38 <FLHerne> Quite likely, the loading gauge here is silly. DD stock sortof shows that 14:03:19 <FLHerne> I seem to remember somethig about Gresley designing a 4-8-2 A4 replacement, not sure though 14:03:37 <drac_boy> flherne even then there were sometimes certain usa locomotives built as small and/or short as they were because of an old clearance problem that was still too expensive to be fixed (usually long tunnels or so) 14:04:27 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:04:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 14:05:20 <drac_boy> flherne on the contrast there was one old Utah railroad that had a baldwin mallet that had steam pressure operated piston corks only because the usual steel cables would had bind badly on the very sharp curves 14:05:44 <drac_boy> it was a silly thing to watch sometimes, the front truck could swing almost all the way away from the boiler to make the curves...thats how tight it was 14:06:20 <FLHerne> Interesting...those Shay contraptions look quite odd, too 14:06:24 *** morph` [~morph`@78.84.121.50] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07:54 <drac_boy> btw this was the best one I could find on a short notice http://home.bresnan.net/~bpratt15/images/UintahMallet75.jpg 14:08:09 <drac_boy> its not all curved out yet but it does show you how sharp these poor cheap curves could be 14:09:22 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 14:09:39 <FLHerne> That's already rather angled - looks very strange 14:09:42 <drac_boy> flherne the shays were built more or less specifically for logging rails which were often just dumped onto the ground 'as is' which sometimes could be too rough for the usual siderod locomotives to travel over 14:10:04 <drac_boy> having two seperate 2-axle trucks with lot of travel pretty much made the shay able to run on anything 14:11:19 <drac_boy> btw flherne I found a real photo this time http://www.55n3.org/locomotives/mallet/image/uintah.jpg again..some of a curve :) 14:11:34 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:11:38 <drac_boy> crazy I know, they seem to have been the only railway (afaik) that had mallets on very short curves 14:11:47 <FLHerne> AARK! 14:12:12 <FLHerne> Looks like it might fall over to the left... 14:12:35 <drac_boy> heh well it was a slow line so I don't think they ever had any problem with speed-related derailments :) 14:13:02 <FLHerne> centre-line of the boiler's well outside the outer rail, at least at the front 14:13:07 <drac_boy> and you have to remember that a good bulk of the weight was at the firebox and bunkers which were mostly sitting on the fixed rear section 14:13:22 <drac_boy> it was only the front section that swung 14:13:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i properly managed the timetable now. had to move all trains to the depot, put in two waypoints before the join, and let the timetable be recalculated from scratch, then work out an interleaving scheme 14:14:28 <FLHerne> drac_boy: I know :P Still looks worrying though 14:14:28 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Loisachkirchen%20Transport,%2029.%20Aug%202019.png 14:14:35 <drac_boy> flherne btw re an earlier line of yours...i think there were a few things gresley had wanted to try if it wasn't for everything being interrupted by WWII 14:15:30 <FLHerne> Yeah...shame he never got to try any of them :-( 14:16:22 <drac_boy> flherne the funny thing that I think about tho is that WWII probably also saved some groups of steamers from being cut up 'soon' 14:16:59 <drac_boy> especially on SR where they had the third rails laid down everywhere but still didn't have the fleet needed yet 14:18:38 <drac_boy> so hmm I guess this question may be good for you or some other british user here.. would a 4-4-0 probably had been a decent light mains locomotive? 14:21:06 <FLHerne> Yes, for a while 14:21:32 <drac_boy> from the sound of that I assume theres a different choice? 14:22:00 <FLHerne> Mostly got replaced on heavier workings by 4-6-0s etc later, but stayed in use on secondary lines into the late '50s 14:23:27 <FLHerne> Somerset & Dorset line 2Ps were quite a good example later on 14:24:20 <FLHerne> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Chilcompton_S_and_D_railway_2121992_9ea2e7a0.jpg - piloting a Bullied Light Pacific 14:24:30 <FLHerne> *Bulleid, even 14:25:53 <FLHerne> LNER and previous went for 4-4-2s over 4-4-0s, don't know if OTTD has any 14:26:40 <FLHerne> GWR moved to 4-6-0s under Churchward in the 190xs and 1910s 14:27:09 <FLHerne> In general, the ex-Midland ones lasted longest 14:28:22 <drac_boy> flherne the thing with the tailing axle always is interesting. sometimes it was due to weight spread other times it was for other reasons instead 14:28:59 <drac_boy> in some cases in usa you could have what should had been a 2-6-2 becoming a 2-6-4 on one railroad instead because of the firebox being a bit too heavy for their own rails 14:31:12 <FLHerne> I think Ivatt liked big fireboxes, which wouldn't fit over a trailing pair of drivers 14:31:31 <drac_boy> flherne and I don't know if you've heard of it but some steam locomotives were called 'welter' because they were designed to be lighter due to the railroad's own restrictions 14:31:57 <drac_boy> even NYC had some welter 4-8-4's too .. not everything on NYC was always big :) 14:33:07 <drac_boy> flherne mind you I've liked the Ivatt locomotives a bit....mainly the moguls 14:33:17 <drac_boy> the Ivatt mogul always seem perfect to me for some reason 14:33:24 <FLHerne> Hmm. Never thought of weight restrictions being an issue on US mainlines, what with the size of everything :P 14:33:29 <drac_boy> not too big boiler but looks perfect 14:33:36 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-232-54.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [] 14:33:48 <FLHerne> I prefer his small-boilered Atlantics myself 14:33:52 <drac_boy> flherne well in northeast some weight restrictions were from old city viaducts 14:34:41 <drac_boy> that explained why certain stations always only saw terminal-located shunters or lightweight 6-coupled powers even into the 40's .. and it only took the emd ft to finally end that restriction for good 14:35:12 <drac_boy> one such viaduct I recall was only good for about 150,000 per axle which pretty much ruled out most modern powers 14:35:43 <drac_boy> the emd ft was a little heavier than that but it was allowed because it didn't have any counterweight dynamics to factor in 14:36:33 <drac_boy> flherne atlantics isn't anything new here but very few railroads really took them up 14:36:46 <drac_boy> if you want a good one look up PRR tho..they had a lot of high-wheeled atlantics :) 14:36:59 <drac_boy> one of these became famous for rushing a photographer specials 14:41:32 <drac_boy> flherne have you ever heard of a 2-2-2-2? 14:42:17 <drac_boy> one of these britian steam history magazine I got had one photo of such locomotive. it was sorta like a 2-2-2 but with a second drive axle added. weird idea indeed. caption even mentioned that very few drivers could figure it out too 14:42:40 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-158-149-6.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:47:43 <FLHerne> I've heard of them 14:48:32 <FLHerne> Seems like a bizzare idea, I believe it was a compound with the HP and LP cylinders driving separate axles? 14:51:23 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:49 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178217087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:59:28 <drac_boy> going for now but thanks for the help with both steam locomotives and re grfs :) 14:59:34 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable085.125-161-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 15:08:30 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-83-222.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12:35 *** Pikka_ [~chatzilla@d58-106-10-184.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:13:04 <Rhamphoryncus> Augh 15:13:42 <Rhamphoryncus> Build new line. Switch trains to new line. Start upgrading old line. Remove signals on old line. Trains crash... failed to wait for old line to clear :P 15:16:57 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-106-10-184.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:17:03 *** Pikka_ is now known as Pikka 15:21:28 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-188-224.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 15:23:15 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:09 <oskari89> Someone said that Railtypes can have level crossings (unified) on 2-rail lines? 15:25:20 <oskari89> Or do i remeber right :P 15:26:55 <Pikka> no, they can't 15:30:03 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:32:53 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:36:43 <Eddi|zuHause> ... i have a patch for that (no graphical changes) 15:42:32 <oskari89> Hmm, warning devices can be overlayed :P 15:43:24 <planetmaker> oskari89: that is aslready the case with railtypes 15:43:32 <Pikka> we've been told (tm) that rails aren't going to get to check their neighboring tiles, presumably for performance reasons :) 15:43:48 <planetmaker> the level crossings are composed of 5 sprites: track + 4 warning signs (each corner 1) 15:43:56 <planetmaker> and then of course the normal road tile beneath 15:44:29 <planetmaker> I probably missed the topic :-) 15:44:43 <oskari89> Railtypes can have different type of warning devices? :) 15:44:49 <planetmaker> yes 15:44:57 <oskari89> And different maintenance costs? 15:44:58 <planetmaker> each railtype may define its own 15:45:03 <planetmaker> that's per railtype 15:45:09 <oskari89> Ok. 15:45:23 <oskari89> Just planning Finnish Rail Set ones. 15:45:29 <planetmaker> but of course railtpyes even may define time-dependent graphics etc :-) 15:45:53 <planetmaker> but you do not know the build date for rail tiles. Except for depots and stations 15:46:32 <oskari89> So graphics can be "upgraded" on the fly :P 15:46:47 <oskari89> For example, wooden sleepers to concrete ones.. 15:48:20 <Pikka> oh no it's april 1st 15:48:37 <oskari89> Not quite yet :P 15:48:44 <Pikka> quite yet 15:48:48 <Pikka> by almost 2 hours 15:48:57 <oskari89> 5 hours here :) 15:50:23 <planetmaker> oskari89: yes, graphics for rail tiles will be updated on the fly, if you use time-dependent ones and it's not a station or depot 15:51:03 <oskari89> Ok. 15:51:04 <planetmaker> basically what I do e.g. with SwedishRails is for level crossings: I set a transition start date. And use the 2 random bits for the tiles to decide when that particular tile gets converted to the new form 15:51:26 <planetmaker> within 20 years all tiles are converted. Every 5 years 1/4 of all 15:51:37 <planetmaker> but thus it doesn't show that strongly :-) 15:51:57 <oskari89> Ok, that's wisely done. 15:52:22 <planetmaker> should you write in NML and use GPL-licensed: all the code is on the devzone freely available 15:52:46 <oskari89> Maybe. 15:53:29 <planetmaker> only thing really missing for that set is making use of the new tunnel sprite feature 15:53:42 <planetmaker> with that updated, I guess I should then call it 1.0 :-P 15:53:53 <oskari89> Properties, such as speed can't be modified on the fly? 15:54:16 <planetmaker> no 15:54:26 <planetmaker> they're fixed 15:54:28 <oskari89> Ok, since that would simplify things even more. 15:54:37 <planetmaker> why? 15:54:42 <planetmaker> or how? 15:54:53 <planetmaker> let speed be decided by the trains ;-) 15:55:03 <oskari89> That is true too :P 15:55:20 <planetmaker> double speed limit is - from at least how I play - only annoying 15:55:35 <planetmaker> more interesting is a concept of axle weights 15:55:57 <oskari89> Here we in Finland, infrastructure is always limiting train speeds :P 15:56:01 <planetmaker> which would basically mean to assign that as meta-property to trains by giving them the appropriate railtypes availability 16:00:07 <planetmaker> but generally: no breakdowns. No wagon speed limits, realistic accel for trains and except when using egrvts also for RV 16:03:55 *** ricky26 [~quassel@80.83.125.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:13 <oskari89> Wagon speed limits are more realistic :P 16:05:41 <Zuu> Depends on which reality you live in :-p 16:05:41 <oskari89> It demands you more from infrastructure :) 16:05:50 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 16:06:14 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-232-54.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 16:06:26 <planetmaker> oskari89: a wagon in reality hardly limits speed. It's the company which disallows faster travel with them 16:06:43 <planetmaker> so I say, that's even worse ;-) 16:08:49 <__ln__> http://maps.google.com/?t=8&utm_campaign=8bit&utm_source=yt 16:18:02 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:26:32 <Eddi|zuHause> well... we certainly have april weather here... 16:26:48 <Eddi|zuHause> wind, rain, snow, sunshine (in that order) 16:27:40 <V453000> indeed 16:27:56 <__ln__> i was looking at the weather gadget on desktop and the snow in germany seemed a little surprising 16:30:11 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not _that_ uncommon to snow in april 16:30:48 <planetmaker> April, April, der macht, was er will 16:31:10 <Eddi|zuHause> although the last time we went searching eastereggs in the snow was like 25 years ago :) 16:31:17 <planetmaker> we had hail already today. And sunshine. And rain. And wind 16:31:47 <__ln__> only snow and sunshine here today 16:31:55 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-92-151.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 16:32:09 <Pinkbeast> Bright and sunny here but still poxy cold 16:32:48 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: i learned it as "April, April, der weià nicht was er will" 16:33:32 <Eddi|zuHause> it was summerly warm a week ago 16:34:27 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-188-102-141-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:34:58 <planetmaker> we learnt it different then, Eddi|zuHause :-) 16:35:03 <Rhamphoryncus> Wagons aren't limited in speed in the same way that a car engine doesn't have a hard rpm limit. It's an artificial limitation 16:35:19 <planetmaker> Indeed quite a bit lower... I was kinda happy to not have put away the warmer part of my jacket 16:35:34 <V453000> Eddi|zuHause: was sunny when you wrote it, now it is a thunderstorm here 16:37:14 * Alberth learnt the saying about may just like planetmaker 16:37:24 <Alberth> *april 17:05:22 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-106-10-184.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:13 *** Jogio [~5080d30d@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:08:11 <Jogio> hi moin bonjourno mahlzeit servus tag hello dere mitanand 17:08:20 <Jogio> :-) 17:11:38 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:13:09 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 17:14:01 <Alberth> hi 17:20:29 <Rhamphoryncus> aaaugh. Speedlink Open in UKRS2 is broken and autorefit doesn't work. Nice to find out after manually converting 110 trains 17:22:17 <frosch123> Jogio: you should synchronise the greetings with the current time in areas where the languages are spoken :p 17:22:38 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-157-191.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 17:24:54 <Jogio> frosch123: hi moin mahlzeit servus tag hello dere mitanand quack quack quack :-) 17:27:01 <Eddi|zuHause> also, it's "tach", not "tag" :) 17:28:27 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-188-224.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:29 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 17:31:16 <Jogio> bad news eddi, I think panorama screenshot is cancled by Mr. or Mrs. p. 17:34:08 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause may know that I'm not convinced by Panorama-Screenshot... 17:35:12 <planetmaker> simply on grounds that it's not a word which I'd associate even on 2nd thought with a zoomed-in one 17:35:20 <Eddi|zuHause> when it wasn't accepted when including the patch, i certainly don't expect it to be accepted now 17:35:38 <planetmaker> it's only a translation ;-) 17:36:45 <Jogio> but the png you get look like a panorama of the map :-) 17:36:54 <planetmaker> it's not a thing I'd veto. But I'd not change it to it myself ;-) 17:37:24 * Alberth has 360 degrees photos in mind with 'panorama' 17:37:29 <planetmaker> Jogio: that's the giant screenshot 17:37:33 <planetmaker> Alberth: so do I 17:37:48 <Jogio> and it's such a nice word and begins with p exactly like your name 17:38:15 <Alberth> it does? 17:38:19 <planetmaker> let's rename OpenTTD to Panorama ;-) 17:38:35 <Alberth> nah, too ordinary :) 17:38:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd accociate "panorama" with any wider overview 17:38:48 <planetmaker> Amaronap? 17:39:09 <Jogio> good idea for first april planetmaker :-) 17:39:41 <Alberth> too complicated, nobody will get it :) 17:40:07 <Jogio> Yeah and ARD has copyrights 17:40:16 <Jogio> or ZDF 17:40:33 <planetmaker> they don't. Nor trademark 17:40:39 <planetmaker> trademarks are per category 17:40:58 <planetmaker> and I'd be surprised if they got it reserved for comptuer games 17:41:29 <Alberth> in which case, we don't have a game, but a 'simulation' :p 17:41:30 <planetmaker> you can't copyright an ordinary word anyway 17:41:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24081 /trunk/src/lang/irish.txt: 17:41:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:41:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: irish - 17 changes by tem 17:42:06 <planetmaker> it needs to surpass the "Schöpfungshöhe" 17:42:27 <Jogio> oh no it's too late for panorama screenshot 17:42:36 <Jogio> :-) 17:44:06 <Alberth> hmm, a german explanation of a german word is not helping much :) 17:45:23 <Alberth> Hmm, code might work better if I stop comparing actual path tile values with conceptual ones :) 17:45:26 <TWerkhoven> base-height? 17:45:34 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: why not? handling single-language dictionaries are part of all advanced foreign language classes 17:45:35 <TWerkhoven> ground level 17:45:38 <planetmaker> Alberth: what word? 17:45:44 <Alberth> Schöpfungshöhe 17:46:11 <planetmaker> it's a term from copyright law. It basically describes the need to have *some* originality before you can claim copyright 17:46:48 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: "Die Schöpfungshöhe (auch: Gestaltungshöhe, Werkhöhe)[1] ist ein Kriterium, das im Urheberrecht urheberrechtlich geschÃŒtzte Werke von solchen Leistungen abgrenzt, die keinem urheberrechtlichen Schutz unterliegen. Die Notwendigkeit einer solchen Abgrenzung in jeder Rechtsordnung beruht darauf, dass das zentrale internationalen Abkommen zum Urheberrecht, die Revidierte Berner Ãbereinkunft, den Begriff Werk voraus setzt und 17:47:04 <Alberth> is not very helpful to me :) 17:47:35 <planetmaker> it basically is the borderline between trivial and genuine work 17:47:35 <Eddi|zuHause> very legalese :) 17:48:19 <Alberth> planetmaker: yeah, I got that far with the "Eigentumsbegriff" :) 17:48:45 <planetmaker> :-) 17:48:52 <planetmaker> You cannot go further basically. 17:48:56 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@31.75.158.246] has joined #openttd 17:48:59 <Alberth> :) 17:49:28 <planetmaker> As in case of doubt a court has to rule whether some work is sufficiently genuine to be subject to copyright or trivial enough to not warrant any protection by copyright 17:50:36 <Alberth> makes sense 17:52:19 <planetmaker> e.g. when I adjust contrast and colours of a photo I certainly are below that. But if I cut out the person from it and it on another background it might be sufficient for being subject to copyright 17:52:27 <Eddi|zuHause> there was once a case where someone copied code from a html page, and the other person sued, but lost, because the page was generated by word's "export as HTML" feature, and thus did not reach the "schöpfungshöhe" 17:52:48 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.1.105] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:52:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r24082 /branches/1.2/ (32 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) 17:52:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [1.2] -Backport from trunk: 17:52:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Update: languages 17:52:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: A fix that breaks all other cases isn't really a fix. Redo it to make 17:52:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: sure that reservations of trains entering or exiting depots are properly made 17:52:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: and freed-Fix [FS#5093,FS#5130] (r24071): A fix that breaks all other cases 17:52:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: isn't really a fix. Redo it to make sure that reservations of trains entering or 17:54:20 <Jogio> oh it's like christmas 17:55:43 <Rubidium> Christmas? Don't be a fool. Or should we pity the fool? 17:55:57 <planetmaker> :-) 17:56:43 <Jogio> what we pity the fool? no sounds not good 17:57:10 <planetmaker> April 1st is April fools day... 17:57:20 <planetmaker> Christmas is Christmas day ;-) 17:57:25 <Jogio> i wrote some tschuuh- tschuuhs and brum-brums on my wishlist 17:57:36 <planetmaker> so when we worship Christmas on Christmas, what do we do April 1st? 17:57:49 <V453000> you will see :> 17:58:06 <Jogio> playing openttd? 17:58:14 <V453000> yessss 17:58:22 <planetmaker> might do that. Though... not me :-( 17:58:33 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@31.75.158.246] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 17:59:21 <planetmaker> gotta be near Amsterdam Monday at 9. Thus we leave at 4pm tomorrow... 18:00:51 <V453000> well we start playing at midnight :D 18:01:11 <V453000> this midnight :) 18:01:38 <Jogio> i usually sleep at midnight 18:01:54 <V453000> special day :p 18:01:59 <Jogio> or a little bit later 18:06:30 <V453000> Q: in what timezone is bananas? GMT? 18:06:43 <V453000> or +1? 18:07:10 <Rubidium> utc? 18:07:12 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:18 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 18:08:12 <V453000> oh :) 18:08:13 <Alberth> most unix machines use utc :) 18:08:22 <V453000> thanks 18:08:55 <V453000> ooooh o_O I always hated the summer time 18:09:12 <V453000> so now I have in gmt+1 two hours more than utc 18:09:40 <planetmaker> er what? 18:09:54 <V453000> http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx is this correct? 18:09:55 <planetmaker> we're now at gmt+2 18:10:37 <planetmaker> yes, it is correct 18:10:49 <planetmaker> cet = gmt+1. cest = gmt+2 18:10:59 <planetmaker> gmt knows no summer or winter time. 18:11:11 <V453000> thats what surprised me 18:11:13 <Alberth> according to tt-forums, even utc has summer time :) " All times are UTC + 1 hour [ DST ]" :p 18:11:13 <V453000> hm ok :) 18:11:34 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-83-222.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 18:12:19 <planetmaker> V453000: it doesn't mean that britain has no summer time (dunno). But the standard time better not have such quirks 18:12:28 <V453000> yes I understand :) 18:12:51 <V453000> I dont quite care about that, I just needed to know when bananas says 1.4. 18:13:10 <planetmaker> dunno. Probably gmt ;-) 18:13:16 <V453000> :D 18:13:26 <V453000> w/e I upload it today and call it 1.4 edition 18:13:38 <V453000> fuck time :D 18:14:54 *** xiong [~xiong@76-218-102-28.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:18:04 *** Jogio [~5080d30d@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:34:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:40:46 <andythenorth> efening 18:41:24 <Alberth> moin andy 18:52:34 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-232-54.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [] 18:59:52 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:03 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:01:50 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e09ee84.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 19:08:33 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-11-52.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:16:21 *** ISA [5abefb55@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:16:33 <ISA> hey! 19:17:35 <andythenorth> hey! 19:19:48 <ISA> hey andy, You probably know something about industries and it's code? 19:20:02 <andythenorth> :) 19:20:32 <Terkhen> I reckon he knows a thing or two 19:20:39 <Alberth> ISA: he suppressed it all from memory 19:21:58 <ISA> as i have done some drawing on the back stage I wanted to know some thing and how I should end them 19:22:52 <ISA> its about mine ground tiles... are they coded as separate and buildings overlap? 19:23:08 <ISA> or is this way possible to code if that not they way they work 19:23:09 <andythenorth> each tile is a stack of sprites 19:23:22 <ISA> so they overlap in other words? 19:23:25 <andythenorth> yup 19:23:26 <andythenorth> 1 min 19:23:43 <ISA> like original coal mine for example 19:24:02 <ISA> ground and then buildings over laps them? 19:24:05 <andythenorth> yup 19:24:08 <andythenorth> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/firs/raw-file/3c209564d26f/sprites/graphics/industries/quarry_waterpit.png 19:24:13 <andythenorth> ^ that's the FIRS quarry 19:24:23 <ISA> good 19:24:28 <andythenorth> buildings on the right of that spritesheet explain it better than words 19:24:50 *** ISA [5abefb55@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:25:13 *** ISA [5abefb55@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:25:17 <ISA> dam 19:25:22 <ISA> messed up something :D 19:25:27 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host86-158-149-6.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:25:30 <ISA> back in 19:26:16 <ISA> so thanks andy that cleard things up... Now I can creat some ground tiles then 19:26:32 <ISA> cleared 19:26:51 *** mrfrenzy [~mrfrenzy@abydos.syntaxis.se] has joined #openttd 19:27:09 <mrfrenzy> hey, I know you have all seen the google 8-bit map today 19:27:21 <mrfrenzy> has someone thought about making a openttd-map-generator from that? 19:27:37 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:27:47 <Alberth> no idea what you are talking about 19:28:11 <ISA> :D 19:28:25 <andythenorth> Alberth: http://www.pcworld.com/article/252974/google_maps_goes_8bit_for_april_fools.html 19:28:57 <andythenorth> it's like railroad tycoon :P 19:29:06 <ISA> yup 19:29:11 <Alberth> neat :) 19:29:33 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 19:29:41 <ISA> or transport giant or whatever the game was called 19:30:11 <Alberth> there are ascii-art generators that you can tweak, I think 19:30:14 <Rubidium> interesting... 19:30:40 <Rubidium> both the Netherlands and Poland are shown, but Germany not yet (as name) at reasonably zoomed out level 19:31:09 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178217087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:31:09 <__ln__> http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2012/03/begin-your-quest-with-google-maps-8-bit.html 19:31:23 <Rubidium> then zooming in one step shows Berlin (not Germany), but also two towns in Denmark and two in France. The oddity 19:32:00 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:32:12 <Rubidium> streetview is just plain ugly though 19:34:51 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:35:15 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host86-158-149-6.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 19:35:22 <oskari89> Streetview looks like acid trip :P 19:35:46 *** ISA [5abefb55@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:35:55 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Snail_] 19:36:00 *** ISA [5abefb55@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:37:35 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host86-158-149-6.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:38:26 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:39:17 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host86-158-149-6.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:39:34 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host86-158-149-6.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:39:51 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:42:46 <andythenorth> " Your system may not meet the minumum requirements for 8-bit computations." 19:43:00 <andythenorth> google did a typo :o 19:44:01 <ISA> XD 19:47:15 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host86-158-149-6.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 19:49:35 <ISA> ok Im off 19:50:16 <ISA> watching ny red bulls game on tv 19:50:17 <ISA> cya 19:51:03 *** ISA [5abefb55@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:00:05 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable085.125-161-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:00:07 <drac_boy> hi 20:07:46 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 20:09:41 <Terkhen> hi drac_boy 20:10:46 <drac_boy> hi terkhen how're you? 20:10:54 <Terkhen> can't complain 20:11:02 <Terkhen> but I usually do anyways 20:11:36 <drac_boy> heh 20:11:57 <drac_boy> doing ok here, just had a nice resting 20:12:11 <drac_boy> wondering about trying do some more grf work or not....still no good online games atm as usual :-s 20:12:51 <mrfrenzy> how is work coming on the 32bpp-graphics? 20:19:10 *** jakim [~jakim@cpe-065-184-147-178.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:21:17 *** jakim [~jakim@cpe-065-184-147-178.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [] 20:22:18 *** jakim [~jakim@cpe-065-184-147-178.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:22:19 *** jakim is now known as jmodule 20:25:50 <oskari89> Does someone know that can default level crossing warning sound be replaced with grf? 20:26:26 <oskari89> Or having a continous level crossing warning sound when level crossing is on warning state? 20:27:00 *** jmodule [~jakim@cpe-065-184-147-178.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31:36 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-158-149-6.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:34:07 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: there's a bug with the log tug: it moves backwards while unloading 20:34:32 <andythenorth> I thought I fixed that :P 20:35:21 <andythenorth> hmm 20:35:28 <andythenorth> it has to move a bit 20:36:18 <andythenorth> changing the size of the 'vehicle' means changing the centre of rotation 20:36:28 <frosch123> oskari89: you can replace all sounds with newgrfs. but for the level crossing there is only a sound for closing it 20:36:37 <drac_boy> log tug....you one of the people working on that boat grf? 20:36:43 <frosch123> you can make it longer or shorter, but there is no releation with reopening 20:39:01 * drac_boy still plays with danmack's old one-boat fishing boat grf at times 20:40:07 <oskari89> frosch123: Closing? I thought when train is on top of crossing :) 20:40:36 <andythenorth> as far as I know, nobody is currently working on boat grfs, although Michael Blunck might be 20:40:39 <frosch123> might also be that 20:41:01 <frosch123> it's the same when not using pbs 20:41:21 <frosch123> and i have not played with sound since the introduction of pbs :p 20:41:44 * drac_boy never bothered with any sound/music in the game due to other things in background having focus on the sound card anyway 20:41:46 <drac_boy> heh heh 20:42:04 <frosch123> exactly ^^ 20:42:37 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 20:43:17 <frosch123> and after installing a flash blocking ff-addon with white-listing (i.e. block everything by default), there are no longer any stupid ads babbling into my music 20:43:31 <frosch123> though i was quite surprised that a flash blocker blocks 90% of all ads 20:43:54 <frosch123> nowadays 20:44:27 <drac_boy> I just simply don't have flash and the host set to not allow external domains ... stupid simple solution after all :) 20:44:43 <frosch123> i stopped using adblockers since they slowed everything... but the flash blocker plugin is trivial compared to the fance adblockers 20:45:49 <SpComb> NoScript has useful side-effects 20:45:56 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-158-149-6.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 12.0/20120328051619]] 20:49:11 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Snail_] 20:50:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i just disabled JavaScript and all plugins (means Flash) 20:50:38 <Eddi|zuHause> and then half a dozen urls into the image filter 20:51:19 *** Firartix [~artixds@12.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 20:52:54 <frosch123> night 20:52:57 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4031.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58:48 <drac_boy> any of you know of any good example of C' (or 0-6-0 for these other people) light duty diesel locomotive? just wanted look up some photos, not much else there 20:58:56 <drac_boy> don't care which transmission it uses 21:00:30 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: west german V60 (i believe the east german V60 was D, not C) 21:01:09 <Eddi|zuHause> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB-Baureihe_V_60 21:01:55 <drac_boy> heh I had forgotten about that one, thanks 21:04:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-28-168-34.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:05:43 <drac_boy> while we're at the V numbering, how about the V200 with Y exhaust .. or V36 hauling these thunder coaches 21:05:45 <drac_boy> :) 21:06:38 * andythenorth shirks drawing trucks 21:07:12 <Eddi|zuHause> no idea what an Y exhaust is 21:07:44 <drac_boy> sorry I think thats what some people called them...since rather than going straight up as usual it was deflected off toward both sides as to blow clear of the overhead wires 21:08:07 <drac_boy> andythenorth road or offroad kind? :) 21:08:34 <andythenorth> road kind 21:08:57 <drac_boy> Kensworth? heh .. maybe I shouldn't ask and just let you get back to work 21:08:58 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:41 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: i know that only of the V160 (BR 218) that the exhaust was "split" sidewards 21:11:30 <drac_boy> hmm maybe it was that one instead, sorry 21:12:35 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-188-102-141-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:56 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:22:06 <andythenorth> hmm 21:22:22 <andythenorth> T/E coefficient is a direct proxy for gear ratios in vehicles 21:22:43 <andythenorth> i.e. gear ratio is a factor in actual TE 21:22:52 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178217087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:23:35 <andythenorth> also....bedtime 21:23:39 <andythenorth> good night 21:23:45 <drac_boy> bye andythenorth 21:23:47 <Terkhen> good night andythenorth 21:23:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:24:24 <drac_boy> hmm allright think I got the locomotive list almost done now 21:28:31 *** bb10 [~bb10@bb10x.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:15 *** bb10 [~bb10@bb10x.org] has joined #openttd 21:33:59 <drac_boy> hmm would you had quoted it as A-1 or A'1 for a locomotive with two axles but only one powered? 21:34:58 * Rhamphoryncus ponders the fact that a 1.5 tile logging truck carries 141 tonnes of wood but the 4 tile train carries 180 tonnes 21:35:38 <drac_boy> Rhamphoryncus thats the problem with different grfs coming together on a single map I believe :-/ 21:35:48 <Rhamphoryncus> yeah 21:35:56 <drac_boy> and beside 141 tonnes sound a bit on the heavy side even if it was only an offroad log truck 21:36:54 <Rhamphoryncus> aye 21:37:24 <drac_boy> Rhamphoryncus also one of the other problem I've sometimes wondered about is how do you define the weight of a overly-generic cargo too? I mean "goods" could mean one 4x10ft crate holds only 20kg of glass yet another 2x6ft crate holds 100kg of lead blocks 21:37:25 <Rhamphoryncus> The articulated flatbed does 56 21:37:49 <Rhamphoryncus> Goods are deliberately vague 21:38:04 <drac_boy> 'food' is another one too..and I'm sure theres a few more 21:39:29 <drac_boy> Rhamphoryncus also I'm still thinking about the HEQS trams (I'm guilt for loving them ok??!) 21:40:18 <drac_boy> two 48km/h trams in a circular loop can haul much more for cheaper than two cheap 0-6-0 Goods locomotive in ukrs2 would think about dealing with 21:40:28 <drac_boy> ^_^ 21:40:52 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:43:10 <drac_boy> Rhamphoryncus I'm not trying to bushwhack anyone but I never understood why airplanes are always left artifically too cheap :p 21:43:33 <Rhamphoryncus> too cheap? Anything short of infinite is free :P 21:44:08 <drac_boy> you're really funny 21:44:11 <drac_boy> :) 21:44:33 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@213-186-253-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:44:44 <Rhamphoryncus> I'm actually serious. Once you're established you never worry about money again 21:45:26 * drac_boy thinks you'll have to play one of my game where most costs are finally reasonable 21:45:28 <drac_boy> :) 21:46:28 <Rhamphoryncus> I've tried to balance costs in my own games. Usually I die early on by picking something that's not profitable. After a couple attempts I find what works.. then the game reverts to normal. 21:47:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r24083 /branches/1.2/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [1.2] -Update: documentation 21:48:28 <drac_boy> heh 21:49:20 * Pinkbeast uses HEQS trams for short hops only, they're taking the mickey a bit for train distances 21:49:53 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 21:50:26 <drac_boy> pinkbeast what do you use when you want to fly? :) 21:50:48 <Pinkbeast> av8, but I rarely use aircraft at all 21:51:10 <Pinkbeast> Except choppers for pax to oil rigs. 21:51:16 <drac_boy> russiaplanes for me because of two considerations that I've found most other grfs to be missing out on 21:51:22 <drac_boy> :) 21:51:33 <Pinkbeast> Hm? 21:51:44 <drac_boy> one: actual cargo planes 21:52:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r24084 /tags/fools/: -Release: the April fools release 21:53:15 <drac_boy> lol, not april 1 yet for another 6 hours here :) 21:53:48 <Rubidium> you live in the wrong time zone 21:53:55 <drac_boy> or maybe you do :p 21:54:38 <drac_boy> pinkbeast mind you I do actually fly my cargos once in a while mainly due to difficult terrains for land transport otherwise 21:55:33 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:53 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable085.125-161-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 22:23:17 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:23:36 *** Firartix [~artixds@12.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:25:01 <Terkhen> good night 22:33:20 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:33:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74465.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:08 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 22:52:30 <Wolf01> 'night 22:52:36 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host205-58-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:52:50 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable085.125-161-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 22:52:53 <drac_boy> hi 22:53:26 <drac_boy> just wondering but how do you make sure that the original vehicles doesn't load at all especially if multigrf was enabled? 23:08:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AFF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:09:37 <xQR> planetmaker the "full changelog" link at the news post doesn't work ^^ 23:13:37 <xQR> it has a " or %22 at the end 23:24:00 <drac_boy> hmm 'railmotor' or 'railcar' ... sometimes I hate multiply english terms 23:30:11 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:38:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AFF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:04 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 23:44:06 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:44:06 *** Zeknurn` is now known as Zeknurn 23:50:27 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B73CA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:50:43 <Eddi|zuHause> that was weird... 23:50:58 <drac_boy> what was? :-/ 23:51:06 <Eddi|zuHause> my internet disappeared 23:51:18 <drac_boy> ic :-| 23:51:24 <drac_boy> well you're here now 23:51:28 <Eddi|zuHause> but there was no actual error. 23:51:35 <Eddi|zuHause> modem synced 23:51:39 <Eddi|zuHause> lan connected 23:51:43 <Eddi|zuHause> everything normal 23:52:37 <__ln__> but is this the same internet you were disconnected from?! 23:53:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. i hope :p 23:53:30 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe they replaced the internet with a fake one meanwhile 23:54:02 <__ln__> yes, that happens all the time yet people rarely come back to tell about it 23:54:22 <drac_boy> :)