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00:01:19 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-158-199-160.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 12.0/20120328051619]] 00:04:55 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-102-97.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:05:23 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-102-97.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 00:11:34 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 00:16:01 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 00:25:46 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-102-97.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:40:53 <drac_boy> what to do now... 00:43:45 <Sahri> Sleep? 00:48:02 <drac_boy> sahri its too early yet :) 00:48:18 <Sahri> like how early :P 00:49:09 <drac_boy> close to 2 hours early 00:49:44 <Sahri> What time is it there? 00:56:32 *** namad7 [aaaaa@c-67-163-246-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [] 00:56:39 <drac_boy> close to 9pm 00:56:41 <drac_boy> you? 00:59:05 *** goodger [~ben@94.30.43.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:27 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:9d58:a10c:c5bb:85ac] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:05:53 *** namad7 [aaaaa@c-67-163-246-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:10:35 <drac_boy> sahri you already asleep on the keyboard? heh heh 01:10:50 <Sahri> Nope but I'm about to :P 01:12:21 <Sahri> I dunno why it is but in the subtropical climate I have a problem getting enough passengers to fill my lorries but that's most likely because the city growth relies on cargo there 01:12:29 <Sahri> I mean buses 01:13:05 <drac_boy> dunno, tropical towns isn't something I've really bothered with sorry :) 01:13:09 *** namad7 [aaaaa@c-67-163-246-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:13:14 *** michi_cc [~michi@p5B041CB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 01:14:02 <Sahri> I don't really like the other climates. Toyland was fun but they hardly get new vehicles 01:15:15 <drac_boy> heh well I rarely ever play with the original vehicles of any sort anymore so I dunno :) 01:15:38 *** namad7 [aaaaa@c-67-163-246-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:24:01 <Sahri> I'm still pretty clingy to the original though I do like the stuff people made for OpenTTD 01:24:07 <Sahri> But I'm heading off now 01:24:11 <drac_boy> bye sahri 01:24:16 <Sahri> Keeling over from sleep =_= 01:24:22 <drac_boy> lol 01:24:34 *** Sahri [~IceChat77@52494455.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: 'Till all are one!] 01:27:37 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-189-104.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:36:51 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-92-151.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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04:40:32 <Pikka> sounded like a freight train going past outside 04:40:59 <Pikka> turned out to be a combination of an a320 flying overhead and a kid on a skateboard riding over cracks in the pavement. 04:43:10 <andythenorth> did it have dice in the mirror? 04:43:27 <andythenorth> hmm 04:43:37 * andythenorth might attempt a little more napping 04:43:43 <andythenorth> as the baby is now having one 04:43:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 04:52:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7466C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:52:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B744DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:53:08 *** k-man [~Jason@ppp167-253-181.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 04:53:22 <k-man> on osx, when i go full screen the mouse is very jerky 04:53:30 <k-man> and the game feels a bit slow 04:54:43 <Rhamphoryncus> k-man: osx needs a maintainer to volunteer 04:55:21 <Rhamphoryncus> Bug reports can still help us fix bugs, but noone is looking preemptively, and it can be hard to do the fixes 04:56:03 <k-man> Rhamphoryncus, ah ok 05:11:27 *** Stimrol_ [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 05:14:14 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:33:00 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:33:18 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 05:36:48 <k-man> whats the keyboard shortcut to toggle invisibility of buildings etc? 05:41:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@175.137.102.249] has joined #openttd 05:47:37 <Pikka> x, k-man 06:02:49 *** Firartix [~artixds@12.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 06:03:04 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 06:24:13 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-14-2.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:26:39 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:34:44 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:36:10 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.86.201] has joined #openttd 06:40:14 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-14-2.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 06:46:26 <planetmaker> moin 06:49:11 <Pikka> moin pranetmakel 06:51:04 <Terkhen> good morning 06:54:13 <planetmaker> hello Pikka, Terkhen :-) 06:59:20 <k-man> how do i refit a cargo train to accept rubber once the train is in the depot? 06:59:59 <Terkhen> open the vehicle window and click on the refit button, it replaces the go to depot button when you are in a depot 07:02:35 <k-man> Terkhen, thanks 07:14:34 *** Firartix [~artixds@12.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:15:53 <Eddi|zuHause> Pikka now turned into a japanese? 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:) 10:38:13 <drac_boy> how're you alberth? 10:43:02 <Alberth> having lunch :) 10:44:48 <drac_boy> heh 10:46:10 <drac_boy> just redoing vehicles list so it'll be a bit cleaner, changed some ideas too as well 10:46:24 <drac_boy> otherwise...not much else except for breakfast later 10:50:02 *** Firartix [~artixds@147.215.81.100] has joined #openttd 10:58:45 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009250.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:59:48 *** Firartix [~artixds@147.215.81.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:59:50 *** Sahri [~IceChat77@52494455.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:07:21 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 11:10:22 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-61-40.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 11:28:37 *** goodger [~ben@94-30-43-248.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #openttd 11:55:59 *** kaenkky [~kaenkky_@GGZYYYKMMMCXCIX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: d] 12:08:04 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:ec46:7e31:1a00:9bf] has joined #openttd 12:08:07 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:17:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:18:54 <drac_boy> hi andy-from-up-north :) 12:18:56 <drac_boy> heh heh 12:19:26 <Alberth> hi andy 12:21:50 <andythenorth> lo 12:24:23 <drac_boy> how're you? 12:40:18 *** brenhein [~brenhein@96-42-150-85.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 12:41:21 <Pikka> morning andythenorth 12:41:32 <Pikka> depots are released into the wild :) 12:41:51 <andythenorth> is it so :) 12:41:56 <andythenorth> wild depots 12:41:58 <andythenorth> free range 12:42:08 <andythenorth> do they have a red tractor logo on them? 12:42:10 <Pikka> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Finescale_standard_gauge_and_3rd_rail 12:42:18 <Pikka> yes 12:42:54 <andythenorth> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=red+tractor+logo&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=peV-T4fEFeuk0AWUxOySBw&biw=1230&bih=668&sei=p-V-T83CEqnT0QXr5PXpBg 12:43:15 <Pikka> how rare 12:43:28 <Pikka> I wouldn't necessarily have picked it for a tractor if you hadn't told me 12:43:49 <andythenorth> ho ho 12:43:52 <andythenorth> nice depots 12:43:56 <drac_boy> heh interesting depot graphics btw ... the lowerright one looks like it has platforms inside or is that just the floor? 12:44:08 <Pikka> I had some nice sheds to work with, andy 12:44:25 <Pikka> mostly floor, drac_boy, or whatever you like :) 12:44:48 <andythenorth> Pikka: when is your industry set finished? 12:44:52 <andythenorth> I'm totally bored with mine :P 12:44:55 *** brenhein [~brenhein@96-42-150-85.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has quit [] 12:44:59 <Pikka> I have no idea, andy 12:45:20 <Pikka> once I get my bolg working I'm going to start posting up ideas for how the mines and farms are going to work 12:45:22 <planetmaker> FIRS is dead :-( 12:45:58 <V453000> wha? 12:46:12 <planetmaker> no-one interested to continue working on it. Simple 12:46:20 <V453000> hmf 12:48:09 <andythenorth> he's kind of right 12:48:19 <andythenorth> could be stasis rather than dead 12:48:42 <andythenorth> whenever I try and fix a ticket I lose interest 12:48:44 <Alberth> zombie state :) 12:48:55 <andythenorth> although planetmaker - when we both work on a ticket, it gets resolved... 12:49:00 <andythenorth> but you seem to be busy and so do I 12:49:18 <V453000> just leave it there for a while and return to it later ;) 12:49:37 <Alberth> for FIRS 2.0 :) 12:49:59 <V453000> from my own relatively short experience in compare with you, I for example do something for nuts every day, but sometimes I also have to take a break for a week or so 12:50:45 <V453000> I do not think it is possible to continuously do stuff still on and on 12:51:17 <andythenorth> true 12:51:21 <V453000> tak e a rest or do something else like chips and perhaps the taste for firs comes back after a while :) 12:51:32 <andythenorth> but FIRS didn't release for over a year 12:51:39 <andythenorth> or so 12:51:44 <V453000> really? :o 12:51:47 <andythenorth> maybe a bit less 12:52:33 <andythenorth> less actually 12:52:57 <drac_boy> V453000 some of the grfs are more or less casual weekend projects. takes a long time to get one step forward 12:53:22 <V453000> I am making my trains set for almost a year drac_boy 12:53:55 <V453000> but sure, I also made the logic engine update in about 2 hours :) small newGRFs are fun too 12:54:27 <drac_boy> heh btw whats 'logic engine'? 12:54:34 <andythenorth> basically with one toddler, one newborn baby, work, backache and codebase I don't understand....I can't make progress on FIRS 12:55:05 <V453000> understandable 12:55:30 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:55:48 <V453000> firs is in quite a good shape atm though, isnt it? 12:56:09 <drac_boy> as far as I recall, yeah 12:56:13 <V453000> I mean, there isnt anything super urgent that needs doing 12:56:34 <V453000> people like it already 13:00:01 <oskari89> drac_boy: It's maglev which speed can be defined trough it's parameter 1 setting.. 13:00:08 <drac_boy> V453000 just wondering but what did you think of the uk industry grf? 13:00:13 <oskari89> (I've got it 40000 kph) :) 13:00:22 <andythenorth> FIRS has open bugs 13:00:26 <drac_boy> oskari89 oh heh 13:01:28 <V453000> drac_boy: the TAI has industries already? Or the PBI industries w/ the UKRS brick chain? 13:01:53 <oskari89> But, if you want to have performance, you must use twice as much locomotives as wagons on your maglev train :P 13:02:14 <oskari89> Especially when there's less distance between stations.. 13:03:24 * andythenorth does work 13:04:20 <drac_boy> V453000 the PBI yeah 13:04:29 <V453000> ah 13:04:40 <V453000> well ... I personally hate the fact that mines die for example 13:04:53 <V453000> and I always just use multiple factories to overcome the capacity cap 13:05:10 <drac_boy> V453000 theres a few things I just really don't like at all, at least I don't have to use it at all so I'm not complaining 13:05:44 <V453000> well the saving grace is that forests and farms dont die :D 13:05:51 <drac_boy> two main things were: low input limit, the steel mill is just too difficult to use most of the times 13:06:52 <drac_boy> I mean, look at it.. coal mines often outstrip ore mines most of the times when it comes to output yet the steel mill just 'seem' to assumes that a perfect 1:1 ratio nonstop is possible otherwise 13:08:02 *** Ricaz [~Ricaz@nobelnet.dk] has joined #openttd 13:08:09 <Ricaz> How do you disable aircraft server-side? 13:08:24 <V453000> yeah, the steel mill is really ridiculous :) 13:08:36 <V453000> Ricaz: set max_aircraft 0 13:09:04 <drac_boy> ricaz just set it to zero, that disables airports as well unless you had that (forgot exact label) 'enable stations without vehicles' option on 13:11:16 <drac_boy> V453000 btw just asking but do you think a steel mill should be able to work with only ore alone but have better output when coal is also added as well? 13:11:23 <drac_boy> just in theory that is 13:12:25 <V453000> I do not quite know, I think it is great how firs does it - if you deliver both, you get a reward of more steel. If you deliver just one, you dont 13:12:39 <V453000> but making it totally require some X:Y of cargoes is quite stupid 13:13:12 <drac_boy> heh yeah I agree, having mutal 1-or-1+1=out is better than a rigid 1+1=out 13:13:41 <V453000> but it depends a lot, some people love to manage train counts etc 13:14:07 <V453000> I for example rather develop some mechanism which makes the network more automated and fail-proof 13:21:29 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-021-144.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 13:23:22 <drac_boy> hmm just wondering but is there no deutsch term for the like of 'hopper wagon' or similar? for coal etc yeah 13:42:31 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:51:38 *** cl8` [~cl88@host-92-3-233-240.as43234.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:53:10 <michi_cc> drac_boy: Official generic term: "Offene GÃŒterwagen mit Schwerkraftentladung", with specialisation of Trichterwagen, Sattelwagen and Seitenkippbare Wagen. 13:54:13 <michi_cc> A coal hopper would normally be a Sattelwagen (== contents can only be dumped at whole). 13:57:22 <drac_boy> thanks michi_cc the terms Trichterwagen and Sattelwagen were what I was trying to look for, cheers :) 14:03:41 <lugo> i'm puzzled, how did handrake get his patchpack to compile 14:05:04 <lugo> throws erros for me on linux and win32 14:09:27 <andythenorth> ottd src is available in git and svn and hg? 14:10:34 <frosch123> trunk is available in those three, yes 14:10:49 <frosch123> branches and releases are only svn 14:12:56 <andythenorth> how are they synchronised? 14:13:03 <andythenorth> in say...two line explanation? 14:13:16 <frosch123> svn is the master 14:13:28 <frosch123> the rest pulls from svn 14:14:20 <frosch123> there are various svn->hg and svn->git bridges. no idea which ones ottd uses 14:14:43 <andythenorth> is there a cron job or commit hook or such? 14:14:46 <frosch123> but they are triggered by the svn post commit hook 14:15:07 <drac_boy> allright looks like my initial vehicles list is much smaller...thats much better 14:18:06 <andythenorth> SAC has such an ability to unintentionally make dramas 14:18:17 <michi_cc> Branches and releases are available in my personal git copy, but indeed not in the "official" git repo. 14:18:52 <frosch123> andythenorth: the post commit hook triggers all kind of stuff: hg, git, wt3, cia, dorpsgek, ... 14:18:58 <andythenorth> k thanks 14:19:23 <frosch123> oh, and the regression compile farm ofc 14:19:58 <oskari89> Are there any drawers lurking around? 14:20:07 <drac_boy> what kind of drawers? 14:20:13 <oskari89> Locomotive :) 14:20:49 <andythenorth> I have some drawers in my cabinet 14:20:57 <andythenorth> and in my kitchen 14:20:57 <drac_boy> oskari hm well which kind? 14:21:01 <drac_boy> andythenorth lol 14:22:05 <oskari89> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=21457&p=1006020#p1006020 14:22:26 <oskari89> The second one, KDh1 needs a little shading and corrections :P 14:22:35 <oskari89> Sources: http://loks-aus-kiel.de/index.php?nav=1400803&lang=1&file=mak_2000001_52&action=image&position=1 14:22:43 <oskari89> And http://loks-aus-kiel.de/index.php?nav=1400803&lang=1&id=12742&action=portrait 14:24:18 <oskari89> drac_boy: Could you help me on that? 14:24:22 <drac_boy> I'll admit it looks a bit strange like it has fat ends 14:25:04 <drac_boy> and hmm not sure I could help much for the next few days sorry. if you still can't find anyone else by then I could look at it 14:25:18 <oskari89> Ok. 14:25:23 <oskari89> Anyone else? 14:25:31 <oskari89> :) 14:27:06 <drac_boy> was that thing supposed to be some sort of single-unit mainline freight locomotive? 14:27:13 <drac_boy> since theres no platforms or anything 14:28:12 <drac_boy> btw the KDh2 shunting locomotive is kinda my favorite kind of locomotive...something about them looking happy at any task small or large :) 14:28:22 <drac_boy> not to mention less of that many of them were hydraulic too :p 14:32:51 <drac_boy> oskari89 that reminds me, do you have the Dv-something (or was it another letter?) diesel-hydraulic B'B' locomotive that was last year finally all removed for good? 14:33:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i need a setting: "if more than X days late, skip one roundtrip" 14:33:32 * drac_boy remember seeing it in the Today's Railway Europe magazine at some point 14:33:45 <drac_boy> heh eddi still stuck up with that same problem yet? 14:34:04 <Eddi|zuHause> well, not this exact problem, but a generic one 14:34:17 <drac_boy> mm 14:36:56 <drac_boy> oskari89 yeah I found it.. Dv12 and a quick check of page 23 suggests you apparently have it 14:37:54 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 14:42:13 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.114.232.180.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 14:42:37 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-23-20.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 14:42:54 *** valhalla2w [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 14:43:26 *** Nat_aS [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43:55 <drac_boy> oskari89 is there like a tracking table yet? 14:44:00 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:47:22 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:47:40 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:47:52 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-61-40.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:04:13 <oskari89> Yes there is. 15:04:26 <oskari89> http://users.tt-forums.net/finnish/Vehicles.html 15:06:28 <drac_boy> looking now :) 15:06:37 <oskari89> Dv12's are nearly all going yet :) 15:07:34 <oskari89> Only about 10 of original 192 are scrapped now :P 15:08:36 <oskari89> But Dv16 has been removed few years back, was it 2009 or so.. 15:08:51 <oskari89> Only one exists for museum service :P 15:08:55 <drac_boy> I kind of liked them but then it may be more to do with me liking anything between 2ft to 4ft as long as its capable basically 15:09:06 <oskari89> It was 2008. 15:09:31 <drac_boy> well...I do admit that there are some private gauges that are just a little over 4ft but they're very rare so not bothered :P 15:09:45 *** Firartix [~artixds@www.clubnix.fr] has joined #openttd 15:10:46 <drac_boy> I see you have a nice variety of steamers for 1920+ .. not too bad :) 15:10:59 <oskari89> Yes and diesels too :) 15:12:08 <drac_boy> btw I may have been thinking of the Dv16 ..but to me they look so identical tho :) 15:12:32 <drac_boy> the photo they showed in the magazine was of a locomotive 'train' .. with only one under power. heading for scrap I guess 15:12:54 <oskari89> Hmm, wait a sec.. 15:14:01 <oskari89> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nihBA481mhQ These were Dv12 :P 15:15:01 <drac_boy> from a quick look at the freight wagon list I assume that its not completed without using some of the original wagons as fill-in yet? 15:15:55 <oskari89> Well, Freight gets some stuff yet :P 15:16:08 <drac_boy> heh :) 15:17:16 <oskari89> And so do electrics.. 15:17:31 <oskari89> Some planned but not built stuff :) 15:17:52 <oskari89> http://users.tt-forums.net/finnish/friss.html On the infra-side, there's a little more to do :) 15:18:01 <drac_boy> mm I might give it a try when theres enough to build a railroad with allright? :) 15:19:01 <drac_boy> ah well the stations and tracks always can wait a bit longer..just use newstat in its place for now 15:19:11 <drac_boy> not a perfect idea I know but...trains first :P 15:19:18 <oskari89> Yes that is true. 15:19:25 <oskari89> But there's already tracks available :) 15:19:39 <oskari89> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=43560 15:19:51 <oskari89> And signals too. 15:20:05 <drac_boy> :) 15:21:50 <oskari89> And FooBar does code those interlocking and station buildings after a while.. 15:22:24 <oskari89> Just waiting for as to release grf which he has been coding.. 15:22:57 <oskari89> (Finnish Trainset) 15:23:35 <drac_boy> michi_cc you still around btw? 15:26:57 <michi_cc> No :) 15:30:12 <drac_boy> heh 15:31:00 <drac_boy> michi_cc if you don't mind a second request. would it had been Expresszug or a different one for high speed trains in general? (not just ICE .. i always did wonder why they used an english name there) 15:32:26 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-106-52-117.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33:13 <michi_cc> The generic term in the past was Schnellzug, but that doesn't mean they were high-speed in today's sense, just the fastest kind of trains back then. 15:34:19 <Alberth> as usual with advertising :) 15:35:14 <drac_boy> michi_cc heh well thats what I really needed still. thanks :) 15:39:32 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: english was considered "fancy" when they introduced them 15:40:06 *** Firartix [~artixds@www.clubnix.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:13 <oskari89> Fancy is currenly "in" in VR :P 15:47:20 <drac_boy> think I'm going take another break from this table soon 15:47:29 <oskari89> *fancy english 15:48:17 <oskari89> Such as 1st class/Business class -> Ekstra (Extra), and 2nd class -> Eko (Economy)... 15:48:29 <oskari89> *sigh* 15:48:51 <oskari89> Why it can't be just 1st and 2nd class.. 15:48:55 <oskari89> :P 15:49:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19439.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:49:59 <drac_boy> heh no idea :) 15:51:54 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 15:52:57 <drac_boy> oskari89 btw what would you consider proper 'class' if it was your own train creations? 15:53:01 <drac_boy> just wondering ;) 15:53:35 <oskari89> Well, that depends what i would be creating :) 15:53:41 <drac_boy> for me it would be like this... 15:54:25 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:55:22 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:25 <drac_boy> economy = cloth seat with reasonable cushions and decent leg spaces .... table = same as economy but facing seats with fixed table in middle obviously ... luxury = leather seats with deep cushions of some sort and additional services from conductor discreetly 15:55:31 <drac_boy> :) 15:56:49 <oskari89> Ok, i don't know what if it was my own.. :P 16:04:28 <drac_boy> I'm going for lunch so bye :p 16:04:31 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176111076.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 16:11:24 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 16:14:07 <andythenorth> planetmaker: for example we could probably fix this one if we both looked at it: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3085 16:14:20 <andythenorth> my guess is it's just a small logical error somewhere 16:16:05 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 16:22:43 *** cl8 [~cl88@host-92-3-233-240.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 16:27:16 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: could be returning a 0 in the wrong place? 16:27:22 <andythenorth> that's my guess 16:27:33 <andythenorth> I can't get my brain around the nested conditions yet 16:27:43 <andythenorth> not enough codeine today :P 16:30:18 <andythenorth> I don't take it for more than a day without another day's break 16:30:24 <andythenorth> because I don't want to be dependent 16:30:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think that's how it works :p 16:30:31 <andythenorth> and when I don't take it, I can't function :P 16:31:09 <andythenorth> how do you spell 'dependent' again? :P 16:31:55 <andythenorth> my friend slipped two discs in his back due to working long shifts at [unnamed electronic game making monlith] 16:32:09 <andythenorth> he was addicted to morphine for 18 months and needed methadone to get off it 16:32:19 * andythenorth doesn't fancy that much 16:34:49 <supermop> funny you should bring that up andythenorth, i've had golden brown by the stranglers stuck in my head all day 16:36:34 *** cl8` [~cl88@host-92-11-59-194.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 16:38:10 *** cl8 [~cl88@host-92-3-233-240.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:38:37 <andythenorth> now I will too :P 16:41:33 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:50:21 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:54:27 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.114.232.180.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:57:37 *** cl8__ [~cl88@host-92-3-244-85.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 17:00:26 *** cl8` [~cl88@host-92-11-59-194.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:44 *** Endymion_Mallorn [~pplgoldbl@ool-4579e3ca.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 17:06:46 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:22 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:11:36 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-106-52-117.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 17:13:14 *** Endymion_Mallorn [~pplgoldbl@ool-4579e3ca.dyn.optonline.net] has left #openttd [] 17:15:51 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-92-151.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 17:30:36 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.114.232.180.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 17:32:08 <andythenorth> can a CC-BY-NC-ND grf be placed on bananas by someone other than original author? 17:32:12 * andythenorth should just read ToS 17:32:13 <andythenorth> :P 17:32:38 <andythenorth> 1. seems to cover it :P 17:33:17 <Rubidium> exactly ;) 17:33:56 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host139-62-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:34:06 <Wolf01> hello 17:39:05 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db0e9ca.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:48 <andythenorth> stupid INFRA related dramas yet again 17:40:26 <planetmaker> INFRA. not ULTRA 17:41:12 *** cl8__ [~cl88@host-92-3-244-85.as43234.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24097 /trunk/src/lang/latvian.txt: 17:41:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:41:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 14 changes by Parastais 17:44:38 <Wolf01> <andythenorth> stupid INFRA related dramas yet again <- no, not again... 17:56:34 *** cl8 [~cl88@host-92-11-62-13.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 17:57:08 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-102-230.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 17:57:58 <andythenorth> hmm 17:58:04 <andythenorth> I don't have rights to edit a typo here http://wiki.openttd.org/Todo_list 17:58:11 <andythenorth> 'server' not 'sever' 17:59:18 <planetmaker> fixed 17:59:55 <planetmaker> and indeed: it's a somewhat write-protected wiki page :-) 18:02:42 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-108-89.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:02:54 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.114.232.180.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:04:27 <frosch123> pff, updating 6 monhts of widelands repo pulls 160 MB 18:11:50 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-178-000-005-077.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:11:56 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-101-2.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:13:11 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 18:15:02 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@79-74-234-8.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:16:41 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-102-230.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:59 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-107-14.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:19:38 <planetmaker> people really don't understand how newgrfs and savegames work. and how bananas work. Not even mods like Hyronymus 18:19:58 <andythenorth> there's quite a bit some mods don't understand :P 18:20:02 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-101-2.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:20:05 <FLHerne> How do they work then? :P 18:20:10 <andythenorth> there's quite a bit andythenorth doesn't understand too though :D 18:20:21 <planetmaker> there's a lot I don't understand, too ;-) 18:20:52 <Pikka> you can't tell the difference between margarine 18:21:00 <planetmaker> FLHerne: for once: NewGRFs are part of a savegame and cannot be removed therefrom. Thus every newgrf should remain available in every version released once 18:21:08 <planetmaker> to be able to load that savegame henceforth 18:21:42 <planetmaker> you'll always need the very exact same version to ensure successful loading. Updated NewGRFs won't cut it 18:22:00 <planetmaker> I don't even trust myself to successfully declare compatibility there ;-) 18:22:05 <planetmaker> without failure ever 18:22:32 <planetmaker> for 2nd, bananas offers those old versions only when needed by a savegame. Otherwise you always get the newest 18:22:46 <andythenorth> planetmaker: I'm about to reply in that thread 18:22:51 <planetmaker> I won't 18:22:54 <andythenorth> but maybe it is about to require a split :P 18:23:19 <frosch123> post a topic in the forum suggestions: ban sac and all of her content :p 18:23:33 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 18:23:50 <planetmaker> hard-code "disable newgrf" for those IDs :-P 18:24:03 <Pikka> maybe it's about to require being wrapped in chains and thown off a ship in the middle of the atlantic ocean at 3am, andythenorth 18:24:22 <frosch123> 3am only? 18:24:30 <Pikka> it's the best time 18:24:34 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@79-74-234-8.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:24:39 <Pikka> others will do at a pinch 18:26:07 <planetmaker> but I replied ;-) 18:27:26 <andythenorth> the simple fact of improving Bananas is "It can't be done" 18:27:33 <andythenorth> there is no repeatable build for it 18:27:41 <andythenorth> no staging environment 18:27:45 <andythenorth> no development environment 18:27:52 <andythenorth> little chance of building one realistically 18:28:02 <planetmaker> I mostly think she's totally unaware that bananas website is not what it's about. And never saw the search button in the newgrf list to search for keywords 18:28:15 <planetmaker> from ingame 18:28:21 <andythenorth> oh I ignore SAC mostly, except when she's driving a bus through what licenses mean 18:28:22 <planetmaker> like 'planes' and I get all aircraft newgrf 18:28:36 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-107-14.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:28:38 <andythenorth> hyronymous is the target of my comments wrt bananas 18:28:47 <planetmaker> or 'NARS' or 'Pikka' to get those or whatever 18:28:47 <andythenorth> SAC is as SAC does 18:28:49 <planetmaker> :-) 18:28:56 <andythenorth> pikka pikka pikka pikka 18:29:06 <andythenorth> :P 18:29:15 <Pikka> if orudge hadn't posted in the thread I'd have hit the "everyone back to their own beds" button long ago 18:29:24 <frosch123> yeah, but the search has no option to exclude certain keywords 18:29:27 <frosch123> like !andy 18:29:43 <andythenorth> anyway, this is not getting any revenue-earning or cost-saving work done at 7.30pm on a bank holiday 18:29:54 * andythenorth goes back to pondering customer records and improved GUIs 18:29:55 <andythenorth> :P 18:30:23 <andythenorth> SAC is an 'artist' 18:30:42 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.69.226] has joined #openttd 18:30:44 <andythenorth> therefore it has to be excused, that for, example, she can't understand things (licenses) 18:30:48 <planetmaker> should go on-stage. 18:30:56 <planetmaker> Greek tragedy. 18:31:09 <andythenorth> why does she use her own site? Instead of DeviantArt with all the other emo-drama people? 18:31:18 * andythenorth is being mean, that's actually bad 18:31:22 <andythenorth> kittens will die 18:31:38 * andythenorth doesn't like being mean, it tastes all wrong 18:31:50 <Pikka> but so fun 18:32:05 <andythenorth> oh good MB turned up in the thread :) 18:32:11 <andythenorth> now all we need is DaleStan 18:32:14 <Pikka> perhaps we should have a rule that nothing gets posted in the "graphics release" forum unless it's on bananas 18:32:26 <andythenorth> can we also make it GPL? :P 18:32:31 <andythenorth> oh noes, you broke that one :P 18:32:31 <planetmaker> *That* actually is a good idea, pikka 18:32:32 <Pikka> no 18:32:41 <Pikka> GPL is silly andy 18:32:48 <andythenorth> can we make it 'GPL unless you're Pikka' ? 18:33:01 <andythenorth> yours are the only grfs with an excuse 18:33:08 <planetmaker> without 18:33:13 <planetmaker> :-P 18:33:16 <andythenorth> nah, he violates copyright 18:33:21 <Pikka> because I shamelessly rip bits of the TTD graphics, yes 18:33:22 <planetmaker> so would george 18:33:22 <andythenorth> pointless doing GPL 18:33:33 <Pikka> still, doesn't stop some people 18:33:42 <andythenorth> anyways.... 18:33:55 <planetmaker> thus he has a very valid excuse, too 18:34:07 <planetmaker> and we have no excuse to keep openttd.grf 18:34:17 <Pikka> anyways 18:34:26 *** Ricaz [~Ricaz@nobelnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:34:46 *** Ricaz [Ricaz@31.6.35.199] has joined #openttd 18:41:21 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:44:03 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-178-000-005-077.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47:09 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:21 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 18:54:09 *** Ricaz [Ricaz@31.6.35.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:54:10 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.86.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:27 * andythenorth contemplates uploading this new foundations thing to his own site 19:01:33 <andythenorth> just for amusant 19:01:48 <Pikka> silly 19:01:58 <Pikka> anyway, should I lock the thread? 19:02:07 <Pikka> that way I get to have the last word har har 19:02:16 <andythenorth> poor old PaulC 19:02:20 <andythenorth> he's a sound chap 19:02:33 <andythenorth> he doesn't deserve this :) 19:02:45 <Pikka> oh well 19:02:48 <Pikka> next time he'll know 19:02:49 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.166] has joined #openttd 19:03:44 <andythenorth> if you lock it, all kinds of drama :) 19:03:59 <andythenorth> anyway, I thought SAC had already said 'goodbye' to tt-forums at least once 19:04:05 <Pikka> probably 19:04:15 <Pikka> drama from whom, though? 19:04:27 <andythenorth> dramatis personae 19:04:37 <Pikka> oh well 19:04:43 <Pikka> it's only going to go downhill no matter what 19:05:02 <andythenorth> it's not really a release is it, if you have to go somewhere and register 19:05:07 <Pikka> no 19:05:26 <andythenorth> it's more like an advert 19:05:29 <andythenorth> for a members only service 19:05:36 <andythenorth> and they're probably banned, as spam :) 19:05:54 <Pikka> well I wouldn't go that far. 19:06:10 <andythenorth> this is why I will never be a mod 19:06:15 <andythenorth> I lack diplomacy :P 19:06:18 <andythenorth> or reason 19:07:24 <andythenorth> also squirrels 19:07:28 <andythenorth> I lack squirrels 19:07:59 <andythenorth> one came in the garden the other day, but that was uncommon 19:08:23 <Pikka> an uncommon squirrel 19:08:26 <Pikka> how rare 19:09:15 <andythenorth> yes 19:09:23 <andythenorth> rare is almost a synonym for uncommon 19:09:28 <andythenorth> almost, but not always 19:10:07 <andythenorth> for those who are not native English speakers, please don't order an uncommon steak 19:10:15 <andythenorth> I thought I should mention that, as a service 19:10:34 <andythenorth> also, really WTF 19:13:40 <Alberth> andythenorth: with an invalid license, the whole license becomes invalid, so sac has no rights anymore whatsoever 19:13:56 <Alberth> s/license/CC rule/ 19:14:16 <Pikka> what Alberth 19:15:00 <andythenorth> nah 19:15:05 <andythenorth> I thought that first, but it's not true 19:15:13 <andythenorth> rights of copyright holder are upheld 19:15:17 <Pikka> I'm pretty sure if she owns the copyright and the licence is invalid, that no-one except SAC has any rights whatsoever. 19:15:21 <andythenorth> everyone else is potentially violating copyright 19:15:43 <andythenorth> oh what larfs 19:15:44 <Alberth> ah, that makes sense, didn't think of that 19:15:49 <andythenorth> none of this gets pixels drawn :) 19:16:10 <Alberth> neither does my text get longer or better :) 19:16:22 <Alberth> let's go to work instead :) 19:17:21 * andythenorth does 19:18:08 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 19:18:23 <Pikka> boo, I got bumped to page 3 19:20:41 <Pikka> the tone was definitely turning nasty though 19:20:47 <Pikka> I await PMs :) 19:20:53 <andythenorth> I used smilies :) 19:21:11 <andythenorth> not enough smiley use in the world imo 19:21:13 <Pikka> smileys make everything okay :) 19:21:34 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-102-97.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:27:34 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-14-2.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:32:51 <planetmaker> 21:24 andythenorth: not enough smiley use in the world imo <-- oh yes, you're sadly so right 19:32:59 <andythenorth> :) 19:32:59 <planetmaker> :-) 19:36:50 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.114.232.180.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 19:58:04 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-106-52-117.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:02:06 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:03:23 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:05:07 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-194-165.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:06:18 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable085.125-161-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:06:20 <drac_boy> hi 20:08:17 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:02 * Rubidium wonders whether drac_boy lives near Montreal 20:12:08 <drac_boy> if you don't mind a 2-6 hours drive at times theres probably your answer? :) 20:13:33 <Rubidium> so that's a no ;) 20:13:38 <drac_boy> how're you anyway? :P 20:14:49 <Rubidium> I'm fine 20:15:22 <Rubidium> in 2 hours you can get to roughly 90% of my country from my home by car 20:15:51 <drac_boy> heh small country in the middle of big countries I take it? :) 20:17:07 <Alberth> fast car :) 20:17:11 <Rubidium> south is smaller, east is bigger, west and north are significantly wetter and mostly populated by fish (and lost fossil fuel drilling platforms) 20:20:02 <MNIM> the netherlands? 20:20:39 <Rubidium> douze pointe 20:21:35 *** Devroush [~dennis@83.101.84.199] has joined #openttd 20:22:00 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:22:08 <supermop> hi 20:23:06 <drac_boy> humm got a locomotive related question as usual... 20:24:11 <drac_boy> for electric locomotives that have coupled trucks (with the chassis just simply floating on top) instead would it had been considered a BB or B'B'? 20:25:09 <planetmaker> hi supermop 20:25:19 <drac_boy> hi plant-creator ;) heh heh 20:25:27 <drac_boy> just joking :p 20:26:08 <supermop> i just bought a bike 20:27:00 * andythenorth does win at working 20:27:15 <supermop> pretty sure im going to die on this thing 20:27:23 <drac_boy> heh 20:27:25 <andythenorth> pedal or motor? 20:27:49 <supermop> a track bike 20:27:53 <supermop> bianchi pista 20:28:13 <supermop> i am thinking of getting a early 70s honda CL though 20:29:41 <supermop> but i don't have a motorcycle license or garage at the moment so its a chicken and egg problem 20:35:58 *** cl8` [~cl88@host-92-3-229-28.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 20:37:31 *** cl8 [~cl88@host-92-11-62-13.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:03 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@189.114.232.180.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 20:44:36 *** sla_ro|vista [~slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 20:46:41 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.114.232.180.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:49:15 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:04:30 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:09:45 <frosch123> night 21:09:48 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009250.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12:30 <Rhamphoryncus> Anybody know what last_computed_result does? Is it the decision-expression of the current switch? 21:19:42 <oskari89> Wha, did/does SAC's stolen trees disappear from BaNaNaS? 21:31:10 *** valhalla2w [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:31:15 <oskari89> I think that to meet SAC's demands for "correct BaNaNas", the window could have integrated GRFCrawler window or so.. 21:34:09 <oskari89> Or could have subcategories drop-menu, which are defined when someone uploads them on BaNaNaS.. 21:35:54 <Wolf01> 'night 21:36:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host139-62-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:41:35 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@213-186-253-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:44:25 *** cl8` [~cl88@host-92-3-229-28.as43234.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:46:41 *** cl8 [~cl88@host-92-3-234-155.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 21:56:24 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 21:56:56 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:31 <Terkhen> good night 22:07:15 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@189.114.232.180.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:06 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-158-199-160.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 12.0/20120403211507]] 22:16:12 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:29:58 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 22:32:21 *** NOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-93-103.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 22:33:55 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable085.125-161-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 22:34:13 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-23-20.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:27 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:46:26 *** NOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-93-103.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:57:55 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db0e9ca.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us] 23:06:51 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 23:11:08 *** Devroush [~dennis@83.101.84.199] has quit [] 23:13:49 <Eddi|zuHause> <drac_boy> for electric locomotives that have coupled trucks (with the chassis just simply floating on top) instead would it had been considered a BB or B'B'? <- BB if fixed, B'B' if movable, B+B if separable 23:14:04 <Eddi|zuHause> damn, he's already gone 23:22:53 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable085.125-161-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 23:22:55 <drac_boy> hi 23:32:17 <drac_boy> is it about 1kW=1.36hp or does the game use a different ratio internally? 23:53:37 <drac_boy> assuming so then