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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 06:36:57 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:41:56 *** mal2__ [~mal2@port-92-206-228-222.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 06:44:51 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 06:48:51 <Markk> Goedemorgen 06:49:03 <telanus> goedemorgen 06:49:38 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:50:04 <Markk> Alles goed? :) 06:54:23 <NGC3982> is that dutch? 06:54:39 <NGC3982> ive recently noticed how extremely similar dutch and swedish is. 06:54:44 <Markk> Yep, it is. 06:55:01 <Markk> Swedish and Dutch is much more similar than Swedish and German. 06:55:08 <NGC3982> goedemorgen > god morgon. alles goed > allt gott, for instance. 06:55:09 <NGC3982> yes, indeed 06:55:17 <NGC3982> most swedes are unaware of it 06:55:20 <Markk> Yep 06:55:29 <NGC3982> oh wait, its you 06:55:31 <NGC3982> didnt read the nick 06:55:33 <NGC3982> hej Markk :D 06:55:35 <Markk> Oi :) 06:56:51 <Markk> Varför nickar du NGC3982? 06:57:55 <NGC3982> not trying to be too spread out with my usual nick 06:58:09 <NGC3982> i need to work a bit of damage control on my integrity 06:58:12 <NGC3982> im all over the internet :/ 06:59:59 <Markk> ah 07:08:17 <telanus> :D 07:08:34 <telanus> dutch is cloe to Afrikaans too 07:08:41 <telanus> close* 07:10:29 <NGC3982> i would say the other way around 07:10:51 <Markk> telanus: No wonder. :) 07:10:54 <NGC3982> isnt afrikaans built on the colonial powers? 07:11:18 <NGC3982> seventeen century dutch-ish 07:11:21 <NGC3982> or something 07:11:22 <Markk> It's dutch from the beginning. 07:11:38 <Markk> I don't know if it's like Danish and Swedish or Swedish and Norwegian. 07:12:08 <NGC3982> well, afrikaans should exist simply by the fact of dutch people combining local linguistics with dutch. 07:12:11 <NGC3982> i guess 07:12:18 <Markk> yer 07:15:09 <telanus> NGC3982: Yip Afrikaans was once called Kitchen Dutch 07:15:55 <Markk> :D 07:16:12 <NGC3982> haha 07:16:13 *** mal2__ [~mal2@port-92-206-228-222.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:16:13 <NGC3982> neat. 07:16:27 <NGC3982> its like the swedish skånska dialect 07:16:46 <NGC3982> (should also move to africa) 07:17:41 <telanus> Our language guru's try and keep it close to the Dutch way of speaking. 07:18:02 <telanus> But don't really think they are succeeding 07:18:10 <NGC3982> ok 07:18:30 <NGC3982> is afrikaans a bit unpopular in dutch regions, or what? 07:19:45 <telanus> don't know. But I know the Dutch normally smile when they hear us speak 07:22:00 <NGC3982> ah, i see 07:22:13 <NGC3982> the dutch arent the most violent of people 07:29:07 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:30:34 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:11:41 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 08:44:49 *** telanus1 [~Barney_Er@196-210-244-73.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 08:46:00 *** peter1138 [~petern@84.246.159.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:50:52 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-244-73.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:28:22 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 09:49:26 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable133.8-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 09:49:35 <drac_boy> hi 09:59:03 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:00:12 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 10:00:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 10:07:14 <NGC3982> drac_boy: o/ 10:08:03 <drac_boy> hi NGC3982? :) 10:10:02 <NGC3982> drac_boy: zup g! :) 10:10:11 <drac_boy> how're you? 10:11:15 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.151.112] has joined #openttd 10:12:19 <NGC3982> tis' be neat. having lunch with my customer service. 10:16:48 <drac_boy> heh ok 10:22:09 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.90.68] has joined #openttd 10:25:39 *** Hazzard [~7c418246@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:30:35 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable133.8-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 10:39:26 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-89-176-205-226.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:40:21 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:56:22 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 10:56:22 *** George is now known as Guest1833 10:56:23 *** George|2 is now known as George 10:58:25 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 11:02:12 *** Guest1833 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:22:54 *** hackalittlebit [57c46e29@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:24:29 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-21.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 11:25:28 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 11:37:06 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-21.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:56:27 *** Hazzard [~7c418246@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:01:39 *** hackalittlebit [57c46e29@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 12:05:03 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4df7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:05:13 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 12:19:28 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3cb2:1aa6:bcef:a232] has joined #openttd 12:19:31 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:28:09 *** George is now known as Guest1842 12:28:13 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 12:34:06 *** Guest1842 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:36:01 *** hackalittlebit [57c46e29@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:37:25 <hackalittlebit> default option looks nice :) 12:39:44 <hackalittlebit> s/ [ln 3075 && ln 3803] / [ln 3075 || ln 3803] / train_cmd.cpp r1198 (overkill ??) 12:51:39 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-89-176-205-226.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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17:03:57 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-244-73.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 17:04:29 <Terkhen> if by good you mean scorching hot then yes :) 17:05:23 <Terkhen> same temperature as in Granada, even if Madrid is more at the north 17:09:03 <frosch123> i see, three degree more than here :) 17:14:41 <Terkhen> it will get worse :P 17:16:41 <frosch123> i hope you have a casual dress code at work :) 17:19:53 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:20:20 *** Doorslammer [7da861ac@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 17:20:21 <planetmaker> :-D 17:20:32 <planetmaker> hi terkhen, andy 17:20:56 * andythenorth enforces a dress code 17:20:59 <andythenorth> "dress like you care" 17:21:27 <frosch123> i hopes it does not continue with "... and pay for the consequences" :p 17:23:14 <Terkhen> :) 17:25:07 <planetmaker> :-) 17:28:50 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:30:04 *** Aciid [aciid@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:10 *** Warod [warod@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:37:41 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: translators * r24301 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) 17:37:41 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:37:41 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: catalan - 1 changes by mtormo 17:37:41 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: czech - 22 changes by RabbRubbish 17:37:41 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: danish - 2 changes by beruic 17:37:42 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: german - 218 changes by NG 17:37:42 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: italian - 1 changes by lorenzodv 17:37:42 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 17:39:11 *** Aciid [aciid@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 17:40:12 * telanus really need free time to update the Afrikaans translation 17:40:35 <Terkhen> just do a few strings everyday :) 17:40:58 <telanus> :-D 17:41:12 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 17:41:15 *** Warod [warod@kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 17:45:06 <frosch123> yeah, just like we add a few strings every day :p 17:45:19 <frosch123> btw. Terkhen, spanish is again incomplete :p 17:46:22 <Terkhen> done :) 17:46:24 <Terkhen> thanks 17:46:39 <frosch123> :) 17:47:48 <frosch123> telanus: i hope the majority of the new strings contain at least some interesting stuff to know :) 17:50:43 <telanus> :D 18:04:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has joined #openttd 18:05:13 <Wolf01> 'quakening 18:07:37 <Terkhen> hi Wolf01 18:10:00 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-068-034.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 18:14:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:15:17 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-080-116.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:44 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-170-044.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 18:17:23 <Nat_aS> UGH 18:17:39 <Nat_aS> why wont daimonds be profitable with anything other than a direct air-route? 18:18:05 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-068-034.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:12 <V453000> they are? 18:18:36 <V453000> I rather wonder how could they ever not be profittable as they cant decay? 18:18:40 <frosch123> if you have expensive trains and rvs, and cheap aircraft, maybe :) 18:19:10 <Nat_aS> I have a train from the mine to the station, and then a truck to the bank 18:19:17 <Nat_aS> and the truck loses me money 18:19:21 <V453000> which train set 18:19:33 <Nat_aS> the train might also be losing me money, BUT it's mainly a coper ore train 18:19:39 <Nat_aS> with two diamond cars 18:19:39 <frosch123> Nat_aS: then change the payment leg percentage to something lower 18:19:41 <Nat_aS> Tropic 18:20:23 <V453000> well if only the truck is losing money, it is probably not transfering it any closer than it already was by the station, or something like that 18:20:32 <V453000> if it goes to the opposite direction, transfer loses money 18:20:44 <V453000> or ... only the vehicles which go the opposite direction, ofc 18:21:07 <Nat_aS> oh, lowered it from 100 to 50% 18:21:11 <Nat_aS> now it's earning money 18:21:14 <V453000> oh :D 18:21:27 <Nat_aS> Technicaly the station is farther away from the bank than the mine 18:21:38 <Nat_aS> but it's the best I can do 18:21:49 <V453000> well if one vehicle got 100% and the other got the rest, you can tell how much could it profit 18:22:01 <Nat_aS> This reigon on the map is the part I saved for last, becasue the terrain is really inconveniant 18:22:33 <Nat_aS> and most of the time I transport daimonds by air 18:22:45 <Nat_aS> because AV8 has c130s and C17s 18:22:48 <Nat_aS> which is awesome 18:23:00 <Nat_aS> and perfect for moving diamonds. 18:27:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:37:29 <Nat_aS> There should be a lifetime profit display for trains 18:37:47 <Nat_aS> that includes the cost of creating that train, as well as refits and such 18:40:45 <andythenorth> there should be a pink unicorn :) 18:41:04 <opa> unicorn train set would be nice 18:41:28 <Nat_aS> Actualy andy 18:41:33 <Nat_aS> a truck set would be really nice 18:41:55 <andythenorth> ho 18:42:00 <Nat_aS> because HEQS is nice, but has no trucks, so I load it with EGRVTS, and that causes my depot menu to be overfull 18:42:08 <opa> one unicorn could carry 1 ton of diamonds? 18:42:18 <andythenorth> unicorns carry truffles 18:42:23 <Nat_aS> a truck set that is desiged to be used with HEQS would be perfect 18:42:30 <Zuu> Oh, forum has been fixed so that I don't need to add double backslashes before posting :-) 18:42:35 <Nat_aS> because it's silly to have tractors carry goods to market 18:42:41 <Zuu> Eg. when posting windows paths :-) 18:42:49 <Terkhen> try OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles :P 18:43:03 <Terkhen> my power/speed adjustments received no feedback :( 18:43:12 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=46297 18:43:44 <andythenorth> BANDIT is currently stuck 18:43:54 <andythenorth> due to problems I can't / won't overcome :P 18:44:02 <Nat_aS> yeah, I was aware at that, it was a jab at you 18:44:05 <Nat_aS> and what problems/ 18:44:35 <andythenorth> can't make it work on the compile farm 18:44:45 <Nat_aS> why? 18:44:48 <andythenorth> don't know 18:44:51 <andythenorth> haven't tried to debug it 18:44:53 <Nat_aS> what's diffrent about it 18:45:02 <Nat_aS> that sucks 18:45:03 <andythenorth> don't know 18:45:17 <andythenorth> I'd need to get cf ssh access and such 18:45:21 <andythenorth> then spend time looking 18:45:25 <andythenorth> then figure out the fix 18:45:26 <andythenorth> then fix 18:45:32 <andythenorth> [shrug] 18:45:37 <andythenorth> real life happening 18:48:46 <andythenorth> we all seem to have stuck projects right now 18:49:59 <Terkhen> I managed to unstuck one of mine :P 18:50:21 <Terkhen> well, two if you count ogfx-rv, but it is getting stuck again quite fast 18:51:45 * frosch123 watches a chicken and an egg 18:52:03 <Knogle> GSCompany::BuildCompanyHQ: An HQ can not be removed, only by water or rebuilding; If an HQ is build again, the old one is removed <- does that mean you can remove a HQ by building it on water? 18:52:04 <Knogle> :P 18:52:07 <andythenorth> planetmaker has a new build framework but I have no time to test it :P 18:52:17 <andythenorth> Terkhen has an updated grf but no-one to test it :P 18:52:18 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:44 <Terkhen> no one is interested I guess 18:52:48 <Terkhen> road vehicles = no interest 18:52:49 <andythenorth> alberth has a translator app, but no-one to test it 18:52:52 <Terkhen> default = no interest 18:52:54 <frosch123> Knogle: yes, but you have to clear the water shortly before 18:52:58 <Terkhen> if you mix both... :P 18:53:00 * andythenorth has a truck set that won't compile :P 18:53:13 <planetmaker> hm... so many things to do 18:53:14 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:22 <Knogle> frosch123: Interesting... 18:53:49 <andythenorth> mostly I am grepping 49323 python files right now 18:53:55 <frosch123> andythenorth: Terkhen: planetmaker: playing with nuts is fun though :p 18:54:11 <Knogle> There should be an easier way to do it tho, especially if you make a gamescript where you claim towns and it's already been claimed. 18:54:22 * Knogle goes to test it anyway 18:55:19 <planetmaker> has a crappy license, though 18:56:51 <Nat_aS> god Egrvts is retarted 18:56:58 <Nat_aS> so many trucks that look exactly the same 18:57:03 <Nat_aS> Fffffffffsssss 18:57:04 <andythenorth> hmm 18:57:09 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 18:57:15 * andythenorth mentions ingratitude 18:57:48 <andythenorth> it's free, quite well drawn, what's not to like? 18:57:51 * planetmaker wonders where Nat_aS has made a less retarted (sic!) one 18:57:59 <andythenorth> for a long long time it was the only decent truck set 18:58:29 <planetmaker> I still consider it quite decent. You just must not play with realistic accel for RV then 18:58:40 <Terkhen> or try to transport alcohol :P 18:58:47 <Terkhen> eGRVTS could use a big update 18:58:58 <Terkhen> but it still has too many vehicles for my taste 18:59:11 <planetmaker> it could. I think it's being done, though. Slowly, ever so slowly 18:59:15 <Terkhen> ogfx-rv has too few 18:59:17 <Terkhen> :P 18:59:18 <planetmaker> As usual no feedback, I guess 18:59:21 <planetmaker> he :-P 18:59:29 <Nat_aS> It's just anoying scrolling past a million tucks that look exactly the same 18:59:34 <frosch123> go to simuscape then :p 18:59:35 <Terkhen> well, at least eGRVTS gets *some* feedback 18:59:37 <Nat_aS> with minor diffrences in stats 18:59:47 <Terkhen> the life of the road vehicle newgrf developer is hard 19:00:02 <andythenorth> especially when the newgrf won't compile 19:00:18 <Terkhen> andythenorth: you can't blame your users for that :P 19:00:25 <andythenorth> ho 19:00:27 <andythenorth> why not? :P 19:00:40 <Terkhen> well, you can, but you would blame them without reason :) 19:01:53 <Nat_aS> I think HEQS is my favorite newfrg 19:02:15 <Terkhen> it's certainly one of mine 19:02:19 <Nat_aS> the only thing that would improve it would be if there were sets of trucks and busses to go with it 19:02:30 <Terkhen> trucks and busses are not HEQ 19:02:33 <Nat_aS> I know 19:02:36 <planetmaker> it has a few unique selling points 19:02:48 <Terkhen> you can add a different set for that, there is no reason to include them in HEQS IMO 19:03:07 <Terkhen> andythenorth: did HEQS get autorefit? 19:03:10 <planetmaker> indeed. It'd be a dilution of heqs. And it'd not serve it well. On the contrary 19:03:13 <Nat_aS> no, I'm saying there should be a GRF designed to be used next to HEQS 19:03:17 <Nat_aS> that adds trucks and busses 19:03:22 <Knogle> frosch123: You don't happen to have an example of it? :P 19:03:26 <andythenorth> Terkhen: yes but it can cause an assert iirc 19:03:29 <Nat_aS> because all the road veichile sets are designed to be complete 19:03:39 <Terkhen> an assert in OpenTTD? :O 19:03:42 <Nat_aS> and thus cause redundencey and mismatching when used with HEQS 19:03:43 <frosch123> Knogle: clear 4 sea tiles, and build a hq before it gets reflooded 19:03:45 <Terkhen> did you report that? 19:03:54 <andythenorth> I had it reported to me by Rubidium 19:04:08 <andythenorth> I think it's now trapped, I didn't check recenrlty 19:04:13 <andythenorth> recently /s 19:04:22 <Terkhen> I missed that, it must be from before I started to pay attention again 19:04:28 <Terkhen> but I recently checked all bugs and I did not see that one 19:04:33 <Knogle> frosch123: I'm with you that far, but how do I figure the tile # for the top right corner for example? 19:05:08 <Nat_aS> Hmm, does station rating consider feeders? 19:05:08 <frosch123> i thingk GSTile has some function to test for water 19:05:20 <Nat_aS> because it seems like the best way to boost a station rating is to use feeders 19:05:28 <frosch123> but ofc, if the entire map has no water, you are doomed ;p 19:05:37 <frosch123> then you need to terraform at the border to make sea :p 19:05:44 <andythenorth> Terkhen: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3342 19:05:50 <Nat_aS> have a fleet of tiny RVs take cargo to a station a few tiles away, and then load it onto one giant train 19:05:55 <Nat_aS> that only comes once a year 19:06:05 <Nat_aS> tricking the station raiting 19:06:33 <Terkhen> andythenorth: I see :/ 19:06:45 <Terkhen> it would be nice to have autorefit in HEQS :P 19:06:55 <Terkhen> what about FISH? 19:06:59 <andythenorth> planned 19:07:01 <frosch123> Nat_aS: station rarting is affected a lot by the amount of time since cargo was loaded last 19:07:02 <Knogle> frosch123: yes, GSTile::IsWaterTile 19:07:04 * Terkhen is planning a test game soon-ish 19:07:15 <frosch123> so, best case is when a vehicle is constantly waiting for loading 19:07:45 <Knogle> frosch123: But I don't know which tile is which :| 19:07:47 <andythenorth> some of HEQS has auto-refit 19:07:54 <frosch123> when using FISH i only ever build the island trader :s 19:08:00 <andythenorth> because...? 19:08:01 <Nat_aS> yeah, and it's biased against large trains/ships which come infrequently. 19:08:08 <andythenorth> Terkhen: HEQS won't be fixed until I convert it to python 19:08:16 <andythenorth> which can't happen because BANDIT won't compile 19:08:19 <Terkhen> python? sounds crazy :P 19:08:31 <Nat_aS> wait? Island traider refits itself automaticly? 19:08:33 <Nat_aS> huh? 19:08:43 <frosch123> Knogle: http://wiki.openttd.org/AI:Need_To_Know#Game_Mechanics 19:08:44 <Terkhen> Nat_aS: use a NewGRF that redefines how station ratings work 19:08:57 <Knogle> frosch123: thank you! :) 19:09:09 <Nat_aS> I was just asking, is feeders a good way to trick the station raiting? 19:09:31 <andythenorth> yes 19:09:50 <frosch123> island trader is the fastest ship, and has the enough capacity for all my needs 19:09:51 <andythenorth> you can max out ratings easily with HEQS dump trucks feeding ships / trains 19:10:03 <andythenorth> or you can use FIRS with 'improved' station ratings 19:10:05 <frosch123> FISH lacks interesting introduction dates 19:10:14 <andythenorth> FISH lacks a danmack 19:10:27 <planetmaker> OpenTTD graphics lack a DanMacK 19:10:28 <Nat_aS> yeah, My problem with FISH is how slow everything is 19:10:37 <Nat_aS> I use island traider because it's fast-ish 19:10:42 <Nat_aS> but wish I could use the others 19:11:01 <Terkhen> ships are slow :P 19:11:08 <planetmaker> and meant to be slow 19:11:52 <Nat_aS> the game can't handle slow things on large maps 19:12:04 <Nat_aS> a ship can take years to get to port on modern maps 19:12:16 <andythenorth> shrug 19:12:18 <andythenorth> build trains 19:12:20 <Nat_aS> if there was a boat speed factor like the train speed factor that could fix things 19:12:26 <Nat_aS> trains can't into water 19:12:31 <andythenorth> build bridges 19:12:31 <Nat_aS> some maps have island 19:12:39 <Nat_aS> island bridges are silly 19:12:44 <andythenorth> just build giant bridges with maglev 19:12:47 <andythenorth> problem solved 19:12:55 <planetmaker> bridge-mania ;-) 19:13:26 <Terkhen> either that or use ships 19:13:30 <Terkhen> and ships are slow :) 19:13:37 <andythenorth> I should make BANDIT compile 19:14:02 <Terkhen> if that makes you release a new set and fix HEQS then yes, you should 19:14:14 <Nat_aS> I don't think ships should be 'fast' but I think they should be less slow 19:14:22 <frosch123> yeah, but only ships are able to transport the masses of sweets, but sweet payment decreases so fast :( 19:14:23 <andythenorth> what about my 49323 python files? 19:14:26 <planetmaker> then... make a newgrf, nat_as 19:15:32 * FLHerne wants the 'boat speed factor' :P 19:15:47 <Nat_aS> Fish is nice thought, it just needs a boat speed factor 19:15:56 <Nat_aS> maybe as a perameter 19:15:57 <andythenorth> GPL 19:16:04 <andythenorth> patch it 19:16:11 <FLHerne> If boats were 50% faster, I'd use even more than I do already :D 19:17:01 <FLHerne> andythenorth: Indeed. Time required to learn C++ and then OTTD system would be longer than I have spare atm :-( 19:17:13 <FLHerne> Maybe in July... 19:17:24 <andythenorth> just patch the newgrf 19:17:27 <andythenorth> it takes 10 mins 19:17:29 <Nat_aS> Diddo 19:17:52 <Nat_aS> it could be called flying fish! 19:19:00 <FLHerne> 10 mins...including installing NML compilers etc? 19:20:52 <Terkhen> that would take longer 19:21:15 <Terkhen> and besides that... unless it was converted FISH is not in NML 19:21:35 <Terkhen> pnfo is... scary :) 19:23:08 <planetmaker> :-D 19:23:18 <planetmaker> I'd simply make an add-on newgrf in NML 19:23:28 <Terkhen> yes, that would be simpler 19:23:33 <planetmaker> which modifies ship speeds of FISH 19:30:16 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-244-73.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [QUIT :Leaving.] 19:31:14 <Nat_aS> Call it flying fish! 19:44:53 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 19:46:02 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:51:42 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-242-172.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:15:59 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:40 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:35:10 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:36:15 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:41:15 <planetmaker> good night 20:50:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 20:56:35 <frosch123> night 20:56:38 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4df7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:54 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d082f3f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us] 21:10:21 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:10:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:16:46 <Terkhen> good night 21:20:01 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 21:21:26 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.151.112] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 21:30:40 *** mal2__ [~mal2@port-92-206-228-222.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:31:09 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.83.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:51 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e09ee84.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:36:08 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 21:38:38 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:06 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 21:56:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AB9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09:40 *** APTX_ [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 22:12:00 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:39 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:53 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 22:49:19 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.76.41] has joined #openttd 22:54:09 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.75.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:40 *** xiong [~xiong@c-67-164-36-201.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:18:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-242-172.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:57:50 *** kkimlabs [~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd