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00:17:12 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-89-176-205-166.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 00:19:03 *** kkimlabs [~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:28:49 *** kkimlabs [~kkimlabs@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:37:29 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-21.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:38:36 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-170-044.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 00:53:59 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-89-176-205-166.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 00:56:03 *** APTX_ [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:56:12 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 00:59:45 *** jamaka2001 [625de073@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 00:59:45 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:01 <jamaka2001> i got banned on the welcome server and i need help 01:00:12 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 01:00:19 <jamaka2001> in openttd 01:03:46 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:03:54 <jamaka2001> hello? 01:04:26 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 01:04:34 <jamaka2001> i need help here 01:05:11 <jamaka2001> someone please answer 01:06:06 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:45 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 01:09:12 *** jamaka2001 [625de073@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 01:09:55 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:22 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 01:24:07 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:24:28 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 01:55:46 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3cb2:1aa6:bcef:a232] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:08:32 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:17:51 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 03:09:34 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.11.72] has joined #openttd 03:17:35 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@115.133.11.72] has joined #openttd 03:17:36 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.11.72] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:23:05 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.11.72] has joined #openttd 03:26:07 *** KouDy2 [~KouDy@115.133.11.72] has joined #openttd 03:30:07 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@115.133.11.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:32:38 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.11.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:20 <xiong> I shall answer: Hello! But I can be of no use whatsoever; please accept my apologies. 03:40:35 *** xiong [~xiong@c-67-164-36-201.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:47:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4C48.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:48:11 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4929.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:11:42 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 05:15:28 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-244-73.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 05:18:28 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 05:20:03 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e09ee84.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:32:13 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-21.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 05:38:08 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:54:49 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.151.112] has joined #openttd 06:08:22 <Markk> Goedemorgen. 06:24:07 <telanus> goeie more 06:25:30 <Markk> Alles gut? 06:26:09 <telanus> alles gaat goed 06:26:32 * telanus thinks it's correct 06:26:37 <NGC3982> gaat goed? 06:26:41 <NGC3982> good^good? 06:26:41 <NGC3982> :D 06:27:09 <telanus> :D 06:27:57 <telanus> never 100% sure if I get my dutch correctly. I know we write: Alles gaan goed 06:28:30 <Markk> Good 'nuff 06:28:30 <Markk> :D 06:30:38 <telanus> :-D 06:37:38 <planetmaker> moin 06:37:46 <Markk> Hoi planetmaker 06:38:59 <NGC3982> morning 06:41:47 <telanus> hi 06:42:51 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 07:13:27 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-034-110.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 07:24:23 * NGC3982 has an urge to play. 07:30:11 <NGC3982> is there any way to slow down time in a server game? 07:30:25 <NGC3982> id like to create a long-play server 07:30:34 <NGC3982> 100 years/running week or something 08:10:03 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 08:38:43 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 08:47:01 *** mal2__ [~mal2@z529a.pia.fu-berlin.de] has joined #openttd 08:47:44 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.83.135] has joined #openttd 08:57:58 *** mal2__ [~mal2@z529a.pia.fu-berlin.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:56:51 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.151.112] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 10:09:42 *** George is now known as Guest1969 10:09:46 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 10:14:52 *** Guest1969 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:00 *** Hazzard [~7c418246@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:25:25 <lugo> NGC3982, i can't think of anything else other than either pausing when noone's playing or using a modified version of ottd alltogether (with daylength patch) 10:48:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008c89.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:53:52 <NGC3982> lugo: i see. 10:53:53 <NGC3982> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=20006 10:53:55 <NGC3982> there we are 10:54:03 <NGC3982> ive actually never used a patch for ttd 10:54:14 <NGC3982> other then newgrf, wich i guess goes under some other terminology. 10:56:24 <lugo> of course clients and server need to use the exact same version in this case, so this is a pretty ... cumbersome solution.. 10:58:06 <lugo> well from my experience cumbersome, don't know how tech savvy your potential players would be :) 11:05:47 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:16:39 <NGC3982> yes, i noticed that. 11:16:54 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-89-176-205-166.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 11:16:55 <NGC3982> would be neat to use as a grf 11:43:12 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-034-110.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 12:21:22 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3c5e:40f0:3a8b:9963] has joined #openttd 12:21:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:22:53 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.151.112] has joined #openttd 12:23:12 *** Hazzard [~7c418246@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:25:37 *** Hazzard [~72f648ae@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:49:47 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d082f8d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:56:44 <Belugas> hello 13:07:48 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-89-176-205-166.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 13:10:13 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:47:04 <Hazzard> Hi 13:47:38 <Hazzard> How do I include the readme and license in-game for a grf? 13:52:21 <frosch123> put them together into a tar 13:52:47 <frosch123> http://bananas.openttd.org/en/manager/tos/ <- the bananas tos contain some details 13:53:25 <frosch123> but it also works without bananas :) 13:55:51 <frosch123> basically readme and licence need to be in the same directory as the grf 13:56:12 <frosch123> so there is always a separate directory for each grf and for each version of it 14:03:25 *** glx is now known as Guest1984 14:03:25 *** glx_ [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3c5e:40f0:3a8b:9963] has joined #openttd 14:03:25 *** glx_ is now known as glx 14:03:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:05:08 *** Doorslammer [7da861ac@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:05:26 <Hazzard> I put the .grf and license.txt and readme.txt into a .tar file and put it into .openttd/newgrf/ but the readme and "licence" buttons are still darkened when I select my grf 14:05:26 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:07:23 *** Guest1984 [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3c5e:40f0:3a8b:9963] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:07:45 <frosch123> compare the structure of your tar with some you get from bananas 14:08:00 <frosch123> directories and filenames inside the tar matter 14:09:33 <Hazzard> should it be licence.txt or license.txt? The examples use license.txt but the button says licence. I have tried both but niether seem to work 14:09:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CD9F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:10:05 <Hazzard> ah 14:10:19 <Hazzard> I think I have figured it out 14:16:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C3D4.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:36 <Hazzard> It seems it all needs to be inside a folder in the .tar 14:17:37 <Hazzard> Thank you 14:23:48 *** Doorslammer [7da861ac@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:28:01 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:28:26 <Knogle> Hmm is GetGrowthRate supposed to return 33000 or did I do something wrong? :| 14:29:23 *** obi_wan [5aa334ad@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:30:18 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 14:30:38 <Knogle> (when it is in fact growing every 80 days or so) 14:33:25 *** obi_wan [5aa334ad@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 14:33:43 <frosch123> no, looks like it does not mask TOWN_GROW_RATE_CUSTOM 14:34:11 <Eddi|zuHause> Hazzard: it is common practice to have folders inside tars 14:34:31 <Eddi|zuHause> Hazzard: some people get really mad if this is violated :) 14:34:36 <Knogle> frosch123: what does that mean? hehe 14:34:50 <frosch123> bug in ottd 14:35:11 <frosch123> but looking at the function, there seem to be about 2 or 3 of them 14:35:59 <Knogle> is there a work around? 14:36:32 <frosch123> you might try to multiple it with 74, divide it by 70, and subtract 32768 14:36:41 <frosch123> :p 14:36:48 <Knogle> interesting numbers :P 14:36:54 <Knogle> did you make them up? lol 14:36:56 <frosch123> but actually, i think you should rather wait for a fix :p 14:37:13 <frosch123> nope 14:37:31 <Knogle> that would require an update, and I have no idea when next stable is released :P 14:37:51 <glx> the answer is easy : 14:37:57 <glx> when it's done 14:38:00 <Eddi|zuHause> Knogle: 74 is the number of ticks per day, and 32768 is 2^15. i have no idea what 70 is, though 14:38:01 <Knogle> exactly 14:38:28 <Knogle> Eddi|zuHause: Okay. 14:38:56 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.11.72] has joined #openttd 14:40:01 <Knogle> Thanks a lot guys, I'll give it a try :) 14:44:06 *** KouDy2 [~KouDy@115.133.11.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:44:10 <frosch123> it turned out to be only one bug :) 14:44:54 *** Hazzard [~72f648ae@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:45:29 <Knogle> when it's not growing it returns -1676, don't know if its supposed to do so 14:46:45 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: frosch * r24302 /trunk/src/script/api/script_town.cpp: -Fix: [Script] ScriptTown::GetGrowthRate() returned wrong values after usage of SetGrowthRate(). 14:48:53 <Knogle> neat 14:49:44 <frosch123> can you please check the nightly in 3 hours whether it works then :) 14:49:53 <Knogle> sure 14:50:05 <Knogle> thanks ;) 14:50:19 <frosch123> thanks as well :) 14:51:04 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: 70 is the size of the town array in original ttd :p 14:51:24 <Eddi|zuHause> interesting :) 14:51:58 <Knogle> what will GetGrowthRate return if the town isn't growing? 14:52:11 <Knogle> the same? 14:52:23 <frosch123> maybe 0 14:52:40 * Knogle tests 14:52:59 <Knogle> GR: 222 14:53:03 <Knogle> guess not 14:53:25 <Knogle> so there isn't a way to check if a town is growing or not, it seems. 14:56:53 <frosch123> actually i think towns always grow, unless there are food/water restrictions 14:57:13 <frosch123> or it is disabled in adv. settings 14:57:27 <Knogle> there is food/water restrictions 14:57:43 <Knogle> and the town GUI says "Town is not growing" 14:57:50 <Eddi|zuHause> how is that anyway, large value of growth rate means the town grows slower? 14:58:09 <Knogle> yes 14:58:18 <frosch123> oh, i guess GetGrowthRate just returned the rate the last time the town grew 14:58:20 <Knogle> GR 1 means a new house every 1 day 14:58:26 <Knogle> afaik 14:58:28 <frosch123> it cannot handle the "town does not grow" case 14:58:48 <Knogle> too bad, I need to return "Town growing: yes/no" 14:58:51 <Knogle> oh well 15:00:17 <frosch123> btw. you cannot rely on GetGrowthRate returning the value set in SetGrowthRate 15:00:31 <frosch123> there is some stupid rounding due to the * 70 / 74 conversion :s 15:01:23 <Knogle> need a GSTown.IsGrowing(town) that return true or false :P 15:02:04 <Knogle> thanks for the info frosch123 ;) 15:02:14 <frosch123> well, i would think it would become a special result of GetGrowthRate in any case 15:36:29 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.11.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:38:02 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.10.254] has joined #openttd 15:43:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A8D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:47:10 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.10.254] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:08:53 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 16:15:36 *** kkimlabs [~kkimlabs@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:00 *** brambles 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#openttd 18:41:47 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-247-149.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:43:57 *** einKarl [~einKarl@188-193-165-198-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [] 18:45:08 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:49:20 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 18:57:53 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 19:04:27 *** tonidell2002 [bcadfc50@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:04:38 <tonidell2002> hello 19:04:51 <tonidell2002> i have problem with my game 19:05:00 <tonidell2002> the inteligents not work 19:05:02 <tonidell2002> why? 19:05:53 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-89-176-205-166.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:06:30 *** tonidell2002 [bcadfc50@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [] 19:08:27 <Alberth> because computers are stupid and you are too fast 19:11:07 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:12:33 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:26 *** keoz [~keikoz@141.2.96.19] has quit [Quit: keoz] 19:19:14 <Terkhen> :P 19:23:33 <frosch123> where is darth vader when you need him? 19:23:41 <frosch123> i need to get rid of some obiwan 19:23:48 *** KritiK [~Maxim@37-144-154-178.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:24:05 <Eddi|zuHause> he'll come back as a ghost 19:33:16 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-244-73.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [QUIT :Leaving.] 19:36:37 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:44:10 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:56:34 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3c5e:40f0:3a8b:9963] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:56:46 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3c5e:40f0:3a8b:9963] has joined #openttd 20:00:40 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:04:59 *** lugo [GBerten293@oxygen.evosurge.com] has quit [Quit: EvoSurge - Free & Premium IRC Bouncers on Demand - http://evosurge.com/] 20:07:47 *** GBerten2936 [GBerten293@oxygen.evosurge.com] has joined #openttd 20:24:38 <Zuu> Apart from Basic Tutorial, has there yet been any scenario designed that also comes with a special GS that invokes events etc.? 20:25:26 <Zuu> Or are all GS authors too good at writing generic code so that they are not interested in writing code for a specific scenario? and most scenario creators have no clue about GS? 20:26:29 <Terkhen> I think that they are creating only generic code 20:26:52 <Terkhen> GS is still not widespread so I doubt that scenario creators know what it cand o 20:26:54 <Terkhen> can do* 20:27:30 <Zuu> Hmm, there could be a general purpose GS aimed to supply scenario creators with some basic event mechanisms. To declare events, they put signs at the ground. Eg: build industry type 5 at this tile in year 1975. (but written more dense to fit at 31 chars) 20:27:56 <Zuu> Of course the GS will scan the signs at the start of the scenario and remove them so that players will not see them. 20:28:37 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E8CC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:29:05 <Zuu> A bit like TileLabels GS library, but with added posibilties. 20:29:22 <Zuu> Something that scenario developes who can't program could probably still figure out how to use. 20:30:02 <Terkhen> while writing the scenario specs I wondered about GS 20:30:14 <Terkhen> there can only be one GS active at a time, true? 20:30:21 <Zuu> Yes, that is true 20:30:31 <Terkhen> that's problematic :P 20:30:55 <Zuu> At the creation time of GS, some have predicted that we'll see GS packs that combine serveral GSs. 20:31:05 <Zuu> However, so far we have yet to see the first GS pack. 20:31:18 <Terkhen> scenarios could have a "recommended GS" field 20:31:25 <Zuu> SCP Lib has at least been designed with GS packs in mind. 20:31:26 <__ln__> good news to Terkhen, Wolf01, Sacro, and others: a route planning service for your country is now online: http://orbis.stanford.edu/ 20:31:32 <Terkhen> it's not something that I would add until everything else is done, though 20:32:33 <Terkhen> __ln__: thanks, I'll use it the next time I go back in time 20:32:56 <Zuu> Terkhen: Sounds wise. It's probably doable at the end, and no use to waste time on it before the other parts are sorted out. 20:33:06 <Terkhen> Zuu: yes :) 20:34:41 <Terkhen> if it were possible to have more than one, it would be possible to recommend a simple GS script that would take care of ancillary scenario stuff like opening/closing industries and the like 20:35:06 <Terkhen> and then let the user add another GS that would take care of the economy and stuff like that 20:36:40 <Terkhen> but this is something for when the thing itself is done :P 20:36:43 <Terkhen> for now, sleep 20:36:46 <Terkhen> good night 20:36:53 <Alberth> good night Terkhen 20:37:05 <Zuu> I think TrueBrain left the door half-closed on the matter of allowing several GSs. Others have so far not opened up for that posibility. Not having multiple GSs remove the posibility that they would conflct and move the burden of merging them to the GS authors, which I'm sure is useful for an OpenTTD developer. :-) 20:38:17 <Alberth> we are just worried you run out of work :p 20:39:03 <Zuu> hehe, no need to worry. I will come up with some other ideas then :-) 20:39:06 <Alberth> but indeed, that is a big one to figure out how to handle 20:39:50 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.151.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:19 <Knogle> I'm trying to make a citybuilder game, but GS lacks features to do that :| 20:41:35 <Zuu> what are you missing? 20:42:22 <Knogle> an easy way to block someone from building an HQ in the same town as someone else (you claim a town by building your hq in it) 20:42:37 <Knogle> and uhm, a way to tell if a town is growing or not 20:42:42 <Knogle> :P 20:43:19 <Knogle> and ability to remove the default food and water requirements for desert towns in the subtropical temperate 20:43:33 <Knogle> and a lot of other things, I just can't think of right now. 20:43:50 <Knogle> oh, and generate maps with a water tower in every town. 20:43:55 <Zuu> Look into "neighbours are important". There is a guy that has been working on a improved version of it that will display custom content to the town window to show which nearby towns that are considered as neighbours. 20:44:17 <Knogle> I have seen it, and "stolen" ideas from it ;) 20:44:29 <Zuu> I don't think his work is public yet, but I've seen it working on his private server, so it is posible to do. 20:44:55 <Zuu> I hope you publish your stolen ideas as a script on bananas when you are done :-) 20:45:09 <Knogle> if I ever get it to work, yes. 20:46:36 <Zuu> Regarding the HQ issue, you can't declare tiles that a company can't build a HQ at, but you can move it away if it is found at an illegal place. 20:47:04 <Zuu> GSCompanyMode and then GSCompany.BuildCompanyHQ should do it. 20:47:23 <Knogle> I know, not very useful tho 20:47:34 <Zuu> Use GSTown.SetText(..) to add custom text to the town window. 20:47:35 <Knogle> would have to figure where to move it 20:48:11 <Knogle> I don't need to add custom text to the town GUI though 20:48:45 <Knogle> :) 20:49:32 <Zuu> Knogle> and ability to remove the default food and water requirements for desert towns in the subtropical temperate <--- have you checkd if there is a feature request for this at bugs.openttd.org? If not, try to generalize your idea and make a feature request there in the game script category. 20:50:18 <Knogle> no I haven't 20:50:31 <Knogle> perhaps I should 20:50:52 <Knogle> ;) 20:51:01 <Zuu> If ideas like these are not collected in a place where they don't get lost, it will lower the chance that they ever get implemented. 20:52:15 <Knogle> guess you're right ;) 20:52:35 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-247-149.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:55:58 <frosch123> Zuu: consider the requirements of desert town newgrf imposed 20:56:14 <frosch123> a gamescript cannot control everything 20:56:26 <frosch123> there are also other things which want to control stuff 20:56:45 <frosch123> as such, a gs which removes food and water requirements makes no sense 20:56:52 <frosch123> just play in temperate then 20:57:07 <Zuu> Knogle: ^ 20:57:34 <frosch123> if you do not like newgrfs, you can also think of two gs :p 20:58:00 <frosch123> if one gs want that a town needs food, another gs cannot remove that requirement, it can only add more requirements 20:58:44 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.151.112] has joined #openttd 20:59:01 <Zuu> Though, a GS can lower the cargo requirement value to zero (or close to zero) if it wishes. 20:59:14 <Knogle> as such, a gs which removes food and water requirements makes no sense <- I disagree, if you want to make your own requirements, eg. small towns only needs passengers to grow, then later it'll need water and food. 20:59:29 <frosch123> other than that, i guess at some point we need some save-like gs function which is called at any point and then has a few operations to check the execution of a command 20:59:52 <frosch123> Knogle: you assume your gs is alone, which is just a false assumption 21:00:11 <Knogle> what? 21:01:13 <frosch123> different thing in ottd are controlled by multiple things, the gs is not alone 21:02:59 <Knogle> I never said it was, I just stated what I'd like to do with gs 21:03:24 <frosch123> anyway, i think you can even remove the food and water requirements by setting them to 0 21:03:55 <Knogle> ;) 21:04:46 <Knogle> I'm off to bed, goodnight folks. 21:05:40 <frosch123> also night 21:05:42 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008c89.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:14 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.151.112] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 21:28:19 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 21:29:02 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:41:52 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 21:45:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A8D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47:40 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:47 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 21:55:23 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:09:10 *** namad7 [aaaaa@pool-96-236-218-157.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 22:09:33 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:57 <Wolf01> 'night 22:15:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:15:21 *** Hazzard [~72f66100@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 22:17:11 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:20:11 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d082f8d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us] 22:38:59 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:24 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:49:57 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-89-176-205-166.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:05:05 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:28:34 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:29:23 *** KritiK [~Maxim@37-144-154-178.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:29:57 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:34:19 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:34:31 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 23:36:59 *** Hazzard [~72f66100@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:50:32 *** dfox [~dfox@89.177.105.49] has joined #openttd 23:53:29 *** dfox [~dfox@89.177.105.49] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:53:51 *** dfox [~dfox@89.177.105.49] has joined #openttd