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09:24:23 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-120-241.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 09:24:52 *** Jupix2 is now known as Jupix 09:25:18 <lugo> Jupix: http://www.openttd.org/en/stats is a good start 09:26:12 <Jupix> thx 09:29:10 <NGC3982> 24k downloads a week?! 09:29:15 <NGC3982> sweet jesus. 09:31:41 <Knogle> is there any openttd servers statistics? 09:33:43 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:35:57 <Sacro> 100%[======================================>] 729,067,520 73.6M/s in 9.5s 09:42:00 *** telanus1 [~Barney_Er@196-210-208-84.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:42:29 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-208-84.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 09:45:19 <lugo> *slow clap* 09:56:35 *** KouDy2 [~KouDy@115.133.12.255] has joined #openttd 09:56:35 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.12.255] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:56:45 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.12.255] has joined #openttd 09:58:22 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 10:03:03 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@115.133.12.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f66fe.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:09:24 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.85.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:35:18 *** mal2 [~mal2@z529a.pia.fu-berlin.de] has joined #openttd 10:43:54 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-050-156.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:53:11 *** Hazzard [~413102bb@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:20:12 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.85.244] has joined #openttd 11:32:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:32:30 <andythenorth> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m23fu81JbY1qzg45so1_1280.jpg 11:46:25 <lugo> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/7335753982_edfc3672bf_o.jpg 11:53:50 <Hazzard> random 11:54:17 <andythenorth> lugo: HEQS! 11:54:22 <andythenorth> we need roadtypes :( 11:57:43 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 11:57:47 <Eddi|zuHause> the joy of tilt-shift! 11:58:06 <Eddi|zuHause> you never know which one is real and which one is a model 12:00:08 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39077498@N07/4746509935/in/set-72157624387013240/ 12:00:19 <NGC3982> i fail to understand the naming 12:00:24 <NGC3982> what's tilted, and what's shifting? 12:00:34 <andythenorth> it's about the axis of the lens 12:00:59 <andythenorth> these lenses were originally popular for correcting distortions when shooting architecture 12:01:03 <andythenorth> but they have other uses 12:01:13 <andythenorth> and digital cameras can fake the effect rather well 12:01:21 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiltâshift_photography 12:01:42 <NGC3982> oh, i see 12:01:54 <NGC3982> i actually thought everything about it was digital 12:01:58 <NGC3982> and computer processed 12:02:09 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: because models are small and you are usually very close to them, you have a very limited range of focus, while photographing "real" scenes, your range of focus is much wider due to the distance. these lenses "fake" this effect 12:02:49 <NGC3982> aha 12:02:54 <NGC3982> it's really cute 12:14:26 *** Hazzard [~413102bb@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:25:34 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.85.244] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:27:01 <frosch123> @base 16 10 58 12:27:01 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 88 12:28:31 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.85.244] has joined #openttd 13:15:08 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:15:31 *** mal2 [~mal2@z529a.pia.fu-berlin.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:17:00 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:25:29 <Eddi|zuHause> what's with this inflationary use of animal-oracles? 13:38:45 <frosch123> do they involve frogs? 13:43:32 *** brambles [brambles@79.133.200.49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44:10 *** brambles [brambles@79.133.200.49] has joined #openttd 13:44:15 <NGC3982> animal-oracles? 13:45:23 <Belugas> hello 13:49:09 *** brambles_ [brambles@79.133.200.49] has joined #openttd 13:53:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:55:47 <Terkhen> hello 13:56:55 <Terkhen> Knogle: to my knowledge only http://www.openttd.org/en/servers 14:00:55 <Knogle> That's not what I meant though :P 14:01:21 <Knogle> like, daily/monthly/yearly stats of online players 14:01:32 <frosch123> on good days there are more clients than servers 14:02:23 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.85.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:03:09 <frosch123> and that 0.6.2 server is for sure the ottd server with the longest uptime ever 14:03:37 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 14:03:37 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-89-176-205-166.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 14:05:07 *** Knogle [~knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:05:57 *** Knogle [~knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:11:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.173.211] has joined #openttd 14:12:21 *** Firartix [~artixds@2a01:e35:2ee1:7050:762f:68ff:fea5:ba0] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:16:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.166.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:26:37 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:33:34 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:38:13 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:42:57 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.180] has joined #openttd 14:50:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:58:41 <supermop> hi 15:01:07 <andythenorth> lo 15:02:27 *** KouDy2 [~KouDy@115.133.12.255] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:04:33 <supermop> i just sold a large number of chairs 15:04:52 <supermop> which i never thought would be part of my job 15:08:19 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:9d3e:2bce:f834:fda2] has joined #openttd 15:08:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:11:47 <andythenorth> :) 15:15:13 <supermop> also i dont get commission 15:15:24 <supermop> which is a shame as the order was 67k usd 15:16:05 <andythenorth> :o 15:16:10 <andythenorth> impressive 15:20:31 <supermop> heh 15:21:35 <supermop> all going to your country, 15:33:24 <supermop> what have you been up to andy? 15:36:24 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 15:47:14 *** cornishpasty [users.158@brockwell.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Updating details, brb] 15:47:19 *** cornishpasty [~users.158@brockwell6.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 15:54:40 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55:21 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 15:57:19 <andythenorth> mostly being grateful for recent commits 15:59:34 <supermop> to trunk? 16:00:01 <andythenorth> yup 16:00:47 <Terkhen> which ones? :P 16:00:53 <supermop> neat. What's new? 16:02:37 <andythenorth> road vehicle bounding boxes 16:03:01 <andythenorth> more important than they sound 16:06:14 <Terkhen> no idea, what does that do? :P 16:09:03 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 16:09:16 <Eddi|zuHause> the same as it did for trains 16:09:27 <Eddi|zuHause> make the bounding box shorter when the vehicle is shorter 16:10:20 <frosch123> not quite the same 16:10:28 <frosch123> they still do not turn aruond the center 16:10:38 <frosch123> which is actually noticeable in corners 16:12:05 <Terkhen> I see 16:12:14 <Terkhen> I suppose that it does not affect ogfx-rv at all :P 16:15:29 <frosch123> you might now see more cleary when you misaligned vehicles 16:15:41 <frosch123> oh, and actually there is a change you will notice 16:15:48 <frosch123> rv are now always 32px in vehicle lists 16:16:17 <frosch123> so you might want to check the vehicle list/details/whatever for alignment of the horizontal view 16:17:04 <Terkhen> thanks, I'll do that :) 16:20:09 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has joined #openttd 16:20:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:20:16 <Alberth> oi 16:20:18 <frosch123> hai albert 16:20:22 <Terkhen> hi Alberth :) 16:21:07 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 16:21:50 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.95.166] has joined #openttd 16:28:58 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:35:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A5DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:37:26 <andythenorth> frosch123: is it plausible that rvs might rotate around center? 16:37:57 <frosch123> plausible? 16:38:07 <frosch123> currently they do not 16:38:21 <frosch123> but it might improve the look in corners, if they would 16:38:25 <andythenorth> yes 16:38:37 <andythenorth> it won't affect newgrf offsets 16:39:13 <frosch123> if you make the correct, it will be fine 16:39:33 <andythenorth> :) 16:39:34 <frosch123> if you mess them up while trying to compensate for the non-centric rotation it will become worse :) 16:39:37 <andythenorth> yup 16:39:47 <andythenorth> I'm going to change that for hes 2 16:39:50 <andythenorth> *heqs 16:40:33 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-14-225.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:46:27 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-155-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:55 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.95.166] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:05:28 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:05:49 <Alberth> Terkhen: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1463/ patch for opengfx-rv dutch translation. the only real change is at line 3, where the website is removed. The empty lines are entries that need no translation, there is no real need to insert them in the file. 17:06:00 <andythenorth> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyxo6dEeau1qzg45so1_1280.jpg 17:06:18 <Alberth> oops :) 17:06:49 <Terkhen> Alberth: thank you :) 17:07:09 <Terkhen> the first part of the description changed slightly in english, also the graphics credits 17:07:33 <Alberth> I'll check again then 17:08:21 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 17:10:14 <frosch123> thanks for reminding me, that there is such an url thingie 17:10:20 <frosch123> debugveh lacked it 17:12:02 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:13:56 <Alberth> Terkhen: update http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1464/ sorry for the unfinished first attempt 17:14:37 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:15:15 <Terkhen> Alberth: thank you for your translation :) 17:16:13 <Belugas> liked that joke : http://imgur.com/nY21G 17:16:19 <Alberth> FooBar did most of the work, I just made minor adjustments :) 17:17:06 <Alberth> Belugas: hehe :) 17:17:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has joined #openttd 17:17:27 <Alberth> hi Wolf the first 17:17:58 <Wolf01> hello Alberth 17:18:09 <Terkhen> hi Wolf01 17:18:25 <Wolf01> hi Terkhen 17:25:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:31:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:34:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:35:34 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:36:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24334 /trunk/src/lang/ (dutch.txt hungarian.txt latvian.txt): 17:36:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:36:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 11 changes by habell 17:36:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 189 changes by IPG 17:36:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 14 changes by Parastais 17:43:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:43:57 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: is the joke "this site is down for maintenance"? 17:44:59 <frosch123> the joke are missing parentheses 17:49:05 <Belugas> of course, Eddi|zuHause :) of course! 18:07:48 <Wolf01> "this site is down for maintenance()"? 18:09:22 <Wolf01> (sorry, too much php/jquery today) 18:10:53 <frosch123> wow, some idiot downloaded debugveh within one minute from bananas :p 18:11:28 <Wolf01> maybe one of those which does check all the content 18:11:55 <frosch123> well, at least i managed to become the second downloader myself :) 18:12:39 <frosch123> let's see what download count i get with another newgrf which has no use for the average user :p 18:12:49 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:16:00 <Alberth> you should make one called nop.grf which does nothing :) 18:16:37 *** Firartix [~artixds@2a01:e35:2ee1:7050:762f:68ff:fea5:ba0] has joined #openttd 18:17:02 <Terkhen> frosch123: I predict that you will get many downloads and even random "why my vehicles have become boxes" posts in unrelated threads at tt-forums 18:17:16 <frosch123> yeah, let's hope for that 18:17:19 <Terkhen> :P 18:17:36 <frosch123> though i rather expect posts like: i really like these boxes, but the vehicle stats are completely useless 18:17:42 <Terkhen> hah :D 18:18:31 <Alberth> and suggestions like 'an open box at the top so you can transport bulk' :) 18:19:08 <Alberth> although to keep in style, you'd have to use small boxes as bulk :) 18:19:21 <frosch123> well, i will blame foobar 18:19:38 <frosch123> the code looks exactly as in the nml tutorial, so what could be wrong? :) 18:19:53 <Alberth> :D 18:19:58 <Terkhen> :) 18:20:54 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:27:44 <andythenorth> frosch123: I expect cargo support 18:28:39 <frosch123> they transport all cargos which are piece goods or express, but not passengers or refridgerated 18:29:11 <frosch123> the longer vehicles have quite high capacities 18:29:16 <frosch123> but quite low power for it 18:29:58 <frosch123> though they are also quite cheap 18:30:14 <frosch123> so, the 1/8 train engines might be quite good actually 18:30:39 <andythenorth> frosch123: no cargo graphics? :P 18:30:57 <frosch123> you can choose from 8 colours :p 18:31:20 <frosch123> oh, please, someone should start a lightning discussion :) 18:31:51 <Alberth> perhaps start discussing smoke now? 18:32:52 <andythenorth> is the lighting correct? 18:33:12 <andythenorth> yeah, looks ok 18:33:16 <andythenorth> but... 18:33:31 <andythenorth> frosch123: this really convinces me I was wrong about smoke 18:33:40 <andythenorth> we *do* need newgrf effect vehicles 18:33:47 <andythenorth> so you can have smoke cubes 18:34:12 <andythenorth> making your grf also suitable for debugging effect vehicles :P 18:34:29 <telanus> :-D. 18:34:32 <frosch123> i disabled all effects to not block the view on the boxes 18:35:01 <andythenorth> parameter :P 18:41:17 <Terkhen> smoke is boring 18:41:24 <Terkhen> it adds nothing besides eyecandy 18:41:29 <Terkhen> :P 18:44:39 <andythenorth> ho 18:44:50 <andythenorth> that argument can be extended to other things ;) 18:45:06 <andythenorth> graphics are boring 18:45:11 <andythenorth> they add nothing besides eyecandy 18:47:02 <Terkhen> hmmm 18:47:06 <Terkhen> you might be on to something there 18:47:16 <Terkhen> I agree, we should move to an ASCII interface 18:47:23 <andythenorth> that would rock 18:47:31 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:48:08 <FLHerne> @seen pikka 18:48:08 <DorpsGek> FLHerne: pikka was last seen in #openttd 2 weeks, 6 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Pikka> hello Alberth 18:48:16 <FLHerne> :-( 18:48:39 * Alberth slaps DorpsGek 18:49:49 <FLHerne> Andythenorth: UKRS2 and FIRS don't play at all nicely in terms of cargo support. Is that for UKRS2 thread or FIRS? 18:50:23 <andythenorth> neither 18:50:37 <andythenorth> you have to live with it 18:51:33 <FLHerne> Where then? :P 18:51:46 <andythenorth> nowhere :) 18:52:04 <FLHerne> But cement tanks really should carry cement... :-( 18:52:13 <FLHerne> etc 18:52:23 <andythenorth> pikka doesn't care about that 18:52:29 <andythenorth> or he might 18:52:32 <andythenorth> maybe 18:52:41 <FLHerne> Also, they shouldn't carry fish :P 18:52:52 <andythenorth> well post in UKRS2 thread and ask then 18:52:59 <andythenorth> it's definitely not FIRS 18:53:08 <andythenorth> been there, done that :P 18:53:20 <FLHerne> Ok. Pass it on to him, then? Bias, maybe? :P 18:55:01 * FLHerne finds a forum to complain in :P 18:55:29 <Alberth> off-topic sounds ok :p 18:55:56 <andythenorth> put it in ukrs2 thread 18:56:51 <Alberth> after a search it has not been posted before 18:57:34 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:11 <FLHerne> I'll probably make a proper check of what is/isn't compatible tomorrow, then. There seem to be quite a few obvious mismatches... 19:00:18 <FLHerne> Thanks, anyway :-) 19:08:47 <Terkhen> cargo compatibility is always problematic :) 19:08:49 <Nat_aS> >looking up what to buy for a new computer, People tell me to get a better GPU than CPU 19:08:58 <Nat_aS> BUT WHAT ABOUT GAMES LIKE DWARF FORTRESS? 19:10:41 <Alberth> or OpenTTD 19:11:04 <Nat_aS> yeah 19:11:10 <Terkhen> why would you need to get a new computer just for dwarf fortress? I doubt that it is very resource expensive, except maybe at map generation 19:11:15 <Nat_aS> All the cool games hog CPU speed 19:11:30 <Nat_aS> have you ever played DF Terkhen? 19:11:37 <Alberth> for some form of 'cool', yeah :) 19:11:40 <Nat_aS> it's probably the most complex game with ASCII graphics. 19:11:47 <Nat_aS> even outside of mapgen 19:11:51 <Alberth> nah, 19:12:06 <Terkhen> Nat_aS: no, I'm just making wild assumptions :) 19:12:08 <Alberth> programming is a much more complicated game 19:12:23 <Nat_aS> each creature has it's own pathfinding, and there is fluid dynamics for liquids and TEMPERATURE. 19:12:29 <Nat_aS> it simulates air temprature. 19:12:38 <Nat_aS> Fires or floods can send FPS to a crawl. 19:12:51 <Terkhen> wow, that thing is crazy :P 19:13:09 <andythenorth> making games is a much better game 19:13:17 <Nat_aS> also toady is a mathmatician, not a progrmer 19:13:31 <Nat_aS> it's spagethi coded to hell and back, and he wont let anybody optomize it for him 19:13:43 <Nat_aS> so it's even worse than it sounds resource wise. 19:14:59 <Terkhen> sounds like the usual closed source one man project :P 19:15:21 <Nat_aS> yes 19:15:36 <Nat_aS> he needs to open the source, but he does not want to lose control of it. 19:15:45 <Nat_aS> which is ridiculous 19:15:50 <Nat_aS> it will always be his game. 19:16:29 <Terkhen> sounds familiar 19:16:33 <Nat_aS> but yeah, DF makes 1024x1024 ottd maps with 500 trains look like nothing. 19:16:59 <Terkhen> I played DF once, but I found the learning curve to be more like a wall 19:17:20 <Terkhen> but all those procedurally generated stuff sounds interesting 19:17:21 <Nat_aS> it's fun once you figure out the counterintuitive interface. 19:17:29 <Nat_aS> and it has ambition that most games lack 19:17:43 <Terkhen> sorry, I'm already spoiled by modern achievement-driven games :) 19:18:34 <Nat_aS> Achievement Unlocked! Completed the tutorial! 19:18:51 <Terkhen> what? 19:18:58 <Terkhen> I don't get an achievement just for starting the tutorial? 19:19:01 <Terkhen> not worth playing IMO 19:19:05 <Nat_aS> lol 19:19:52 <Terkhen> just kidding, I'm not that spoiled, but I still need a game that is designed taking the user experience into account somewhat 19:20:05 <Terkhen> and I'm not talking about the ASCII part :P 19:20:29 <Nat_aS> yes 19:20:39 <Nat_aS> the ASCII graphics are the least obtuse part of the interface 19:20:53 <Nat_aS> although I usualy switch to a square font face or tileset 19:21:07 <Nat_aS> because tiles being taller than they are wide makes things hard to plan visualy 19:22:52 <andythenorth> oh dear 19:22:56 <andythenorth> DF looks worryingly good 19:23:41 <Nat_aS> actualy 19:23:45 <Nat_aS> I have not played it in a while 19:23:51 <Nat_aS> it should run good on my gaming laptop though 19:23:54 <Nat_aS> i7 and 6gb ram 19:24:21 <Nat_aS> but back to computers, what's a good motherboard. 19:24:23 <Terkhen> if it doesn't, the DF guy seriously needs to do some optimizations :P 19:24:30 <Nat_aS> and should I get a case with a built in PSU? 19:24:42 * Terkhen has no idea about motherboards 19:24:54 <Terkhen> they are stuff that get all the other stuff working together 19:25:25 <andythenorth> DF looks fricking awesome 19:25:35 * andythenorth spent a childhood playing games like that, approximately 19:25:40 <Rhamphoryncus> andythenorth: DF involves intense multidimensional simulation.. but it does need optimization, heh 19:25:59 * andythenorth has no idea about computers 19:26:23 <andythenorth> what are computers for? 19:26:56 <Rhamphoryncus> porn 19:30:45 <Terkhen> spending money on them 19:31:19 <andythenorth> they're boxes? 19:31:35 <andythenorth> I think we have some in the office somewhere to prop the door open 19:38:38 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 19:38:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@128-72-90-234.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:44:31 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 19:48:31 * andythenorth ponders articulated trucks in â view 19:48:42 <andythenorth> excessive spacing 19:49:00 <andythenorth> side effect of defining them as 32px? 19:49:07 <andythenorth> 32px is correct imo 19:50:54 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-208-84.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [QUIT :Leaving.] 19:53:14 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 19:53:45 <Nat_aS> oh yeah, andy 19:54:03 <Nat_aS> the big mining truck 19:54:06 <Nat_aS> the futuristic one 19:54:15 <Nat_aS> it looks kinda strange on bridges and in depots 19:54:18 <Nat_aS> because of it's size 19:54:32 <Nat_aS> but you probably know this, and can 19:54:35 *** Firartix [~artixds@2a01:e35:2ee1:7050:762f:68ff:fea5:ba0] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:38 <Nat_aS> can't fix it anyhow 19:54:48 <andythenorth> seen it in a tunnel? 19:54:55 <andythenorth> or sticking out the top of a tunnel? :P 19:54:59 <Nat_aS> it's even worse in tunnels lol. 19:56:14 <andythenorth> hmm 19:56:29 <andythenorth> default trains also have this slightly odd movement from \ to â views 19:56:38 <Nat_aS> at first I thought the other dumptrucks were too small 19:56:47 <Nat_aS> then I realized they were just the right size lol. 19:57:10 <andythenorth> they're as large as can be without insane clipping 19:57:15 <Nat_aS> yes 19:57:24 <Nat_aS> TTD's scale is Chibi anyways 19:57:32 <Nat_aS> Trains are shorter and wider than IRL 19:57:41 <Nat_aS> and roads = houses = train tracks 19:58:20 <Nat_aS> looking cute and being playable are more important than precise scale 19:58:40 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 20:05:48 *** Firartix [~artixds@2a01:e35:2ee1:7050:762f:68ff:fea5:ba0] has joined #openttd 20:12:41 <andythenorth> good night 20:12:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 20:19:29 <__ln__> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2012/06/08/visual-studio-express-2012-for-windows-desktop.aspx?Redirected=true 20:32:19 <Terkhen> good night 20:33:20 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-120-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:19 *** yno [~yno@sd-15014.dedibox.fr] has joined #openttd 20:41:22 <yno> hi 20:42:27 <yno> is it possible to replace old vehicles automatically? I mean, when there is no newer version of the vehicle 20:56:50 <frosch123> http://wiki.openttd.org/Autorenew 20:57:46 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:06:13 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-160-10.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:11:45 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:41:04 *** kais58_ is now known as kais58 21:48:38 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 22:05:35 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:05:43 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:12:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5929.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:17 *** brambles_ [brambles@79.133.200.49] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:14:14 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5929.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:30:20 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f66fe.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:46 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 22:36:01 <Eddi|zuHause> and the winner of todays memory leakage contest is: 22:36:05 <Eddi|zuHause> ... okular! 22:36:39 <Eddi|zuHause> 2GB for a program that sits idle in the background 22:37:10 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:39:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@128-72-90-234.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:43:38 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08fbae.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us] 22:55:56 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:58:18 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:58:47 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:04:17 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0/20120605113340]] 23:09:12 <yno> thanks 23:16:06 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-120-241.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:24 *** Firartix [~artixds@2a01:e35:2ee1:7050:762f:68ff:fea5:ba0] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:19:01 *** Hazzard [~7b7b6b11@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:20:39 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-115-173.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:27:34 *** Firartix [~artixds@2a01:e35:2ee1:7050:762f:68ff:fea5:ba0] has joined #openttd 23:32:24 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-160-10.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38:14 *** kkimlabs__ [~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:33 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.95.166] has joined #openttd