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00:08:02 <Eddi|zuHause> "samsung pays apple with 30 truckloads of 5¢ coins" ... i don't know, something in me screams "fake" at this headline 00:09:07 <glx> it's possible 00:10:36 <Nat_aS> no it's not 00:10:43 <Eddi|zuHause> it sounds unplausible. you don't just go to a bank and say "give me a ton of pennies", that means you must have built up a strategic reserve of coins over some time 00:10:46 <Nat_aS> it's fake and deunked 00:10:50 <glx> I remember an ISP transmitting infos about IPs using printed paper 00:11:06 <Nat_aS> Samsung does not have acess to a billion worth of Nickles 00:11:13 <Nat_aS> not would 30 trucks be enough 00:14:44 <Nat_aS> "according to the United States mint, the total volume of nickels produced in the year 2012 is 679.12 million nickels. At that rate, Samsung has just paid Apple roughly 29.5 years worth of Nickel coin production. " 00:14:55 <Nat_aS> not to menton that samsung dosn't have to pay untill the judge rules 00:14:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i once tried to pay at the dentists 10⬠in coins. they sent me right out the door 00:15:10 <Nat_aS> http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/31/3281361/debunking-apple-samsung-nickel-coin-story 00:15:18 <Nat_aS> and yes, you can refuse currency 00:15:48 <Eddi|zuHause> well, there was a bank downstairs 00:16:16 <Nat_aS> you would need ~1,360 trucks to transport a billion in nickles 00:16:34 <Nat_aS> without violating California state laws 00:22:31 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a bit weird that he starts with volume. with anything solid metal, volume is practically irrelevant. weight is the limiting factor. 00:24:27 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.vc] has quit [] 00:35:35 *** HexDecimal [~4b796c65@99.196.229.195] has joined #openttd 00:36:16 *** CIA-2 [cia@cia.vc] has joined #openttd 00:38:24 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19363.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41:48 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:42:09 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:44:58 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0/20120824154833]] 00:48:24 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 00:50:52 *** Varazir [~mircwars@c-94-255-132-169.cust.bredband2.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:50:54 *** Varazir [~mircwars@c-94-255-132-169.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #openttd 00:55:40 *** peter1138 [~petern@lachesis.fuzzle.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:55:42 *** peter1138 [~petern@lachesis.fuzzle.org] has joined #openttd 00:55:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 01:01:16 *** drayshak [~quassel@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe96:e418] has quit [Server closed connection] 01:01:28 *** drayshak [~quassel@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe96:e418] has joined #openttd 01:06:20 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Server closed connection] 01:06:43 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 01:08:24 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:91f9:7e9a:b854:4ab9] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:26:00 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 01:33:40 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db133b8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us] 01:46:32 *** pjpe [ae5f4731@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 01:46:40 *** pjpe [ae5f4731@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 02:13:23 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-118-10.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:14:28 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-118-10.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 02:28:48 *** Fremen [~muhweb@178-118-106-89.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:29:16 *** Fremen [~muhweb@178-118-106-89.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 02:31:23 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-155-152.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 02:34:53 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Except sound :D 07:47:38 <Terkhen> :) 07:47:47 <Terkhen> my theory for the resets is invalid then 07:48:27 <planetmaker> Terkhen: the openttd session yesterday... I played that on the new debian already ;-) 07:48:47 <Terkhen> nice :P 07:48:50 <Terkhen> it was quite fun 07:48:54 <planetmaker> seems today it forgot about the x-settings somewhat. but that's fixed now, too 07:49:01 <planetmaker> yes, the session was big fun :-) 07:50:01 <planetmaker> Alberth, I get a "svn: Compression of svndiff data failed 07:50:01 <planetmaker> " every few tags 07:51:21 <Alberth> no nice svn co flag to disable compression? 07:51:47 <planetmaker> I didn't check :-) 07:52:04 <planetmaker> But copying the zillions of tags I wonder whether we shouldn't move to a dvcs :-) 07:52:29 *** blathijs [matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 07:52:31 *** blathijs [matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 07:55:21 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 07:55:42 <Terkhen> hi Zuu 07:55:50 <Zuu> Hello Terkhen 07:55:55 <Alberth> hi 07:57:10 <planetmaker> hi Zuu 07:57:33 <Alberth> planetmaker: ideas about an nml cpp? or perhaps, what's missing in the current cpp ? 08:00:10 <Eddi|zuHause> code templates, instead of just graphics templates 08:00:42 <Alberth> multi-line #define ? 08:00:58 <planetmaker> most important is #include 08:00:59 <Eddi|zuHause> something like that... :) 08:01:18 <Alberth> ie #macro(parms) <bunch of lines> #endmacro or so 08:01:32 <planetmaker> and such macros ^ will be very helpful, yes 08:01:43 <Eddi|zuHause> avoid the syntactical ambiguities of cpp 08:02:01 <planetmaker> it would be nice to have the option to join the parameter with a string in a macro similar to the cpp parameters 08:02:22 <planetmaker> but at the same time... that's sometimes a bit awkward 08:02:31 <Alberth> like ## you mean? 08:02:40 <planetmaker> yes 08:02:43 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: what ambiguities? 08:03:22 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: all the hacky stuff that andythenorth so "likes" with the concatenation operator (##) 08:03:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. when the operand is itself a macro 08:03:56 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f50a4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:04:03 <Alberth> hi frosch123 08:04:08 <planetmaker> Alberth, the two important things is: include a file. And make a code template which can e.g. be re-used by many vehicles / industries. The latter needs vehicle-specific switch-names. 08:04:08 <Terkhen> hi frosch123 08:04:11 <planetmaker> moin frosch123 08:04:25 <frosch123> morning everyone :) 08:04:33 <frosch123> didn't know this was so active so early :p 08:04:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm getting ready to go away for the weekend 08:04:53 <Terkhen> :) 08:04:57 <Alberth> planetmaker: the question seems to be how to introduce those names, I think 08:05:11 <Alberth> frosch123: we just fake being active :) 08:05:26 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker, Alberth: imho that should be solved by local scopes 08:05:51 <Alberth> I'd agree, but that's two problems instead of one :( 08:07:10 <Alberth> to me, it seems throwing cpp out is the first step that should be done 08:07:28 <Alberth> once you have that, you can think properly about local vars etc 08:07:50 <Eddi|zuHause> does anybody use conditional compilation? (#if...) 08:08:07 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, that, imho, would be an additional feature 08:08:32 <planetmaker> Not sure it's needed. Unless you really want to create special newgrfs for special platforms 08:08:47 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: unless cets or andy does it, unlikely 08:08:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i have a few instances in CETS 08:09:03 <frosch123> e.g. defining a macro, and then including a file, which depends on the macros to do different things 08:09:10 <frosch123> then undeffing them before next run 08:09:17 <planetmaker> I once toyed with it. But I don't have a real use case at hand 08:09:19 <Eddi|zuHause> but in theory i could move those to the generator, so there are always other solutions 08:09:19 <Alberth> #if could be relatively easy, by using the nml expression evaluation 08:09:54 <Eddi|zuHause> but i gtg now 08:10:02 <Alberth> ok, thanks for the input 08:12:27 <frosch123> question is if you want to prevent users from using cpp in general, or whether you want template-style stuff only as add-on, while still allowing cpp for arbitrary stuff 08:12:47 <planetmaker> frosch123, you cannot forbid the use of cpp 08:13:02 <frosch123> cpp is also used for version defines, and general build frame work -> code insertions 08:13:14 <planetmaker> but if the usual use-case of cpp is covered by nml itself, you can throw away a lot of cruft in the build scripts :-) 08:13:23 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 08:13:26 <planetmaker> and make using it especially on windows much easier 08:13:35 <frosch123> planetmaker: well, i doubt nml would do the readme.ptxt stuff :p 08:13:45 *** szaman [szaman@merkury.cenzor.pl] has quit [Server closed connection] 08:13:47 *** szaman [szaman@merkury.cenzor.pl] has joined #openttd 08:13:52 <Eddi|zuHause> like planetmaker said, "#include" is the most important for the average useer 08:13:53 <frosch123> hmm... unless nml writes tars and includes those doc files 08:14:19 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 08:14:21 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 08:14:23 <planetmaker> frosch123, I could insert the version also without resorting to cpp, I think. Like if NML accepts defines at command line time :-) 08:14:58 <frosch123> wasn't there already something like custom_tags ? 08:14:59 <planetmaker> after all... I cannot do without a makefile. Which could write the grf block for instance with the proper version. But without cpp 08:15:08 <planetmaker> there is. Indeed. that can be used 08:15:22 <planetmaker> though... might only be for strings. Not the version in the grf block 08:15:54 <frosch123> so custom tags would need extending for constant values in the code 08:16:49 <planetmaker> frosch123, generally it will be nice to maybe have an alias definition. But that could be covered by a general #define 08:16:58 <planetmaker> which would do e.g. for the grf version 08:20:10 *** HexDecimal2 [~4b796c65@99.196.229.195] has joined #openttd 08:21:20 *** HexDecimal [~4b796c65@99.196.229.195] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32:18 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-118-10.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 08:33:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19596.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:37:57 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 08:38:10 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 08:43:08 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 08:53:04 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-170-205-142.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:04:34 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 09:08:42 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-155-152.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 09:13:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host218-143-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:14:17 <Wolf01> hello 09:14:59 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-101-84-131.customer.schedom-europe.net] has joined #openttd 09:15:37 *** sla_ro|vista [~slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 09:16:03 <Terkhen> hi Wolf01 09:17:02 <Alberth> moin 09:18:09 <planetmaker> hi Wolf01 09:19:40 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:36:12 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.69.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:36:15 *** Trainfucker [57cde9b3@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:37:59 *** Markavian [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:38:14 <Trainfucker> Hello I have a problem with OpenTTD 09:38:55 *** Strid [~Strid@c-a1cfe455.04-372-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Server closed connection] 09:39:17 *** Strid [~Strid@c-a1cfe455.04-372-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 09:39:31 <__ln__> come back when you have learned to choose an appropriate nick 09:43:05 <planetmaker> __ln__, is totally right :-) 09:52:01 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@524A7DE2.cm-4-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 09:52:13 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@524A7DE2.cm-4-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:52:41 <Wolf01> now... I'll try how playable is OpenTTD on my brand new eee Slate 09:54:25 <Wolf01> copy data from transport tycoon deluxe cd-rom... but, I can't :( 09:54:34 <Terkhen> use opengfx then :P 09:54:46 <Trainfucker> My nick is fine 09:54:54 <Trainfucker> If you tell me to change my nick then you are jelaous 09:55:08 <Trainfucker> But if you don't want to know anything about a game-breaking bug then it's your own problem then 09:55:14 <V453000> LOL 09:55:17 *** Trainfucker [57cde9b3@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 09:55:29 <Wolf01> ah, game breaking bug 09:55:40 <Wolf01> kids 09:55:47 <V453000> I assume the bug was that he cant build signals on a bridge 09:56:48 <Wolf01> ehm, I don't have the right mouse button :( 09:57:20 <Terkhen> that was my biggest problem when I tried the android port :P 09:59:56 <V453000> lol 10:00:02 <Wolf01> we should implement the "long click menu", like in windows CE 10:00:23 <frosch123> what do you need the rmb for? 10:00:29 <frosch123> we have left-click scrolling 10:00:32 <Alberth> as in 'hoover delay' ? :) 10:00:55 <frosch123> there is exactly one feature in the game, which need the rmb 10:01:03 <frosch123> and that is the consist info the depot gui 10:01:23 <frosch123> and then you also need a ctrl key to make really use of it :p 10:01:24 <Wolf01> but I don't have ctrl too 10:01:30 <frosch123> well, thaT 10:01:33 * Terkhen was not able to change the advanced settings in android because the window did not fit the screen 10:01:35 <frosch123> 's a problem then :) 10:02:41 <Wolf01> ok, the game is well playable, the only problem is the ctrl (after switching to left mb scrolling) 10:03:38 <Terkhen> is there anything that could be used to simulate it? I have never used a tablet 10:05:04 * Hirundo didn't know about the use of the rmb in the depot window 10:05:36 <frosch123> it's one of the best hidden features :) 10:05:42 <frosch123> also the only case of ctrl+rmb ever :) 10:06:01 <planetmaker> lol... installing debian's "testing" version of "the best" photo software for linux... it now downloads 1GByte of stuff 10:06:17 <Terkhen> I only know about it because frosch mentioned it while we were discussing the hover tooltips feature 10:06:29 <Hirundo> is it (best hidden)-features or best-(hidden features) ? 10:06:35 <frosch123> planetmaker: sounds like it included the best phohos ever, and just replaces you photo with one from the gallery 10:06:50 <Hirundo> Or both :P ? 10:06:52 <Terkhen> planetmaker: it is probably downloading newer versions of all dependencies :P 10:06:55 <Terkhen> Hirundo: both, I guess 10:06:59 <planetmaker> :-) There are no photos on this machine yet :-P 10:07:05 <planetmaker> Terkhen, exactly that 10:07:12 <planetmaker> which is like whole of kde and stuff 10:07:25 <planetmaker> obviously also gcc... :D 10:07:35 <Terkhen> oh, downloading stuff from another DE, that's fun 10:08:07 <planetmaker> like the available version in stable is like offering openttd 0.7 now 10:08:20 <planetmaker> which just doesn't cut it 10:08:23 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08fe45.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:09:03 <Wolf01> <Terkhen> is there anything that could be used to simulate it? I have never used a tablet <- the only thing I can think about is an hardware button :P 10:09:07 <Terkhen> debian is meant to be safe and stable... for many apps that's fine, but for games it is not 10:09:45 <Wolf01> at least on my smartphone when I need to use the rmb on the scummvm I use one of the volume buttons 10:10:08 <Wolf01> the other one toggles the "hovering" 10:10:51 <Terkhen> openttd could show a small button at one of the bottom corners which simulates holding Ctrl, but I don't know if most touchscreens allow you to touch at two places at once 10:11:02 <Terkhen> it's the only solution I can come up with, and it sounds hacky 10:11:39 <__ln__> it would need to be a togglable button 10:11:44 <planetmaker> ^ 10:12:13 <planetmaker> hm, seems I just update my whole system to testing. oh well 10:12:14 <Hirundo> IMO all ctrl-features should be achievable by different means, though I don't know how feasible that is 10:12:15 <__ln__> but even then i bet it would be tedious to use ottd on a touchscreen 10:12:21 <frosch123> well, considering how often it was suggested to switch ctrl and non-ctrl behaviour, we might generally add a ctrl-lock button :p 10:12:49 <planetmaker> a general mode switch button in the main toolbar? 10:13:10 <Terkhen> of course, it would be yet another advanced setting, the button should not appear if you are not using a touchscreen 10:13:11 <planetmaker> which has the lock functionality like the visibility toolbar? 10:13:21 <planetmaker> and switches automatically when using ctrl (unless locked)? 10:13:22 <Wolf01> I think this way is the most practical: radial context menu on 3 second click 10:14:29 <frosch123> Terkhen: i thought about also offering for non touch-screens :p 10:14:35 <frosch123> just for ctrl-lock :p 10:14:46 <frosch123> resp. ctrl-invert 10:14:48 <Terkhen> that could be fine, as long as it does not appear by default 10:14:54 <Wolf01> and if I want to play with a joypad? 10:15:26 <Terkhen> good luck? 10:15:28 <Terkhen> :P 10:25:05 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:25:29 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:56:33 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:57:48 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 11:00:22 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 11:09:29 <SCHNELLKOCHTOPF> Morning. 11:09:36 *** SCHNELLKOCHTOPF is now known as NGC3982 11:12:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19596.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:15:13 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 11:15:47 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-253-89-11.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 11:18:25 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-117-87.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:18:30 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:19:39 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-117-87.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:29:37 *** Fremen [~muhweb@178-118-106-89.access.telenet.be] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:29:42 *** Fremen [~muhweb@178-118-106-89.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:30:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6B686.versanet.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:31:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B686.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:32:53 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:33:46 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 11:46:53 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-253-89-11.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 11:50:26 *** andythenorth [~Andy@2002:4d66:7022:0:9149:6594:7478:9244] has joined #openttd 11:51:26 *** andythenorth [~Andy@2002:4d66:7022:0:9149:6594:7478:9244] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:52:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:53:54 <andythenorth> bonsoir 11:55:02 <Terkhen> hi andythenorth 11:57:45 <Squire> Morning. I overslept again. There has to be something wrong with me. I went to bed at 22:00, awake at 12:30, what the crap? 11:58:48 <Zuu> Squire: Write a python script that start a music file at a given time and remember to not turn of the computer or lound speakers. :-) 11:59:35 <Squire> hehe, I could do that. I actually had a vB alarm clock I made at college. Lost it in a HDD crash years back 12:00:27 <Zuu> Most todays cell phones get the sound muffed if you accidently put them on a carpet or a book or anything else that absorbs the sound. 12:00:54 <Squire> and I had the weirdest dream that I was being chased around a lake by Sean Connery. I am beginning to think that my wife might have drugged me 12:03:32 <NGC3982> Bah. 12:04:35 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.66.137] has joined #openttd 12:04:49 <planetmaker> she has. it's called hormones, Squire 12:05:15 <NGC3982> A OpenTTD classic: Using the viewport to plant large distances of rail. Using the terraform tool to fix a "minor mountain" resulting in spending 650 billion USD on accidently terraforming the whole map. 12:05:32 <frosch123> planetmaker: are you sure that would spawn sean connery? 12:06:07 <planetmaker> frosch123: I'm only sure it would not work for me. But who knows how it works for others :-) 12:06:26 * NGC3982 takes this as a sign for breakfest 12:06:49 <planetmaker> NGC3982: I'm really not sure how that can happen 12:07:33 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.66.137] has joined #openttd 12:10:33 <Fremen> :o 12:10:53 <Squire> I blame pheromones (pheramones?) 12:11:45 *** M1zera [~Miranda@84.95.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 12:12:43 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.66.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:18:49 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:45c3:cb5:d28a:19ec] has joined #openttd 12:18:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:25:33 <NGC3982> planetmaker: http://i.imgur.com/PtY7T.png 12:25:49 <NGC3982> Accidently moving the pointer to the viewport while terraforming locally. 12:26:12 <glx> it's a feature :) 12:26:22 <NGC3982> Yes, of course. 12:26:35 <glx> just press shift before releasing the button 12:27:57 <NGC3982> It's not like i know how to do it properly. 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still need wagons? 16:07:42 <Elukka> can't guarantee that i'd get anything done though... 16:08:03 <Elukka> and is it now 32bpp? i looked at it a while back and kinda noticed oberhÌmer's colors don't match up with the ones in my old sprites now at all 16:14:13 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:16:34 *** APTX_ [APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:240:63ff:fefb:5994] has joined #openttd 16:16:47 *** APTX [APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:240:63ff:fefb:5994] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:05 *** Fremen [~muhweb@178-118-106-89.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:09 *** Fremen [~muhweb@178-118-106-89.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:36:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:18:37 *** Guilux [~Guilux@chenapan.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:39 <Guilux> hi 17:20:56 <Zuu> hello Guilux 17:26:52 <Muxy> Guilux: sounds like some schmilblik 17:29:15 *** GuiLuux [~Guilux@chenapan.net] has joined #openttd 17:29:20 *** Guilux [~Guilux@chenapan.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:30 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-170-205-142.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:40:26 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:45:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24504 /trunk/src/lang/russian.txt: 17:45:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: russian - 2 changes by Lone_Wolf 17:49:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: zuu * r24505 /trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp: -Add: Select the GS tab if all AI tabs are unselectable in the AI debug window. 17:51:04 <andythenorth> anyone played a big FIRS game recently? 17:51:14 <andythenorth> trying to figure out if anyone *ever* uses Fertiliser Plant 17:51:20 * andythenorth suspects not 17:54:42 <frosch123> what does it produce? 17:55:03 <andythenorth> FMSP 17:55:05 <andythenorth> from chemicals 17:55:40 <andythenorth> it's a 3rd-step processing industry 17:55:52 <Zuu> If you remove it you will notice if anyone was using it before. :-) 17:55:57 <andythenorth> I am thinking of either removing it, or doing an evil inspired by Pikka 17:56:45 <frosch123> so, we need a nocargoal game with fmsp 17:56:58 <frosch123> then someone will use it 17:58:08 <andythenorth> thinking...8t chemicals delivered = 16t output....fertiliser is fixed from atmospheric nitrogen 17:58:11 <andythenorth> pikka's idea ;P 17:58:37 <andythenorth> also I have a nice idea for supplies mechanic, but can't figure out how I would explain it in game 18:00:19 <andythenorth> currently, production increase is a random chance at the end of every month, if at least 1t supplies delivered that month 18:00:35 <andythenorth> and if successful, production multiplier is incremented by 1 18:00:48 <andythenorth> and never falls, unless you have a silly parameter choice 18:01:00 <andythenorth> which is a nice idea, but slow 18:01:02 <frosch123> well, we still failed with milk :) 18:01:22 <frosch123> and if it is too fast, you cannot play longer than for 10 years 18:01:26 <andythenorth> also the range is silly, farms start with ~50t and go to 300t or so 18:01:46 <andythenorth> I want to simplify the whole thing 18:02:05 <andythenorth> deliver 30t, get a 2x production increase that lasts 3 months 18:02:16 <andythenorth> deliver 120t get a 4x production increase that lasts 3 months 18:02:18 *** Markavian [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:02:44 <andythenorth> at the end of the 3 month period, production reverts to 100% unless more supplies delivered 18:02:45 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:02:49 <andythenorth> farmers are more gung ho :) 18:03:21 <andythenorth> might suck in testing, but it's my favourite of the many supplies ideas so far 18:03:37 <andythenorth> I think it's way more suitable for NoCarGoal type GS play 18:05:02 <andythenorth> just need time to code it for testing :P 18:05:14 <andythenorth> unless anyone else wants to patch FIRS o_O 18:05:46 <frosch123> yeah, non permanant production changes might also work 18:06:44 <andythenorth> one of the (many) defects of the current system is that after a few years of FMSP production, there is a huge excess of them on the map 18:07:02 <andythenorth> if I play ~70 years, I end up with 1000's of tonnes of FMSP unused, waiting at stations 18:07:11 <andythenorth> anyway /me -> food :) 18:07:14 <andythenorth> bbl 18:07:25 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:14:08 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:19:22 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-170-205-142.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:28:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:38 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-118-10.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:49:02 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 19:02:35 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:26:41 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.64] has joined #openttd 19:27:38 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-120-175.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 19:31:48 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.66.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:36:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r24506 /trunk/src/newgrf_station.cpp: -Fix: Airport variables 60 to 65 an 69 used the wrong CTT for translations. (Alberth) 19:40:40 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:40:59 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 19:43:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r24507 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#5285]: The mousewheel did not work in the build waypoint window. (sbr) 19:45:19 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 19:54:25 <frosch123> night 19:54:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f50a4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07:26 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 20:14:57 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@127-062-045-062.static.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 20:15:28 *** Xaroth is now known as Guest5309 20:19:48 *** drayshak [~quassel@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe96:e418] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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