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00:00:40 <Supercheese> err, hmm 00:00:48 <Supercheese> does NML have a mask() function? 00:01:01 <Supercheese> guess I can try it first 00:02:23 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-020-161.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 00:03:34 <Supercheese> or bit shifting? urg 00:04:26 <Supercheese> I'm wanting to extract the cargo subtype from extra_callback_info1 00:04:40 <Supercheese> which "contains information about the target cargo type in the format 0xccccsstt" 00:04:44 <Supercheese> I'm interested in the "ss" 00:05:07 <Supercheese> do I have to do something like the "<<" operation? 00:09:58 <Supercheese> I'm thinking I do 00:10:11 <Supercheese> and I shall try it 00:11:40 <Bad_Brett> are you working on the subway mod? 00:11:46 <Supercheese> yes 00:11:56 <Bad_Brett> cool 00:12:14 <Bad_Brett> looking forward to try it 00:12:19 <Supercheese> :) 00:12:51 <Bad_Brett> if you get the time, perhaps you could try eddi's patch because i couldn't get it to work (which probably is due to some mistake i did) :) 00:13:04 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: there are occasionally special functions to decompose these things 00:13:05 <Supercheese> yeah, been interested in that 00:13:27 <Supercheese> I'm trying to compute the difference between the current cargo subtype and the target subtype 00:13:35 <Supercheese> something like: 00:13:37 <Supercheese> (extra_callback_info1 << 4) - cargo_subtype 00:13:43 <Supercheese> if that operator does what I think it does 00:14:46 <Eddi|zuHause> that is probably wrong 00:15:00 <Supercheese> Or I suppose I could accomplish roughly the same thing by testing to see if the Nth vehicle's capacity 00:15:08 <Supercheese> is equal to 0 or not 00:15:37 <Eddi|zuHause> you cannot query Nth vehicle during callbacks 00:15:45 <Supercheese> which will essentially return the current refitted length (which is based on cargo subtype) 00:15:48 <Supercheese> oh nevermind then 00:16:12 <Eddi|zuHause> because you cannot be sure that the callback might change the Nth vehicle 00:17:43 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, you could try "var[0x10,8,0xFF]" or similar 00:18:12 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 00:18:26 <Supercheese> var[0x10,8,0xFF] - cargo_subtype 00:18:34 <Supercheese> would return the difference I'm seeking? 00:19:47 <Eddi|zuHause> no guarantees 00:24:58 <Supercheese> well, it compiled 00:25:14 <Supercheese> now to see if it works 00:25:53 <Supercheese> Huzzah, it does 00:26:02 <Supercheese> thanks :D 00:27:58 <Supercheese> Although it looks rather silly to see "Cost of refit: {red}-,680" 00:28:19 <Supercheese> it functions as desired 00:30:13 <Eddi|zuHause> that is probably worth a bug report 00:30:24 <Supercheese> Yep 00:30:35 <Supercheese> I'll get to it after I finish adding these switch blocks 00:32:37 <Supercheese> Sheesh, it amazes me how small compiled .grfs are 00:32:54 <Supercheese> stuff is packed very efficiently in there 00:34:41 <Eddi|zuHause> well CETS is several MB :) 00:34:56 <Supercheese> but it can compress into a tiny .7z 00:34:57 <Eddi|zuHause> even though the source is only several 100 kB :) 00:35:28 <Supercheese> Well, I just proved a section of the NML tutorial false 00:35:35 <Supercheese> guess I have to edit it now to fix it :P 00:36:09 <Supercheese> Refitting to change # of parts: "There's no way to charge the user for puchasing the extra vehicle part." 00:36:18 <Supercheese> But I just did! :D 00:37:12 <Eddi|zuHause> the tutorial is possibly older than the refit cost callback 00:37:17 <Supercheese> it is indeed 00:37:25 <Supercheese> hence why I'll update it once I'm sure of my method 00:37:29 <Eddi|zuHause> and quite certainly older than the ability to charge negative cost 00:37:43 <Supercheese> although perhaps I should file the bug report first 00:37:48 <Supercheese> sheesh, so much to do @_@ 00:40:05 <Supercheese> I also have to work on my university homework T_T 00:40:23 <Supercheese> too bad I'm not a comp sci major, maybe I could be getting credit for this :P 00:45:11 <Supercheese> Oh snap another problem: you build the vehicle, add carriages via refit, are charged for those carriages, but you aren't refunded that cost when you sell the vehicle 00:45:37 <Supercheese> workaround is to refit back down to the default smallest before sale 00:46:00 <Supercheese> then you are refunded 00:46:32 <Supercheese> and even then, if you have an old vehicle, you can "sell" those carriages via refit for the same cost as you paid 00:46:41 <Supercheese> no depreciation 00:53:04 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: i have no solution for the first problem, but the vehicle value you can get from var 0xDC 00:55:24 <Eddi|zuHause> so you can solve the second problem by scaling the refit cost by *current_vehicle_value/orig_vehicle_value [those variables do not exist (yet)] 00:56:01 <Supercheese> what formula does the game use to depreciate old vehicles? 00:56:19 <Eddi|zuHause> "49 B Incremented daily, when the low 3 bits are zero (i.e. every 8 days) vehicle's value is reduced by 1/256" 00:56:25 <Supercheese> I figure taking whatever depreciation value is used, multiplying by vehicle age, and subtracting that from the refit refuding 00:56:28 <Supercheese> might work too 00:57:00 <Supercheese> Every 8 days, the vehicle value decreases by 1/256? 00:57:05 <Eddi|zuHause> that is an exponential function, so you likely cannot reproduce it through NFO/NML 00:57:33 <Supercheese> So the vehicle loses .39% of its current value every 8 days 00:57:38 <Supercheese> if my logic is correct 00:57:41 <Eddi|zuHause> at least that is what i think, not actually checked 00:58:09 <Supercheese> problem is that .39% is recursive, depending on current value at each of those steps 00:58:17 <Supercheese> :\ 00:58:30 <Supercheese> or wait 00:58:34 <Eddi|zuHause> that is what i just said 00:58:40 <Supercheese> is the vehicle value that is looked up by that variable 00:58:43 <Supercheese> the current value anyway 00:58:58 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that is the current value 01:00:00 <Eddi|zuHause> src/vehicle.cpp:1071: v->value -= v->value >> 8; 01:00:46 <Eddi|zuHause> that line probably hasn't been touched in a long time 01:00:53 *** fjb [~frank@93.223.219.204] has joined #openttd 01:01:04 <Eddi|zuHause> so it's using shifts instead of arithmetics 01:01:49 <Eddi|zuHause> but x>>8 is equivalent to x/256 (as long as x is positive, at least) 01:02:01 <Supercheese> Well for my grf the refit cost is very closely related to the purchase cost 01:02:08 <Supercheese> that might help 01:02:29 <Supercheese> adding 2 more carriages costs virtually the same as buying another copy of the vehicle 01:02:40 <Supercheese> so if I take vehicle current value, divide by 2 01:02:50 <Supercheese> that should be the depreciated sale value of one carriage 01:03:06 <Supercheese> (the vehicle is initially purchased as a 2-car consist) 01:03:29 <Supercheese> refittable between 2-8 carriages 01:03:42 <Supercheese> lemme try that logic, see if it works 01:04:30 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:09:55 <Supercheese> Or maybe not divided by 2, since I guess for articulated vehicles that variable returns only 1 vehicle's value? 01:09:58 <Supercheese> seemingly, anyhow 01:12:37 <Supercheese> Oh jeez, that's not it 01:12:45 <Supercheese> the value seems to be fluctuating wildly 01:12:59 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc ln(255/256)/3/ln(2) 01:12:59 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: Error: 'ln' is not a defined function. 01:13:10 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc log(255/256)/3/log(2) 01:13:11 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: -0.00188218771371 01:13:35 <Supercheese> oh the value isn't a byte 01:13:42 <Supercheese> it's a "long", or some such 01:13:44 <Supercheese> L 01:13:54 <Supercheese> 0xFFFF? 01:14:10 <Eddi|zuHause> internally it's a "long long", but NFO/NML cannot handle that, so it is clamped to "long" 01:14:50 <Eddi|zuHause> no, byte: FF, word: FFFF, long [or double word]: FFFFFFFF 01:14:56 <Supercheese> oh, dang 01:14:58 <Supercheese> even longer 01:15:12 <Eddi|zuHause> and long long would be FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 01:15:21 <Supercheese> 0_0 01:15:46 <Supercheese> var[0xDC,0,0xFFFFFFFF] , then 01:15:53 <Eddi|zuHause> it doubles each time :) 01:16:11 <Eddi|zuHause> that looks correct 01:16:25 <Supercheese> (probably shoulda asked that first :P ) 01:16:57 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: articulated parts likely have a value of 0 01:17:29 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure about the rear end of a dual headed vehicle 01:17:36 <Eddi|zuHause> that may have a value 01:18:03 *** fjb [~frank@93.223.219.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:18:07 <Supercheese> yeah, I was presuming incorrectly 01:18:15 <Supercheese> since I was masking for a byte, not a long 01:19:31 <Supercheese> oh sheesh, the value's all over the place now again 01:20:28 <Supercheese> hmm 01:20:29 <Eddi|zuHause> that usually means you changed the wrong part of the code, or you did not compile, or you did not reload after compile 01:20:44 <Supercheese> overflow issue perhaps? 01:21:00 <Supercheese> I'm multiplying the returned long value by up to 6 01:21:10 <Supercheese> and that's returned as the max refit refund 01:21:15 <Eddi|zuHause> it overflows when it reaches 2 billion pound 01:21:20 <Supercheese> not that, then 01:21:31 <Eddi|zuHause> oh wait 01:21:36 <Eddi|zuHause> you have callback result 01:21:38 <Supercheese> within the switch block 01:21:39 <Supercheese> yes 01:21:41 <Eddi|zuHause> that is only 15 bit 01:21:45 <Supercheese> overflow? 01:22:02 <Eddi|zuHause> so 16 thousand pound? 01:22:19 <Supercheese> yeah, the max values are decidedly more than that 01:22:51 <Supercheese> ~8,000 max values 01:23:00 <Eddi|zuHause> then that needs further investigation, which i cannot do right now 01:23:39 <Supercheese> All right, thanks for your help 01:23:44 <Supercheese> :) 01:24:25 <Supercheese> brb 01:25:03 *** Biolunar_ [~mahdi@blfd-5d82380b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 01:28:26 *** Biolunar_ [~mahdi@blfd-5d82380b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [] 01:29:19 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db13197.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:44:05 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.93.183] has joined #openttd 01:47:14 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0/20120824154833]] 01:49:38 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3d96:da43:5ad0:65aa] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:05:25 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-56-137.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 02:05:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 02:10:42 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-107-127.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:30:12 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 02:36:43 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:37:19 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 03:23:04 *** CIA-2 [cia@cia.vc] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:37:46 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 03:43:59 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 03:44:14 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 03:56:31 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 04:00:55 *** Kylie|2 [kvirc@CPE18593346e177-CM18593346e174.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 04:02:19 *** ivan` [~ivan`@li125-242.members.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:29 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 04:03:09 *** ivan` [~ivan`@li125-242.members.linode.com] has joined #openttd 04:03:36 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:03:36 *** Zeknurn` is now known as Zeknurn 04:07:16 *** Kylie [kvirc@CPE18593346e177-CM18593346e174.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:15:25 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 04:29:00 <Supercheese> Sheesh, the devzone is really, really slow for me 04:30:49 *** ivan` [~ivan`@li125-242.members.linode.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:30:56 *** ivan` [~ivan`@li125-242.members.linode.com] has joined #openttd 04:44:39 <Supercheese> Hmm, I don't understand how this C preprocessor is supposed to work 04:46:32 <Supercheese> Oh perhaps I need backslashes 04:46:36 <Supercheese> at ends of lines 04:49:56 <Supercheese> Nope, dunno how to work this 04:50:34 <Supercheese> Wonder if anyone build a GUI for a C preprocessor... :P 04:50:38 <Supercheese> built* 04:53:29 <Supercheese> I get how #include works, but not #define 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4CF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67B08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:16:01 <Supercheese> @seen Pikka 05:16:01 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Pikka was last seen in #openttd 16 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 41 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Pikka> hello Alberth 05:16:20 <Supercheese> dang, that is a long time 05:22:44 <Supercheese> Oh, I should probably add variable running costs, like in UKRS 05:23:46 <Supercheese> sheesh, code bloating to enormity, time to #include stuff 05:43:52 <Supercheese> much better 05:44:21 <Supercheese> still wish I could figure out this #define wizardry though 05:44:30 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 05:47:05 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:14:45 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFF372.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:14:53 <fjb> Moin 06:27:29 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-109-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 06:27:56 <Supercheese> Hmm, maybe I won't add variable running costs 06:28:19 <Supercheese> anyone really like/dislike that feature from UKRS? or are ambivalent? 06:31:26 * fjb likes it. 06:31:47 <Supercheese> Yeah, I do to, I should at least try first :P 06:31:53 <Supercheese> but 06:31:55 * Supercheese is sleepy 06:32:22 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.71.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:32:31 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.76.211] has joined #openttd 06:36:59 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@79-68-110-227.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 06:37:30 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-109-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:42:07 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.76.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:43:21 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-111-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 06:48:16 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-96-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 06:48:33 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@79-68-110-227.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:50:50 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-125-133.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:52:57 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-111-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:53:39 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 06:54:08 <Supercheese> Too sleepy, can't keep working 06:54:17 <Supercheese> looks like release won't happen today 06:54:40 <__ln__> too early to say that before 10am 06:54:53 <Supercheese> It's 5 mins to midnight here 06:55:41 <Bad_Brett> hehe 06:57:09 <Supercheese> night all 06:57:18 <Bad_Brett> good morning :) 06:57:26 <Supercheese> heh 06:57:33 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 06:57:47 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-96-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 06:57:56 <Terkhen> good morning 06:58:46 *** guru3_ [~guru3@90-224-111-173-no225.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 06:59:48 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-96-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:59:48 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-224-111-173-no225.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:22 *** Strid [~Strid@c-a1cfe455.04-372-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:45 *** Strid [~Strid@c-a1cfe455.04-372-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 07:01:21 <Bad_Brett> i was wondering... is there any way to change the newspaper text that shows a new vehicle becomes available... since I don't intend to use aircrafts, I was wondering if I could use the notices for new aircrafts as some kind of economic reports, such as "Recession expected" and then increase the running cost of all vehicles for a couple of years 07:01:34 <NGC3982> Morning. 07:01:50 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFF372.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:01:59 <__ln__> Bad_Brett: the plural of aircraft is aircraft 07:02:29 <NGC3982> One aircraft, a bunch of aircraft? 07:02:37 <__ln__> correctomundo 07:02:46 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:03:00 <NGC3982> That sounds non-intuitive at first glance. 07:03:33 <__ln__> not more than one sheep, twenty sheep 07:03:43 <NGC3982> Sheepers. 07:03:44 <NGC3982> :D 07:05:15 <NGC3982> OR sheeplets. 07:06:23 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.93.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:06:53 <Bad_Brett> Interesting... 07:07:01 <Bad_Brett> "The nonstandard plural form aircrafts is also in use among both non-native speakers of English and those who work in the aviation industry." 07:07:34 <Bad_Brett> so it seems to be a rather common missunderstanding 07:07:48 <NGC3982> The word simply sounds like it's plural form should be used like that. 07:09:20 <Bad_Brett> even the airlines in my country write "aircrafts"... http://www.malmoaviation.se/en/airbrokers/aircrafts 07:09:41 <NGC3982> I was just abut to make a reference to the swedish "plurality" 07:09:56 <NGC3982> Where rules of any kind no longer apply, for some reason. 07:10:26 <Bad_Brett> example? :) 07:10:37 <NGC3982> Apelsin > apelsiner, sko > skor, pakethållare > pakethållare 07:11:50 <Terkhen> Bad_Brett: you can use GS to display news, but I don't know if they can modify costs 07:13:08 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.67.23] has joined #openttd 07:13:34 <Bad_Brett> @Terkhen: I was thinking of doing that with switch blocks for my vehicles... I just thought it would be nice if I could inform the player about the new economic situation :) 07:13:35 <Terkhen> also, IIRC some old setting activated recession-like events 07:14:30 <Bad_Brett> Ok cool... I'll try to look it up 07:15:22 <Terkhen> I don't think that changing costs for all vehicles at the same time is possible in newgrf... displaying news certainly isn't 07:16:07 <Terkhen> that kind of events fall in the game script domain 07:16:16 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.130.33] has joined #openttd 07:17:53 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-96-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:20:39 <Bad_Brett> can't I change the running_cost_factor depending on the current year? Because otherwise I'll just write an algorithm that changes this property on all my vehicles... of course it won't work if you combine it with other newgrfs 07:24:00 <Bad_Brett> NGC3982: I don't get it... aren't those rather logical? most words that end with "are" have the same plural form, such as "tÀndare", "pundare", "snickare"... and most words that end with "in" seem to end with -er such as "mandarin, kretin, maskin, pingvin"... 07:26:30 <NGC3982> Yes, that is the usual rules 07:28:33 <NGC3982> But a fair bit of all the formations are irregular 07:28:52 <NGC3982> gås > gÀss, dotter > döttrar, bok > böcker 07:28:54 <NGC3982> And so on. 07:29:33 <Bad_Brett> unlike goose > geese :) 07:30:50 <NGC3982> :) 07:51:44 <Terkhen> Bad_Brett: you can change it on a predefined, hardcoded year, but I don't know any way of choosing a random year and then using the same random value for different vehicle types 07:54:12 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:55:27 <Bad_Brett> Since I'm intending to a history based scenario, I think it might work to use predefined years... it's mostly about adding some extra spice to the game so that it doesn't become too easy and boring after the first 5 years 08:16:13 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:16:18 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 08:20:46 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:22:38 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:23:06 <Terkhen> Bad_Brett: you should check game scripts then :) 08:23:07 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: all this history stuff may be usefull for a scenario/gamescript combination 08:23:37 <Eddi|zuHause> so it should probably be kept out of the GRF 08:23:39 <Terkhen> IIRC there is a scenario/GS bundle already 08:25:04 <Eddi|zuHause> the scenario would include the GRF and the GameScript, but the GRF could also be used standalone. whether the GameScript would be usable standalone is for you to decide when writing it. 08:27:01 <Terkhen> you can use the GS to define random events and goals associated specifically to your scenario 08:33:19 * NGC3982 longs for a drive-trough depot. 08:33:22 <peter1138> morning 08:33:36 <peter1138> NGC3982, for cattle? 08:42:15 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:43:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C79D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:44:13 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:48:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.173.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:58:24 <NGC3982> For anything. 08:58:56 <NGC3982> Im sure there is a good reason for it. But for some reason, the depots feel under-developed. 08:59:23 <NGC3982> In a fun-things-i-usually-find-in-NewGRF kind of way. 08:59:33 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.130.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:59:58 <peter1138> Fancy a project? 09:01:18 <NGC3982> Can depots be altered just as station graphic NewGRF's? 09:01:28 <peter1138> No. 09:01:40 <peter1138> They're part of the rail type graphics, IIRC. 09:01:54 <NGC3982> __ln__: When i write as above, should it be "as station graphics NewGRF's" or "as station graphic NewGRF's"? 09:01:54 <__ln__> NGC3982: Please place the apostrophe where it belongs, not where it doesn't. 09:01:57 <NGC3982> peter1138: I see. 09:02:11 <NGC3982> NewGRFs? 09:02:25 <__ln__> Yes. And "I'm". 09:02:58 <__ln__> The first one of the two, I would say. 09:03:04 <NGC3982> Oh, that's supposed to be "im"? 09:03:10 <NGC3982> Ok. 09:03:41 <__ln__> There's no such word as "im" in English as far as I know. 09:03:52 <NGC3982> So I'm is correct? 09:04:26 <__ln__> It is. You just wrote "Im" earlier. 09:04:32 <NGC3982> Oh 09:04:37 <NGC3982> I have no idea 09:04:40 <NGC3982> Of anything, apparently. 09:04:55 <peter1138> __ln__, it im wif an ammer 09:05:19 <__ln__> NGC3982: But typing "NewGRF's" revealed that you indeed have a functioning apostrophe key on your keyboard. :) 09:05:26 <NGC3982> peter1138: Might that explain why there are so few depot NewGRFs, relative to the amount of station graphic NewGRFs? 09:05:33 <NGC3982> __ln__: :-P 09:05:44 <NGC3982> __ln__: It's (Its?) a bit confusing. 09:05:53 <__ln__> It's 09:05:54 <peter1138> I don't know, maybe people don't care much about depots. 09:06:33 <NGC3982> When i take a look at the swedish service system (InfraNord) and depots, there is alot of flavour and history embedded. 09:06:38 <peter1138> __ln__, did you spot my mistake there? 09:06:56 <NGC3982> Hm 09:07:16 <NGC3982> __ln__: If you might explain: "I am" > Im, but "It is" to "It's"? 09:07:17 <NGC3982> :E 09:07:24 <peter1138> No. 09:07:31 <peter1138> I am -> I'm. It is -> It's 09:07:58 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.130.33] has joined #openttd 09:08:07 <NGC3982> This situation turned oxymoronic. 09:08:20 <NGC3982> Oh 09:08:26 <NGC3982> No, it didn't. 09:08:35 <__ln__> peter1138: I wouldn't be deliberately looking from mistakes in others' text, would I? 09:08:46 <peter1138> __ln__, surely not :-) 09:08:55 <__ln__> from -> for, even 09:09:03 <peter1138> __ln__, but did you, now that I've asked? 09:09:23 <peter1138> DID YOU SPILL MY PINT? 09:09:46 <NGC3982> Oh god yes, pint. 09:09:55 * NGC3982 is on vacation and found beer in the fridge. 09:10:07 <peter1138> Found. 09:10:13 <__ln__> If you're referring to the "wif an ammer" sentence, it was gibberish; otherwise I didn't spot an error, no. 09:10:49 <peter1138> I was thinking that I separated two sentences with a comma instead of full-stop, but now I'm not sure. 09:11:24 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/DXsXV.png 09:11:29 <NGC3982> This will not go well. 09:11:53 <__ln__> Dunno if it's a mistake in such a short piece of text. 09:16:15 <peter1138> Don't make me want to play OpenTTD again... :S 09:21:22 <NGC3982> peter1138: :(? 09:22:50 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 09:23:53 <peter1138> Hmm? 09:24:27 <__ln__> Curious that recent versions of OS X come with subversion preinstalled. 09:25:52 <__ln__> Even most Linux distros don't. 09:33:29 <NGC3982> peter1138: Why on earth did you stop wanting it in the first place. :P 09:53:40 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: maybe you want to explore the magic of autorefit (needs updated train set) 09:54:22 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: also you might want to explore the magic of Ctrl+S 09:56:03 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: Oh, i see. 09:56:19 <NGC3982> And no, i don't need to make a screenshot of the full map when simply showing some orders. 09:57:51 <Eddi|zuHause> that's not what Ctrl+S does 09:58:23 <NGC3982> Oh 10:27:29 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 10:40:47 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 11:03:14 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:10:05 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:20:00 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 11:25:39 <NGC3982> The abnormity that is this channels chat activity really needs a jump. 11:25:40 <NGC3982> :E 11:25:59 <__ln__> *channel's 11:26:19 *** LordPixaII is now known as Pixa 11:35:54 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFDF54.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:47:10 *** FlyingFoX [~quassel@sanktwendel.weh.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:03:49 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:15:32 *** newbie [~kvirc@p5DDCFF41.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:17:47 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19:09 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 12:25:32 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:27:43 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:30:13 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:33:40 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 12:36:47 *** Kylie|2 [kvirc@CPE18593346e177-CM18593346e174.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:45:06 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:51:33 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:02:08 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:10:13 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:23:09 <Belugas> hello 13:29:20 <fjb> Moin Belugas 13:32:46 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 13:32:52 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-40-46.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:41:00 <peter1138> hi 13:49:03 <Belugas> hihi 14:05:25 <KopjeKoffie> hello 14:05:52 <KopjeKoffie> iŽm trying to compile openttd 1.2.2 14:06:45 <peter1138> Nice. 14:06:53 <KopjeKoffie> but i get the following error: http://pastebin.com/idZUd6Sj 14:08:02 <KopjeKoffie> i have folowd the instruction on: instruction http://wiki.openttd.org/Compiling_on_MinGW 14:08:35 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-40-46.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:10:56 <Terkhen> KopjeKoffie: configure says that libpng has been detected? 14:10:56 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:11:02 <Terkhen> meh 14:11:30 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:13:30 <Terkhen> KopjeKoffie: configure says that libpng has been detected? 14:14:47 <KopjeKoffie> checking lzo2... found 14:14:47 <KopjeKoffie> checking libpng... found 14:14:47 <KopjeKoffie> checking libfreetype... found 14:15:20 <KopjeKoffie> trunk fails also 14:15:24 <Terkhen> strange 14:16:09 <Terkhen> I tested the tutorial a few weeks ago 14:16:19 <planetmaker> KopjeKoffie, what architecture is that? 32bit 64bit? 14:16:42 <Terkhen> did you forget the /etc/fstab step? 14:17:00 <KopjeKoffie> windows 7 64 bit 14:17:34 <Terkhen> mingw is 32 bits only, the mingw64 version fails with OpenTTD IIRC 14:18:00 <KopjeKoffie> Select "Use pre-packaged repository catalogues". <-- i used the last version, is that the problem? 14:19:01 <Terkhen> maybe, but it should probably work too 14:20:56 <KopjeKoffie> (16:16:56) Terkhen: did you forget the /etc/fstab step? <-- all okey 14:21:48 <KopjeKoffie> i have windows 7 64 bit, but how can i see that iŽm using mingw32? 14:21:51 <Terkhen> I dont know then... try with pre packaged 14:25:35 <KopjeKoffie> maybe gcc 4.7 is the problem 14:25:41 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 14:25:50 <KopjeKoffie> i will try the pre packaged 14:27:17 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 14:28:09 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:40:02 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-82.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:40:08 <Rubidium> looks like the png headers might be messing with alignment 14:41:36 <Rubidium> what happens if you compile with libpng disabled? Is the error then still there? 14:42:14 <KopjeKoffie> how do i disable it? 14:44:53 <NGC3982> I'm so fantastically bored with riding trains there days. 14:45:33 <NGC3982> The standard trip I take every weekend really sucks the life out of me. 14:46:56 <NGC3982> Maybe it's time to stop playing OpenTTD, and maybe ill appreciate it more :-D 14:47:25 <Bad_Brett> Why don't you play OpenTTD on the train? 14:47:26 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 14:48:19 <NGC3982> I don't have my laptop operational. 14:48:42 <NGC3982> Oh well, I do, actually. 14:48:50 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fedae.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:48:56 <Bad_Brett> you see? problem solved :) 14:49:24 <NGC3982> But this is a small commuter. No tables and stuff. 14:50:03 <NGC3982> And I'm in the lowlands in under ten minutes. 14:53:03 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-035-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 14:57:38 <Terkhen> KopjeKoffie: ./configure --disable-libpng IIRC, check the readme to be sure 15:13:20 <KopjeKoffie> mingw with pre build packages builds openttd fine 15:13:50 <KopjeKoffie> that is on gcc 4.6.2 15:16:08 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:16:22 <KopjeKoffie> building openttd with gcc 4.7.0 fails on screenshot.cpp, but is has lots of warnings 15:17:59 <Rubidium> those warnings might be compiler bugs 15:18:13 <Rubidium> because I build with gcc 4.7.1 and get none 15:25:29 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 15:25:40 <KopjeKoffie> oke thanks, now i can build my own openttd again :) 15:30:13 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 15:31:04 <Terkhen> :) 15:31:47 <Terkhen> I'll make more clear in the tutorial that you need to use prepackaged 15:33:25 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:41 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:07:17 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:10:46 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:10:47 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11:09 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:20:55 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 16:21:07 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-035-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 16:26:03 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 16:26:09 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 16:30:10 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:46:13 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:14 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:590e:f50a:cf59:678a] has joined #openttd 17:10:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:46:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:48:50 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has joined #openttd 17:48:53 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:49:41 <Alberth> evenink 17:49:51 <fjb> Moin Alberth 17:51:28 <Terkhen> hi Alberth 17:54:59 <andythenorth> bonjour 17:55:49 <fjb> Moin andythenorth 18:00:08 <Terkhen> hi andythenorth 18:00:16 <andythenorth> MP GS later? :P 18:00:18 * andythenorth is at work 18:01:25 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:09:15 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:14:08 *** KopjeKoffie1 [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:14:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:14:38 <Wolf01> evenink 18:15:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:16:21 <Alberth> hi wolf 18:18:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B397.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:18:32 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:19:24 <fjb> Moin Wolf01 18:26:08 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:27:14 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:32:28 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:34 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:50:32 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:50:57 *** APTX [APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:240:63ff:fefb:5994] has joined #openttd 18:52:09 *** APTX_ [APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:240:63ff:fefb:5994] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:59:05 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:01:03 *** BadBrett is now known as Bad_Brett 19:10:39 <andythenorth> ho ho ho 19:11:08 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.67.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12:38 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-109-204.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:21:24 *** kais58 [~kais58@host-92-22-168-112.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 19:30:02 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:51:45 *** kais58__ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:53:28 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:50 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-125-133.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:55:33 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:12 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 19:58:37 <Eddi|zuHause> "Ja is denn heut scho Weihnachten?" 20:05:40 <NGC3982> What happends to stations with >X station spread, if the parameter changes? 20:05:49 <NGC3982> To <X, that is. 20:06:11 <Terkhen> IIRC nothing 20:09:53 <newbie> can someone tell me how/where in the sourcecode the first game is started in a dedicated server 20:11:08 <Rubidium> somewhere in openttd.cpp I think 20:11:24 <Rubidium> I'd look where LoadIntroGame is called 20:11:29 <newbie> in need to know the exact somewhere ;) 20:11:49 <Rubidium> then I can't help you right now 20:12:34 <Yexo> newbie: why do you need that if you don't want to look yourself? 20:12:36 <Terkhen> why do you need to know the exact part of the code but can't be bothered to look for it if you already have the function name? 20:12:46 <newbie> i look myself 20:13:28 <newbie> i guessed this function is called if you start a normal client 20:13:36 <newbie> at least it made this impression... 20:13:46 *** newbie is now known as Der_Herr 20:14:31 <Eddi|zuHause> but the place where this is called may have additional clues what happens on dedicated servers 20:15:20 <Yexo> Der_Herr: openttd.cpp:1023 NetworkServerStart() 20:15:33 <Yexo> might be a good start 20:18:40 <Der_Herr> line 1023 is in the function Switch_To_Mode 20:19:38 <Alberth> wrong revision? 20:19:59 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-035-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 20:20:04 <Alberth> or different, at least :) 20:20:25 <Der_Herr> i used trunk from the repository, this is the latest? 20:21:15 <Yexo> Der_Herr: yes, that's correct, that's one of the first few functions called 20:21:30 <Yexo> main() sets _switch_mode, GameLoop() calls SwitchToMode() 20:22:19 <Yexo> line 1007 might be better though 20:24:41 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 20:25:07 <Der_Herr> SafeLoad loooks interesting 20:26:48 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 20:28:05 <Eddi|zuHause> lots of things look interesting. unless you tell us what you actually intend to do, we cannot help you finding the spot to do it 20:28:46 <Der_Herr> I try to create a patch to enable dedicated servers to load and populate heightmaps 20:29:31 <Yexo> in that case look around openttd.cpp:609 20:29:48 <Der_Herr> therefore i sucessfully implemented already a console command copying the newgame command with minor modifications 20:30:35 <Yexo> please keep that in two separate patches 20:30:44 <Yexo> a commandline option and a console option I mean 20:31:12 <Yexo> hmm, via -e -g you can load scenarios, never knew that :) 20:31:28 <Der_Herr> ;) 20:36:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 20:37:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fedae.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:38:08 <Der_Herr> ok just a question for the console option: if you use it in a singleplayer game it works fine, but if i try to use it via rcon on a multiplayerserver the server does not seem to react on it? do i need to attach additional properties to the command like in console_cmd.cpp 20:38:55 <Yexo> what's the exact rcon command you use? 20:39:24 <Der_Herr> rcon pw mycommand or rcon pw "mycommand filename" 20:39:40 <Yexo> looks fine 20:39:49 <Yexo> have you tried directly in the console of a server? 20:43:14 <Der_Herr> mh i take my question back until i fixed the current error ;) 20:44:32 <Terkhen> good night 20:44:54 <Der_Herr> gn8 20:55:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B397.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58:01 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 21:01:19 <Der_Herr> ok, fixed :) now other things are to do 21:02:04 <Der_Herr> for example find the reason why the client is disconnected while loading a new heightmap 21:02:28 <Yexo> doesn't that happen too when loading a normal new game? 21:04:34 <Der_Herr> no 21:04:50 <Der_Herr> newgame starts a newgame but the client stays connected or at leasts reconnects 21:16:48 <Der_Herr> for example i use StartNewGameWithoutGUI with the only change StartGeneratingLandscape(GLWM_HEIGHTMAP); 21:27:02 *** keoz_ [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 21:28:12 <planetmaker> clients stay connected if you use rcon load XXX 21:28:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C79D.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:50 <Der_Herr> that does not change anything to newgame and the abbreviation i made to load heightmaps 21:33:38 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:36:08 <Der_Herr> gn8 21:36:09 *** keoz_ [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz_] 21:36:22 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 21:36:26 *** Der_Herr [~kvirc@p5DDCFF41.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:37:58 *** KopjeKoffie1 [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:38:39 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:39:17 <MNIM> ja lekker 21:46:08 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:00:20 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:58 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07:02 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:07:05 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:07:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:08:52 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:16:38 *** Bruskork1 [~fuckyou@ti0151a340-dhcp0402.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 22:17:01 <Bruskork1> I have a quick question: Can me and a friend play OpenTTD together if he has a mac and I have a windows? 22:18:59 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 22:20:53 <Bruskork1> Okay, thank you! :) 22:23:05 *** Bruskork1 [~fuckyou@ti0151a340-dhcp0402.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.35 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 22:26:27 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:29:09 <Bad_Brett> Hey Eddi! does the patch seem to be working for you? 22:29:53 <Eddi|zuHause> do you have a test grf? 22:31:23 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:31:30 <Bad_Brett> yes... it's quite dirty and only works in one direction... but maybe i'll should replace the vehicle with colored sprites for test purposes 22:32:29 <Bad_Brett> i'll fix it 22:32:53 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.vc] has joined #openttd 22:37:15 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:46:34 *** fjb is now known as Guest6871 22:46:35 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFDF54.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:46:52 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47:38 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 22:49:43 <Bad_Brett> woah... this is odd 22:49:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C79D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:51:47 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:51:48 *** Guest6871 [~frank@p5DDFDF54.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:55 <Bad_Brett> the sprite in the train list changes... seemingly randomly... but on the map it remains the same... and yet i've only added default graphics 22:54:42 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFDF54.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:00:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i might take a look tomorrow if you send me the GRF 23:01:28 <Bad_Brett> thanks... i'll post it on the forums 23:04:36 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-035-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:06:15 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-82.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:52:12 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.96.127.193] has joined #openttd 23:56:43 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:27 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd