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00:00:11 *** EmperorPixaIV [~pixa@85.210.78.1] has joined #openttd 00:01:04 <TrueBrain> such is life .. PHP .. ObjC ... Java ... in a year I beg you to let me write C :D 00:01:15 <fjb> But now I have to go to bed. My girl friend will be sad if I oversleep. 00:01:25 <TrueBrain> sleep well, and enjoy :D 00:01:38 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-105-47.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:01:51 <fjb> C is ok for some things. But not that nice either. 00:02:07 <fjb> Thank you. Good night. :) 00:02:10 <TrueBrain> BLASTEMY! (how do you write that?) 00:02:27 <TrueBrain> BLASPHEMY!! 00:02:29 <TrueBrain> :D 00:02:36 <fjb> Don't know. To tired to write. :) 00:02:49 * fjb waves good bye. 00:03:58 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.71.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:05:23 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@85.210.75.105] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:06:32 <TrueBrain> reading bash.org is always a good way of spending time 00:11:27 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE4ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:23:44 <BadBrett> about the callback "construction_probability" for industries... can anyone estimate a good "default" value for this one? 10? 50? 200? 00:31:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i give up... 00:35:33 <Eddi|zuHause> "Apple copied the SBB's station clock. SBB sending out lawyers." 00:39:51 <BadBrett> Apple copies everything... 00:40:18 <BadBrett> what version did you play? original or deluxe? 00:40:20 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, even samsung product designs... err... wait 00:40:48 <Eddi|zuHause> BadBrett: it doesn't really say in the program, but the manual is for deluxe 00:42:47 <BadBrett> deluxe contains south america and africa 00:43:00 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, then it's that 00:43:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i only played europe, though 00:45:03 <BadBrett> ...and that's the easiest map :) 00:46:27 <Eddi|zuHause> it's really strange, i make good profit for a while, and then there's almost nothing coming in anymore 00:49:25 <BadBrett> yeah... it was a few years since i played it so i don't remember everything except that the game is quite a challenge even for experienced players 01:05:31 <Eddi|zuHause> oh great. they now threw me out right after the first finance report :p 01:14:31 <BadBrett> haha 01:14:42 <BadBrett> that happens quite often if you spend too much money on your first track 01:20:12 <BadBrett> oh the humiliation when you have to watch yourself pass one of your stations on a handcar :p 01:33:04 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 01:50:39 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE4ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:55:19 <BadBrett> oh no... investors are outraged 01:55:25 <BadBrett> oh well, i guess i deserved it :p 02:09:13 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE4ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:12:30 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc8-pres13-2-0-cust118.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 02:16:28 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.87.60] has joined #openttd 02:17:11 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 02:31:54 <BadBrett> Alright... "investors are ecstatic"... that's more like it 02:32:23 <BadBrett> by the way, i believe that the income doubles during the first fiscal year 02:37:46 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:40:01 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 02:41:17 <Eddi|zuHause> according to my flying over the manual, there is a bonus during the first year after building a station 02:41:47 <BadBrett> yeah that makes sense 02:42:33 <Eddi|zuHause> also there's a bonus for "named trains" (i.e. when you set a speed record) 02:42:55 <BadBrett> i didn't know that actualyl 02:43:15 <BadBrett> do you have the real manual? 02:43:18 <BadBrett> those were the days 02:43:26 <BadBrett> when you got a book 02:43:31 <BadBrett> instead of a pdf 02:43:34 <BadBrett> :p 02:43:38 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it was a pdf 02:43:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i just downloaded it earlier 02:44:04 <BadBrett> the physical manual is 180 pages... 02:44:10 <Eddi|zuHause> (allegedly legal) 02:44:30 <Eddi|zuHause> the pdf had something around 140 02:44:48 <BadBrett> there's a lot of railroad history in it, i sometimes read it in the bathroom as inspiration to my openttd scenario 02:45:26 <BadBrett> my railroad is going pretty well now, time for expansion 02:46:58 <Eddi|zuHause> apparently the strategy of "connect 5 cities, then declare bankrupcy" doesn't quite work as well as it should 02:51:29 <BadBrett> haha 02:52:08 <BadBrett> begin with two big cities... build hotels and post offices on the stations and run 8-10 trains between them... that should do the trick 02:52:53 <Eddi|zuHause> well, bankrupcy halves your loan, but you cannot build anything until you repaid the rest 03:00:22 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-171-30.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 03:04:32 <BadBrett> i don't think i've ever done that 03:06:17 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-5-130.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:54 *** pugi_ 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09:15:16 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/9kEXO.png 09:15:21 <NGC3982> Yes. Yes, indeed. 09:15:32 <NGC3982> Speaking of soylent green. What happend to andythenorth? 09:16:08 <Alberth> he left for the pub yesterday evening didn't he? 09:27:50 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 09:34:10 <peter1138> http://i.imgur.com/o44nv.jpg 09:34:54 <TrueBrain> hehe, that is just nasty 09:38:03 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 09:38:23 *** fjb [~frank@p5481C2DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:39:39 <fjb> Moin. 09:40:02 *** TinoDidriksen [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has quit [Quit: http://tinodidriksen.com/] 09:41:12 *** TinoDidriksen [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has joined #openttd 09:42:01 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-083-046.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 09:47:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r24535 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs): -Doc: Two additions, lots of small spelling fixes, and some Doxygen improvements. 09:47:34 <NGC3982> :D 09:47:44 <Alberth> the first CIA :) 09:48:39 * NGC3982 combines his day with fear and loathing + openttd. 09:55:05 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.87.60] has joined #openttd 10:06:37 *** Dr_Tan [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:21:27 *** fjb [~frank@p5481C2DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:50 *** Nat_aS [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 10:31:29 *** MonoLiza [~oxl@stgt-5f70bf80.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:51:40 <Alberth> I hate it that compilers decide to rebuild everything for just a few doc changes :( 10:56:38 <peter1138> heh 10:56:44 <peter1138> it doesn't "decide" 10:56:46 <peter1138> it gets told :p 11:06:08 <__ln__> ßat's right 11:06:33 <planetmaker> hehe, I like that letter, __ln__ :-) 11:08:37 <__ln__> it was even used in middle and old english 11:08:56 <planetmaker> it's used in icelandic 11:09:26 <__ln__> yeah, ßey were obviously a bit smarter than ße englishmen 11:11:11 <__ln__> oops, *ßan 11:14:03 <Eddi|zuHause> the germans abolished that way earlier 11:14:31 <Eddi|zuHause> not only the written letter, but also the sound 11:16:46 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, and an intermediate form in written english between "ß" and "th" was actually "y" (see the word "ye" on old-ish sounding pubs and stuff) 11:17:48 <TrueBrain> http://weknowmemes.com/2012/09/nobody-cleans-a-house-faster-than-a-man/ 11:18:37 <__ln__> "ye" makes a little more sense with ßat explanation 11:23:49 <Eddi|zuHause> RRT is fun and annoying at the same time... 11:25:06 <peter1138> heh 11:25:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd like the option "stable economy" and "no bridge washouts", please. 11:36:55 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:44:46 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 11:49:22 *** telanus1 [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:02:48 *** n0kS [~n0kS@Politeia.in] has joined #openttd 12:09:42 *** n0kS is now known as Phr33d0m 12:39:18 *** cyph3r 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Wuth?! 13:41:25 <Belugas> hello 13:47:25 *** Guest7806 is now known as planetmaker 13:47:42 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:43 *** almien [~user@87-194-91-105.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:48:49 <almien> what grf lets you zoom in and see full detail not blur? 13:50:35 <Yexo> any grf that provides zoomed-in graphics, see http://wiki.openttd.org/Playing_with_32bpp_graphics for an up-to-date list 13:50:47 <Yexo> your best option currently is to use the zBase baseset 14:01:08 <almien> thanks, that works. just installed zbase 14:02:54 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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I thought you'd just buy a new one :p 16:24:56 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:07 *** Warod [warod@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:27:59 *** Defaultti [defaultti@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:56 *** almien [~user@87-194-91-105.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:35:10 *** Warod [warod@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 16:35:36 *** Defaultti [defaultti@kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 16:41:20 <TrueBrain> nah; I am awesome 17:02:32 *** fjb [~frank@p5481C958.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:54 <fjb> Moin. 17:03:13 <Alberth> hi 17:20:20 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:24:44 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:28:46 *** KnogleAFK [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 17:28:46 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:30:35 *** MrDetermination [~MrDetermi@173-164-23-44-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 17:42:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:42:54 <Wolf01> hello o/ 17:45:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24536 /trunk/src/lang/ (ukrainian.txt unfinished/tamil.txt): 17:45:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tamil - 7 changes by aswn 17:45:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: ukrainian - 80 changes by edd_k 17:50:35 <fjb> Moin Wolf01. 17:51:53 <Alberth> p/ 17:52:26 <Alberth> :p 17:53:17 *** DaZ [~derp@77-255-57-15.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:54:43 *** DaZ [~derp@77-253-91-28.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #openttd 17:55:54 <NGC3982> Evening. 17:56:34 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:5039:d2ea:8bb1:afa9] has joined #openttd 17:56:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:56:57 *** Defaultti [defaultti@kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 17:57:43 *** Defaultti [defaultti@kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 18:01:08 <NGC3982> This has truly been a fruitful day. 18:01:27 <Terkhen> I ate some fruit today too 18:03:04 <Terkhen> I'm sorry, I always find that expression funny :P 18:03:12 <NGC3982> Harr. ;) 18:07:37 *** fjb [~frank@p5481C958.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:12:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:21:52 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:33:20 *** Devroush2 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:38:10 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:42 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-98-217.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:45:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1987B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:31 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@79-68-111-252.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:49:18 *** BenTrein [~bentrein@82-168-140-232.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:50:07 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:50:59 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [] 18:51:42 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:52:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:52:29 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 18:53:32 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:41 *** Devroush2 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:10 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:47 <andythenorth> bonsoir 19:02:40 <planetmaker> salut andythenorth 19:03:02 <Alberth> efenink 19:05:42 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:08:04 <Terkhen> hi andythenorth 19:15:26 <FLHerne> andythenorth: Hoyo 19:15:27 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:27 *** Phr33d0m [~n0kS@Politeia.in] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:40 *** Phr33d0m [~n0kS@Politeia.in] has joined #openttd 19:19:27 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.87.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:31:30 *** Phr33d0m [~n0kS@Politeia.in] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:32:48 *** Phr33d0m [~n0kS@2001:470:d:b0e:bad:defa:ce:30] has joined #openttd 19:33:02 <TrueBrain> @op 19:33:05 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 19:34:07 *** TrueBrain changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.2.2 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | #openttd.dev for dev-talk | #openttd.notice for commit notices 19:34:11 <TrueBrain> @deop 19:34:14 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 19:47:56 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:49:41 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 19:53:07 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 19:58:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: zuu * r24537 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): -Feature: Scripts can be suspended even if the game is still progressing, thus break-on-log now works also for Game Scripts. 20:09:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 20:17:58 *** BenTrein [~bentrein@82-168-140-232.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:21:57 *** mkv` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:27:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r24538 /trunk/src/script/script_instance.cpp: -Fix-ish: remove compiler warning about initialization order 20:28:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r24539 /trunk/src/ship_cmd.cpp: -Codechange [FS#5260]: make code simpler by using IsValidTile instead of manually checking the bounds (juanjo) 20:29:37 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r24540 /trunk/src/ (ground_vehicle.hpp saveload/afterload.cpp tile_type.h): -Codechange: Remove the not-so-useful HALF_TILE_SIZE constant. 20:31:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r24541 /trunk/src/group.h: -Cleanup [FS#5260]: remove unused function GetGroupArraySize (juanjo) 20:32:01 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 20:34:15 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-165-87-251.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:38:45 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39:39 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 20:44:33 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:49:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: zuu * r24542 /trunk/src/script/api/ (4 files in 3 dirs): -Feature: Allow AI/GS script developers to break the execution of their scripts using ScriptController::Break 21:00:12 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 21:00:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: zuu * r24543 /trunk/src/script/api/script_controller.cpp: -Fix-ish (r24542): Removed unnecessary preprocessor directive 21:10:02 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-165-87-251.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19:29 <Terkhen> good night 21:19:37 <Phr33d0m> bai 21:19:40 <Yexo> night Terkhen 21:20:16 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-21-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:23:16 *** MrDetermination [~MrDetermi@173-164-23-44-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #openttd 21:31:41 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 21:32:54 <Supercheese> salvete omnes 21:39:49 *** DaZ [~derp@77-253-91-28.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:41:10 <Supercheese> fuitne quod dixi? :P 21:41:15 *** DaZ [~derp@87.205.148.83] has joined #openttd 21:44:11 <Zuu> So now I can go back to hunting CluelessPlus bugs :-) 21:45:04 <Supercheese> New patch review channel eh? 21:45:32 <Supercheese> is that channel also for discussion of bug reports and their solutions? 21:46:04 <Zuu> If the solution involves changes to OpenTTD code, I would suspect so yes. 21:46:30 <Supercheese> righto, there's some discussion of FS#5297 that needs to happen methinks 21:46:47 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 21:46:55 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:47:03 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:47:26 <Supercheese> salve, amice 21:47:33 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 21:47:39 <Supercheese> or not :P 21:48:44 <Zuu> Its not forbidden to discuss patches and bugs in this channel. The purpose of the new channel is however to allow the community to follow the patch review discussions more openly. 21:49:22 <Supercheese> Makes sense; I'm going to make my first post on the bug tracker, though, to think things through first 22:00:31 <Supercheese> Ah crud, it seems Terkhen discovered a bug in my grf 22:00:52 <Supercheese> rounding error methinks 22:02:42 <Eddi|zuHause> hmidunno, RRT2 doesn't look nearly as fun as RRT 22:02:47 <Supercheese> yep, rounding errors. blarg 22:04:18 <Supercheese> Apparently (-3*15)/2 does not equal -(3*15)/2? 22:04:33 <Supercheese> integer floor different for negative and positive numbers? 22:04:54 <planetmaker> what's "different" in your idea? 22:04:54 <Eddi|zuHause> quite possible 22:05:03 <Supercheese> still testing, hang on 22:05:04 <planetmaker> floor means to round down, iirc 22:05:09 <Eddi|zuHause> there's "round towards -inf" and "round towards 0" 22:05:10 <Supercheese> need to be sure my logic isn't flawed 22:05:18 <planetmaker> i.e. floor(2.23) = 2; floor(-2.23) = -3 22:05:37 <Supercheese> whoah 22:05:43 <Supercheese> yeah, I think that's the problem 22:05:43 <Eddi|zuHause> "simple" computer logics usually do the former, while intuition is more consistent with the latter 22:06:23 <Supercheese> I wanted the absolute values of (15/2) and -(15/2) to be equal 22:06:33 <Supercheese> that doesn't happen by default eh? 22:06:39 <Eddi|zuHause> no 22:06:42 <Supercheese> hmm 22:07:08 <Supercheese> easy fix is to make sure everything is divisible by 2 22:07:31 <Eddi|zuHause> that, or make sure everything is positive 22:07:45 <Supercheese> that too 22:08:01 <Supercheese> yeah, migrate the negative sign out of the parentheses 22:08:06 <Supercheese> that would probably do it 22:08:17 * Supercheese should have done that at the beginning 22:09:42 <Supercheese> live and learn 22:11:19 <Supercheese> Yep, that appears to have fixed things 22:15:41 <Supercheese> So, http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5297 -- Terkhen has suggested 4 possible implementations for a fix. Both our opinions are posted there; other thoughts? 22:17:11 <Supercheese> Oh right, should upload the .grf bugfix 22:18:27 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:19:51 <Wolf01> 'night 22:19:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:22:22 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc8-pres13-2-0-cust118.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:29:22 <Supercheese> Ah crap 22:29:36 <Supercheese> Go to edit second post in thread with sources --> "You can no longer edit or delete that post." 22:29:42 <Supercheese> -_- 22:30:45 <Zuu> Yes there was a change to that announced in the news section some time ago. 22:30:56 <Zuu> Personally I welcome that change. 22:31:28 <Supercheese> Rather kills posting in one's own thread to say "reserved for future use" though 22:31:31 <Eddi|zuHause> certain people deleting everything they said in the past 5 years? 22:31:33 <Supercheese> As once cannot use it in the future 22:31:33 <Zuu> The first post of threads can still be edited, but this makes posts more permanent and enforce a chronological discussion. 22:32:22 <Supercheese> 3 attachments per post + unable to edit second/third posts in threads = more awkward for threadowners 22:32:29 <Supercheese> but not the biggest issue in the world, admittedly 22:32:31 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: "reserved for future use" is silly anyway. just make a new post with the attachment, and link to it in the first post, if you need more than 3 attachments 22:32:43 <Supercheese> yep, that is what I am doing right now 22:33:18 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33:39 <Supercheese> I'd argue "reserved for future use" is not silly, but that ship has already set sail 22:34:28 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:34:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd argue that the 3-attachments-limit is silly, frequently causing workarounds like this 22:34:55 <Zuu> What you could have instead is a higher attachment limit for the first post. But that would probably need patching phpBB. 22:35:17 <Supercheese> valid points 22:40:54 <planetmaker> Supercheese, I expect the latest version anyway at the end ;-) 22:41:23 <planetmaker> and you could *link* that in the first posting. That'll then even enable people to get the old, should they need it for a savegame 22:41:46 <Supercheese> I figure BaNaNaS takes care of the "needing for a savegame" issue, no? 22:41:53 <planetmaker> yes, it does 22:42:12 <planetmaker> by uploading there you allow to provide the needed version ;-) 22:48:01 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:51:04 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:00:07 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:00:16 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:00:18 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip2.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 23:02:06 <planetmaker> Supercheese, wrt sources and GPL: it's good to keep available sources for all versions you ever released 23:03:21 <planetmaker> thus posting them in the postings like you do is good :-) Removing the old ones could in principle lead to the question of "where do I get the source for this ancient version" - which you can answer easily, if you keep them as-is now 23:03:59 <planetmaker> but bed time. Good night 23:06:51 <Supercheese> vale, dormiture 23:09:57 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:30 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:27:22 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.87.60] has joined #openttd 23:30:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1987B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:44:37 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:56:49 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd