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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 11:56:57 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 12:14:29 <Eddi|zuHause> so... what does one do when RRT tells "station limit reached"? 12:14:44 <Eddi|zuHause> stupid old games... :p 12:17:17 <__ln__> disassemble it and make an open source clone of it 12:17:48 <Ammler> locomotion 12:20:47 <Eddi|zuHause> locomotion has nothing to do with RRT 12:22:58 <Eddi|zuHause> but seriously... what does one do when one can't expand to new cities anymore? 12:23:37 <Eddi|zuHause> except give up/unify some old local routes, there's not much i can see 12:24:22 <Eddi|zuHause> that frees up maybe two or three stations 12:24:53 <peter1138> been a long time since i played rrt 12:25:41 <peter1138> are you talking about the original one that looked a lot like civ at the time? 12:31:22 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:31:40 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:34:28 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 12:35:00 <Eddi|zuHause> although it only looked like civ if you played civ in 16 colour mode, not 256 colour mode :) 12:36:35 *** dada78641 [~dada_@62.140.137.105] has joined #openttd 12:40:41 <peter1138> best civ imho 12:43:27 <Eddi|zuHause> it had plenty of bugs. and the patch that i got later was for the english version, which made things even worse 12:44:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i probably played civ2 the most, followed by civ4 12:47:26 <frosch123> yeah, in rrt and colonization you just give up if you hit the limits 12:48:41 *** BadBrett [BadBrett@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 12:49:20 <BadBrett> "Although the majority of all original houses occupy a single tile, it is possible to define a larger house of up to 2x2 tiles. For this, you should set the fourth 'size' parameter in the item-block." 12:49:53 <BadBrett> What exactly does this mean? Should I set it in the header? 12:50:42 *** dada78641 [~dada_@62.140.137.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:54 <frosch123> you put it as fourth parameter in the "item" thingie 12:52:47 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.163] has joined #openttd 12:53:38 <frosch123> item(FEAT_H..., item_my_name, random number, HOUSE_SIZE_xxx) 12:53:48 <DanMacK> Hey all 12:56:01 <BadBrett> that's what i thought... should i set random number to -1 then? 12:56:51 <DanMacK> Hey brett. How goes progress? 12:56:54 <frosch123> ah, yes, -1 13:00:11 <BadBrett> thanks! 13:00:37 <BadBrett> DanMack: I'm still writing the code, so no new graphics 13:01:09 *** michi_cc [~michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:02:39 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 13:02:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 13:04:50 <DanMacK> Cool 13:06:10 <BadBrett> a bit boring though, I enjoy doing the graphics more ;) 13:06:51 <DanMacK> Lol I know 13:08:24 <Stimrol> Is it possible to have dedicated server restart at f.ex 2050 and start from the same save or same scenario? 13:10:31 <Ammler> isn't that what restart does, instead newgame? 13:11:14 <frosch123> restart only works for random generated maps, not for scenarios 13:11:26 <Stimrol> Doesn't the game automaticly go newgame after restart_year or is it perhaps restartgame? 13:12:01 <Stimrol> frosch123, so the same goes for save? 13:13:42 <frosch123> restart_game_year generates a new map 13:13:55 <frosch123> same settings, but different map 13:15:51 <Stimrol> that is what I thought, I was hopeing that I could restart server automaticly with always same save or scenario 13:16:09 <frosch123> i don't think you can do that with on-board stuff 13:16:14 <frosch123> you need some external script or similar 13:16:32 <frosch123> something external which sends "restart" to the console 13:17:19 <frosch123> i.e. via admin port, or via plain console 13:19:02 <Stimrol> So if I knew pearl f.exe I could query the server with some script to see what year it was and send restart in 2050? 13:19:49 <frosch123> no idea what you currently use to run your server 13:20:35 <frosch123> but, if you know java and want something custom, you can use the admin port to control ottd remotely 13:20:39 <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan 13:21:47 <Stimrol> I am using autopilot, but out off luck with knowing programming 13:21:54 <Stimrol> thanks very much for the help 13:22:09 <frosch123> i don't know autopilot well enough, to help you there 13:22:17 <frosch123> it might also have various features 13:23:27 <Stimrol> I will see what I find out, the digging in to this problem is just starting :) 13:32:33 <Ammler> with autopilot, you could query the year and load the save 13:35:27 *** dada78641 [~dada_@62.140.137.106] has joined #openttd 13:40:15 <Stimrol> thanks Ammler, what do I need to know to do that, some pearl or..' 13:44:55 <Ammler> tcl 13:45:56 <Ammler> well, you should also be able to use the new interface together with autopilot 13:46:11 <Ammler> so you can also use your favorite language 13:46:44 <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/scripts/irc/ <-- some example scripts 13:47:56 <Stimrol> In the old days I knew some Pascal :) that doesn't count today, so the only way for me is hopeing I can maybe find something by trial and errors. But this is a interesting problem. 13:55:54 <Ammler> Stimrol: something like this: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1924/ 13:56:16 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57:31 <Stimrol> wow, thanks alot Ammler 13:57:31 *** JakeGrey [~chatzilla@host31-51-108-249.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57:48 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:57:58 *** JakeGrey [~chatzilla@host31-51-108-249.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:01:58 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/9pvOJ.png 14:02:05 <NGC3982> Can this be thought of as "realistic"? 14:02:43 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@eduroam-91.felk.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 14:02:45 <frosch123> no, there is no snow 14:07:15 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 14:13:25 <peter1138> Want realistic? Go outside. 14:13:38 <Markk> :) 14:18:22 *** dada78641 [~dada_@62.140.137.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:13 <BadBrett> 2x2 houses works great now. me so happy. 14:22:20 <BadBrett> *work 14:26:50 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28:55 <V453000> frosch123: seen my tickets? :) 14:29:19 <peter1138> For Justin Beiber? 14:30:06 <V453000> .. 14:30:18 <Markk> :D 14:32:22 <Stimrol> Ammler, I am trying this for test with irc command !test and I always get invalid ELF header 14:33:25 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@62-241-226-131.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:33:59 <Elukka> http://stardate.org/sites/default/files/images/gallery/titan_dione.jpg 14:34:01 <Elukka> space looks unrealistic 14:34:11 <Elukka> (a photo from cassini) 14:34:18 <Belugas> hello 14:35:51 <Elukka> did the r-word cause belugas to appear? :P 14:36:05 <Eddi|zuHause> you do realize that all colours in "space" photos are "wrong"? 14:36:15 <Elukka> no, not really 14:36:26 <Elukka> nebulae are often in false color, though not always 14:36:29 <Belugas> naaa... just my daily routine which is resuming back to normal (finally) :) 14:36:53 <Eddi|zuHause> not even curiosity can do proper colours 14:36:56 <Elukka> images of planets and moons and such are usually true color, or at least colorized to look as real as possible with the instrumentation they have 14:37:23 <Elukka> sure it can 14:37:24 *** A85 [~user@p8183-ipbfp3701osakakita.osaka.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 14:37:37 <Elukka> there's no special trick to getting true color images in space 14:37:41 <Elukka> you just mount a more or less normal camera on it 14:38:09 <Elukka> false color images are false color because they provide more useful information that way 14:40:35 <Elukka> http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/682400main_PIA14922_full_full.jpg 14:40:40 <Elukka> "A giant of a moon appears before a giant of a planet undergoing seasonal changes in this natural color view of Titan and Saturn from NASA's Cassini spacecraft. " 14:40:55 <Ammler> Stimrol: might simply need a newline at the end 14:41:05 <Elukka> i like how titan is so blurry it looks like a cheap 3D model 14:41:11 <Ammler> I didn't test the command :-) 14:45:37 <peter1138> "colorized to look as real as possible" == false colour, to me ;) 14:47:39 <Stimrol> Ammler, I will test this, thank you. 14:49:14 * peter1138 mumbles about non-plain text email 14:50:06 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:28 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 14:53:41 <frosch123> V453000: thanks for the bieber tickets 14:53:47 <frosch123> i added one to my todo list 14:53:53 <frosch123> have to find someone else for the second one 14:54:01 <Flygon> Elukka, that's not a cheap 3D model 14:54:03 <V453000> :) 14:54:20 <Flygon> It's clearly a moon from The Next Generation, or Voyager! 14:56:55 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57:39 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 14:58:07 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@524B53F1.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:30 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@524B53F1.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:58:31 <BadBrett> "HOUSE_FLAG_NOT_SLOPED 14:58:31 <BadBrett> Can only be built on flat terrain. Note that 2x2 buildings will always only be built on flat land, even if this bit isn't set." 14:58:38 <BadBrett> this doesn't seem to be the case 15:01:57 <frosch123> might be a subtile ottd/ttdp difference 15:02:49 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable105.141-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 15:02:56 <drac_boy> hi 15:04:36 <BadBrett> probably 15:06:45 *** dada78641 [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:16:06 <Stimrol> Ammler, I could do it as this "::ap::game::console "load mysave.sav\r" 15:16:19 <Stimrol> next step figure out how to run this periodicaly 15:21:47 *** dada__ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:24:04 *** dada78641 [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:27:22 *** JakeGrey_ [~chatzilla@host86-157-151-75.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:27:33 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:32:05 *** JakeGrey [~chatzilla@host31-51-108-249.range31-51.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:16 *** JakeGrey_ is now known as JakeGrey 15:34:16 *** tycoondemon2 [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 15:34:19 *** tycoondemon [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:37:34 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@eduroam-91.felk.cvut.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:39 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:38:01 *** BadBrett [BadBrett@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 15:46:12 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 15:48:00 <drac_boy> any of you have an amd pc? just wondering anyway 15:48:44 <Eddi|zuHause> why wouldn't one have an amd pc? 15:49:50 <drac_boy> I'm just asking :P 15:52:55 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 15:58:54 *** zear [~zear@pawlowia.rz.izeto.pl] has joined #openttd 15:58:57 <zear> hello 15:59:28 <zear> how come the helicopters become obsolete before the end of the game? 15:59:49 <zear> is this by design, or a bug? 16:00:05 <drac_boy> eddi...basically was just wondering about trying build another amd system anyway .. but we'll see I guess 16:00:13 <frosch123> zear: by design 16:00:33 <zear> frosch123, in openttd, or the original game? 16:00:44 <frosch123> original 16:00:48 <frosch123> in ottd you can load a newgrf 16:01:21 <frosch123> hmm, not sure about original, actually 16:01:23 <zear> isn't that just a graphics replacement? 16:01:28 <frosch123> nope 16:01:32 <frosch123> it's a gameplay plugin 16:01:33 <Yexo> newgrfs contain much more than just graphics 16:01:44 <zear> then i'm probably already using it 16:01:52 <zear> as i installed only the free modules 16:01:57 <zear> ie. no original game data files 16:02:09 <Yexo> opengfx is just a graphics replacement for the original graphics 16:02:31 <frosch123> zear: then you are likely using none :p 16:02:33 <Yexo> newgrfs are set in the newgrf config window, you can also download new ones via the online content system 16:02:50 <zear> frosch123, the game is still playable 16:02:55 <frosch123> yes 16:03:12 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:03:17 <frosch123> http://wiki.openttd.org/Newgrf#Version_1.1_and_later <- check that 16:03:28 <frosch123> there are 500 available, you cannot have them all activated 16:03:41 <frosch123> you have to choose, if you didn't you have defaults 16:03:46 <frosch123> which match the original very closely 16:04:08 <zear> frosch123, you are right, i don't have any of them enabled 16:04:09 <frosch123> (except for newer features) 16:05:25 <zear> just quickly filtered, but no "heli*" addons that compensate for the helicopters becoming obsolete 16:05:46 <frosch123> check aviators aircraft set 16:06:12 <frosch123> i do not remember any set providing only helicopters 16:06:12 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 16:06:39 <frosch123> mind that you can only activate these plugins for new games 16:06:44 <frosch123> you cannot add/remove stuff mid-game 16:07:07 <zear> i realize that 16:07:27 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.179.86] has joined #openttd 16:08:35 *** Er00 [~er00@91.229.174.242] has joined #openttd 16:08:44 <zear> i wonder what was the choice in original game for making the helicopters obsolete 16:09:12 <V453000> I bet the bigger problem is expiring vehicles = on? 16:09:23 <zear> isn't it a trend in sci-fi to feature flying cars 16:09:30 <zear> that would easily replace the old helicopter design 16:09:51 <zear> well, the expiring vehicles is not a biggie, since you can always replace them with newer models 16:10:16 <V453000> what if there arent newer models :) 16:10:20 <zear> but here the helicopters as a whole become obsolete and you can't replace newer ones 16:10:32 <V453000> after all your helicopters are doing exactly that apparently 16:10:35 <zear> V453000, so far this was only a problem with helicopters for me 16:10:45 <V453000> yes 16:10:46 <zear> and trains, but naturally there is maglev, etc. 16:10:48 <frosch123> V453000: good point, we should tell zear about that feature 16:10:50 <zear> so there is replacement 16:10:55 <V453000> so, having vehicles_never_expire on would make this problem gone 16:11:12 <zear> that could work, but i actually do like how the old models expire 16:11:13 <V453000> just as well as any similar or related problems 16:11:22 <V453000> cant help you then 16:11:32 <zear> i'd just like new futuristic designs for the helicopters instead of dumping them as a whole 16:11:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:11:44 <V453000> if you want something new, better get drawing :) 16:11:48 <zear> :D 16:12:09 <frosch123> zear: we have the policy to only add "new stuff" via add-ons 16:12:17 <zear> which makes sense 16:12:24 <frosch123> the default stuff is somewhat playable, but generally noone bothers 16:12:30 <zear> hehe 16:12:32 <frosch123> because everyone wants his own deal anyway :p 16:12:41 <zear> except new players, i guess 16:13:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.169.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:07 <V453000> original works well, but later you definitely want more 16:13:26 <frosch123> well, better start easy before letting them drown in add-ons :p 16:13:34 <zear> so, any tutorials for creating new graphic sets? 16:13:57 <frosch123> http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NMLTutorial 16:14:10 <frosch123> but maybe you want to first check whether there is already suitable content for you :p 16:14:18 <zear> already checked 16:14:20 <zear> doesn't seem to be any 16:14:23 <zear> unless i missed something 16:14:32 <frosch123> i guess it is hard to stuff yourself without ever having used any existing stuff 16:14:42 <V453000> cant say I know about any futuristic helicopters either 16:14:43 <frosch123> zear: aviators is the standard aircraft set 16:15:20 <frosch123> but yeah, i think it has only future-zeppelin instead of helicopters :p 16:15:42 <V453000> codename for kirov. 16:15:46 <zear> as long as it can land on heliports it will be fine 16:16:10 <V453000> see av8 and see for yourself already ...) 16:16:45 <frosch123> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Aviators_Aircraft_Set#Vehicles <- the qrque 4 looks also futureish 16:16:57 <frosch123> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Eurocopter_Orque_4 <- 2025 16:17:07 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:17:33 * drac_boy also uses the russiaplane grf a lot myself 16:17:49 <zear> frosch123, that set has tons of helicopters in 2045 16:18:02 <zear> unless they only expire after some time when you started a new game 16:18:46 <frosch123> if you have them when starting in year 3000, you will also have them when playing till 3000 16:18:47 *** roadt__ [~roadt@60.168.94.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:56 <zear> ah, great 16:19:13 <V453000> if stuff breaks use no expiring vehicles :) 16:19:46 <V453000> I actually have no clue how does nuts work with expiring vehicles, might be utterly broken 16:20:20 <drac_boy> heh .. V453000 you're NUTS! :p 16:20:22 <drac_boy> ;) 16:21:04 <V453000> ok as I didnt configure it it looks like they just Dont expire :D 16:21:18 <V453000> nice enough 16:21:52 <andythenorth> also...bonjour 16:22:06 <V453000> also, I am completely sane, which is proved by this http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/ProZone:Archive 16:22:09 <V453000> hi andy :) 16:22:24 <V453000> see game 31 :) 16:23:45 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:26:41 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 16:26:42 <frosch123> @base 8 10 31 16:26:42 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 25 16:26:44 <frosch123> @base 7 10 31 16:26:45 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 22 16:26:55 <frosch123> V453000: even when using base 7 you are off 16:27:30 <V453000> ? 16:27:48 <V453000> k 21 16:27:54 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/ProZone:Archive_-_Games_21_-_30 16:31:05 *** JakeGrey [~chatzilla@host86-157-151-75.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:38 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-211.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:33:16 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 16:33:48 <Ammler> [16:16] <Stimrol> next step figure out how to run this periodicaly <-- add it as callback 16:35:20 <Ammler> or execute it via crontab signal 16:43:14 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable105.141-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 16:43:30 <andythenorth> bananas needs a download stats API 16:43:33 <andythenorth> for my amusement 16:44:55 <Markk> Bananas has gone monkey 16:44:58 <frosch123> as rss feed? or as desktop applet? 16:45:52 <supermop> mobile app 16:46:04 <supermop> i want to check firs downloads on the go 16:46:15 <andythenorth> frosch123: name / value pairs? 16:46:20 <andythenorth> JSON? 16:46:21 <andythenorth> :P 16:48:33 <V453000> lol 16:53:05 <peter1138> Who's Jason? 16:53:23 <andythenorth> friend of Kylie 16:53:27 <andythenorth> also Argonauts 16:53:36 <andythenorth> multiplayer NoCarGoal game later? 16:53:50 <frosch123> no reasons against it 16:54:30 <andythenorth> need to get gold :P 16:54:48 <andythenorth> planetmaker Hirundo Yexo Zuu Terkhen V453000 et al? ^^ 16:54:59 <andythenorth> also others 16:55:27 <V453000> dont expect me tonight :( 16:55:29 <Yexo> maybe later, not sure yet if I have time 16:56:02 <andythenorth> needs 3, or an easier goal :) 16:56:19 <V453000> depends on the setup andy, if you make like 5 farms on teh whole map and give yourself a 30k goal of food for just 7 years ... 16:56:27 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:56:37 <V453000> dont think that is possible :p 16:57:07 <andythenorth> Fish! 16:57:16 <andythenorth> did I include Fish in FIRS basic? :P 16:57:43 <andythenorth> maybe I should make an economy where all primaries are at sea 16:57:55 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.178] has joined #openttd 16:57:58 <V453000> x_x 16:58:05 <DanMacK> Hey all 16:58:17 <FLHerne> andythenorth: That sounds a bit inconvenient :P 16:58:18 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 16:58:41 <andythenorth> FLHerne: have you heard of these things that float on water? 16:58:46 <andythenorth> I think they're called...boats 16:58:54 <V453000> NOOO 16:59:11 <FLHerne> Question: Does your economy thing allow more than 32 cargoes overall, if each economy has <32? 16:59:13 <V453000> those dont exist 16:59:25 <frosch123> V453000: you can see them in the last game e played 16:59:26 <planetmaker> I'm afraid I've to decline tonight, andythenorth :-( 16:59:27 <DanMacK> !logs 16:59:29 <FLHerne> andythenorth: I have. I use quite a few. They're a bit slow though :-/ 16:59:31 <frosch123> i had a ship route over half of the map 16:59:34 <frosch123> even including canals 16:59:40 <planetmaker> good evening though :-) 16:59:49 <V453000> frosch123: difference between you can see them and they exist 16:59:50 <V453000> :P 16:59:59 <V453000> hi pm :) 17:09:23 <andythenorth> FLHerne: yes, more than 32 cargos 17:09:29 * andythenorth ponders 17:10:06 <V453000> not sure if I want to hear the outcome :D 17:10:28 <andythenorth> thinking about NoCarGoal 17:10:52 <andythenorth> is the slow speed of ships a factor against them for a 7 year challenge? 17:11:34 <V453000> in a matter of a few ships undelivered, yes 17:11:42 <V453000> other than that not much 17:12:01 <V453000> assuming you use the broken station ratings 17:12:47 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:13:13 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:27 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 17:13:40 <andythenorth> they're slow 17:13:47 <andythenorth> I tried one GS where they were just to slow 17:13:59 <andythenorth> otoh, you don't have too build infrastructure. Building train routes takes time 17:14:03 <andythenorth> and they don't jam 17:14:18 <andythenorth> one train jam can ruin a chance of a medal 17:16:06 <V453000> not getting jam for 7 years is easy :P 17:19:02 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@88.149.50.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:19:53 <frosch123> andythenorth: they worked fine the last time 17:20:44 <frosch123> only trains is boring 17:20:46 <andythenorth> you set all base costs low in last game, right? 17:21:06 <frosch123> yes 17:21:12 <frosch123> except terrafomring 17:21:12 <andythenorth> money definitely wasn't a problem 17:21:30 <andythenorth> a few games I had to sell all the ships because we could only get money fast enough with trains 17:22:41 <frosch123> well, you have to use ships for ship-routes 17:22:44 <frosch123> not just for the ships :p 17:22:54 <V453000> :D 17:23:08 <andythenorth> shall we test if NoCarGoal latest version is bug free then? :) 17:23:27 <andythenorth> also try FISH 2 17:23:28 <frosch123> ideally we get a third person for the third cargo 17:23:40 <andythenorth> Rubidium ! 17:27:52 <frosch123> we can also cheat and ensure the third cargo is pax :p 17:34:15 <andythenorth> or all in the same chain :P 17:34:25 <andythenorth> coal, iron ore, metal :P 17:34:54 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 17:38:59 <supermop> wish i could play with you guys 17:39:21 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@88.149.50.18] has joined #openttd 17:42:48 <andythenorth> what blocks you? 17:42:56 <frosch123> likely work :p 17:43:21 <frosch123> it's at most 15:00 for him when it is 21:00 for me 17:43:36 <frosch123> or 20:00 for you 17:48:30 <Stimrol> Ammler, I had thought of it but I can't find out how to talk to autopilot. I found out how to send command to the admin port but the .tcl script dont work there 17:52:40 <Ammler> if you don't know how to handle signals or if it doesn't support it, do it like we do the restart on ps (tcl8.4) 17:53:28 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:14 <Ammler> touch a file and check via crontab for that file and execute a restart 17:56:08 <Ammler> tcl is capable to run extern scripts, just in case btw. 17:56:23 <Ammler> exec ls 17:57:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:57:17 <Ammler> Stimrol: ^ 17:59:00 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-213-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:59:56 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-042-094.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 18:00:10 <Stimrol> Ammler, thanks I will see what I can do. 18:03:37 <andythenorth> biab 18:03:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:04:57 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:06:18 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08fe01.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:08:35 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:11:30 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-213-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:11:42 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-211.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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I re-install a laboratory computer 18:23:07 <planetmaker> it needs to be able to use at least some obscure hardware 18:23:17 <frosch123> ah, i thought you were tired of osx bugs and now wanted to compare with win8 bugs :p 18:23:23 <planetmaker> :-P 18:24:08 <planetmaker> I'm certainly biased, but I find installing OpenTTD and even everything needed to compile it easy... 18:24:29 <planetmaker> ... espeically on linux :-) 18:25:50 <planetmaker> anyway... sports. I hope the computer is finished updating when I return tomorrow ;-) 18:25:53 <planetmaker> see you later 18:30:19 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 18:33:47 *** Rait [~rait@41.28.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 18:34:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:34:17 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 18:34:59 *** mrdaft [~mrdaft@216.11.96.2] has joined #openttd 18:35:18 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 18:45:18 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24719 /trunk/src/lang (luxembourgish.txt unfinished/tamil.txt) (2012-11-13 18:45:11 UTC) 18:45:19 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:20 <DorpsGek> luxembourgish - 122 changes by Phreeze 18:45:21 <DorpsGek> tamil - 12 changes by aswn 18:47:27 * andythenorth has the idea to do a town set :( 18:47:54 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-213-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:47:56 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Quit: *Throws a nuclear warhead in the room and flees*] 18:56:50 *** mrdaft [~mrdaft@216.11.96.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:05:17 <NGC3982> Morning. 19:05:27 <NGC3982> andythenorth: Why the :(? 19:07:11 <FLHerne> andythenorth: More houses would be nice. FISH & FIRS releases would be even nicer in the short term, though :P 19:11:52 <andythenorth> frosch123: so game or no game? :) 19:15:13 <Rubidium> still running the ancient version? 19:15:33 <frosch123> andythenorth: pax, goods, petrol? 19:16:03 <andythenorth> works for me 19:16:06 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-213-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16:12 <andythenorth> frosch123: we need a Rubidium 19:16:37 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16:38 <Rubidium> oh come on... I'm virtually everywhere 19:16:44 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 19:18:18 <andythenorth> hmm 19:18:21 <andythenorth> electricity 19:18:32 * andythenorth favours extending the map array to do it :P 19:18:35 <andythenorth> but nvm 19:18:51 <andythenorth> frosch123: new FISH? o_O 19:19:33 <frosch123> fish fish r941m 19:19:48 <Rubidium> andythenorth: volt is just a subtype of vehicle 19:19:49 <frosch123> or fish-2-alpha4 19:19:57 <frosch123> i don't like pax, newgame 19:20:10 <andythenorth> frosch123: fish-2-alpha-4 iirc 19:20:11 <frosch123> grain gold clay? 19:20:14 <Rubidium> r24719 19:20:16 <andythenorth> gold is broken 19:20:23 <andythenorth> gold should not be present :P 19:20:32 <andythenorth> I think I need to disable a default cargo :P 19:20:49 <frosch123> gold or newgame? 19:20:51 <andythenorth> newgame 19:20:57 <andythenorth> no industries for gold 19:20:59 <andythenorth> it's a bug :P 19:21:29 <frosch123> oil wood engsup ? 19:23:04 <andythenorth> sounds fine 19:23:23 <andythenorth> good luck with 30k of engsup :) 19:23:29 <andythenorth> but oil and wood make engsup 19:23:37 <andythenorth> via intermediaries :) 19:23:44 <andythenorth> and engsup makes more oil and wood 19:27:01 <frosch123> r24719 #openttdcoop.nightly 19:30:18 <frosch123> game is online 19:30:23 <Rubidium> no such firs replacement set version 0 19:30:49 <andythenorth> 1 min 19:30:59 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/0.8.0-test-1/ 19:32:32 <Rubidium> GOLD?!? ;) 19:32:55 <Rubidium> oh... medals 19:38:57 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.183] has joined #openttd 19:39:00 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:39:21 <DanMacK> Hey all 19:48:58 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-53-192.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:50:39 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:04 *** lobster is now known as zon 19:56:14 *** zon is now known as lobster 19:57:08 *** DataJuggler [~kvirc@77-57-182-215.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 19:57:38 <DataJuggler> can i kick a fake team player? 19:58:58 <DataJuggler> theres a player, Jackob (nl) who joined my company an then sold everything... and wastet all money.... so, is it possible for me to kick him out of my company? 19:59:06 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:2c7b:d3e1:506e:95a0] has joined #openttd 19:59:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 20:00:21 <V453000> that would mean he can do just the same DataJuggler 20:00:45 <Ammler> DataJuggler: you set a pw 20:00:47 <DataJuggler> now I added a password to my company.... 20:00:57 <DataJuggler> but he's already in... 20:01:06 <Ammler> ask an admin to ban him 20:01:28 <DataJuggler> how can i see who's admin on that server? 20:01:49 <Ammler> some servers use !admin to page 20:01:57 <andythenorth> lol @ griefer 20:02:00 <andythenorth> it's so futile :P 20:02:01 <Ammler> else no clue :-) 20:02:51 <DataJuggler> hmmm !admin dosn't work :( 20:03:00 <Yexo> DataJuggler: ask in the chat of the server 20:03:05 <Yexo> if that doesn't help: pick another server 20:03:55 <DataJuggler> thanks for your answers... hope to figure it out somehow... :S 20:04:52 *** kero [~keikoz@1.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 20:08:45 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:18:05 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-108-17-113-33.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:35:54 *** JakeGrey [~chatzilla@host86-159-206-5.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:39:30 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable105.141-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:39:33 <drac_boy> hi 20:45:52 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:49:36 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 20:53:55 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-32-193.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 21:09:59 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-213-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:16:28 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 21:20:13 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 21:23:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:27:04 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-213-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:35:07 *** Ttech2 [ttech@has.mostlyincorrect.info] has quit [Quit: Yo no se perro caliente!] 21:37:01 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 21:40:56 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24720 trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp (2012-11-13 21:40:50 UTC) 21:40:57 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r24715): Comparison of different height units. 21:42:01 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24721 trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp (2012-11-13 21:41:54 UTC) 21:42:02 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r24715): Reallow building road stations. 21:46:18 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24722 trunk/src/console_cmds.cpp (2012-11-13 21:46:09 UTC) 21:46:19 <DorpsGek> -Add: Display unique ID and md5sum in console content info. 21:46:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24723 trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp (2012-11-13 21:46:14 UTC) 21:46:29 <DorpsGek> -Fix: AI debug GUI crashed when using disabled buttons via hotkeys. 21:46:32 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24724 /trunk/src (13 files in 3 dirs) (2012-11-13 21:46:19 UTC) 21:46:37 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Move drawing of editboxes to the widget drawing code. 21:46:46 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24725 trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp (2012-11-13 21:46:22 UTC) 21:46:53 <DorpsGek> -Cleanup: Remove old editbox focus code which is already handled more generally. 21:47:02 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24726 /trunk/src (13 files in 3 dirs) (2012-11-13 21:46:33 UTC) 21:47:07 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Move editbox mouseloop handling to Window class. 21:47:13 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24727 /trunk/src (3 files in 3 dirs) (2012-11-13 21:46:37 UTC) 21:47:17 <DorpsGek> -Fix: In various windows the OSK looked shiny but using it had no effect whatsoever. 21:47:20 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24728 /trunk/src (3 files in 2 dirs) (2012-11-13 21:46:40 UTC) 21:47:21 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Unify usage of OnOSKInput. 21:47:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24729 /trunk/src (9 files in 3 dirs) (2012-11-13 21:46:46 UTC) 21:47:25 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Unify the handling of HEBR_EDITING. 21:47:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24730 /trunk/src (misc_gui.cpp osk_gui.cpp) (2012-11-13 21:46:50 UTC) 21:47:29 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Allow OSK to simulate widget buttons with index 0. 21:47:32 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24731 /trunk/src (7 files in 2 dirs) (2012-11-13 21:46:54 UTC) 21:47:33 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Remove OnOpenOSKWindow and instead specify OK and CANCEL buttons via QueryString members. 21:47:36 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24732 /trunk/src (10 files in 6 dirs) (2012-11-13 21:46:58 UTC) 21:47:37 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Unify handling of OK and CANCEL actions for editboxes. 21:47:40 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24733 /trunk/src (13 files in 3 dirs) (2012-11-13 21:47:02 UTC) 21:47:41 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Move handling of editbox keys to window class. 21:47:44 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24734 /trunk/src (12 files in 3 dirs) (2012-11-13 21:47:07 UTC) 21:47:45 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Move QueryStringBaseWindow::OnOSKInput to Window::OnEditboxChanged. 21:47:48 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24735 /trunk/src (4 files) (2012-11-13 21:47:13 UTC) 21:47:49 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Move HandleEditBoxKey to Window class. 21:57:41 <SpComb> eek 21:58:32 <frosch123> hgsvn is nice, isn't it? 21:59:21 <SpComb> hg push becomes svn commit? 21:59:28 <frosch123> yup 21:59:43 <SpComb> when are you guys going to migrate mainline off of svn ^^ 22:00:48 <frosch123> that only causes hg vs git discussions 22:01:00 <frosch123> with svn everyone has someone to whine about 22:01:25 <glx> at least with svn revision numbers are constant ;) 22:01:40 <planetmaker> you did use hgsvn? :-) 22:01:58 <__ln__> is git (or hg) even available for all supported platforms? 22:02:22 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:02:35 <frosch123> planetmaker: actually i am not sure, there are two things, i am not sure whether mine is hgsvn or the other one 22:02:48 <frosch123> anyway, i typed hgpushsvn 22:02:55 <planetmaker> :-) 22:03:07 <SpComb> I wonder if you could already do two-way sync between a git repo and a hg repo 22:03:27 <SpComb> just choose both :D 22:04:11 <frosch123> planetmaker: we successfully prevented andy from building too many road vehicles \o/ 22:04:14 <planetmaker> I still have a separate svn repo for commits (but that's the complete svn with all tags etc) 22:04:42 <frosch123> i use hgsvn only when i have many stuff to commit 22:05:09 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-213-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:05:09 <frosch123> pulling from both svn and hg does not quite work, so instead i run a script which sets up a new hgsvn checkout with only HEAD 22:05:10 <planetmaker> :-) I would fear to accidentially push one of my experimental heads from my main hg repo 22:05:13 <frosch123> then i do import and push 22:05:15 <michi_cc> __ln__: No idea about hg (well, python really), but git is even available for stuff like IRIX, HP NonStop or Minix, so I'd say yes. 22:05:45 <frosch123> michi_cc: the question is usually about osx and windows :p 22:05:53 <planetmaker> :D 22:05:53 <frosch123> everyone knows that rare stuff works 22:05:58 <michi_cc> Check and check :) 22:06:36 <frosch123> SpComb: anyway, ottd does not support svn 1.7, happy? 22:06:52 <__ln__> michi_cc: what about OS/2, ReactOS? 22:07:02 <glx> frosch123: because we rely on .svn ? 22:07:11 <frosch123> yes, .svn in src for version detection 22:07:15 <frosch123> noone fixed the script afaik :p 22:08:02 <planetmaker> he... also wheezy still has svn 1.6.17 22:08:15 <frosch123> i am still on squeeze 22:08:49 <planetmaker> I use wheezy here... I needed a newer digiKam ;-) 22:09:00 <SpComb> squeeze-backports 22:09:17 <planetmaker> I know. But wheezy is also already frozen... 22:09:24 <SpComb> true dat 22:09:39 <planetmaker> And main issue is that squeez backports didn't make network, graphics and sound card working ;-) 22:09:45 <planetmaker> but wheezy did 22:10:15 <SpComb> <complaints about distribution release models> 22:10:52 *** Ttech [ttech@has.mostlyincorrect.info] has joined #openttd 22:11:05 <planetmaker> would make sense from my POV to add support for new hardware to old distributions... but well. It would add up quickly 22:11:16 <planetmaker> old = stable 22:11:47 <michi_cc> __ln__: I doubt current trunk even compiles for OS/2 anymore, but google indicates there is an unofficial OS/2 git port. And ReactOS claims to be binary compatible to Windows, so git for windows should do it. 22:14:15 *** Ttech [ttech@has.mostlyincorrect.info] has quit [Quit: Yo no se perro caliente!] 22:15:00 *** ttech2 [ttech@has.mostlyincorrect.info] has joined #openttd 22:15:07 *** ttech2 is now known as Ttech 22:15:15 *** Ttech is now known as Ttech2 22:15:34 *** Ttech2 is now known as Ttech 22:18:10 *** kero [~keikoz@1.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 22:18:19 *** Mizera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:23:23 *** JakeGrey [~chatzilla@host86-159-206-5.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:28 *** JakeGrey_ [~chatzilla@host86-159-206-5.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:23:32 *** JakeGrey_ is now known as JakeGrey 22:24:12 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-213-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:34:24 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@62-241-226-131.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:35:37 <SpComb> Canonical is pushing kernel updates for LTS releases 22:35:42 <SpComb> for hardware support 22:44:58 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:47:53 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:47:54 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49:32 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.43.131.213] has joined #openttd 22:50:01 *** Mizera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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