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[~KEM@ALyon-158-1-93-208.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 05:58:42 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:59:13 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:03:50 <Rubidium> V453000: yeah, very interesting... someone wants to get flamed for not reading known-bugs before filing a bug reportt 06:27:24 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:28:08 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:34:50 *** Markavian [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:35:50 *** Nat_aS [~nat@198.134.92.88] has joined #openttd 06:37:21 *** Nat_aS [~nat@198.134.92.88] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:38:12 *** Nat_aS [~nat@198.134.92.88] has joined #openttd 06:41:20 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 06:49:11 *** perk11 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[Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 10:57:18 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 11:01:16 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 11:02:11 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:10 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 11:11:26 *** Devroush [~dennis@d5152695A.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:15:16 <Rubidium> Ammler: it's not going to be fixed for reasons that can be read in the place I mentioned earlier 11:49:32 <Ammler> Rubidium: yep, that what I meant, it needs to find reasons :-) 12:00:17 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:36 <V453000> I think you know how many pieces of fecal matter do I give about getting flamed, and yes I read the known bugs once a long time ago 12:14:16 <NGC3982> If i set a truck to wait 15 days at station X, and at the same time use the Full load option on the same order. Wich comes first? 12:14:49 <NGC3982> I guess it should mean it always wait a minimum of fifteen days 12:16:40 <V453000> I think it does, but better test it :) 12:16:56 <V453000> set some absurdly high value and let it go to a station with a lot of cargo 12:18:34 <NGC3982> It worked. 12:18:35 <NGC3982> Neat. 12:18:42 <Ammler> I guess, that is situation where you could use dummy tucks/trains 12:19:29 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/eIsY4.png 12:19:32 <NGC3982> Something like that. 12:19:55 <NGC3982> Oh wait 12:20:00 <NGC3982> No, it did not work. 12:20:35 <Ammler> the only thing I see on that screen is that your language is quite badly translated :-) 12:20:41 <NGC3982> Hehe 12:20:42 <NGC3982> Wat. 12:20:45 <NGC3982> Where? 12:21:03 <Ammler> or are those English words also "your" words? 12:21:18 <Ammler> Orders, Full... 12:21:19 <V453000> NGC3982: do you realize that even if the full load didnt work, you could still put the timetable on the drop? 12:21:38 <NGC3982> The full load worked, and the timetable didn't. 12:21:47 <Markk> Ammler: "Order" and "full" is Swedish, yes. 12:22:07 <Markk> Ammler: "Order" means order, and "Full" means either drunk or full. :) 12:22:31 <NGC3982> Lot's of ös and Às init'. 12:22:37 <Markk> yes 12:22:41 <Markk> åÀö 12:22:49 <Markk> NGC3982 is full all the times. 12:22:53 <NGC3982> Well, since this is a distribution system, i might aswell remove the full order option. 12:24:22 <Ammler> I always thought, German has many similar words 12:24:31 <NGC3982> To Swedish? 12:24:36 <Ammler> to English 12:25:18 <NGC3982> Both Swedish and English are based on Germanic region languages. 12:25:45 <NGC3982> Indo-European, or what'ya call it. 12:26:11 <__ln__> No, Indo-European is quite much larger concept. 12:26:57 <NGC3982> According to Wikipedia, Indo-European was way bigger then that, yes. 12:27:13 <NGC3982> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IE_countries.svg 12:27:16 <NGC3982> Eeh. Indeed. 12:43:03 <Eddi|zuHause> basically, everything other than finnish and chinese :) 12:43:20 <Pinkbeast> Basque I think is also thought not to be Indo-European in origin 12:43:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i was being ironic :) 12:47:32 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-112-200.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 12:47:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:50:24 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-115-5.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 12:50:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 12:53:30 <NGC3982> Hehe 12:56:35 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-112-200.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:03:41 *** DanMacK [DanMacK@CPE602ad091690d-CM602ad091690a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 13:04:30 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:13:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1984A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 13:13:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1984A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:18:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1984A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 13:20:27 *** DanMacK [DanMacK@CPE602ad091690d-CM602ad091690a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 13:23:23 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@2607:f358:1:fed5:22:0:6979:842d] has joined #openttd 13:25:03 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:28:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AF57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:42:15 *** sponge [~peter@h-35-3.a254.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 13:43:01 <sponge> Hi guys. I just built the trunk version, I get an error that I'm missing sprites from the base set. Do I need to download opengfx from trunk as well? 13:43:42 <sponge> I chose the download option the first time I ran it, but appearantly im still missing sprites. 13:45:47 <sponge> cant find anything useful using cat=grf and debug level 6. 13:46:24 <sponge> some sprites are skipped, but theres no error reporting. 13:56:26 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.202] has joined #openttd 14:12:57 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, the opengfx version on bananas is insufficient for trunk, so you need a trunk version of opengfx as well 14:14:17 <Eddi|zuHause> it is, however, not a critical error, so you can play without, just some sprites (probably in the GUI) will be replaced by questionmarks because they are missing 14:15:17 <planetmaker> yes. You'll miss out on the delete textbox icons and on the one added before that - which I forgot ;-) 14:15:26 * NGC3982 plays even though he said he wouldn't. 14:15:43 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:16:12 <__ln__> why questionmark and not assert fail like in the good old days? 14:16:54 <Eddi|zuHause> because asserts on wrong input are programming errors :) 14:18:44 * NGC3982 needs to google the word "Assert". 14:21:40 <sponge> Ok, doesnt sound too serious. 14:22:02 <Belugas> hello 14:26:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AF57.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:34 *** Nat_aS [~nat@c-76-24-111-215.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:50:14 <andythenorth> disallow destruction of rivers on the map? :O 15:50:21 <andythenorth> lame. I always bulldoze rivers 15:50:32 <Nat_aS> Just make it really expensive 15:50:44 <Nat_aS> well less expensive than raising sea tiles 15:50:51 <Nat_aS> but almost as expensive 15:51:01 <Nat_aS> and also, probably more city angering 15:51:09 <andythenorth> I'll just reset the bulldoze water cost 15:51:13 <andythenorth> it's trivial 15:51:49 <Nat_aS> nah, we need fluid dynamics 15:52:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 15:55:49 <Eddi|zuHause> it would really be useful to have a "don't allow water destruction" mode similar to AIs, to prevent accidental money spending 16:09:53 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:15:53 <sponge> Eddi|zuHause: some late night LAN games have revealed that a lot of money gets lost that way. :) 16:18:24 <Nat_aS> Bah 16:18:28 <Nat_aS> who cares about money 16:18:32 <Nat_aS> once you got one good line 16:18:44 <Nat_aS> everything might as well be free 16:18:50 <Nat_aS> well except for bribeing towns 16:19:05 <Nat_aS> and if you turn inflation on, buying new engines 16:19:12 <Nat_aS> if the newgrf is not balanced right 16:26:27 <Nat_aS> even then, you just take out billion dollar loans 16:26:40 <Nat_aS> or fast forward 16:31:50 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5f5a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:00 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p57978AA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:11 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 16:37:02 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.202] has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:37:43 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:38:53 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:46:15 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:01:49 *** kero [~keikoz@1.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 17:04:34 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 17:08:24 *** _habnabit [~ferazel@carlotta.habnabit.org] has joined #openttd 17:09:54 <_habnabit> hi! i'm poking at the source to try to implement something to easily, with vehicles with shared orders and timetables, uniformly distribute the start dates of the timetable. i.e. if there's two trains and a 20-day timetable, make the start dates 10 days apart 17:10:02 <_habnabit> has this already been worked on? 17:10:11 <_habnabit> it seems like something someone might've wanted before 17:10:51 <Pinkbeast> It has been tried many times before 17:10:58 <_habnabit> 'tried'? 17:11:01 <Pinkbeast> It's usually called "timetable separation" or similar. 17:11:10 <Pinkbeast> None of the implementations have been totally satisfactory. 17:11:18 <_habnabit> hmm, how not? 17:11:33 <_habnabit> (and where are these implementations?) 17:11:40 <Pinkbeast> Well, the most recent one choked badly with any "go to depot if needs servicing" implementation 17:11:56 <Pinkbeast> I'm suggesting "timetable separation" as a search term for tt-forums 17:12:01 <_habnabit> ah 17:12:47 <Pinkbeast> And a common problem is that a train waits at a station because it is early, holding up the next train on the schedule, which then increases the total time in the timetable, so trains assume they are early, so trains wait at stations, so... 17:12:56 <_habnabit> the other catch is i'm adding it to cargodist 17:12:57 <Pinkbeast> ... this applies to autofilled timetables, obviously. 17:13:17 <Pinkbeast> And another catch seems to be dealing very badly with trains overtaking each other en route 17:13:26 <_habnabit> hmm 17:14:45 <_habnabit> these all seem like problems with timetabling in general, though 17:14:48 <_habnabit> unless that's what you're saying 17:14:56 <Pinkbeast> A useful feature in many of these implementations, I feel, would be to be able to define where on a route trains are to respace themselves, so that one could use a station with plenty of platforms not used by other routes. 17:14:59 <Belugas> so quiet in the office... the americans are doing Thanksgiving. the phones do NOT ring! yeah man!! Time to do some decent work 17:15:46 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-66-108-51-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:15:47 <_habnabit> the feature i wanted to add was just simply distributing the start dates 17:15:54 <Pinkbeast> I do feel some of them are problems with timetabling in general, yes - but they need to be fixed if autoseparation is to work well. 17:16:10 <Pinkbeast> Especially autoseperation in conjunction with rolling autofilling. 17:16:12 <_habnabit> i can (and do) already fuck around with the dates 17:17:33 <Pinkbeast> Ditto I've often felt that a useful feature would be "leave station if another train with the same orders arrives, no matter what", which would dechoke a lot of the pathological cases - or "at most, wait x ticks, no matter what" 17:17:33 <_habnabit> er, not dates, but lengths 17:17:57 <_habnabit> hmmmmm 17:18:38 <Pinkbeast> Every autoseparation (that's another search term) patch I've tried works well if the track is exclusively used by trains with those orders, but as soon as any other trains get in and sometimes-but-not-always slow down the autoseparators, comedy ensues. 17:18:51 <_habnabit> actually, that might be good enough--what if you made it slightly more general and it was 'leave station if another identical train passes a particular target` 17:19:03 <_habnabit> so you could make it another station or a waypoint or what-have-you 17:19:15 <Pinkbeast> That would be better yet, yes - then you could have a waypoint outside the station. 17:19:28 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:19:41 <_habnabit> hmmmm! okay, i think i'll look at implementing this 17:19:43 <_habnabit> i like this idea 17:20:21 <sponge> can anyone point me to a file in the sources where arbitrary strings are used in a drop down? 17:21:38 <sponge> also, does the drop down have a scrollbar if the items exceed the screen height? maybe I should use a list dialog. 17:22:25 <Pinkbeast> Also this alone does a poor man's autoseparation 17:23:10 <_habnabit> yeah 17:23:19 <planetmaker> sponge, just test with a very small OpenTTD window and you'll find your answer :-) 17:23:32 <planetmaker> (wrt scroll bars) 17:23:51 <planetmaker> what are - in your first question - the meaning of 'arbitrary'? 17:24:06 <planetmaker> you might want to look at the language selection in the game options 17:24:40 <_habnabit> planetmaker, but, are you talking about leaving _immediately_ or in cases where the order is full load? 17:24:43 <_habnabit> er 17:24:44 <_habnabit> Pinkbeast, ^ 17:24:53 <sponge> planetmaker: yeah thats the drop feature im looking for 17:25:00 <sponge> arbitrary strings = in game names 17:25:27 <sponge> I have defined a STR_RULES_GROUP_NAME :{STRING1} 17:25:40 <sponge> the dropdown takes an array 17:25:55 <Pinkbeast> I think it should be supported in any case - full load, train waiting because timetable, train waiting for autoseparation adjustment. 17:26:47 <sponge> planetmaker: the dropdown takes an array of StringID, but I somehow need to set that STRING1 argument for n number of options. 17:26:55 <sponge> guess I should look at the game options menu 17:27:04 <_habnabit> Pinkbeast, right, but i mean you probably wouldn't want a train that's unloading to just stop unloading 17:27:04 <Pinkbeast> It's useful for full load because of the cargod*st case where you have the same cargo going back and forth over the same line but would still like trains to wait for a full load if possible 17:27:33 <Pinkbeast> Yes, I agree that a train should finish unloading, but that's OK because it's guaranteed to terminate anyway 17:28:11 <Nat_aS> what about when you have goods being delivered to an island via a boat that shows up once a year, but want to distribute it to the towns via train or truck 17:28:21 <Nat_aS> cargodist dosn't know how to deal with that 17:28:58 <Pinkbeast> Well, hang on, we're not trying to fix all the world's problems here... 17:28:59 <planetmaker> sponge, not immediately visible: often for such menus consecutive strings are used. As they all have a unique ID it suffices to know the ID of the first string. 17:29:19 <sponge> gosh darn it, it takes a list too 17:31:58 <sponge> or rather, it has its own list type 17:36:01 <planetmaker> sponge, vehicle purchase windows also contain a drop down to filter for things like type, cargo or so 17:38:01 <sponge> planetmaker: i suppose one doesnt use std::string ? 17:38:26 <sponge> planetmaker: only found it in fileio, nowhere else. 17:41:25 <planetmaker> I think we don't ever use that 17:42:40 <sponge> roger 17:44:29 <planetmaker> we have our own string functions ;-) 17:52:56 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-20.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:59:11 <sponge> does ShowDropDownList manage the list memory once it's passed to that function? 17:59:47 <sponge> looks like it in settings_gui 18:05:00 <frosch123> yes, it does 18:05:16 <frosch123> though there are two functions 18:05:22 <frosch123> one takes a allocated list of items 18:05:29 <frosch123> the other one takes a static array of strings or so 18:07:21 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8d37:cb08:7e82:2ee0] has joined #openttd 18:07:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:07:59 <sponge> frosch123: yeah. 18:08:04 <sponge> showdropdownmenu takes stringid's 18:08:19 <sponge> altho im getting a segfault when trying to show my list 18:08:28 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:14:23 *** lugo- [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:05 <NGC3982> Evening, animals. 18:16:42 <sponge> DropDownList * list = new DropDownList(); 18:16:42 <sponge> list->push_back(new DropDownListStringItem(STR_RULES_GROUP_NONE, 0, false)); 18:16:45 <sponge> ShowDropDownList(this, list, 0, widget); 18:16:48 <sponge> oops. 18:17:00 <sponge> why would that segfault? 18:17:11 <sponge> I do that in OnClick for my WaypointWindow 18:17:12 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has joined #openttd 18:17:26 <sponge> unless, ofcourse, the widget type is wrong 18:17:41 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:20 *** Devroush [~dennis@d5152695A.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 18:18:34 <sponge> Hm, no, WWT_DROPDOWN for both 18:39:46 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 18:41:13 <sponge> hm. seems to work ok. 18:53:11 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.96.80.192] has joined #openttd 18:55:56 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:59:48 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-102-215.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:04:43 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.195] has joined #openttd 19:05:35 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-115-5.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:29 <DanMacK> Hey all 19:14:53 *** KritiK [~Maxim@128-72-35-141.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:15:14 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:47 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:18:11 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.195] has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:23:50 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.195] has joined #openttd 19:24:09 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.195] has quit [] 19:25:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:31:29 <sponge> Where should I call SetDParamStr to set a RAW_STRING parameter for my string? DrawWidget? 19:32:00 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:33:41 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:35:35 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.195] has joined #openttd 19:36:14 <frosch123> for WWT_TEXT and similar stuff which draws texts itself there is a SetStringParams function or similar 19:36:18 <frosch123> in the window class 19:37:38 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:37:47 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 19:38:01 <sponge> frosch123: this is a dropdown 19:38:09 <sponge> I have a list of char * displayed in it. 19:38:35 <frosch123> you mean you have dparams for the dropdown entries? 19:38:51 <frosch123> then use DropDownListParamStringItem 19:38:53 <sponge> no DropDownListCharStringItem's' 19:39:00 <sponge> Hm, that might be better. 19:39:28 <sponge> I have a list of groups with names given by the user. 19:39:31 <frosch123> DropDownListCharStringItem is for a single raw string 19:39:44 <frosch123> DropDownListParamStringItem is for general strings 19:40:00 <sponge> I know. 19:40:21 <sponge> I have STR_RULES_GROUP_NAME :{WHITE}{RAW_STRING} 19:40:56 <sponge> when I select one of the items in the drop down I want the dropdown button text to change to the selected. 19:41:08 <frosch123> i don't think you should set colour codes in the dropdowns 19:41:17 <frosch123> aren't they used for selected / not selected? 19:42:03 <sponge> yes. 19:42:20 <sponge> But that's besides the point... Or problem. 19:42:25 <sponge> May be :{RAW_STRING} 19:42:32 <sponge> or, if I can, just have the raw string displayed. 19:42:38 <frosch123> to set the parameters of the string on the WWT_DROPDOWN, use SetStringParameters 19:42:39 <sponge> It's an arbitrary (user input) name anyway. 19:43:17 <sponge> aha. its a virtual override 19:43:35 <sponge> right right, I think it's coming back to me now. 19:43:46 <frosch123> it's called for drawing and for determining the size of texts for window resizing 19:48:43 <sponge> There we have it. 19:48:44 <sponge> Working fine. 19:48:58 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:50:11 <sponge> Thanks da assist. 19:50:17 <sponge> frosch123++ 19:50:30 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-93-208.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:51:40 <andythenorth> I made an app today 19:51:43 <andythenorth> called Pony Farm 19:51:48 <andythenorth> it's not for ottd 19:53:00 <Eddi|zuHause> how dare you!! 19:55:16 <andythenorth> I think there's a FIRS oil well in the right of this picture http://www.railpictures.net/photo/415377/ 20:06:37 <Eddi|zuHause> americans are weird... tons of free space bu they don't manage to build a straight line 20:08:33 <_habnabit> is there a service that'll build openttd binaries for you? 20:09:17 <_habnabit> i'd rather not try to figure out how to build on windows 20:09:25 <Terkhen> hello 20:09:35 <Terkhen> _habnabit: no 20:09:44 <_habnabit> dang 20:10:26 <Eddi|zuHause> there used to be "buildottd", but it's probably horribly outdated 20:10:32 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:39 <frosch123> that one is broken since 2009 :p 20:10:49 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise, there's a build walkthrough in the wiki 20:12:24 <Rubidium> frosch123: you mean that it died together with ttdp? ;) 20:13:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BAB0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:13:12 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BAB0.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14:14 <andythenorth> pay someone to build it...mechanical turk? 20:14:54 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BAB0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:15:44 <sponge> _habnabit: configure && make ? :) 20:15:46 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 20:15:48 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 20:27:12 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:35:35 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 20:40:45 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:41:48 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:53:35 <andythenorth> bed time 20:53:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:54:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AF57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:01:04 *** sponge [~peter@h-35-3.a254.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:20:59 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 21:35:00 <frosch123> night 21:35:04 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5f5a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:56 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:48:00 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.219] has joined #openttd 21:51:34 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-20.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 21:51:43 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p57978AA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Sturmi] 22:05:10 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:05:50 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:21 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:21:32 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/6Oei0.png 22:21:39 <NGC3982> It's my first time. 22:23:05 <Kylie> hi NGC3982 22:23:10 <NGC3982> Kylie: Evening! 22:23:35 <Kylie> NGC3982: did u have an issue ? 22:24:01 <NGC3982> No, none at all. 22:24:39 <NGC3982> I was happily showing how i for the first time (after seven years of OpenTTD) found engine grouping as a usefull feature. 22:24:47 *** kero [~keikoz@1.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 22:26:32 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:27:42 <Eddi|zuHause> what's the meaning of the arrow icon? 22:29:37 <NGC3982> The gray one? 22:29:39 <NGC3982> I have no idea. 22:35:01 <Eddi|zuHause> something to do with autoreplace? 22:35:07 <NGC3982> Might be 22:35:32 <NGC3982> Yes, that was it 22:35:46 <NGC3982> I forgot, the autoreplace function does not turn off, even if all trains are replaces. 22:37:13 <Kjetil> saws and shit ? 22:37:17 <Kylie> NGC3982: it does turn off 22:37:50 <NGC3982> Kylie: Apparently not. I had to turn it off to make the arrow go away. 22:38:16 <NGC3982> By the way, it's on Ttd.dndr.se 22:40:15 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-101-41.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:40:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 22:41:14 <NGC3982> Hmz. 22:41:31 <NGC3982> Any tip on how i can place a funded Fishing Harbour? 22:41:39 <NGC3982> It's a tad and a bit hard to place. 22:44:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AF57.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:12 <V453000> just try until you succeed 22:44:49 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:33 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-102-215.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:47:52 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:48:39 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:49:17 * NGC3982 succeeded. 22:57:59 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-63-147.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:03:54 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-101-41.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:13 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:04:23 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 23:05:13 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 23:07:54 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:11:59 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:12:24 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 23:14:34 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-93-208.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:04 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable105.141-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 23:29:12 <drac_boy> hi 23:29:21 <DDR> Helllo. 23:31:13 <drac_boy> how're you ddr? 23:31:26 <DDR> Past the age of majority, thankfully. 23:32:19 <DDR> What's up? 23:33:35 <drac_boy> sorting out computer parts...not much else tonight otherwise 23:33:37 <drac_boy> you? 23:34:08 <DDR> Reading a few news items from Hacker News, but then I've got some software to attend to. 23:35:18 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:00 <DDR> I'll post it here when I'm done, if I get done today. :/ 23:38:52 <drac_boy> :) 23:41:25 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:48 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd