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http://imgur.com/lgEkv 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p57BD485C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p5DC67F40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:59:10 *** trikol [trikol@c253847C1.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [] 06:27:43 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:27:46 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:35:12 *** Markavian [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:40:12 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 06:55:38 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-127-254.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 07:00:31 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 07:01:12 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-42-223.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:27:31 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:48:14 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 08:02:19 *** Arafangion [~Arafangio@220-244-108-23.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:17:42 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 08:37:04 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 08:39:17 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-241.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 08:46:35 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 09:50:57 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-241.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 10:08:30 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-223-119-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:17:29 * NGC3982 would use EPS all the way. 10:22:36 <Arafangion> EPS? 10:23:48 <NGC3982> The electric path signal (and mostly one-way). 10:24:17 <NGC3982> I'm not the right person to teach about PBS, but it mostly suits me. 10:25:32 <Arafangion> Ah, that. 10:26:44 <NGC3982> I haven't (oddly enough since ive been playing OpenTTD for quite som time now) botherd to learn using PBS correctly, though. 10:26:48 <NGC3982> Maybe, it's time. 10:28:20 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:30:31 <peter1138> I would've replied had they not left... 10:30:57 <peter1138> I don't think I've ever seen path signals referred to as "EPS" before, though. 10:32:23 <NGC3982> I was trying to refer to the design more than the function. 10:32:35 <NGC3982> But yes, could have used something more correct. 10:45:14 <dihedral> hello 10:50:43 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:58:22 <peter1138> Hello dihedral. 10:58:33 <dihedral> helli sir :-) 11:07:50 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-223-119-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:15:39 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-223-119-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:17:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:53:57 *** cypher [~Miranda@wced-111-219-32-147.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 11:59:26 <Flygon> I can't be stuffed using entry/exit signals, if that's what you mean :P 12:02:34 <peter1138> They're a bit oldschool 12:05:54 <Flygon> They are? 12:06:30 <Flygon> I always got by perfectly with ordinary one-way and those signals that have a signal on one end but can be passed from behind 12:08:55 <peter1138> o_O 12:09:55 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-223-119-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13:44 <V453000> not to mention that the possibilities using pre-signals are just ridiculously various :p 12:14:46 <NGC3982> What Flygon said. 12:14:57 <NGC3982> I don't think i have ever used entry/exit for something useful 12:15:33 <V453000> that is rather sad 12:16:25 <Flygon> I don't really think of any particulary uses for it at this moment 12:16:36 <Flygon> None that're entirely practical, anyway 12:17:39 <V453000> telling trains why to go where, under what conditions to go or not, chaining the conditions, making the conditions consist of almost absolutely anything, ... 12:18:17 <V453000> like, let train A go towards the station if there is a) at least an empty platform, b) no other train coming to the station, c) no other train going towards that platform 12:18:24 <V453000> and anything else you could think of 12:22:35 <NGC3982> Well, i guess that is true, and i guess it's sad that i don't use it. 12:22:36 <Flygon> I'm pretty sure you can do that with just one-way and pass-behind signals 12:22:36 <NGC3982> But it works. 12:22:45 <NGC3982> And i have never got around to learn about it. 12:22:53 <Flygon> Barring b... if it's a two-way station 12:23:04 <Flygon> But honestly 12:23:20 <Flygon> I'd rather have multiple trains going in at once, rather than just one at once, for the sake of time 12:23:31 <Flygon> I see no reason not to shove in-shove out as fast as possible 12:23:47 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 12:24:01 <Flygon> DDR clearly hasn't seen me on other networks 12:24:12 <V453000> that has nothing to do with throughput, those trains could be like a backup coming from elsewhere 12:24:37 <Flygon> What do you mean? 12:24:54 <Flygon> A train going via? 12:25:34 <V453000> no like a train stored in a depot because it couldnt load previously 12:27:48 <Flygon> Oh, you mean a train going into the depot instead of the station 12:27:54 <Flygon> Then going into the station when there's room? 12:28:03 <Flygon> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/berlin2016.png What I end up using 12:29:07 <NGC3982> Almost the same as me 12:29:29 <Flygon> Ah 12:29:33 <Flygon> Why're we arguing then? :D 12:29:36 <Flygon> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/brusseltransit.png It clearly works :D 12:30:48 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/suRw3.png 12:30:51 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/ivXNI.png 12:30:59 <NGC3982> Well 12:31:04 <NGC3982> I guess one could up the anti a bit 12:31:25 <NGC3982> For instance, using entry exit to send trains to a nearby depot when a station is full 12:31:52 <SpComb> hmm... interesting how minecraft compares to openttd in terms of community servers and customizations 12:31:57 <Flygon> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/chicagostation.png Also, why OTTD needs platform selecting :p 12:32:10 <Flygon> I ended up having to turn it into a terminus D: 12:32:26 <SpComb> minecraft has mods/texture packs where openttd has patches/newgrfs, etc 12:32:43 <Flygon> NGC: Your stations are much cleaner than mine 12:32:59 <Flygon> Ragnarok Online just gets plain GRF's :B 12:33:01 <NGC3982> I do not think i use as much traffic. 12:33:08 <Flygon> Pain in the arse to mod, though 12:33:11 <V453000> no, the trains go to depot because station is full, diverted by 2way block signals 12:33:11 <Flygon> Ah, true 12:33:19 <Flygon> You seem focused on cargo, not insane amonts of passenger 12:33:28 <NGC3982> On this map, yes. 12:33:32 <NGC3982> It's on ttd.dndr.se 12:33:38 <NGC3982> If you want to take a looker 12:33:44 <NGC3982> V453000: I see. 12:35:08 <peter1138> So many signals in Berlin? 12:35:53 <Flygon> peter1138: Me being lazy with signal spacing, if you're referring to the 1-ways 12:36:54 <NGC3982> When taking the theoretical spacing between tiles in consideration, that's not that many? ;) 12:37:14 <Flygon> I'm confused now 12:37:52 <Flygon> ...oh wow 12:38:08 <Flygon> Why do I have a 6 track segment on this map @_@" 12:38:34 <Flygon> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651992/Flurrail27.sav Here, go laugh at my insanely lazy rail network design :p 13:13:21 *** cypher [~Miranda@wced-111-219-32-147.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Exit signals, mind, don't make sense, if not preceeded by an entry signal 16:20:54 <planetmaker> (or by a combination of combo and entry signals) 16:21:45 *** Nat_aS [~nat@c-24-63-106-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:22:39 <V453000> pm that happens when 2 comboes lead to 1 signal block 16:22:58 <V453000> both trains at both entry signals leading to the comboes wait at the same time, both start at the same time, but only one can go through ofc 16:23:11 <planetmaker> of course 16:23:22 <planetmaker> I mean... *you* know how they work ;-) 16:23:46 <planetmaker> all I wanted to say is: they work as specified. If you make a bad design... your problem :-) 16:24:00 <planetmaker> their purpose is to show red, if the block behind them is occupied 16:24:27 <planetmaker> and there are ways to construct your signal block so that only one train will enter the whole cascade 16:24:35 <planetmaker> albeit a bit more complex possibly 16:25:12 <planetmaker> which then, of course, could simply also be broken down to only using one signal block, if you don't want a train to stop an intermediate signal at all 16:25:28 <planetmaker> </monologue> :-P 16:26:17 <V453000> :P 16:27:17 *** Nat_aS [~nat@c-24-63-106-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:35:21 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:36:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:40:32 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 16:41:22 *** Eddi|zuHause3 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 16:44:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:56:52 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:57:36 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:53 *** sponge [~peter@h-35-3.a254.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:02:02 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:13:23 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 17:15:38 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:21:25 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:41:34 *** Nat_aS [~nat@c-24-63-106-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:47:37 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:84af:e6bc:b5ef:1fb7] has joined #openttd 17:47:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:59:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B548.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:21:54 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:21:57 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:22:12 <Alberth> hi hi 18:24:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v Alberth] by ChanServ 18:24:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 18:24:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v planetmaker] by ChanServ 18:24:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 18:24:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v SmatZ] by ChanServ 18:24:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v orudge] by ChanServ 18:31:15 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:32:12 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32:39 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 18:35:27 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00bfdd.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:03 <Terkhen> hello 18:36:21 <frosch123> hola terkhen :) 18:36:30 *** tycoondemon [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:12 <Alberth> quak 18:41:18 <andythenorth> quak quak quak 18:41:42 <frosch123> moin :p 18:41:56 <andythenorth> still sounds like a duck to me :P 18:42:01 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d083d72.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:54:17 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-92-99.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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22:36:09 <NGC3982> For FIRS, for instance? 22:36:25 <supermop> yes, if the advanced settings are set to allow it 22:37:35 <NGC3982> Oh, i see. 22:37:37 <NGC3982> Snap, i missed that. 22:40:22 *** Mikk36 [~mikk36@82.131.59.243.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:36 <NGC3982> supermop: Where do i find this setting? 22:40:41 *** Mikk36 [~mikk36@82.131.59.243.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 22:40:46 <NGC3982> I thought that originally was a NewGRF parameter. 22:40:56 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-15-108.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:44:10 <supermop> in the advanced settings menu i think under the economy tree 22:44:30 <supermop> set to either 'prospecting' or 'as other industries' 22:45:22 <NGC3982> Ah! 22:45:27 <NGC3982> supermop: Thank you, so much. :-) 22:45:33 <supermop> no problem 22:45:58 <supermop> primary industries generally tend to be much more expensive though 22:48:18 <NGC3982> Yes, i noticed. 22:48:40 <NGC3982> When i get to the "end" of a map (2050-ish with no new trains), it feels like a good feature to start building new industries. 22:49:09 <NGC3982> Since with FIRS, good usage always results in a grandé surplus of farm- and engineering supplies. 22:49:12 <NGC3982> :-) 22:49:49 <supermop> which i guess makes sense gameplay wise, but i find it odd that planting a field of pine trees cost 1-2 orders of magnitude more than building a steel mill 22:50:04 <NGC3982> Hehe 23:04:02 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/6BOKx.png 23:04:13 <NGC3982> Can someone remind me to send this to Andy when he returns (sober). 23:15:03 <Eddi|zuHause> looks interesting :) 23:16:30 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 23:16:49 <NGC3982> The thing is, the artifacts only appear on that tile type 23:17:08 <NGC3982> As far as i have tried. 23:18:16 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:18:20 *** tycoondemon [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 23:26:57 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-92-99.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:29:56 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:30:55 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-223-119-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32:10 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.16.174.96] has joined #openttd 23:38:07 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-92-99.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 23:43:55 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 23:44:35 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Sturmi] 23:53:29 <Wolf01> 'night 23:53:32 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.]