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"Change equipment dates according to prevailing political regime" 10:03:52 <Eddi|zuHause> :) 10:04:20 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:11:31 <andythenorth> maybe newgrf shouldn't bother with intro dates 10:11:55 <andythenorth> maybe they should just specify 'epoch', and OpenTTD should define the epochs, according to scenario or such 10:14:04 <V453000> does 1986-1987 count as an epoch? :P 10:14:54 <andythenorth> if the game says so, yes :P 10:15:19 <andythenorth> hmm 10:15:23 <andythenorth> I was just dicking around 10:15:30 <andythenorth> but this could be a solution to day length 10:15:40 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: that's difficult, as "epochs" are not quite that fixed time ranges 10:15:50 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: I know :) 10:15:56 <andythenorth> just define epochs 1-n 10:16:14 <andythenorth> newgrf says 'vehicle appears in [epochs]' 10:16:24 <andythenorth> let the game match epochs to dates 10:16:35 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds stupid 10:16:52 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:19:36 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:23:36 <andythenorth> probably :) 10:27:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A195F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:31:45 <V453000> not to mention that you can make all that currently from newGRF side? :P 10:44:31 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 10:46:05 *** Xotic750 [~xotic750@static-81.216.64.210.addr.tdcsong.se] has joined #openttd 10:47:26 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-211.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:47:47 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-94-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:47:55 <Wolf01> hello o/ 10:56:35 *** Xotic750 [~xotic750@static-81.216.64.210.addr.tdcsong.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:01:28 <Alberth> hello 11:07:37 <andythenorth> V453000: my point is that newgrfs shouldn't control that :P 11:07:52 <andythenorth> I am declaring war on newgrf ;) 11:09:20 <V453000> :P 11:09:21 <andythenorth> newgrfs are stupid. They should just provide graphics and some fundamental properties 11:09:44 <V453000> yes and no :) 11:10:02 <V453000> it is great that you can do anything with a newGRF 11:10:27 <V453000> but seeing how poorly playable for example most train sets are, could be fixed by unified mechanism :P 11:10:30 <V453000> but where would be the fun :P 11:13:39 <Alberth> imho the decisions that need more overview should be kept in the game engine, but unfortunately, TTDP moved some of these things into newgrf too 11:14:35 <Alberth> which no doubt at the time was the best that could be done 11:15:50 <V453000> possibilities are nice to have ... and nothing is idiot-proof :P 11:18:06 <Alberth> sure, we are probably making lots of stupid mistakes right now :p 11:20:03 <andythenorth> the only real mistake was the idea that one author - making a trainset - should dictate the entire gameplay experience :) 11:21:10 <Alberth> the game is more than playing with trains????? :o :) 11:22:12 <andythenorth> perhaps we should remove other types of transport? 11:22:16 <andythenorth> simpler no? 11:22:18 <peter1138> let's scrap it all 11:22:20 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:23:15 <andythenorth> can we make a text adventure version? o_O 11:24:10 <Alberth> open the console :p 11:30:02 <V453000> that is pretty much what I meant andy :) but well 11:44:03 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd0e9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:00:13 <Alberth> quak 12:00:30 <frosch123> moin :) 12:03:06 <Flygon> OpenTTD: Now ported to typewriter! 12:03:37 <frosch123> sounds like libaa 12:03:41 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.82.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:07:24 <Pinkbeast> GET COAL. GO TO POWER STATION. DROP COAL. 12:09:32 <Flygon> DRAW PICTURE OF COAL 12:10:31 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable105.141-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 12:10:43 <drac_boy> hi 12:11:02 <Flygon> Heya 12:11:12 <Flygon> We're playing typewriter OpenTTD 12:11:19 <drac_boy> hm? 12:11:33 <Flygon> PICK UP PASSENGERS FROM PLODDINGWAY. WAIT 6 DAYS AT STATION. 12:11:40 <Flygon> Yeah, we ported it apperantly :D 12:11:53 <DorpsGek> type all caps until you get kicked 12:11:55 <drac_boy> you're strange flygon :p 12:12:01 <andythenorth> ADD NEWGRF TO RUNNING GAME. ABORT 12:12:05 <andythenorth> COMPLAIN 12:12:11 <Flygon> I love you, andythenorth 12:12:12 <Wolf01> BUILD ROAD. BUILD ROAD. BUILD ROAD. BUILD ROAD. CHANGE DIRECTION. BUILD ROAD. BUILD ROAD. BUILD ROAD. BUILD BRIDGE. BUILD ROAD. BUILD ROAD. 12:12:29 <Sturmi> NUKE ALL 12:12:42 <andythenorth> UNDO UNDO UNDO 12:12:45 <Flygon> Sturmi has been playing Alpha Centauri again 12:12:53 <Alberth> ERR: No nuke available 12:12:57 <DorpsGek> is there a way to pipe 'users' into 'kick' like 'xargs' or so? 12:13:25 <andythenorth> START GAME. MAKE MORE NEWGRFS. PLAY AGAIN 12:13:33 <Wolf01> ctrl + select on the user list 12:13:36 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.105.114] has joined #openttd 12:14:43 <Flygon> What have I done 12:15:40 <Alberth> you should release the game, it's gone be big 12:16:22 * Flygon gives Alberth a typewriter and 54353 page instruction book 12:16:38 <andythenorth> Alberth: it needs a shinier interface. Modern players expect modern standards. This game will never be big without modern graphics. 12:17:07 <andythenorth> for example, games commonly played use anti-aliasing on their fonts 12:17:29 <Flygon> But it's naturally antialiased 12:17:31 <Flygon> TO THE ATOM 12:17:43 <andythenorth> if we want to grow the userbase, we should implement AA. It's not much work. And if it is, we should consider rewriting all of the engine to support AA. 12:17:48 <andythenorth> otherwise we'll never get a lot of players 12:18:03 <Flygon> Doesn't 32bpp support AA? 12:20:39 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-211.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 12:26:39 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:20 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:00:59 <andythenorth> woo 13:01:07 <andythenorth> a FIRS industry conversion compiled first time :P 13:06:45 <andythenorth> 30 open FIRS tickets :P 13:07:28 <andythenorth> closed 8 this weekend :P 13:18:15 <peter1138> so, anyone collect hornby model railway stuff? 13:18:36 <Pinkbeast> My dad used to, if that's any help. :-/ 13:19:12 <peter1138> i have box of it 13:19:19 <peter1138> which i never use 13:19:23 <peter1138> so i wanna get rid of it 13:19:35 <Pinkbeast> Ah, I see. 13:19:56 <peter1138> and an HST in original box 13:20:21 <andythenorth> must be some train nerds here? 13:20:28 <andythenorth> or save it for your kids? 13:20:29 <andythenorth> :P 13:20:38 <peter1138> nah 13:20:40 <peter1138> got lego for that 13:21:11 <andythenorth> this baby just did a massive burp 13:23:40 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 13:26:45 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.105.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:38:41 <frosch123> hmm ottd diff settings say "Vehicle running costs" for years.. 13:38:49 <frosch123> isn't "cost" one of those words without plural? 13:44:19 *** Superuser [~Superuser@host86-157-219-238.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:44:34 <Superuser> Found an error in an original string 13:44:35 <Superuser> http://translator.openttd.org/en/trunk/el_GR/STR_CONFIG_SETTING_SMOOTH_ECONOMY_HELPTEXT 13:44:48 <Superuser> You can have multiple NewGRFs that affect industry, not just one. Remove the 'a' 13:45:00 <Superuser> And yes, I did say I'm very pedantic with my corrections :) 13:45:12 <frosch123> usually you only have one :p 13:45:20 <Superuser> but you can have more :P 13:45:21 <frosch123> (counting "ecs" as one) 13:45:30 <frosch123> i don't know any 13:45:42 <Superuser> well, I guess technically you can, so... 13:46:25 <Superuser> I have not tried it though unless some server had more than one and I wasn't aware of it (I usually am not aware of a server configuration unless it's spelt out for me, lol 13:48:27 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.19.19.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 13:52:05 <frosch123> damn... my google cookies totally screw my searches 13:52:17 <frosch123> everytime i search a train term, the first hit is ottd wiki 13:52:31 <frosch123> or other tt related sites 13:52:41 <Superuser> it's called the filter buble. It's the reason I don't use Google Search anymore (unless I really have to) 13:52:57 <Superuser> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble 13:52:57 <frosch123> so, does someone have a more official name for roro stations? (in constrast to terminus station) which i could use in the settings gui? 13:53:36 <Superuser> A more illustrated guide: http://dontbubble.us/ 13:53:40 <peter1138> frosch123, no, costs is valid. 13:53:46 <Superuser> ^ That's the search engine I use btw 13:54:22 <peter1138> ("costed" is wrong, but i don't think we use that) 13:57:50 <Alberth> true :) 13:58:06 <frosch123> Superuser: even that directs me to ottd when searching "roro station" :p 13:59:12 <frosch123> well, i will use "non-terminus" then 13:59:58 <Superuser> Alberth, what do you think of the string I spoke about above? I remember you fixed a minor error I pointed out a while back. 14:00:44 <peter1138> http://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-opposite-of/terminus.html 14:02:00 <frosch123> hmm, looks i am unable to give an unbiased description of the disaster setting :p 14:02:18 <Alberth> Superuser: I see "a" as "any", ie it does not exclude the option to have more industry newgrfs 14:03:21 <Alberth> like "you get books from a book shop" does not exclude the option of visiting several book shops to get all your books 14:03:43 <Superuser> I guess, but the previous translator did not realise this and translated 'a' to 'one (because there is no such thing as an ambiguous 'a' in Greek and probably in most languages) 14:04:03 <Superuser> I wouldn't doubt that many other translations are incorrect due to this upstream ambiguity 14:04:36 <Alberth> Superuser: all spoken languages are ambiguous, no matter how you phrase things 14:05:04 <Superuser> It is upstream's responsibility to remove these ambiguities though. 14:05:04 <Alberth> that's why we have judges :p 14:05:34 <peter1138> it's the translators job to not mis-translate ;p 14:06:14 <Alberth> Superuser: In English, it's correct. We don't speak most languages that have translations, so we cannot even find such mistakes. 14:07:01 <Superuser> as you wish :'-( 14:07:04 <Alberth> ie you can change the English version, but some other translator will translatae that wrong as well 14:07:39 <Alberth> become a translator too, and fix the error would be my advice 14:08:37 <Superuser> you know I *am* a tranlator right, and that I've modified at least 300 strings in the past week or two? 14:08:53 <Superuser> Don't you see 'Evropi' *every day* in the latest automatic commit? 14:09:03 <Flygon> Oh snap 14:09:04 <Superuser> :P 14:09:05 <Alberth> sorry, I didn't know 14:09:25 * frosch123 is currently about to remove about 30 translations from every language :p 14:10:13 <Alberth> and no, I don't even look at the translation commits, as I cannot read them anyway, and the system is ensuring technical correctness 14:11:29 <Superuser> There is a feed that comes up at about 0:00 BST if I'm not mistaken, you can see my name there :) 14:11:34 <Superuser> in the IRC 14:12:15 <Alberth> thank you for providing the translation :) 14:13:02 <Superuser> thanks for providing a badass game :) 14:13:51 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.105.114] has joined #openttd 14:18:59 <frosch123> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1958/ <- here you have a chance to correct strings before they are added :p 14:21:03 <Superuser> I dunno, I think OpenTTD is leaning ever more towards feature creep 14:21:12 <Superuser> It's slowly becoming Simutrans 14:21:22 <Superuser> not sure if I agree with that :( 14:21:32 <Flygon> Could always make two versions 14:22:31 <drac_boy> Superuser simutrans...like how? 14:22:41 <Superuser> STR_CONFIG_SETTING_RECESSIONS :Recessions: {STRING2} -----> probability of recessions occuring? 14:23:07 <frosch123> its a bool setting, on/off 14:23:14 <frosch123> btw. none of those settings are new 14:23:22 <frosch123> they are the current difficulty settings 14:24:03 <Superuser> yeah, I generally avoid the advanced settings menu hahaha 14:24:31 <frosch123> you won't get around it in ottd 1.3 :p 14:24:39 <frosch123> but it got better 14:25:06 <Superuser> I don't want to do the ADOM thing (I read the manual for it before I played it; it took me two hours to read it) (ADOM is a huge roguelike game) 14:25:37 * drac_boy has everything set up manually in ttdpatch.cfg anyway ... :P 14:25:40 <drac_boy> heh 14:26:17 <Alberth> frosch123: Maximum amount a company can loan (without inflation) <-- (without taking inflaction into account) ? 14:26:17 <frosch123> there should be a movie, like the last mohican, but with drac_boy 14:26:19 <Superuser> STR_CONFIG_SETTING_DISASTERS_HELPTEXT :Enable disasters which might occasionally block or destroy vehicles or infrastructure -----> 'might' to 'may' (http://www.englishgrammarsecrets.com/maymight/menu.php) 14:26:33 <drac_boy> frosch123? 14:26:43 <frosch123> drac_boy: "the last ttdp user" 14:26:55 <drac_boy> I doubt that 14:27:05 <Alberth> frosch123: :Enable disasters <-- Toggle ? 14:30:28 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0e413.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:40:51 <andythenorth> 27 open FIRS tickets o_O 14:41:09 <Alberth> running out of things to do? :) 14:41:18 <andythenorth> hardly :) 14:41:54 <andythenorth> dan has drawn replacements for most of default industries 14:42:06 <andythenorth> among other things ;) 14:42:34 <Alberth> nice, having some default industries was quite confusing to me ;) 14:43:14 <andythenorth> interesting 14:43:24 <andythenorth> I thought they would aid learning :o 14:47:28 <frosch123> andythenorth: when you are done with firs, you can continue with ottd osx bugs :) you have a fair chance to get the number of osx specific bugs below the number of win specific bugs :p 14:47:41 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:47:48 <frosch123> you should value that historical chance :) 14:47:54 <andythenorth> o_O 14:48:05 <andythenorth> I have little chance of success :P 14:48:38 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 14:48:43 <Superuser> why not just compile wit mingw and the equivalent under Mac 14:48:44 <frosch123> alternatively you can ofc find more win specific bugs :p 14:49:02 <Superuser> that would solve 99% of your win-specific problems infa 100% 14:49:19 <drac_boy> heh 14:49:40 <frosch123> Superuser: we do not count the mingw specific bugs 14:49:57 <Superuser> that's because you compile with MSVC... 14:50:21 <frosch123> it is the reason we have separate win32 and win9x builds 14:50:36 <frosch123> with the win9x build lacking various features 14:52:08 <Superuser> fuck win9x, who uses that anyway? It is 12 years ago now since ME was released (the last in line before NT) 14:52:40 <andythenorth> flyspray has no search filter for OS? 14:53:30 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53:33 <frosch123> osx tasks are tagged in the title 14:53:40 <frosch123> not all windows tasks yet thouzgh 14:54:13 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 14:54:29 <drac_boy> Superuser actually I use the 9x build for all windows computers 14:54:41 <Superuser> why? Testing? 14:54:49 <frosch123> maybe we can also add a [boring] task for stuff like fs#5209 14:54:49 <drac_boy> nope 14:54:54 <Alberth> compability with ttdp :p 14:54:56 <frosch123> thought that might offense people :p 14:55:01 <Superuser> What is ttdp? 14:55:03 <frosch123> or may? :p 14:55:22 <drac_boy> Superuser I do it that way because that way I don't have to explain the silly useless 'unable to find ___' errors 14:55:34 <drac_boy> I wish they would had not split the builds at 0.6 but meh whatever 14:55:35 <Superuser> well, I guess it's okay as long as it doesn't affect other systems 14:55:57 <andythenorth> 12 open 14:56:00 <andythenorth> for OS X 14:57:31 <andythenorth> hmm 14:58:35 <andythenorth> some of the OS X issues have a lot of attached patches 14:58:43 <andythenorth> I guess they need testing? 15:00:07 <Zuu> drac_boy: Since 1.2, OpenTTD will offer to download OpenGFX if it can't be found. Eg. even if you use the zip and not the installer, OpenTTD can in most cases grab the minimum data files to start up. 15:08:37 <drac_boy> thats not the issue zuu 15:08:42 <drac_boy> its not the grf.. its the system files 15:09:38 <ntoskrnl> drac_boy: do you mean the msvcr libraries? 15:24:51 *** chester_ [~chester@128-72-10-241.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i'm coming from outside and have to think of Belugas for some reason 15:57:32 <andythenorth> schnee? 15:57:50 <Sturmi> you can keep yours 16:18:55 <peter1138> don't think of Belugas, he's mine 16:25:05 *** kero [~keikoz@1.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:53 *** ntoskrnl11 [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:27:11 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 16:27:35 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC676A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@93.198.118.161] has joined #openttd 16:34:11 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:34:16 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:56 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:17:27 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:35:30 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable105.141-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 17:44:53 *** kero [~keikoz@1.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 17:54:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:59:05 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-211.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:59:05 * Rubidium wonders whether Eddi saw white whale swimming in the street ;) 18:01:22 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:02:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:37 *** Mister_Argent [~kvirc@c-98-226-56-20.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:03:40 <Mister_Argent> 'ello. 18:04:49 *** Superuser [~Superuser@host86-157-219-238.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 18:06:26 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.154] has joined #openttd 18:13:23 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 18:23:51 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.154] has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:41:08 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:29 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24778 /trunk/src/lang (4 files in 2 dirs) (2012-12-02 18:45:22 UTC) 18:45:30 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:31 <DorpsGek> basque - 20 changes by lutxiketa 18:45:32 <DorpsGek> greek - 115 changes by Evropi 18:45:33 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 1 changes by Stabilitronas 18:45:34 <DorpsGek> luxembourgish - 53 changes by Phreeze 18:47:31 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 18:52:48 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 19:17:00 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:11 <NGC3982> Evening, gents and mormons. 19:25:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:28:49 <andythenorth> I wish to announce that the game is unrealistic, and that this is a problem 19:29:46 <frosch123> arctic is more realistic than the other climates 19:29:52 <frosch123> it has snow 19:30:19 <FLHerne> andythenorth: The answer is to make it more realistic. Your grfs help with that :-) 19:30:22 <andythenorth> apparently the snow is not realistic enough 19:30:36 <NGC3982> Yey, snow. 19:30:48 <NGC3982> What is unrealistic? 19:30:57 <andythenorth> pixels 19:31:05 <andythenorth> pixels are very unrealistic 19:31:21 <andythenorth> are pixels actually rectangular / square? 19:31:34 <andythenorth> or do they have ragged edges? 19:32:57 <NGC3982> Pixels are a great way to simulate reality. arbitrary points of building blocks actually exist in real life. 19:33:20 <NGC3982> +A 19:35:08 <NGC3982> The only thing that differs is size and charge. Just like formations of matter, the visible part of a pixel is not square or circular. 19:35:21 <NGC3982> So, I would very much say s 19:35:34 <NGC3982> that pixels are realistic* 19:35:50 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 19:36:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:38:03 <NGC3982> ..If that was a serious thought at all. 19:38:32 <frosch123> pixels are very realistic 19:38:38 <frosch123> the world is made of small particles 19:39:14 <frosch123> flat screens are unrealsitic though, if they force pixels to be rectangular 19:40:12 <Eddi|zuHause> pixels were more round-ish on tube monitors :) 19:40:21 <NGC3982> :-P 19:40:33 <frosch123> what about ink and laser jets? 19:41:02 <Sturmi> doesnt everything roundish belong to apple? 19:41:10 <NGC3982> Why would rectangular shapes of matter be unrealistic? 19:42:13 * NGC3982 should not stretch it that far. 19:42:43 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: rectangles are not differentiable 19:43:11 <Eddi|zuHause> which makes them awfully un-physical 19:43:48 <NGC3982> It's mandatory in agpwptajapatgmm 19:43:52 <NGC3982> .. 19:44:57 <Eddi|zuHause> english only... 19:47:02 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:47:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:47:07 <NGC3982> Sorry, my mobile phone did not recognise chrystalisation. 19:47:35 <frosch123> :p 19:47:37 <NGC3982> Bah, IRC on Android sucks. 19:48:02 <peter1138> irc without a real keyboard sucks 19:48:21 <NGC3982> Specially in combination with a bumpy train and a lousy connection. 19:48:33 <NGC3982> True. 19:48:42 <NGC3982> Although I 19:49:15 <NGC3982> Ass. Bbl. 19:49:19 <Eddi|zuHause> need speech-to-text-interface 19:49:51 <Eddi|zuHause> (or brain-to-text-interface :)) 19:49:55 <frosch123> are you sure that one could handle chrystalisation ? :) 19:51:06 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i'm sure it'll already fail horribly trying to recognize english in foreign accents 19:52:08 <frosch123> are you sure? wouldn't it already cover a lot with england, wales, scottland, australia, us west, us east? 19:52:30 *** ntoskrnl11 [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:10 <Pinkbeast> + Glasgow 19:55:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:56:09 <frosch123> + amdy 19:56:12 <frosch123> + andy 19:59:36 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.105.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:03:41 <andythenorth> I already have brain-to-text interface 20:03:46 <andythenorth> I think nonsense, and it appears here 20:03:49 <andythenorth> works perfectly 20:05:20 <FLHerne> andythenorth: Is it called 'fingers'? :D 20:05:54 <frosch123> is there is a chance to file a patent on it? 20:05:59 <frosch123> *still 20:09:35 <Eddi|zuHause> patent fingers? 20:09:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure you can get that patented :) 20:14:20 <andythenorth> as far as I can tell it's just magic 20:15:07 <frosch123> darn, magic is likely already patented 20:17:16 <SpComb> This patent describes a neurological process for ... 20:18:47 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 20:53:12 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable105.141-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:53:16 <drac_boy> hi 20:55:49 *** chester_ [~chester@128-72-10-241.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:57:17 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:59:43 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.151] has joined #openttd 21:03:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:05:14 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:12:31 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:16 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-223-106-080.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:02 <NGC3982> There we are 21:27:15 <NGC3982> Seriosly, my fingers are not compatible with Irssi Connectbot. 21:27:36 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:28:11 <Bad_Brett> Good evening 21:29:22 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: Re: Rectangles. As far as i know, rectangles are mandatory in chrystalisation, and is a product of the golden ratio (hence, "the golden triangle"). 21:29:51 <NGC3982> But i guess it's un-natural enough to conjugate that rectangular pixels are un-natural. 21:30:26 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: that's not a rectangle, but four points that happen to have special distances 21:31:09 <NGC3982> Ok 21:31:13 <NGC3982> Ah 21:31:23 <NGC3982> I think i understand the difference, yes. 21:31:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i meant "rectangle" as in the area or the edges, not the corners 21:31:54 <NGC3982> I see. 21:32:33 <Eddi|zuHause> of course singular points are always differentiable in all directions that they have an expansion (i.e. none) :) 21:32:40 <NGC3982> You mean: The natural use of rectangles are simply four dots with straight lines, indipendent of each other? 21:32:48 <NGC3982> Since that seems very logical. 21:35:32 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: mathematically speaking, topological deformations of the 1-Sphere in a non-hilbert norm are probably "bad" 21:35:58 <NGC3982> Ok 21:36:03 * NGC3982 needs to google that. 21:36:06 <NGC3982> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QvlRhC9DWWo#! 21:36:10 <NGC3982> Here's a cat with a camera on it. 21:36:47 <Eddi|zuHause> that reminds me of "i need to focu... oh a butterfly" 21:38:52 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: a hilbert-space is a vector-space with a scalar product. a norm induces a scalar product if it satisfies the "parallelogram equation" 21:39:24 <Eddi|zuHause> ||a+b||^2+||a-b||^2 = 2||a||^2+2||b||^2 21:39:38 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:39:38 <NGC3982> Yes, i'm about to google that. 21:39:42 <NGC3982> Though, a follow up question. 21:40:01 <Eddi|zuHause> (in such spaces you can talk about orthogonality and stuff) 21:40:32 * NGC3982 holds the question and keeps reading. 21:41:27 <NGC3982> I wish i knew as much of mathematics as i do of astronomy. 21:41:41 <NGC3982> Since that formula did not tell me anything, at all. 21:41:45 <Eddi|zuHause> if you take the |R^2 as example, then the 1-Norm and the inf-Norm, which produce "squares" as 1-sphere, do not suffice this equation, but the 2-Norm (euclidean norm) does 21:41:56 * NGC3982 knows David Hilbert trough his hotel, though. 21:42:13 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: a+b and a-b are the diagonals of a parallelogram, a and b are the edges 21:42:33 <NGC3982> Ok 21:42:47 <Eddi|zuHause> so if you take the square over all 4 edges, it equals the square over the diagonals 21:43:43 <NGC3982> I'll complete the swedish wiki entry, and i'll come back to nag you with questions, since i found this very interesting. 21:44:00 <Eddi|zuHause> and the 1-sphere is the set of all points with distance < 1 to the origin 21:53:17 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 22:00:06 <Terkhen> good night 22:05:19 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:08:14 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 22:10:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A195F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:33 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 22:19:22 <frosch123> lol... some guy reported some win8 issues during the beta (may)... now i asked him back whether they still apply and he answered he is using linux now :p 22:19:36 <Bad_Brett> haha 22:21:44 <FLHerne> Win8 is the best release ever - for Linux lovers :D 22:23:43 <Bad_Brett> it's a close all though... 22:23:50 <Bad_Brett> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzFUcDKC64E 22:24:59 <Bad_Brett> *call 22:26:35 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: This Wiki made me sweat. 22:28:34 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 22:40:38 <Nat_aS> Bad_Brett: what about vista? 22:41:12 <Bad_Brett> hehe... yeah that's a good one as well 22:41:38 <Nat_aS> Any even numbered windows version is good for linux 22:41:40 <Nat_aS> :p 22:42:03 <Bad_Brett> though i personally didn't have that many problems with it, as soon as i deactivated all the stupid default settings 22:42:05 <Nat_aS> (2000 is not even numbered, because that's it's name not version number) 22:42:12 <Nat_aS> vista or 8? 22:42:14 <Bad_Brett> it was actually more stable than XP for me 22:42:20 <Nat_aS> hrm rly? 22:42:21 <Bad_Brett> vista 22:42:27 <Bad_Brett> yes 22:42:29 <Nat_aS> vista was fine if you had a good computer 22:42:51 <Nat_aS> if you look at it one way, vista is the reason everyone has 8gigs of ram now 22:43:00 <Nat_aS> (when you only need like, one to run 7 lol) 22:43:33 <Nat_aS> actualy, my netbook was running windows 7 just fine with 512 22:43:43 <Nat_aS> It was slow because of the processor though 22:43:49 <Nat_aS> I upgraded the ram to 1 gig 22:43:50 *** glx is now known as Guest302 22:43:50 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:43:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 22:43:53 <Nat_aS> and nothing changed 22:44:04 <Nat_aS> so windows has gotten really memory efficant since vista 22:44:10 <Bad_Brett> yeah 22:44:18 <Nat_aS> even though now people buy 8 gigs just because they can, and because they remember vista 22:45:06 <Bad_Brett> i didn't have any memory problems with vista (after i had deactivated hundreds of stupid default settings) :) 22:45:10 <Nat_aS> they think memory will make there computer go faster, but really the only thing that can make it go faster is the CPU and the HDD 22:45:16 <Nat_aS> everything else is a bottleneck 22:45:32 <frosch123> the hdd is not the bottleneck when compiling ottd 22:45:35 <Nat_aS> but once you open the bottleneck, it's up to the CPU to actualy make things go fast 22:45:39 <Nat_aS> lol 22:45:46 <Nat_aS> well when people say "My computer is slow" 22:45:48 <Nat_aS> these days 22:45:54 <drac_boy> I only did xppro from ms for some time .. but now finally can't be bothered with ms anymore .. if anyone asked me for a pc as usual they only have the choice of linux alone 22:45:54 <Nat_aS> it's because they need an SSD 22:45:57 <drac_boy> but then mm 22:45:59 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:46:06 <Nat_aS> or at least a HDD with more than 5000rpm 22:46:15 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:46:15 <Bad_Brett> it depends 22:46:18 <Nat_aS> people just buy big HDDs, instead of fast ones 22:46:24 <Nat_aS> processors are rediclious now 22:46:32 <Nat_aS> unless you want a whimpy netbook one 22:47:08 <Bad_Brett> if you create a lot of 3d graphics/music the ram is actually the bottleneck in many cases 22:47:34 <Bad_Brett> the memory usage goes up to 100% and then the computer crashes :P 22:47:55 <frosch123> the ram is also not the bottleneck when compiling ottd 22:48:13 <frosch123> you guys just do wrong things with your computer 22:48:32 <Bad_Brett> no no 22:48:32 <Nat_aS> yes, but most users don't do that 22:48:40 <frosch123> but they should 22:48:45 <frosch123> the world would be a better place 22:48:48 <Nat_aS> unless you are an artist, you don't need more than 2 gigs 22:48:55 <Nat_aS> lots of people think they are artists though 22:49:02 <Nat_aS> and spend tons of money on memory 22:49:13 <frosch123> i have 2 gig per core, is that ok as non-artist? 22:49:14 <drac_boy> mind you one of the build I'm working on now has a pny quadro card in it only because of wanting some good opengl support .. which the intel gma seem to be a bit short on 22:49:19 <frosch123> or am i an artist? 22:49:37 <FLHerne> Nat_aS: I'm not an artist, and push myself out of 4GB and into swap all too easily :-( 22:49:38 <Bad_Brett> try rendering a higly detailed picture in 3ds max with advanced ray-tracing with 2 gb ram 22:49:54 <Nat_aS> yeah, you need 8 gigs if you are an artist 22:49:55 <Bad_Brett> it will most likely crash 22:49:58 *** Guest302 [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:49:59 <frosch123> drac_boy: i also have a quadro, does that make me an artist? 22:50:02 <FLHerne> Bad_Brett: That probably does count as 'artist' :P 22:50:14 <Bad_Brett> yeah i guess :) 22:50:26 <Nat_aS> if you are a regular user, get what the manufacturer lists as default 22:51:16 <drac_boy> frosch123 opengl is more than just artists :p 22:51:43 <frosch123> i only get it because the consumer products all annoyed me with there non-descripive specs 22:51:57 <frosch123> so i went for cheap professional product, as it just said what it does 22:52:16 <drac_boy> frosch123 so what kind of setup do you have? 22:52:26 <frosch123> i just wanted something which could run two digital screens at their full resolution 22:52:42 <frosch123> 1920x1050, and i just could not figure that out for regular cards :p 22:52:55 <drac_boy> heh no I meant the computer itself ;) 22:53:12 <frosch123> while the catalogue for the "professional" products just listing everything i might want to know 22:53:54 <frosch123> drac_boy: 2.5 years old, i5 quadcore 22:54:31 <drac_boy> mm lga775 QC series cpu I'm guessing? 22:54:32 <frosch123> sdd for /usr, hdd for the rest, 2gb per core, ramdisk for ottd objects 22:55:54 <frosch123> is there some way to figure that out via software? 22:56:21 <Nat_aS> whanna know another platau 22:56:24 <Nat_aS> Graphics cards 22:56:28 <drac_boy> well you said you're running linux right frosch123? 22:56:33 <frosch123> yes 22:56:34 <Nat_aS> video game graphics haven't been progressing 22:56:47 <Nat_aS> because consoles are overdue for a generation upgrade 22:56:47 <frosch123> lspci and proc/cpuinfo do not show something like that 22:57:08 <frosch123> "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz" <- unless that 750 says something 22:57:14 <Nat_aS> and developers don't want to make PC games with drasticly better graphics than there console ports 22:57:30 <Nat_aS> so game graphics haven't changed much since 06 22:57:49 <Nat_aS> so GPUs haven't needed to be upgraded either 22:57:59 <drac_boy> frosch123 hmm well either way not too bad 22:58:11 <drac_boy> I'm working on something thats going to have i3 3220T paired with pny quadro card 22:58:38 <frosch123> pm's 2 year newer computer was 20% faster with compiling ottd iirc 22:59:45 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd0e9.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:59 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:01:36 * drac_boy pokes flygon 23:20:25 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:55 <Wolf01> 'night 23:21:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:26:15 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 23:28:01 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:28:35 *** Bad_Brett2 [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 23:32:50 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:34:40 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:47:27 <Mister_Argent> Argh. only three refineries on the map are clear across the map from my Oilfield/machine shop... 23:56:46 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:00 <MNIM> argh? 23:57:04 <MNIM> you mean WOOOO 23:57:12 <MNIM> 'cus that means payday! 23:57:50 *** Bad_Brett2 [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]