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CornishPasty, kais58, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 10:37:15 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:37:33 *** Netsplit over, joins: doki_pen, kais58 10:37:47 *** Netsplit over, joins: Yexo, ^Spike^, Stimrol 10:38:17 *** Netsplit over, joins: avdg 10:38:17 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 10:38:24 *** Netsplit over, joins: lobster, Tvel, heffer 10:38:35 *** Netsplit over, joins: xQR 10:39:32 *** Netsplit over, joins: OwenS 10:40:41 <Pikka> shh 10:40:55 *** Netsplit over, joins: neli 10:40:55 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> larich.oftc.net quits: Flygon, George|2, Rhamphoryncus_, dihedral, EyeMWing, KenjiE20|SSH, KouDy, St3f 10:41:09 *** Netsplit over, joins: Flygon, EyeMWing 10:41:16 *** Netsplit over, joins: dihedral 10:41:17 <andythenorth> it's a flash mob 10:41:25 *** Netsplit over, joins: KouDy 10:41:26 <Pikka> not that flash, tbh 10:41:33 *** Netsplit over, joins: Rhamphoryncus_ 10:41:38 *** 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[~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 11:05:11 <peter1138> think that'd end up drawing too many sprites though 11:06:07 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@524B53F1.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:06:09 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:15:27 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:24:33 <Pikka> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5457 11:24:42 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-108-17-113-33.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 11:26:58 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-108-17-113-33.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 11:27:57 <peter1138> eh 11:28:50 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 11:30:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:30:33 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 11:33:18 *** jonty-co1p is now known as jonty-comp 11:33:38 <peter1138> there's no special code for that, it's all shared 11:34:10 <Pikka> doesn't change the fact that it doesn't work :) 11:36:48 <peter1138> do you have other vehicles loaded? 11:36:51 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:36:58 <Pikka> nope 11:36:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:37:04 <peter1138> engine aging stops at 2050 11:37:13 <andythenorth> lol 11:37:13 <peter1138> until other vehicles are introduced after that date 11:37:23 <Pikka> I see 11:37:25 *** SoulOfTheInternet is now known as ToBeFree 11:37:32 <Pikka> other vehicles of the same type? 11:37:39 <Pikka> or any other vehicles? 11:37:50 <andythenorth> unlol, that's a good feature 11:37:53 <Pikka> yes 11:37:56 <peter1138> any other vehicles 11:37:56 * andythenorth should think before typing 11:38:17 <Pikka> it should probably be documented in the newgrf spec and/or removed as a terrible idea 11:38:36 <peter1138> it's related to having very long games 11:38:47 <peter1138> if it didn't stop you'd have no engines come the year 2500 11:38:59 <Pikka> only if you're using the default vehicles 11:39:36 <Pikka> but anyway, problem solved :) thankyou 11:45:50 *** Netsplit larich.oftc.net <-> synthon.oftc.net quits: Arendtse1, Sacro, FireFly, luckz, @DorpsGek, Fuco, Pensacola, Pikka, szaman, Vadtec, (+90 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 11:47:17 *** Netsplit over, joins: mikegrb, namad7, Flygon, ivan`, Ttech, snorre, Cybert1nus, bb10X, FireFly, HerzogDeXtEr (+90 more) 11:47:23 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:47:37 *** Cybert1nus is now known as Cybertinus 11:47:50 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 11:47:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v planetmaker] by ChanServ 11:47:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 11:47:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v SmatZ] by ChanServ 11:47:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 11:47:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 11:53:32 *** Maedhros_ is now known as Maedhros 11:55:59 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:57:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v peter1138] by ChanServ 12:00:22 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:23:07 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-12-222.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:10:13 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:14:40 <Celestar> burp 13:18:09 <Flygon> I find that offensive! 13:22:06 <oskari89> http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/01/racings-the-last-golden-era-the-1980s/ Anyone intrested? 13:25:56 *** CornishPasty [uid158@id-158.hillingdon.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 13:29:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C05F.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:36:25 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 13:41:10 *** TheMask96- [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:41:47 *** Arendtse1 is now known as Arendtsen 13:42:20 *** 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Again 16:31:15 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:31:16 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has joined #openttd 16:37:58 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:56 <peter1138> :) 16:44:59 *** LSky` [~x@5ED5A444.cm-7-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 16:47:49 <andythenorth> someone unplugged the coffee machine in the office 16:47:55 <andythenorth> to plug in the george foreman 16:48:53 <peter1138> sacrilege 16:54:30 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:54:32 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 16:57:58 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:00:47 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@0001707a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:01:11 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@0001707a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:03:28 <peter1138> herpderp 17:06:35 *** lugo [lugo@000189e6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:07:08 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has joined #openttd 17:08:23 *** Warod [warod@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:08:25 *** Warod [warod@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 17:08:59 *** blathijs [matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:09:00 *** blathijs [matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 17:12:24 <supermop> apple has my air 17:12:30 <supermop> waiting for new ssd 17:12:36 <andythenorth> stupid apples 17:12:44 <andythenorth> and their stupid ssds 17:12:47 <andythenorth> I hate them 17:12:59 <peter1138> i almost got an ssd 17:13:09 <andythenorth> treatable 17:13:13 <andythenorth> I have an ssd 17:13:17 <peter1138> faster innit 17:13:28 <andythenorth> much 17:13:36 <andythenorth> also mean time to failure is ~6 months 17:13:41 <andythenorth> according to someone on the internet 17:13:51 <andythenorth> their job is to fix laptops 17:13:55 <peter1138> depends how you use it 17:14:03 <peter1138> i would only've put the os on it 17:14:04 <peter1138> no data 17:14:05 <andythenorth> and recently they have had to fix a lot of ssds 17:14:12 <supermop> my vaio's ssd is 3 years old 17:14:12 <andythenorth> so they concluded that ssds break a lot 17:14:30 <peter1138> i deduced that people hate large maps 17:14:36 <peter1138> so i might restart a smaller a game 17:14:48 <andythenorth> or people have jobs :P 17:14:52 <peter1138> nah! 17:14:58 <peter1138> inconceivable 17:15:15 <Eddi|zuHause> who gets such stupid ideas? :P 17:15:15 <peter1138> also maybe CC fences 17:15:18 <peter1138> hmm 17:15:24 * andythenorth has jobs 17:16:46 <peter1138> hmm, chips disables poles? 17:16:51 <peter1138> or poles aren't in stations? 17:16:59 <peter1138> catenary poles 17:17:07 <andythenorth> erm 17:17:12 <andythenorth> sure that got fixed 17:17:18 <andythenorth> I have some recollection of a bug about it 17:17:49 <Eddi|zuHause> flying catenary... makes things much easier 17:17:53 <peter1138> i've got a line wire suspended in air 17:17:56 <peter1138> gravity loses 17:18:13 <Eddi|zuHause> funnily, without gravity, it wouldn't be a catenary := 17:18:15 <Eddi|zuHause> :) 17:18:22 <andythenorth> hmm 17:18:25 <andythenorth> only this http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2543 17:18:29 <andythenorth> nothing about poles 17:18:54 <Eddi|zuHause> there are separate flags for drawing the catenary and drawing the poles, i think 17:19:01 <peter1138> yes 17:19:10 <peter1138> but you set them to disable drawing, iirc 17:19:10 <andythenorth> raise a bug 17:19:41 <andythenorth> moi? 17:19:49 <peter1138> no as a flag 17:20:00 <peter1138> if it's not set then it'll draw everything 17:20:00 <peter1138> i think 17:23:42 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-032-202.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:07 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:38 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:33:05 <peter1138> mmm pixels 17:33:33 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:33:39 <peter1138> so that rail flag that makes railtype authors draw 63 sprites...? 17:36:53 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f78ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:37:55 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: plus a 40+ variable that gives you x%2 + y%2 << 1 so you can vary the 3rd rail for left/right side and stuff 17:38:12 <Eddi|zuHause> same way as catenary 17:38:24 <peter1138> eh? 17:38:42 <peter1138> hmm 17:38:42 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:39:10 <peter1138> yet again 17:39:25 <Terkhen> hello 17:39:27 <peter1138> some other random suggestion 17:40:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm just saying this would be a use-case 17:43:38 <peter1138> that's like 17:44:00 <peter1138> "oh hey, let's have cargo dest" "plus infrastructure sharing" 17:44:08 <peter1138> yeah, graet, but 2 separate things 17:46:44 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:47:06 <frosch123> at least he did not say "daylength" 17:47:27 <andythenorth> diagonal stations 17:47:35 <peter1138> andythenorth, got a patch for that 17:47:39 <andythenorth> and some way to show the terrain tile 17:48:00 <andythenorth> and non-track-tile-stations-have-road-bits 17:48:51 <andythenorth> hmm 17:48:56 <andythenorth> no I have nothing else :P 17:53:10 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 17:59:17 *** gladk [~anton@drsd-4d05ec56.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:59:53 *** gladk [~anton@drsd-4d05ec56.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #openttd [] 18:00:14 <peter1138> make -j 98 == bad 18:00:34 <glx> not if you have enough cores :) 18:00:43 <peter1138> not quite :) 18:00:53 <peter1138> i used to have problems compiling ardour 18:01:01 <peter1138> waf defaulted to -j 4 18:01:21 <peter1138> but at some point in the compilation the gcc process took 1GB+ ram 18:01:31 <peter1138> i "only" had 2GB ram... 18:01:53 <glx> so heavy swaping 18:01:53 <andythenorth> hmm 18:01:54 <peter1138> pikka, make a test grf! 18:02:03 <andythenorth> how many cores is needed for -j 98 to be good? 18:02:35 <peter1138> 48 should be sufficient 18:02:35 <glx> a lot :) 18:02:45 <peter1138> but you need a bit of ram too 18:02:56 <andythenorth> I think 32 would be ok 18:03:02 <andythenorth> 32 cores are available 18:04:01 <peter1138> andythenorth, 64 cortes 18:04:03 <peter1138> *cores 18:04:12 <andythenorth> ,500 http://www.titanuscomputers.com/Quad-AMD-Opteron-up-to-64-Cores-HPC-Workstation-Computer-s/26.htm 18:04:17 <peter1138> AMD Opteron 6276 sixteen-core 2.3GHz cpu 18:04:23 <peter1138> in a quad cpu box 18:04:43 <andythenorth> hmm 18:04:53 <andythenorth> more like ,000 to spec 18:04:54 <peter1138> probably the "mere" eight-core 3GHz cpus would be better though 18:05:11 <andythenorth> that stuff won't fit in my laptop either 18:05:19 <peter1138> £6000 for 64 cores 18:05:22 <andythenorth> how do these big towers fit on your lap? 18:05:23 <peter1138> (inc vat) 18:05:30 <peter1138> that's just a 2U machine 18:05:33 <andythenorth> peter1138: let's get two 18:05:39 <andythenorth> still cheaper than a mac 18:05:40 <Eddi|zuHause> http://news.cnet.com/2300-17938_105-10015602.html 18:05:45 <peter1138> ah but it'll need more ram 18:05:56 <peter1138> probably ... 1TB ram? 18:06:02 <andythenorth> 512Gb should do 18:06:05 <peter1138> hmm, that brings it up to £34000 18:06:18 <peter1138> oh, 512 is more reasonable. £14000 18:06:18 <Eddi|zuHause> 640k ought to be enough for everybody!! 18:06:28 <andythenorth> 256GB should do 18:06:33 <peter1138> but you probably need fast disks to keep up 18:06:41 <andythenorth> I use -j13 with 4 cores / 16GB 18:06:47 <andythenorth> I'm just multiplying out 18:07:01 <peter1138> more disks == more platters == faster == another few grand 18:07:08 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: unrelated but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_fort 18:07:13 <andythenorth> peter1138: you'd want SSDs buffering 18:07:22 <andythenorth> but then writing to spinning glass 18:09:03 <andythenorth> did pikka reply btw? 18:10:50 <peter1138> no 18:10:53 <peter1138> unsurprisingly 18:16:58 <andythenorth> I'm shocked 18:21:38 <Belugas> ADN HD 18:21:46 <Belugas> when they'll be sold... 18:21:58 <Belugas> or DNA for english speakers.. 18:41:51 <Eddi|zuHause> real people call it DNS 18:43:37 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 18:45:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24949 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2013-01-30 18:45:16 UTC) 18:45:23 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:24 <DorpsGek> german - 1 changes by lugo 18:45:25 <DorpsGek> japanese - 117 changes by Aknuth 18:45:26 <DorpsGek> korean - 1 changes by telk5093 18:57:02 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 19:05:25 <andythenorth> lol 19:05:30 <andythenorth> 'download all' 19:05:33 <andythenorth> and why not eh? 19:05:37 <andythenorth> hmm 19:05:52 <Supercheese> Startup times would be enormous 19:05:57 <Supercheese> Scanning 9,001 grfs... 19:05:59 <andythenorth> maybe the newgrf config panel should be live from bananas 19:06:09 <andythenorth> and you can choose grfs, then they're downloaded 19:06:12 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-032-202.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 19:06:15 <andythenorth> or that could be crap 19:06:24 <andythenorth> personally 19:06:32 <andythenorth> I think iTunes should have a 'buy all' button 19:06:36 <andythenorth> just in case 19:06:45 <Supercheese> I just went and cleaned out unused/outdated grfs to hopefully help startup times 19:07:15 <peter1138> me too 19:07:25 <peter1138> screw faffing around trying to cache it 19:09:11 <Supercheese> Seems I'll have to set the intro date for the Wright Flyer a bit early, else the OTTD randomization might push it off to 1905 19:09:28 <Supercheese> Realism be damned, eh 19:11:23 * Rubidium_ would be interested to know the name, GRF ID and MD5 checksum of the remaining (at least) 6321 GRFs Supercheese has more than the master server knows about 19:11:44 * Supercheese was being silly 19:11:51 *** Rubidium_ is now known as Rubidium 19:12:27 <peter1138> Rubidium, surely his computer will have uploaded them to bananas 19:12:44 <andythenorth> screw roadtypes, drive anywhere http://greenfinity.hu/en 19:12:48 <andythenorth> oops 19:12:51 <andythenorth> wrong link :m 19:12:55 <andythenorth> http://www.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/big-mongolian-movers-on-biglorryblog...on-to-ulan-bator-with-an-fh16-volvo#.UQlwnkLA4-0 19:13:31 <andythenorth> road bits on every tile 19:13:35 <andythenorth> even water 19:14:40 *** Noldo_ is now known as Noldo 19:15:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host204-174-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:15:12 <Wolf01> hi o/ 19:20:02 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:21:10 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip2.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 19:25:50 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-102-146.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:31:15 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:43:34 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:43:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 19:45:35 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:47:34 <Alberth> wiep 19:47:47 <peter1138> hmm? 19:52:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:59 <Wolf01> hello Alberth 20:01:19 <Alberth> hello :) 20:10:20 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 20:17:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6C05F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:20:19 <peter1138> damn, so much bitstuffing with conditional orders 20:20:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C05F.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:28 <peter1138> i know the gui->command needs to bitstuff 20:20:33 <peter1138> but really 20:22:14 <frosch123> maybe encode commands into xml :p 20:22:22 *** lobster [~lobster@glosoli.owenrudge.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:22:23 *** lobster [~lobster@glosoli.owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 20:22:56 <Eddi|zuHause> and have javascript decode it on the other end? :p 20:23:11 <Alberth> and then compress it to reduce space 20:24:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6C05F.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:24:28 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B44C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:30:27 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:30:28 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 20:32:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B44C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:13 <peter1138> nothing wrong with the commands 20:33:16 <peter1138> but... order_base.h? 20:33:56 <peter1138> bearing in mind what frosch123 said about my service interval patch :p 20:34:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B44C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:34:32 <frosch123> ah, you want to turn Order into a baseclass and make the various order types derived classes? :) 20:34:38 <frosch123> sounds like a plan :p 20:34:43 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.180.52] has joined #openttd 20:34:43 <peter1138> not order types 20:34:54 <peter1138> but conditions, at least 20:34:59 <peter1138> but it's a mess 20:35:08 <Rubidium> thank you ;) 20:35:08 <peter1138> stuffed into a fake order 20:35:12 <peter1138> i suppose it saves space :) 20:35:20 <peter1138> but i got told off for that :p 20:35:45 <peter1138> not exactly heh 20:36:30 <Rubidium> I guess it has to do with saving every order in the same size chunk or so (and sending it over the network within a small enough size for restoring orders) 20:36:54 <peter1138> yeah, but that's the commands 20:37:31 <peter1138> http://git.fuzzle.org/openttd.git/log/?h=servint 20:37:48 <peter1138> ^ latest commit on there is... not nice imho :p 20:38:07 <peter1138> of course i could used a new var instead of vehicle_flags 20:38:14 <peter1138> *could have 20:41:32 <Rubidium> I don't have a big problem with adding it there 20:41:48 <peter1138> to vehicle_flags? 20:41:55 <Rubidium> yeah 20:42:17 <peter1138> without that patch it's stored as part of the 32bit service_interval 20:42:48 <Rubidium> hmm... guess I should read the whole thing first 20:42:52 <peter1138> hmm 20:42:58 <peter1138> in fact i missed a place 20:43:06 <peter1138> ah no 20:44:52 <peter1138> and then also... http://git.fuzzle.org/openttd.git/log/?h=rgb rgb company colours for no particular reason 20:46:31 <peter1138> anyway i'd like to do restrictions without reinventing the order restrictions code 20:46:49 <peter1138> but i don't think i can because it's packed tightly into the order class 20:47:10 <peter1138> errr, order conditions code 20:47:44 <Rubidium> so orders still need packing/unpacking? If that's not the case anymore, you could maybe refactor it 20:49:21 <peter1138> conditional orders are packed in memory 20:49:51 <peter1138> probably seemed a good idea :) 20:50:09 <Rubidium> I know, but is pack/unpack still used? If pack isn't used anymore, then you are basically free to refactor the class 20:50:38 <Rubidium> otherwise you'd have to write a lot of complicated code in Pack/Unpack to 'undo' the refactoring for sending it over in a command 20:50:42 <peter1138> yes, pack/unpack is still used 20:52:17 <Rubidium> that sucks 20:53:17 <peter1138> meh, i think i shuold leave it alone 20:53:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.180.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:57:20 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57:36 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 20:58:18 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:01:10 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:01:11 <Wolf01> 'night 21:01:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:05:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.180.52] has joined #openttd 21:09:22 <peter1138> hm 21:16:29 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-135-147.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:21:21 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:21:32 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:22:51 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30:01 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:30:07 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 21:36:14 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:37:12 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:42:02 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 21:42:05 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 21:50:05 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:53:31 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:53:55 <__ln__> curious, polish is the second most spoken language in england and wales. 21:54:21 <frosch123> not welsh? 21:55:54 <__ln__> good question, this new article doesn't mention welsh at all. 21:56:08 <Alberth> good night 21:56:52 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:15:56 <Terkhen> good night 22:16:26 <__ln__> *news article, even 22:17:19 *** goodger [~ben@host81-154-150-255.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:19:18 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 22:21:45 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD4FA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:26:04 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4FA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B44C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29:00 *** goodger [~ben@host81-154-150-255.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: goodger] 22:30:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B44C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:31:11 *** goodger [~ben@host81-154-150-255.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:34:06 *** mrdaft [~mrdaft@75.114.201.249] has joined #openttd 22:40:27 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:40:40 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 22:47:45 <Supercheese> Too bad ships can't carry multiple cargo types at once 22:48:01 <Supercheese> that'd be really hacky anyway 22:48:11 *** mrdaft [~mrdaft@75.114.201.249] has quit [Quit: -] 22:48:18 <peter1138> why would it be hacky? 22:48:27 <Supercheese> same way planes are hacky 22:48:29 <Supercheese> "shadow" carrying cargo? 22:48:42 <Supercheese> IIRC anyway, perhaps that was changed 22:48:57 <peter1138> nah 22:48:59 <peter1138> it's ingenious 22:49:09 <Supercheese> ships hath not shadows anyway 22:49:24 <peter1138> invisible parts :p 22:49:30 <Supercheese> articulated ships eh 22:49:34 <frosch123> Supercheese: when we discussed container ships, we considered ignoring the cargo type of the ship, and just load different cargo packets into it 22:49:44 <frosch123> so you do not need multiple parts 22:50:01 <Supercheese> yes, that would be rather different 22:50:13 <frosch123> you can just store the cargotype in the cargopacket, and not bother about the vehicle 22:50:18 <peter1138> then you notice that cargo packets don't store the type ;) 22:50:31 <Supercheese> minor details :P 22:50:32 <peter1138> capacities would be interesting 22:50:40 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:51:00 <Supercheese> capacities for non-pax, non-goods [,non-mail?] are already unified, no? 22:51:13 <Supercheese> same values, just some multiplied by 1,000 22:51:14 <frosch123> there is that capacity muliplier thingie 22:51:16 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:21 <Supercheese> and that 22:52:16 <frosch123> anyway, night 22:52:18 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f78ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:37 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:08:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B44C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12:36 <Supercheese> Forest->Sawmill->Furniture Factory -- autorefit to Wood, to Lumber, to Goods, profit on every leg of the trip, like a boss 23:39:02 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:40:06 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:57:38 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59:13 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd