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08:15:30 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1064441#p1064441 08:15:45 <andythenorth> sounds like a FIRS bug to me 08:16:28 <Supercheese> Hmm, I should have played Arctic basic instead of temperate basic :S 08:17:47 <andythenorth> :P 08:17:59 <andythenorth> is temperate basic any good? 08:18:06 <andythenorth> haven't tried it 08:18:11 <Supercheese> Yes, only complaint I have is lack of the Iron Works 08:18:19 <Supercheese> would be nice for early-starts, IMO 08:20:24 <andythenorth> make the steel mill available from 0 instead? 08:20:40 <Supercheese> that would work, yes 08:20:49 <andythenorth> k 08:21:32 <Supercheese> Coal and Iron ore have nowhere to go otherwise 08:21:47 <Supercheese> as I think you mentioned earlier 08:22:06 <andythenorth> yup 08:22:28 <Supercheese> Damascus steel mills :P 08:22:44 *** mkv` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:24:17 <Supercheese> Sheesh, my steel mill here is way overproducing metal, I need more platforms 08:24:43 <Supercheese> well, and a less Spaghetti network, but meh 08:24:51 <andythenorth> ships 08:24:53 <andythenorth> infinite capacity 08:24:55 <andythenorth> :P 08:24:58 <Supercheese> yeah, no water 08:25:11 <Supercheese> well, canals would be insane 08:25:22 <Supercheese> unless hmm, that FISH parameter 08:25:45 <Supercheese> I normally don't build canals because they're made of liquid money, but perhaps that parameter helps 08:26:52 <andythenorth> bbl 08:26:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@2002:4d66:7022:0:15ab:3be7:c7fe:e4f0] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:28:47 <Supercheese> Triple-layer junctions, tunnel under track under bridge :S 08:30:15 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:30:16 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 08:50:20 <Terkhen> good morning 09:10:05 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:10:10 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:10:25 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:16:32 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:18:56 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 09:26:12 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1910E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:37:13 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:37:59 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:38:00 <planetmaker> moin 09:41:56 <V453000> hi :) 09:48:02 *** Pokka [~Octomom@d58-106-12-222.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:59:25 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:01:57 <peter1138> i'm writing a ui for opengl from scratch 10:02:10 <peter1138> should i borrow from nested widgets? 10:06:51 <Maedhros> probably sensible, unless you want it to look/behave very differently? 10:08:48 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 10:12:02 <Maedhros> hmm. are there any industries that accept food with TaI industries, or should i have started the game with the houses as well? 10:12:07 <Maedhros> in the temperate climate, that is 10:12:42 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:12:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:13:55 <Eddi|zuHause> use a house grf? 10:14:47 <Eddi|zuHause> make a house grf adding food acceptance to the default temperate hauses? 10:15:22 <Eddi|zuHause> that is really simple to do, actually :) 10:15:44 <Maedhros> yeah, that would work for a new game. i was hoping i wouldn't have to restart the one i'm already playing though :p 10:16:22 * Maedhros adds a house grf to the game anyway and hopes nothing goes too wrong 10:18:04 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-48-246.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:18:33 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:18:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 10:18:43 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:19:34 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:19:59 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:26:27 <Eddi|zuHause> "in theory" you can freely add house GRFs, only the new houses will not appear immediately, just gradually when the town places them 10:28:41 <Eddi|zuHause> these look like mÀrklin tracks... http://www.ssdw.de/AK/S16-u.jpg http://www.ssdw.de/AK/S66-u.jpg 10:32:36 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.94.140] has joined #openttd 10:38:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host204-174-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:38:32 <Wolf01> moin 10:41:57 <Alberth> moin Wolf01 10:46:20 <planetmaker> Pokka, as discussed, ogfx+airports now implements av8's maintenance parameter, if av8 v2.20 or newer is found. That includes introduction dates as you mentioned 10:48:15 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe configurable introduction dates are worth a parameter (for each airport specifying a year, or so?) 10:48:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i always thought the "useful" aifports come way too late 10:48:46 <planetmaker> maybe. We currently have a switch like "disable introduction years". i.e. making them all available every time 10:49:42 <Eddi|zuHause> it's fine to only have "small" airports in the early game, but all the large airports should be available in the 1950's/60's 10:49:53 <Eddi|zuHause> IMHO 10:50:14 <heffer> the jet era :) 10:50:48 <planetmaker> you might be right, Eddi|zuHause :-) 10:50:54 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-75-206.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:53:06 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00:01 <Alberth> peter1138: if you think of getting insprited by the nested widgets, you may want to also look at the widgets in FreeRCT, they are less cluttered with historic assets 11:00:18 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00:19 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:12:46 <Pokka> thanks planetmaker 11:13:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f765c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:14:20 <V453000> can rails have company colours? 11:14:29 <V453000> like some part of the rail sprites themselves? 11:15:45 * planetmaker ponders making a release of ogfx+airports... and whether to call it 0.4.0 or 1.0.0 :D 11:19:25 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: currently not, afair. only the fences are recoloured 11:19:42 <V453000> =( 11:19:48 <V453000> well I will think of something :) 11:19:54 *** Zeknurn is now known as zeknurn 11:21:37 <Eddi|zuHause> sometimes i think NOTHING that i want to put into a rail grf is actually possible :p 11:22:14 <Eddi|zuHause> like, i want to put hectometer stones every 2nd tile... 11:22:33 <planetmaker> :-) 11:22:46 <planetmaker> then stations are *very* close to eachother ;-) 11:22:56 <Eddi|zuHause> (and colour-code them for the railtype) 11:24:28 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: well, it's hard to balance length of the wagons and distance of catenary pylons with station distance :p 11:24:53 <planetmaker> :-) 11:25:11 <Eddi|zuHause> also, if the distance is larger than 2 tiles, you can have "creative" track placement so you avoid having them placed at all 11:25:47 <peter1138> Alberth, ok 11:27:20 <Eddi|zuHause> a propos colour coding: if i put colour codes into the railtype name, i'd presume that interferes with greying out if not available? 11:27:35 <peter1138> yes 11:27:55 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe the greying out part should skip all further colour codes in the string? 11:37:28 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:41:03 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:41:54 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:45:27 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-75-206.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:46:11 <frosch123> Hmm, what should I do with my 666th post on the forums? 11:46:23 <frosch123> Should it visit the off-topic for once? :s 11:47:48 <planetmaker> :D 11:49:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24954 trunk/media/extra_grf/openttdgui.nfo (2013-02-02 11:49:08 UTC) 11:49:16 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: OPENTTD_SPRITE_COUNT uses decimal, so use decimal in the nfo as well. 12:07:52 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:07:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:21:57 <Rubidium> that's an interesting commit ;) 12:22:38 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:23:24 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:24:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.187.171] has joined #openttd 12:30:56 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:47 <Maedhros> woah, it's been nearly four years since i last posted on the forums 12:38:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:38:28 <Alberth> hi andy 12:38:50 <andythenorth> lo 12:38:52 <Alberth> Maedhros: forums have moved a bit, but nothing much else, I think :) 12:40:10 <V453000> andythenorth: the port bug with not processing petrol (not even being paid for it, but accepting it) is known, right? 12:40:28 <andythenorth> yes 12:40:32 <andythenorth> I found it last night :) 12:40:51 <andythenorth> V453000: can you fix it? o_O 12:41:03 <V453000> how would I do that? :d 12:41:16 <V453000> I have no clue what so ever about FIRS code 12:41:22 <Alberth> by magic 12:46:17 <andythenorth> I'll have to do it then 12:46:21 <andythenorth> [shrug] 12:46:24 <andythenorth> can't get the staff 12:46:40 <Alberth> you don't pay enough, perhaps :p 12:47:22 <V453000> im drawing water tiles atm x.x 12:48:16 <V453000> havent done anything so wtf yet 12:50:57 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0c2ea0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:21 <andythenorth> water sucks to draw 12:51:27 * andythenorth has done it 12:52:16 <V453000> I observed your hacky solution dont worry :) 12:52:28 <V453000> works nicely though 12:52:30 <andythenorth> what was that? 12:52:46 <V453000> static blue for the most part, with animated dots 12:52:52 <andythenorth> yeah 12:52:54 <V453000> well the light_blue more like 12:53:07 <andythenorth> the sand pit looks silly with too many waves 12:53:13 <andythenorth> I tried 12:53:19 <V453000> I am trying more of the animated colours but they are HELL, especially as some look the same in the image but are different animation stages 12:53:28 <andythenorth> V453000: just petrol, or did you try other cargos at the port? 12:53:33 <V453000> I know, the sand pits work great 12:53:39 <andythenorth> also, there are two water cycles - you know that right? 12:53:41 <V453000> I think it is just petrol but I am not sure 12:53:44 <V453000> yeah I do 12:53:47 <andythenorth> :) 12:54:07 <V453000> the second one seems to have only 4 colours but it is a full cycle, I am confused about that 12:54:35 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24955 trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp (2013-02-02 12:54:29 UTC) 12:54:36 <DorpsGek> -Change (r24808) [FS#4458]: Revert to opening the vehicle GUI again when cloning vehicles using the clone-button from the depot GUI. This button cannot be used for sequential cloning, so the argument about opening many windows does not hold as it does for the clone button from the vehicle GUI. 12:59:02 <V453000> ok I think I am getting to a somewhat satisfactory result 12:59:05 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:01:18 <andythenorth> V453000: the samll cycle is just waves afaik 13:01:22 <andythenorth> samll / small 13:01:26 <andythenorth> but I can't remember 13:01:33 <V453000> yeah, just a few darker colours 13:01:33 <andythenorth> maybe it cycles through more colours :P 13:01:48 <V453000> then there is the other one which reaches the very bright colours 13:10:46 <frosch123> hmm, i feel like i wrote enough on the forums for this year 13:12:32 <peter1138> bright colours? 13:13:20 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/recolour3.png < like that? 13:14:01 <Rubidium> that's quite bright for dark green ;) 13:14:42 * Maedhros looks for his sunglasses 13:16:00 <andythenorth> it's lovely 13:16:07 <andythenorth> frosch123: maybe close your account? o_O 13:19:51 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:20:00 <Pokka> oh look, scuddles is crashing trains again 13:21:41 <andythenorth> scuddler 13:21:48 * andythenorth is fixing broken grfs 13:21:55 <andythenorth> is someone playing TTD? 13:25:20 <Pokka> yes, someone 13:27:34 <peter1138> you're a nut 13:27:37 <peter1138> you're crazy in the coconut 13:30:24 <andythenorth> silly lego castle fans 13:30:33 <andythenorth> "omfg this new castle theme is so childish" 13:30:36 <andythenorth> fuckheads 13:31:42 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a toy dumbheads. it's meant do be childish 13:31:55 <andythenorth> the funny thing is 13:32:01 <andythenorth> their attitude is so childish 13:32:12 <andythenorth> 20-something and 30-something men whining about their plastic toys 13:32:31 * andythenorth fixes the FIRS port 13:32:35 <andythenorth> this port needs latency 13:32:43 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:33:31 <andythenorth> it instantly increases imports as soon as you export stuff 13:33:32 <Eddi|zuHause> simcity4 is dumb, i think... these people are apparently not using the builtin subway stop, but take the bus to the next stop... www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Inselstadt-3 Aug.,%20791359811535.png 13:34:07 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Inselstadt-3%20Aug.,%20791359811535.png 13:38:48 <andythenorth> lines! 13:38:50 <andythenorth> routes! 13:38:51 <andythenorth> etc 13:40:50 <V453000> peter1138: yes, but not the bright which you mean, I mean the bright dots in water :) 13:43:48 <andythenorth> FIRS industries cost too much? 13:45:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't usually fund industries, i woudln't know 13:47:45 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-167-112.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 13:48:32 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:43 <V453000> andythenorth: for sure, I always overwrite that with basecosts in fact 13:55:18 <andythenorth> V453000: how much too expensive? 13:55:22 <andythenorth> 2x? 4x? 8x? 13:55:32 <V453000> much massively 13:55:48 <V453000> I would make it in similar scale as original is 13:56:33 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:56:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:56:55 <V453000> by the way, I am not sure if having port produce ES when nothing is delivered is a good idea 13:57:10 <V453000> screams "spam ports and get free ES" to me 13:57:18 <andythenorth> yes 13:57:24 <andythenorth> [shrug] 13:58:38 <andythenorth> port won't be in the main 'FIRS' economy 13:58:53 <Rubidium> andythenorth: does the port create the same things it accepts? 13:58:59 <andythenorth> no 13:59:15 <V453000> :D that would be something 13:59:32 <andythenorth> indirectly it will feed back into the chains for the cargos it accepts 14:00:08 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: ECS tourist centers :) 14:00:23 <Rubidium> well if it were to, it'd create an ever increasing stream of cargo: X in -> X out, so you can just move it between two ports 14:01:06 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-167-112.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:01:09 <Rubidium> and for every cargo that is inserted into that loop, you'll get eternal profits and the amount of goods moving between the two would grow quite rapid 14:01:17 <V453000> there is passengers for that ;) and seeing how desperate are some people to be told where to transport with yacd/cargod*st, I would not do that 14:01:21 *** Pokka [~Octomom@d58-106-12-222.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:04:40 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-120-75.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:09:32 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:10:07 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:12:42 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-120-75.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:19 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:14:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:18:17 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0c2ea0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:19:50 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-106-96.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:24:21 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:24:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 14:25:40 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:29:18 <andythenorth> what, no FIRS translation fixes? o_O 14:29:37 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-106-96.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:32:32 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:32:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:34:00 <Alberth> oh, you added new strings 14:34:12 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:34:54 <andythenorth> added / modified 14:37:58 <Alberth> I can fix dutch for you, but I forgot who else does firs translations 14:38:12 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-215-7.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:39:07 <frosch123> i guess the usual suspects :) tk and pm :) 14:39:27 <andythenorth> yup 14:40:50 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 14:40:58 <Alberth> Terkhen: planetmaker: firs translation please 14:42:40 <frosch123> Terkhen: planetmaker: sorry to blow your cover :) 14:42:41 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:06 <Alberth> :) 14:45:44 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:45:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:50:12 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-215-7.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:52:51 <peter1138> oh, hmm, i've not thought this through 14:53:08 <peter1138> widgets have handlers but there's no way to access the main window data :p 14:55:22 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-105-191.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:56:58 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:59:35 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:59:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 15:00:13 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:42 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-105-191.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:05:48 <Alberth> andythenorth: done 15:08:03 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:16:08 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:07 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:29:14 <Terkhen> I was going to update it before 0.9.1 but it was released before I had time, and now I see 0.9.2 already released :P 15:29:49 <Terkhen> are you planning another release soon? if not, I'd rather do all of them at once just before release 15:30:09 <frosch123> :p 15:30:41 <frosch123> are you sure you can translate them all within 30 minutes? 15:30:58 <frosch123> i doubt there has ever been longer between the decision to make a release and the release :p 15:31:12 <Terkhen> probably, as long as andy can wait those 30 minutes 15:31:18 <Terkhen> so... release now? I'll start translating 15:33:25 <Terkhen> the last language reports are from r3365, from the looks of the revision log it seems that no further changes were made since then (0.9.1) 15:33:29 <Terkhen> andythenorth^ 15:34:37 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36:40 <Alberth> Terkhen: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3371/translations/spanish.html 15:39:25 <Terkhen> thanks, I was checking nightlies; I wasn't aware of it running on every commit :P 15:41:51 <Alberth> neither was I until my curiousity won :) 15:48:20 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 15:48:35 <andythenorth> frosch123 sometimes I wait as long as 12 hours :O 15:49:42 <andythenorth> Terkhen: 0.9.2 was bug fixes only 15:49:54 <andythenorth> I'll release again for new bugs and / or translations ;) 15:52:08 <Terkhen> andythenorth: okay, I'll finish it soon 16:05:48 <Terkhen> andythenorth: the sugar refinery is missing the "Increases to 8t per 8t when both cargos are delivered within a month of each other." -> "Production steps up if both cargos are delivered within a month of each other." change 16:07:40 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:10:55 <Terkhen> andythenorth: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/raw/2086/ 16:11:10 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:11:29 <supermop> hi 16:12:14 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:12:27 <Terkhen> hi supermop 16:13:58 <supermop> hows it going? 16:14:09 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58 16:14:13 <andythenorth> Terkhen: good spot thanks 16:14:15 <andythenorth> fixing 16:14:39 <supermop> got the air back andy 16:15:14 <supermop> had it been out of warranty it would have cost 800 usd just to swap the drive 16:15:16 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 16:17:39 <Terkhen> andythenorth: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2087/ <--- if you are going to fix that now, use this one and commit it after the fix 16:17:53 <Terkhen> that way I won't get a bogus "string updated" entry in the report :P 16:19:48 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:21:51 <planetmaker> hm, translation? :-) 16:25:36 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:40:15 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-114-58.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:41:43 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:46 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4db0e4fd.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 16:51:23 <oskari89> Is there a list of currently WIP developing projects of OpenTTD? 16:52:16 <frosch123> yup, on my table 16:52:39 <frosch123> and in my bookmarks 16:53:42 <oskari89> Link? 16:53:59 <frosch123> no, i cannot spam 120 links here 16:55:45 <frosch123> https://secure.openttd.org/wiki/Todo_list <- there is ofc that list, if you look for something public 16:59:42 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:00:10 <oskari89> Ok, thanks :)= 17:01:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:07:45 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:08:18 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:10:21 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:13:13 <oskari89> https://secure.openttd.org/wiki/Requested_features 17:13:32 <oskari89> Someone could update that diagonal clearing and levelling, it's on trunk 17:14:11 <michi_cc> oskari89: It's a wiki, isn't it? 17:17:25 <oskari89> Yeps, it is 17:19:53 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 17:19:57 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:25:14 <oskari89> michi_cc: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=58420&start=60#p1062382 17:25:39 <oskari89> Is there any hope of those reaching trunk? :) 17:26:15 <oskari89> Seems that they are working hardly to introduce CBH 17:28:01 <Eddi|zuHause> oskari89: michi_cc has a "conflicting" patch for these things := 17:35:12 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-052-201.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 17:36:16 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.91.104] has joined #openttd 17:37:05 <peter1138> why would glGenTextures() not work? 17:37:09 <peter1138> what've i missed :S 17:37:53 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:41 <oskari89> Eddi: Ok :) 17:41:56 <oskari89> I think that next major features for 2.0 should be CBH and Signals on Tunnels and Bridges 17:42:16 <oskari89> And re-re-reworked c&p 17:42:26 <peter1138> because the context is open. hmm. 17:43:12 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.94.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:48:34 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:54:01 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:56:38 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:56 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0c2ea0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:46 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:15:39 *** LSky` [~x@5ED5A444.cm-7-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:25:36 *** kais58 is now known as kais58|AFK 18:35:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i have an idea: 2.0 is when everybody stops developing the game 18:36:08 <Rubidium> so that's roughly now ;) 18:36:38 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. openttd is dieing :p 18:36:45 <__ln__> not dying? 18:36:53 <Eddi|zuHause> dyeing :p 18:42:12 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-132-181.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.187.171] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:44:23 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:44:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.187.171] has joined #openttd 18:49:17 <Rubidium> oskari89: you are aware that 2.0 will only be released in 2020, right? 18:49:33 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24956 /trunk/src/lang (5 files in 2 dirs) (2013-02-02 18:49:21 UTC) 18:49:34 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:49:35 <DorpsGek> japanese - 13 changes by Aknuth 18:49:36 <DorpsGek> korean - 1 changes by telk5093 18:49:37 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 1 changes by RunisLabs 18:49:38 <DorpsGek> polish - 1 changes by wojteks86 18:49:39 <DorpsGek> tamil - 104 changes by aswn 18:51:11 <__ln__> btw, robot chicken star wars episode III is a disappointment 18:55:05 <oskari89> Rubidium: :P 18:55:34 <andythenorth> dieing is what? Casting dies? 18:55:40 <andythenorth> for metal punching and stuff? 18:56:22 <oskari89> Rubidium: I meant before and until 2.0 :D 18:57:40 <andythenorth> Rubidium: just release 2.0 now and be done with it 18:57:53 <andythenorth> stop making people wait for all the awesome features that are certainly going to be in 2.0 18:58:11 * Rubidium andythenorth actually, I'd just jump to version 20 in 2020 ;) 18:58:22 <andythenorth> well you have time :P 18:58:23 <Rubidium> argh... s/e/sg/ 18:58:27 * andythenorth considers a new thread 18:58:47 <andythenorth> actually silly idea, nvm 18:59:31 <Rubidium> likewise there being so "version" checker that checks for 1.3.0, 1.4.0, 1.5.0, 2.0.0 and such... so 1.3.1 would screw them over as well ;) 18:59:42 <Rubidium> i.e. skipping 1.3.0 19:00:53 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:01:07 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 19:01:13 <andythenorth> I was thinking release 2.0.1 19:01:20 <andythenorth> bug fix: remove features that didn't work 19:01:29 <andythenorth> that will screw with people :) 19:02:48 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:59 <Terkhen> andythenorth: would that include NewGRFs? 19:03:00 <Terkhen> :P 19:03:06 <andythenorth> maybe 19:03:14 <andythenorth> Fix: remove newgrfs 19:04:59 <Rubidium> actually, to really progress in the long run one needs to remove a lot of backward compatability. Basically to the point where NewGRFs and the old graphics don't work anymore 19:05:30 <__ln__> BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT 19:05:34 <frosch123> hmm... i don't remember... 19:05:49 <frosch123> was it already said that the main feature of 2.0 will be a 3.0-discussion? 19:05:58 <andythenorth> frosch123: it's the best idea yet 19:06:05 <andythenorth> sounds familiar 19:06:45 <andythenorth> "if you are a non-developer in an open source community, the best way to retard the project is to start a helpful '2.0' thread" 19:06:47 <Rubidium> e.g. separate drawing of ground tile and rail for the original rail & road types, houses, industries, etc. Supporting 4 viewing angles 19:07:09 <andythenorth> "devs will then spend all time laughing at the silly 2.0 thread instead of working on fixes and features" 19:07:39 <andythenorth> 4 viewing angles 19:07:40 <andythenorth> ugh 19:07:50 <andythenorth> then everything has to be rendered 19:07:57 <Rubidium> and revamping the whole map code 19:08:00 <andythenorth> I for one welcome my new renderised overlords 19:08:11 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> I was thinking release 2.0.1 <-- and then only release 2.5-beta and 2.6-alpha versions, never proper releases? :p 19:08:36 <andythenorth> yeah 19:08:41 <andythenorth> and then abandon the project 19:08:45 <andythenorth> because the CF broke 19:08:54 <frosch123> oh! that's actually a good point eddi! 19:09:07 <frosch123> we skipped nfo versions 8 to 31 to avoid confusons 19:09:17 <frosch123> so we should skip the whole 2.x thing to avoid confusion 19:09:25 <andythenorth> +1 19:09:56 <Eddi|zuHause> so we release openttd 13.5, ubuntu-style :p 19:10:01 <frosch123> hmm, so ottd 1.3 + ttdp 2.6 = ottd 3.9 ? 19:10:18 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: nah 19:10:39 <Rubidium> just year and month ;) 19:10:49 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:11:03 <Eddi|zuHause> or opensuse style, we just randomly increase then major or minor version depending on how we feel :p 19:11:27 <andythenorth> so instead of semver 19:11:33 <andythenorth> we have cantankerous versioning 19:11:51 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: my company had the official definition that increasing the major version number is a pure marketing decision 19:12:00 <andythenorth> that's what I do too 19:12:24 <andythenorth> minor and trivial are kind of obvious 19:12:44 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: that's why we get firefox 14 and not 2.14 or something? :p 19:13:00 <Rubidium> frosch123: do you also have that the first draft that leaves your computer must be version 1.0 of the document? 19:13:30 <Rubidium> instead of 1.0 being the version that you think is ready to be released 19:13:38 <frosch123> hmm, no, but the document template starts with 1.0 19:13:39 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: "leave" as in "checked into the repository"? 19:13:44 <frosch123> and i would not bother editing it 19:14:22 <frosch123> oh, and i guess having a "final" thing would be not in the style of my company 19:14:35 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: if only that were standard behaviour 19:14:41 <frosch123> what do you sell after a final thing anyway? 19:14:45 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-114-58.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i guess i only worked in "advanced" companies, or in companies where i'm the only developer then :) 19:16:33 <Rubidium> the company that I work uses a) svn on Windows share or b) svn on svn without authentication 19:16:53 <Rubidium> the latter means that everyone can add/change/remove stuff, but no trace of who did what 19:17:22 <frosch123> oh, i know the former 19:17:37 <Rubidium> so $BOSS likes to accuse people of removing documents that he thinks is done by the person because he thinks that the person is somehow against the document 19:17:42 <frosch123> a shared drive with a svn checkout with all kind of weird local modifications 19:17:47 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.91.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:57 <frosch123> which every now and then someone accidently commits without any correlation 19:17:59 <Rubidium> nevertheless, the svn is riddled with removed A.doc, added A.pdf 19:18:09 <Rubidium> or removed A_1.doc, added A_2.doc 19:18:18 <Alberth> why I am not surprised? :p 19:19:10 <andythenorth> just use dropbox 19:19:18 <andythenorth> then your stuff randomly appears and disappears 19:19:20 <andythenorth> way more fun 19:19:52 <andythenorth> Terkhen: so should I commit my english lang change or no? 19:19:56 <andythenorth> I was afk earlier sorry 19:20:08 <Rubidium> and the reason a) happens: $sysadmin still hasn't given me a VM to install svn in, b) happens due to not being able to solve the question of "how would someone change his password"; just an username without password would be so beneficial on that repository already 19:20:25 <Rubidium> the amount of fighting because documents went mysteriously "missing" is annoying 19:20:32 <Alberth> andythenorth: look for " *{}" too then 19:20:34 <andythenorth> start your own company 19:20:43 <frosch123> hmm... the vm thing.. i remember you talking about that 1.5 years ago or so :p 19:21:05 <frosch123> Rubidium: oh, missing documents is no issue 19:21:14 <Alberth> andythenorth: ie white space before {} 19:21:23 <frosch123> usually someone misclicked in the explorer and moved a whole folder to some adjacent folder 19:21:51 <andythenorth> Alberth: that might be deliberate, for ease of reading the lines 19:22:05 <andythenorth> should just make nml drop that specific case :P 19:22:12 <andythenorth> too magical actually, bad idea 19:22:15 <Terkhen> andythenorth: yes 19:22:29 <Terkhen> just commit it before my translation changes :P 19:22:38 <Terkhen> they already take into account the fix 19:22:52 <Alberth> andythenorth: you'd need to do much more to make it sanely readable, imho :) 19:23:34 <andythenorth> Alberth: k 19:23:42 <andythenorth> well there was one case in english lang 19:23:46 <andythenorth> removed 19:23:53 <Alberth> thanks 19:26:18 <Rubidium> how would we "fix" 5349? After all, it basically applies to functions with strings. So does something need to be added to all those functions? 19:28:07 <frosch123> what do you want to "fix"? 19:28:28 <frosch123> i think the original report is invalid, but i don't quite understand the discussion that follows 19:29:32 <Rubidium> "fix" the documentation, to make it very clear 19:29:57 <frosch123> what funcions accept strings? 19:30:06 <frosch123> isn't it only the log thingie? 19:30:26 <frosch123> or do you mean the whole Text and RAW_STRING thingie? 19:31:09 <Rubidium> AIStation.SetName 19:31:26 <frosch123> oh 19:31:48 <frosch123> nah, i don't think those need documentation 19:31:59 <frosch123> it should be obvious that they only accept stuf which players can enter 19:33:26 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/ex.diff 19:34:12 <frosch123> s/00019/0019/ 19:35:14 <frosch123> looks fine otherwise 19:46:52 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24957 trunk/src/script/api/script_log.hpp (2013-02-02 19:46:46 UTC) 19:46:53 <DorpsGek> -Document [FS#5349]: newlines and other special characters are removed/converted 19:52:09 <V453000> andythenorth: [20:26] <+Stablean> <Jam35> Slight error w brewery: [20:26] <+Stablean> <Jam35> doesn't accept fruit yet is listed in cargo production 19:53:02 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24958 trunk/src/smallmap_gui.cpp (2013-02-02 19:52:56 UTC) 19:53:03 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5458]: refering to non-existent method 19:55:55 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: could you have a look at FS#5043? Does it still happen? 19:57:45 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: if you can wait 2 months 19:58:20 <andythenorth> V453000: known issue thanks :) 19:58:27 <V453000> :) 19:58:28 <andythenorth> haven't figured out how to fix yet 19:58:59 <Supercheese> Yay, January screenshot contestants making heavy use of Emergency Vehicles :) 20:02:08 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: current problem is that CETS is really memory heavy to compile (in a way that drives my swap crazy, and makes the system unusable for half an hour) and i don't have a small test grf lying around 20:07:50 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:16:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.187.171] has joined #openttd 20:18:49 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24959 trunk/src/core/bitmath_func.hpp (2013-02-02 20:18:41 UTC) 20:18:50 <DorpsGek> -Doc [FS#5459]: that certain parameters need to be within certain boundaries 20:19:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24960 /trunk (readme.txt src/misc_gui.cpp) (2013-02-02 20:19:17 UTC) 20:19:25 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5423]: inconsistencies in the "thanks to" lists 20:22:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.187.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:28:08 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:12 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: it is a shame that there is no container format that makes a collection of grfs appear as one grf to the user / gui 20:30:25 <andythenorth> then each vehicle / MU could be a standalone grf :P 20:30:34 <andythenorth> compiling would be somewhat faster no? 20:31:35 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: well, my idea was to place an action C somewhere that i can split the nfo at, to combine the resulting grf out of these nfo pieces after compiling each individual vehicle's nml 20:32:09 <Eddi|zuHause> the action C would basically state "common header ends here" 20:32:32 <Eddi|zuHause> but nobody implemented action C support in nml, afair 20:33:28 <andythenorth> you could? o_O 20:34:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D8E4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:35:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i could... but definitely not in the next 2 months (give or take) 20:35:33 <andythenorth> hmm 20:35:39 <andythenorth> how do I write a switch in nml? 20:35:45 <andythenorth> I've never done it from scratch 20:35:51 <andythenorth> always c+p 20:35:53 * andythenorth copies one 20:37:15 <Alberth> now read and type it a few times, until you have it memorized :) 20:37:27 <andythenorth> hrm 20:41:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.187.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:36 *** goodger [~ben@host86-129-12-34.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:50:38 *** goodger [~ben@host86-129-12-34.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 20:52:23 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 21:06:33 <peter1138> but surely nml's easy 21:07:13 <Supercheese> People write switches from scratch once, and then copypasta the rest 21:08:00 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:10:36 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 21:12:39 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-50-19.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:16:03 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:17:37 *** Dr_Tan [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:17:57 <Eddi|zuHause> *mental note* call "df" on the right computer :p 21:18:45 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:20:51 <Alberth> or buy a bigger hard disk :) 21:21:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i did that, lasts not as long as you might think :p 21:21:20 <Supercheese> Ok, I really need to make an Aeroscraft grf 21:21:30 <Supercheese> I have to find or make a 3D model for it first... 21:25:29 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:25:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:28:19 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-50-19.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:30:10 <andythenorth> bye 21:30:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:33:32 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:34:13 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0e4fd.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:53:31 <NGC3982> Evening 21:56:06 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@186.212.213.92] has joined #openttd 22:05:32 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:06:02 *** Dr_Tan [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 22:06:20 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:06:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 22:06:45 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:42 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:09:20 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-70-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:11:10 *** pjpe [ae5f38bd@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:11:34 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:11:47 *** pjpe [ae5f38bd@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 22:12:57 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:07 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:48 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:17:59 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-155-106-122.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:20:08 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:20:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 22:25:51 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-70-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:25:59 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-100-174.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:29:38 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:30:19 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:02 <Terkhen> good night 22:41:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1910E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:30 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:49:11 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:49:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 23:05:20 <LordAro> anyone still awake? 23:06:15 <V453000> no 23:06:53 <NGC3982> Never. 23:07:42 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 23:08:35 <LordAro> that's a shame 23:11:57 <NGC3982> Yes, it is. 23:11:59 <NGC3982> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cl%C3%A9o_from_5_to_7 23:12:04 <NGC3982> Has anyone seen this? 23:23:53 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:27:05 <frosch123> sounds like art 23:30:29 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 23:32:10 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:32:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:37:37 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-155-106-122.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:04 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:58:12 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-4d04d938.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd