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00:00:32 <peter1138> whoop 00:00:51 <peter1138> just knocked ~ 4ms off that 00:05:38 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-4d04ce27.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:14:41 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 00:16:18 *** Wuzzy2 [~Wuzzy@p549F9D72.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Wuzzy2] 00:17:30 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:21:32 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:25:35 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:29:04 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:31:01 *** ST2 is now known as xT2 00:41:36 <__ln__> end of discussion 00:45:36 <Eddi|zuHause> there was a discussion? 00:46:45 <__ln__> end of monologue then 00:47:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i was under the impression a discussion involves 2 or more people with different opinions exchanging arguments 00:50:15 <__ln__> could be. 00:52:02 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:56:31 <Pikka> isn't it 00:57:25 <Supercheese> Pikka: my 0-6-0 goods engines keep swapping their paint schemes when the train autorefits 00:57:47 <Supercheese> All black when freight-ish stuff, then to colorful then autorefit to goods 00:57:48 <peter1138> woo, knocked off another couple of ms :p 00:57:49 <Supercheese> and back again 00:58:03 <Supercheese> when autorefit* 00:58:27 <peter1138> (checking at the start if i need to check for buffer overflow 00:58:33 <Supercheese> I suspect engine-liver-based-on-train-cargo was implemented before autorefit :P 00:58:36 <Supercheese> livery* 00:59:00 <peter1138> ) 01:12:13 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 01:26:02 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-15.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 01:35:10 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-15.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:12 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-15.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 02:14:51 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-15.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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09:59:38 <blathijs> goodger: Doesn't that basically mean just removing copyright altogether? 10:00:09 <goodger> no, but it should be something you are sued for (tort), rather than something you are arrested for (crime) 10:00:54 <Eddi|zuHause> blathijs: civil law vs. criminal law 10:01:25 <goodger> though I should point out that only distribution is a crime, and consumption is a tort 10:05:22 <blathijs> goodger: Ah, like that 10:06:23 <goodger> I also favour a reduction of copyright's scope, but that's a separate matter 10:08:21 <peter1138> scope? 10:08:38 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:08:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:09:35 <goodger> peter1138: I'd reduce the terms, expand fair use, etc 10:09:49 <Eddi|zuHause> scope as in time, or what is covered? 10:13:30 <goodger> it doesn't matter; this country has no effective democratic process, so any potential reform is beyond my influence 10:13:44 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 10:14:43 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-10-134.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:19:51 <peter1138> great argument 10:21:57 <Eddi|zuHause> "democratic process" isn't something god-given. you must demand it, otherwise it won't be there... 10:26:58 *** gooodger [~ben@host86-143-75-120.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:26:58 *** goodger [~ben@host86-143-75-120.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26:58 <planetmaker> the price of freedom is eternal vigilance? 10:27:10 <planetmaker> good morning everyone also :-) 10:27:50 <gooodger> we can't demand democratic process, we just have to hope the current system installs a set of politicians willing to provide it 10:28:06 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 10:29:07 <planetmaker> that sounds way too defiant. You can take things into your own hands. Raise your voice. Become involved 10:29:42 <planetmaker> If you're not willing to stand up for your ideals and ideas - why should others? 10:29:57 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 10:30:00 <SpComb> are we talking about tt-forums or what? :) 10:30:33 <planetmaker> I think not :-) 10:30:39 <SpComb> down with the orudge tyranny! 10:34:31 <gooodger> orudge is a fine fellow 10:44:32 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-161-132.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:47:45 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.111.29] has joined #openttd 10:49:52 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:14 *** APTX_ [APTX@aptx.org] has joined #openttd 10:53:35 <peter1138> hmm, i wonder how much heat will be generated by running my cpu at full performance? 10:53:44 <peter1138> cpu temp is currently 20°C 10:53:56 <peter1138> (better than last week when it was 8°C) 10:54:05 <TinoDidriksen> Pfft, modern CPUs are so cool you can't even fry stuff on them. 10:54:17 <peter1138> TinoDidriksen, it's a 5 year old AMD... 10:55:05 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.86.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:55:09 <TinoDidriksen> 20°C is still nothing. My old machine used to reach 90°C...had to use a limiter program to prevent it from shutting down past 80°C. 10:55:13 *** APTX [APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:55:32 <peter1138> TinoDidriksen, i know it's nothing, maybe reread my question? :) 10:56:04 <TinoDidriksen> I did read it. My point was more that even at max, modern CPUs just won't fry stuff. 10:56:22 <peter1138> i didn't ask about frying 10:56:25 <Eddi|zuHause> "You know the world is going to hell when CVE must change its numbering scheme to allow more than 9999 security bugs per year" 10:58:32 <peter1138> hmm 89W TDP 10:58:43 *** gooodger [~ben@host86-143-75-120.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: gooodger] 10:59:11 *** Celestar_ is now known as Celestar 10:59:14 *** goodger [~ben@host86-143-75-120.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:59:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:59:24 <andythenorth> Rubidium: 24972 \o/ 11:00:53 <Eddi|zuHause> "D-Link Firmware: v2.09EU Build: 09beta01: Fixed D-Track-HQ20130104000005:Manual date limited to 2012.." 11:01:13 <Eddi|zuHause> "D-Link Firmware: v2.09EU Build: 09beta02: Modify Manual date to 2040." 11:01:17 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 11:01:23 <Eddi|zuHause> "D-Link Firmware: v2.09EU Build: 09beta03: Modify Manual date to 2037." 11:01:59 <peter1138> heh 11:03:57 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-108-17-113-33.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:09:55 *** APTX [APTX@aptx.org] has joined #openttd 11:10:37 *** APTX_ [APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:14:31 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf? 11:14:39 <Eddi|zuHause> -#define TWO -2.0 /* -2 */ 11:14:40 <Eddi|zuHause> +#define TWO 2.0 /* 2 */ 11:14:53 <goodger> o.o 11:15:12 <Eddi|zuHause> http://sourceware.org/ml/glibc-cvs/2013-q1/msg00115.html 11:15:51 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:23:26 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:24:43 *** Extrems [~super@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 11:28:00 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:33:55 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 11:41:30 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:46:07 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:05:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B0D1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:07:26 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-15.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:10:49 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:25:06 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-186-203.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:29:17 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:30:36 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:06 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 12:31:15 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-186-203.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 12:31:56 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-186-203.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:35:52 *** roadt__ [~roadt@60.168.88.182] has joined #openttd 12:41:39 *** namad8 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-186-203.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:43:12 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.111.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:44:06 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-186-203.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:09 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:50:25 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 12:56:28 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:57:51 *** namad8 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-186-203.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:54 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:09:19 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 13:11:12 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-15.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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16:30:28 <Eddi|zuHause> the kind that don't have public funding 16:31:33 <goodger> ah, commercial television 16:32:12 <peter1138> cos the bbc is not commercial 16:32:13 <Eddi|zuHause> the kind that makes the cheapest programs that reach the most viewers 16:33:09 <Eddi|zuHause> and because like everywhere, the dumb viewers far outnumber the intelligent ones, so this results in ever dumber programmes 16:34:27 *** roadt__ [~roadt@60.168.93.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:34:41 <goodger> sounds like ITV to me 16:45:52 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-10-125.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 16:48:37 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:50:32 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:50:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:29 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:54:48 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 16:57:38 *** goodger [~ben@host86-143-75-120.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: goodger] 16:59:01 *** goodger [~ben@host86-143-75-120.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:03:39 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:05 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has joined #openttd 17:06:16 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07:11 *** roadt__ [~roadt@60.168.87.86] has joined #openttd 17:11:52 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:14:33 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.83.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:38 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:41:43 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 17:47:16 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:51:12 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24975 trunk/src/viewport.cpp (2013-02-06 17:51:05 UTC) 17:51:13 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5463]: Additional zoom in levels could glitch by a few pixels due to incorrect rounding. 17:51:43 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.90.175] has joined #openttd 17:57:55 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 17:59:02 *** roadt__ [~roadt@60.168.87.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:29 <peter1138> hee 17:59:52 <Pikka> haw 17:59:57 <peter1138> PIKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 18:00:04 <Pikka> does it? 18:00:25 <Pikka> industry coding is "fun" 18:00:35 <peter1138> so is your mother 18:00:48 <Pikka> probably in a different way though 18:02:28 <Eddi|zuHause> "ACTA is dead. long live TAFTA" 18:15:38 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:20:46 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:26:42 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:14 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:33:47 <frosch123> hmm, someone was hungry... 18:33:53 <frosch123> ... and ate most of the bugs 18:34:29 <peter1138> heh 18:35:11 <peter1138> non-platform-specific bugs, anyway 18:38:53 <frosch123> yeah, looks like osx is like a big pile of plumb protecting the bugs under it from any radiation which might harm them 18:39:11 <peter1138> pile of plumb eh? 18:39:38 <Supercheese> plumbum 18:41:40 <Pikka> plumbum 18:41:49 <Pikka> like your mother 18:42:23 <peter1138> yes 18:42:28 <peter1138> i do like my mother 18:44:48 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:45:29 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24976 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2013-02-06 18:45:20 UTC) 18:45:30 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:31 <DorpsGek> korean - 16 changes by telk5093 18:45:32 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 1 changes by Stabilitronas 18:45:33 <DorpsGek> malay - 2 changes by richz 18:48:00 <Terkhen> hello 18:48:54 <Pikka> who's going to get r25000? :) 18:49:07 <Terkhen> someone who commits :P 18:49:19 <peter1138> probably some dodgy hidden commit by TB :p 18:50:18 <TrueBrain> I would never do such thing! (A) 18:55:14 <frosch123> whoever commits r25000 had to pay for the party 18:55:23 <frosch123> if it is translators, then tb steps up :) 18:56:18 <frosch123> anyway, it's still way too cold for a party :s 18:56:27 <frosch123> maybe we should go to terkhen's place 18:57:28 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-004-099.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 19:02:24 *** wojteks86 [5db0e60d@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:08:20 <Rubidium> frosch123: you could make a beta2 release, or fix FS#3764 ;) 19:08:34 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-155-106-122.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:08:50 <frosch123> yeah, i should fix 3764 :) 19:11:49 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:12:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19567.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:14:01 <wojteks86> hi 19:14:21 <wojteks86> can anyone please explain how do I translate "Your average cool engine" from 2cc trainset? 19:14:43 <Rubidium> V453000: ^^^ 19:15:07 <Rubidium> hmm... or isn't that the from the crazy set? 19:15:27 <frosch123> no, 2cc is a completely ordinary set 19:15:36 <frosch123> i am surprised they use the word "cool" 19:15:42 <frosch123> sounds like a bug :p 19:16:32 <peter1138> and "Your average", tbh 19:18:20 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:18:36 <wojteks86> dont know, I just opened the original English lang file 19:18:44 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:0:6979:842d] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:19:00 *** xT2 is now known as ST2 19:22:05 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has joined #openttd 19:25:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:25 <Wolf01> hello 19:30:53 *** wojteks86 [5db0e60d@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:32:14 *** wojteks86 [5db0e60d@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:32:24 <Supercheese> Hmm, I can't seem to get this patch to properly apply again 19:32:43 <wojteks86> which one? 19:32:50 <Supercheese> new map features 19:32:55 <frosch123> yeah, usually you can only apply them once 19:33:19 <Supercheese> frosch: do I just svc checkout again or something? 19:33:21 <Supercheese> svn* 19:33:44 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-132-199.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:34:16 <frosch123> you might also be interested in "status" "revert -R ." and "update -r foo" 19:34:39 * Supercheese is not well-versed in patching 19:34:50 <Supercheese> I click "apply patch" and hope it automagically works :P 19:35:58 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: usually you need to delete all new files added by the patch, then run "svn revert" on all the other files 19:36:37 <Supercheese> That seems to indeed help, thanks 19:37:35 <peter1138> woaaaaaaaaaaaah ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 19:37:43 <peter1138> ahhh hahhhah hahhhhhhhha hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 19:37:55 <peter1138> x a few more 19:38:02 <Eddi|zuHause> he's finally gone mad 19:38:39 <Supercheese> he's been mad :P 19:39:08 <Eddi|zuHause> no, he's just been crazy before. there's a small but subtle difference :) 19:39:29 <Supercheese> M.A.D. 19:39:50 *** wojteks86 [5db0e60d@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:40:28 <Eddi|zuHause> speaking of which, i always wondered whether the guy's called "Alfred E. Neumann" in the english version as well 19:40:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:05 *** wojteks86 [5db0e60d@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:41:12 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, i was crazy before, this is just the dark side 19:41:14 <Supercheese> "New-mun" vs. "Noi-mann" :P 19:41:42 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: i believe he has like 7 names in 5 languages 19:43:41 <Terkhen> frosch123: the flat that I share wouldn't be able to hold many people for the party :P 19:44:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Terkhen: we can go outside, it's nice weather 19:44:43 <frosch123> Terkhen: i don't like an indoor party, that's why i want it somewhere warm :) 19:45:05 <Supercheese> Monaco :D 19:45:09 <frosch123> or we have to postpone it till summer 19:45:15 <Supercheese> actually, I have no idea how the weather there is 19:45:25 <Supercheese> or anywhere in Europe, really :P 19:45:50 <frosch123> here is snow temperature 19:45:59 <Eddi|zuHause> we'll maybe have an r26.6k party :) 19:46:29 <Supercheese> I've only ever been to the UK, the weather there was generally bleh, I'll presume southern Europe has nicer climates 19:46:58 <Rubidium> sorry, but that's a bad number. 28k8 is much nicer 19:47:23 <Terkhen> heh :P 19:47:23 <Rubidium> s/28k8/28.8k/ 19:47:32 <frosch123> even r26k6 would not be this year 19:47:34 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, but that takes too long :p 19:47:35 <frosch123> likely 19:48:01 <Eddi|zuHause> just commit cargodist, one patch per line :) 19:48:45 <Eddi|zuHause> and YACD as well, watch them battle each other :p 19:48:46 <Rubidium> "new map features" will help a lot 19:50:08 <Supercheese> Rubidium: I just compiled that :) 19:51:07 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-092-078-023-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: only if you call it "new map array" :p 19:52:17 <Eddi|zuHause> (and then say "this was the final commit. so long, and thanks for all the fish" 19:52:30 <Eddi|zuHause> ) 19:55:57 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:56:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 19:56:20 <Alberth> moin 20:08:02 *** wojteks86 [5db0e60d@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:12:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:12:45 <Alberth> hi 20:13:03 <peter1138> 28k8 == 28.8k 20:13:07 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13:12 <peter1138> when i was tought it, anyway 20:13:26 <peter1138> *taught 20:13:26 <Double-O-3982> If i - In Debian - wants to make a usb drive act as a folder in (let's say) /home/name/disc-drive-folder. Is 'mount' what i'm looking for? 20:13:36 *** Double-O-3982 is now known as NGC3982 20:13:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:15:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:15:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:16:06 <Alberth> you need 'mount' to attach anything to the file system; modern systems have auto-mounters though, they mount the disk at the moment you stick the usb stick in the machine 20:16:39 <NGC3982> I see. The drive is already mounted then, and i need to "move it". 20:16:45 * NGC3982 reads the manual. 20:16:45 <Alberth> no doubt auto-mounters are configured somewhere too, but I never bothered to find our where that is 20:16:48 <frosch123> make a symlink then 20:17:15 <frosch123> ln -s /media/FOOBAR /home/name/disc-drive-folder 20:17:15 <andythenorth> lo 20:17:33 <NGC3982> oh 20:17:35 <Alberth> quak, andy :) 20:17:35 * NGC3982 tries. 20:17:53 <Pikka> hello andy 20:18:20 <Pikka> hm 20:18:30 <Pikka> why is there no control code for "normal size" text? 20:18:41 <Pikka> ie, in a news message 20:18:53 <LordAro> \o Alberth 20:18:55 <andythenorth> bonsoir pikka 20:19:05 <andythenorth> hey look 20:19:08 <andythenorth> HEQS steam tram http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=423950&nseq=21 20:19:13 <andythenorth> in 2011 20:19:18 <andythenorth> where is roadtypes plz? 20:19:19 <Alberth> hi LordAro :) 20:19:43 <Supercheese> andy: roadtypes are in trunk, you mean newgrf roadtypes :P 20:19:58 <andythenorth> also that picture is very pretty 20:20:00 <Pikka> good question andythenorth 20:20:00 <andythenorth> and green 20:20:05 <Supercheese> and Chinese 20:20:07 <Alberth> and sunny 20:20:13 <andythenorth> and smokey 20:21:16 <Alberth> it's a steam train :) 20:23:57 <andythenorth> this has improved my day http://www.thesalopianbar.co.uk/images/cheddarvalleysmall.jpg 20:24:20 <andythenorth> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wnl6t0CBeKs/SXSOdZha_-I/AAAAAAAABfE/5wslJUpjIrc/s400/Cheddar+Valley+cider.JPG 20:24:26 <andythenorth> it actuslly 20:24:31 <andythenorth> is luminous 20:25:13 * NGC3982 figured it out. 20:25:22 <NGC3982> Alberth, frosch123: Thank you. 20:26:10 * Alberth liked the steam tram more than the beer 20:26:26 <andythenorth> cider :P 20:26:32 <andythenorth> Pikka: so is TaI done then? 20:26:43 <Pikka> very 20:26:59 <andythenorth> awesome 20:27:17 <Pikka> just trying to work out how to convey complex gameplay factors in THREE SHOUTY WORDS! 20:27:18 <andythenorth> so about 20%? 20:27:25 <Pikka> well 20:27:33 <Pikka> one industry done about 80% 20:27:39 <andythenorth> MOAR KITTENS PLZ? 20:27:42 <Pikka> and once one is done, it's all cut and paste, right? ;) 20:28:03 <andythenorth> yeah] 20:28:10 <Supercheese> indeed :) 20:28:10 <andythenorth> gah, can't type and eat :P 20:28:55 <Pikka> my problem at the moment is telling the player the difference between "this industry is closing, but you can save it" and "this industry is closing, and you can't save it" 20:29:18 <Supercheese> just disable industry closure 20:29:20 <Supercheese> FIRS does it 20:29:25 <Pikka> while keeping the language natural, and fitting it into a news message headline :) 20:29:38 <Alberth> andy: http://callbrewbaker.homestead.com/CuteKittens.html 20:30:35 <Pikka> hmm 20:30:38 <andythenorth> Pikka: you could use swearing? 20:30:43 <Pikka> I could 20:31:11 <andythenorth> openttd is a bit polite currently 20:31:15 <andythenorth> it should swear more 20:31:30 <andythenorth> maybe a new lang 20:31:35 <andythenorth> en-swearing 20:31:36 <Pikka> actually I thought about making a "humourous" town name set, to make the millions of new games required for industry testing slightly less dull 20:31:40 <Pikka> but then I couldn't be bothered 20:31:56 <andythenorth> figures 20:32:12 <Pikka> okay 20:32:25 <Pikka> news headlines short and not terribly informative 20:32:34 <Pikka> actual gameplay information in the industry window 20:32:35 <Pikka> got it 20:32:47 <Alberth> andythenorth: make a pirate language version 20:33:16 <Supercheese> Arrrr 20:33:21 <andythenorth> Pikka: news mesage: "lolwut this industry is a bit wtf" 20:33:24 <Pikka> more like an archaeologist language version 20:33:25 <Supercheese> Best project ever 20:33:31 <Pikka> talk like phil harding day 20:34:59 <LordAro> ^^ 20:35:10 <Supercheese> OTTD should be released in Piratespeak for Talk like a Pirate day 20:35:42 <Supercheese> All vehicles disabled except sailing ships 20:35:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D221.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:37:17 <andythenorth> I can't decide how broken FISH 2 is 20:37:25 <andythenorth> it's either 'just a little bit broken' 20:37:32 <andythenorth> or it's totally borked and I should can it 20:38:01 <Rubidium> can it and irradiate it 20:38:22 <andythenorth> tempting 20:38:40 <Supercheese> canned FISH is too common, put it in a mug 20:40:54 <andythenorth> Pikka: should ship generations gain capacity? Or just speed? 20:41:09 <Pikka> or only capacity? 20:41:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B0D1.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:46 * Supercheese likes the current generation scheme in FISH 20:41:53 <Supercheese> +speed, +capacity 20:42:20 <andythenorth> then you just have to scrap a few ships on the route 20:42:28 <Rubidium> less dirty smoke 20:42:32 <andythenorth> it's the most boring kind of route micromanagement 20:42:44 <Pikka> ships need to sink :) 20:42:50 <Supercheese> pirates 20:43:00 <Supercheese> newgrf disasters 20:43:35 <Supercheese> scrapping ships on a route when upgrades become available seems *gasp* realistic 20:44:34 <andythenorth> it's not very interesting 20:44:37 <andythenorth> as things go 20:44:40 <Pikka> I think 20:44:43 <Pikka> fish has too many ships 20:44:54 <Pikka> I think most vehicle sets have too many vehicles 20:45:04 <Alberth> indeed 20:45:33 <Pikka> I think our OpenTTD needs boiling down a bit 20:45:38 <Supercheese> and Baskin Robbins has too many flavors of ice cream 20:45:59 <andythenorth> Pikka: parameter: minimal set of ships? 20:46:23 <Pikka> maybe 20:46:25 <andythenorth> if I ever resurrect my truck set...it gets 2 trucks per generation 20:46:28 <andythenorth> and some weird ones 20:46:31 <Pikka> :) 20:46:45 <Pikka> I don't know about parameters for minimal sets 20:47:19 <Pikka> might be better to build minimal from the ground up 20:48:01 <Alberth> 1 vehicle per newgrf :D 20:48:11 <Pikka> close, alberth ;) 20:48:35 <Supercheese> â63 new vehicles max 20:48:39 <Supercheese> O_o 20:49:15 <andythenorth> minimal ships eh? 20:49:19 <andythenorth> what would get included? 20:49:24 <Alberth> already in the default set I use less than 1/2 of the trains on normal rail 20:49:52 <Pikka> andy: one "normal" ship per generation 20:50:03 <Alberth> andythenorth: pick 8 random ships each time you start a game :p 20:50:20 <Pikka> and maybe one "small" ship per 2 or 3 generations, if you think you need one 20:50:31 <andythenorth> Pikka: I had to add all the stupid tankers :P 20:50:45 <andythenorth> most MP games seem to use the Island Trader 20:50:52 <andythenorth> 360t, and fastest ship 20:51:10 <Pikka> well there you go 20:51:23 <Pikka> also, the fewer things you're trying to balance, the easier the balance is ;) 20:51:24 <Alberth> I use a big one, 1080t iirc 20:52:25 <Supercheese> Oh wow, does Wolfram Alpha use the Game of Life as a "processing" image? 20:52:43 <andythenorth> Alberth: but you could use 3x360t ? o_O 20:53:23 <Alberth> I am sure I could 20:54:26 <Alberth> and for other stuff than coal it is probably even a good idea 20:58:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:58:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:58:55 <andythenorth> herp 20:58:59 <andythenorth> cast iron radiators 20:59:05 <andythenorth> kill my wifi signal every time :P 21:01:19 <Alberth> don't move :) 21:11:27 <Markk> Wow, first one. 21:11:33 <Markk> "World recession" 21:11:39 <Markk> What does that mean? :o 21:14:03 <Alberth> Markk http://wiki.openttd.org/Economy 21:14:46 <Markk> Oh 21:14:48 <Markk> Sorry. 21:14:55 <Markk> I feel stupid now. 21:15:02 <Markk> Of course I should just rtfm. :) 21:15:05 <Markk> Thanks mate! 21:16:47 <Alberth> sometimes people need a gentle push :) 21:18:37 * NGC3982 pushes Markk of a clift. 21:18:40 <Markk> Yes. 21:18:41 <Markk> Haha 21:19:16 <Markk> Sometimes it's easier to just ask. :) 21:19:30 * NGC3982 asks alot. 21:19:35 <Markk> a lot* 21:19:40 <Markk> :* 21:24:58 * NGC3982 prepares death. 21:27:00 * andythenorth removes ships from FISH 2 21:27:02 <andythenorth> but which? 21:27:10 <LordAro> alot? http://tinyurl.com/29zllts 21:28:15 <frosch123> night 21:28:21 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ffd2e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29:49 <Eddi|zuHause> is that related to an ocelot or a zealot? 21:33:57 <Terkhen> good night 21:34:12 <Pikka> all of them, andy! :D 21:36:00 <Kjetil> and what about sir.codes-a-lot ? 21:37:48 <andythenorth> Pikka: well that is easy :) 21:37:56 <andythenorth> but where's the challenge? :P 21:40:53 <Alberth> since you want to keep the odd ones, I'd say remove the even ones 21:41:35 <andythenorth> he 21:41:38 <andythenorth> good call 21:41:39 <andythenorth> also 21:41:44 <andythenorth> is anyone translating FIRS stuff? 21:41:55 <Alberth> you changed more strings? 21:41:59 <andythenorth> might be time for next x.x.foo release 21:42:17 <andythenorth> Alberth: dutch is up to date 21:43:10 <Alberth> yep, just 11 outdated false positives :) 21:46:12 <andythenorth> Pikka: how about just a 35t ship? 21:46:19 <andythenorth> if you have more cargo, get more ships... 21:46:26 <Pikka> eh 21:46:34 <Pikka> I think if anything, big ships are better 21:46:41 <Pikka> differentiates them as a transport mode more 21:46:57 <andythenorth> he 21:47:09 <andythenorth> I find that they're differentiated by going on water :) 21:47:16 <andythenorth> trains aren't so good at that 21:47:23 <andythenorth> especially if you use a sensible bridge grf 21:47:50 <Alberth> but then you need more ships than wagons delivering the stuff to the dock 21:48:40 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:51:06 <andythenorth> night night 21:51:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:17:02 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:18:54 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@84.40.82.221] has joined #openttd 22:19:13 <Wolf01> 'night 22:19:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:23:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19567.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:49 *** Bonez305 [~kvirc@c-98-203-59-207.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:38:22 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-092-078-023-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:11 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 22:44:54 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:46:08 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 22:49:33 <peter1138> ok, that's weird 22:49:40 <peter1138> my "less" has been playing up recently 22:49:50 <NGC3982> http://www.flickr.com/photos/appemobile/8452055838/in/photostream 22:49:51 <peter1138> scrolling to the top or bottom of a file made it lock up for a few seconds 22:49:52 <NGC3982> So. 22:49:59 <NGC3982> This is where i host my Ottd servers now 22:50:03 <NGC3982> ..And it's finally done. 22:50:13 <Supercheese> Neatly tucked away where no one would suspect, eh? 22:50:17 <NGC3982> I'm never going to touch it again. 22:50:20 <peter1138> so i just ran less -M -S instead, and it worked fine, showing the line and character counts as expected, no lock ups 22:50:36 <peter1138> and now it doesn't lock up without those paramters anymore... wtf? 22:52:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i need glasses... 22:52:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i just read "that's less weird", and thought wtf? 22:54:53 <Pikka> you broke breaking it 22:54:59 <Pikka> it's always annoying when that happens 22:55:12 <Supercheese> If it's broken, break it again until it's fixed 23:07:03 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 23:07:45 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-155-106-122.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:08:43 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 23:09:22 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@84.40.82.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:27 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:20:55 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 23:25:15 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:30:16 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:41:03 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:56 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-10-125.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:57:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:58:29 *** Celestar_ [~vici@mnch-4d04e5b4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:59:30 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit []