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00:03:34 <andythenorth> is it harsh that I'm just deleting broken strings in translations? 00:03:55 <Supercheese> "deleting" when the revision history is saved isn't really "deleting" 00:03:57 <Supercheese> ;) 00:05:37 <andythenorth> k 00:07:04 <andythenorth> done 00:12:09 <andythenorth> bedtime 00:12:10 *** andythenorth [~Andy@2002:4d66:7022:0:b8c1:4066:3b58:427a] has left #openttd [] 00:21:12 *** chester_ [~chester@95-26-132-126.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:27:30 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 00:35:43 <Eddi|zuHause> don't put thoughts like that into andy's head :p 00:43:33 *** Superuser [~superuser@host81-129-133-93.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.] 00:43:52 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:49:09 *** Celestar_ [~vici@mnch-4d04c60c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 00:56:10 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-4d04fc05.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:03:05 <Terkhen> good night 02:07:34 <Wolf01> 'night 02:07:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 02:12:45 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:25:29 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-174-218.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 04:19:24 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4db13582.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 04:26:41 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d0867da.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:07:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v peter1138] by ChanServ 05:07:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v orudge] by ChanServ 05:07:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v SmatZ] by ChanServ 05:07:59 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 05:30:35 *** DrZoidzerg [~chris@124-148-133-35.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:30:58 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-19-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:31:07 <Pikka> innit though 05:46:04 <Pikka> does anyone else have any ideas about http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5473 ? Is the pattern I'm hearing due to a bug, or something else? 05:47:13 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 05:55:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CDC2.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:13:33 <Supercheese> you could check the source code, if you haven't already 06:21:39 <Supercheese> Vehicle.cpp lines 895-899 seem relevant 06:28:23 <Supercheese> I can't immediately see anything that would lead to the pattern described 06:46:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66CFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 06:46:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5DEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:59:34 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:59:59 <Pikka> I blame peter1138, naturally 08:00:04 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:01:48 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:12:06 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-19-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:56:27 <Terkhen> good morning 09:13:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:14:18 <andythenorth> bonsoir 09:14:26 <andythenorth> time for baby minding 09:14:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 09:14:35 <Supercheese> Well, that was quick 09:20:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:39:34 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-010-097.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 09:45:59 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 09:54:46 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-105-136.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 09:56:50 <peter1138> what 09:58:25 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 09:59:48 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-106-129.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:14:58 <DDR> Hey, guys, quickie question: 10:15:00 <DDR> Does anyone know of an editor that lets you have duplicates of an area, so that when you edit one instance of the area you edit them all? 10:21:16 <Supercheese> Sort of like search & replace in all/opened files? 10:21:32 <Supercheese> Or more of a side-by-side/tiled approach? 10:21:46 <Supercheese> Notepad++ can do side-by-side I think 10:22:59 <Supercheese> anyway, good night 10:23:07 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331]] 10:25:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6CDC2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:29:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19620.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:31:00 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 10:45:14 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host13-174-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:45:39 <Wolf01> hi o/ 10:53:07 <Wolf01> http://www.flickr.com/photos/34338074@N06/8486483945/ whoa, I had to check the bigger picture to figure out these engines are made out of lego 10:59:30 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:04:24 <Terkhen> hi Wolf01 11:08:04 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 11:10:14 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 11:14:19 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:15:15 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 11:17:28 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:19:23 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:25:30 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-092-078-248-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:27:01 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:30:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:34:54 <DDR> I actually meant graphically, like, for a .png or something. :P 11:35:29 <DDR> Not even inter-file, just within itself. I think it'd be useful for testing if my tiles... tile. 11:39:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00995a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:42:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 11:47:58 <jonty-comp> i think the GRFMaker pixel editor used to do that 11:49:09 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:49:14 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-172.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 11:49:41 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:54:01 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:54:04 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 11:54:23 <peter1138> meant but didn't specify :p 11:57:33 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:03:13 <Alberth> o/ 12:03:37 <andythenorth> hi Alberth 12:04:59 <Terkhen> hi Alberth and andythenorth 12:08:22 *** WOOHOO [~OOHOOW@46.166.178.162] has joined #openttd 12:08:22 <WOOHOO> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GML6KS1Gg4 12:08:23 *** WOOHOO [~OOHOOW@46.166.178.162] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:11:49 *** WOOHOO [~OOHOOW@46.166.178.162] has joined #openttd 12:11:50 *** WOOHOO [~OOHOOW@46.166.178.162] has quit [Killed (MoranServ (Possible spambot -- mail support@oftc.net with questions.))] 12:12:23 <jonty-comp> WOOHOO! 12:14:05 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 12:19:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19620.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:21:27 *** Pikka [~sammich@d58-106-19-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:21:58 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5DEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:22:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5DEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:28:27 <andythenorth> pikka o/ 12:31:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 12:40:25 <Pikka> where? 12:40:34 <andythenorth> over there 12:40:36 <andythenorth> on the stair 12:41:01 <Pikka> how rare 12:42:11 <Pikka> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-23/bus-crashes-into-brisbane-indian-restaurant/4535978 whoops 12:42:45 <andythenorth> mmm 12:42:46 <andythenorth> curry 12:42:59 <andythenorth> Pikka: you were driving? o_O 12:43:21 <Pikka> I never did anything that bad 12:44:42 <Pikka> worst thing I ever did was run into a stationary van full of coppers, while my trainer was a passenger on the bus :D 12:44:52 <andythenorth> oops :) 12:46:25 <andythenorth> Alberth: what credit line do you want on the footer of Web Translator? 12:46:34 <andythenorth> You? 12:46:37 <andythenorth> OpenTTD? 12:46:41 <andythenorth> OpenTTD Coop? 12:47:01 <Pikka> and trap a little girl's head between the back door and the ticket machine, but that was a design flaw in the bus. :) 12:47:01 <andythenorth> An OpenTTD project? 12:47:40 <Alberth> no idea, really. Currently it's newgrf translations only 12:48:11 <andythenorth> we are coop yes? 12:48:26 <Alberth> if you credit me, you should credit yourself too :) 12:48:33 <Alberth> coop is fine for me 12:48:35 <Pikka> coop :o 12:48:42 <andythenorth> chickens 12:48:55 <Pikka> nobody here but us 12:49:26 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:50:02 <Alberth> not any more :) 12:50:27 <andythenorth> should I make newgrfs? 12:51:20 <Pikka> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-23/train-passengers-trapped-in-wild-weather-for-17-hours/4535814 12:51:29 <Pikka> newdisasters 12:51:45 <Pikka> landslides and curry houses 12:51:53 <frosch123> wild weather.. pff 12:52:07 <frosch123> that's neither freezing cold, not > 40°C 12:52:18 <frosch123> db is far better with such situations 12:52:54 <andythenorth> spose I could add random ship graphics 12:52:57 <andythenorth> that needs doing :P 12:53:08 * Rubidium remembers those sauna ICEs 12:53:21 <Rubidium> apparantly people didn't like it 12:53:29 <frosch123> yeah, they collapsed 12:53:41 <frosch123> or tried to smash the windows at > 180 km/h and such :) 12:54:54 <Pikka> frosch: temperature is neither here nor there when you have 130km/h winds and a metre of rain in a day :) 12:55:20 <fonsinchen> What formula should I use to calculate the expected run time of a link graph job in ticks? 12:55:36 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:55:44 <frosch123> hmm, what's the current version of heqs? 12:56:11 <fonsinchen> 2^#nodes / big_static_number + other_static_number in theory 12:56:11 <Rubidium> frosch123: how about "latest" or "nice"? 12:56:42 <Pikka> "current" is good too 12:56:55 <frosch123> "most recent" according to topic 12:57:31 <andythenorth> frosch123: the one on Bananaananananaaa 12:57:32 <andythenorth> s 12:57:43 <Rubidium> fonsinchen: I'm not sure how well estimations would actually go; in fast forward they take more ticks, if it is a single core single thread CPU they take more ticks as well 12:57:53 <andythenorth> repo says HEQS 1.5.5 12:57:55 <andythenorth> 1.5.1 12:57:57 <andythenorth> oops 12:58:13 <andythenorth> that's over 12 months old :( 12:58:16 <Rubidium> fonsinchen: then there's also the issues with memory/cpu caches 12:58:17 <andythenorth> HEQS is dying! 12:58:42 <Rubidium> actually, if the repository is mercurial... then the most recent version is never a tagged version 12:58:48 <Pikka> too much bad rendering 12:58:54 <frosch123> ah, right.. i rememeber deleting my bananas folder 12:58:58 <frosch123> that's why i only have 1.2 :p 12:59:23 <andythenorth> old 12:59:29 <andythenorth> probly rubbish 12:59:39 <fonsinchen> Well, currently it's just "whatever you set as recalc_interval". That is about the worst estimation you can get. 12:59:41 <frosch123> it greeted me with a lot of "grf is broken" messages :) 12:59:57 <frosch123> so i wondered whether i broke something, or whether i just used the wrong version :) 13:01:33 <fonsinchen> But maybe I should keep it static after all. Like this I can just say "increase the interval" to anyone who runs into problems. Finding a working formula is probably very hard. 13:02:57 <fonsinchen> Has anyone ever had problems with the standard 16 days interval, btw? I remember that one guy who was playing the Cindini map with tons and tons of stations. 13:08:02 <Rubidium> fonsinchen: maybe, in single player without fast forward and pausing, you could detect that the recalc interval is overrun regularly and then suggest to increase the recalc time with some explanations of the repercussions 13:10:56 *** chester_ [~chester@128-69-39-125.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:19:09 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5DEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19:26 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:41 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:22:30 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5DEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:29 <fonsinchen> I'll stick to the configurable interval with default 16 days for now. The extra overrun detection can be done later. 13:33:46 <michi_cc> andy, andy, andy... ;) 13:36:09 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36:31 *** DrZoidzerg [~chris@124-148-133-35.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:37:39 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 13:39:43 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 13:45:40 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:52:04 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4db13582.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 14:01:38 *** Wolf03 [~wolf01@host49-232-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 14:01:38 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest18 14:01:38 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 14:07:01 *** Guest18 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:24 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:27:06 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:49:09 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:49:42 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:57:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5DEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 15:10:58 *** Trainz [4d560df6@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:11:00 <Trainz> hi 15:14:51 <Alberth> hi 15:21:48 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:22 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-092-078-248-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:22:43 *** Trainz [4d560df6@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:40:00 *** CAN [51b68084@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:40:17 <CAN> I finally get a working version of openttd to my Nokia Phone it's a version named r15770. I would like to connect it with my PC for online gaming but i'm having trouble to find a pc version of openttd r15770 ,anyone any idea where can i get it? 15:41:02 <frosch123> from svn 15:41:33 <frosch123> i doubt anyone has a 4 year old random nightly around 15:41:45 <frosch123> so you have to checkout that specific version from the source repository 15:41:48 <frosch123> and compile it yourself 15:46:02 *** wojteks86 [5db0e60d@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:47:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:49:25 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:50:19 <CAN> what is svn? 15:51:39 <Alberth> a version control system, keeping all 25036 versions that existed 15:51:49 <Alberth> look for "subversion" 15:54:10 <Alberth> andy, you didn't add static files yet? 15:57:05 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:35 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 16:02:36 <andythenorth> Alberth: not yet 16:02:43 <andythenorth> been trying to buy a car :P 16:02:51 <Alberth> :o 16:03:40 <frosch123> don't go for a crawler or rail vehicle, they are quite slow 16:04:14 <andythenorth> buying cars is....cold 16:04:22 <andythenorth> at least in February 16:04:41 <wojteks86> what car are you after? 16:04:50 <andythenorth> a big one 16:04:55 <Alberth> yeah, but since many people think that way, you can get a good bargain :) 16:04:57 <frosch123> likely a 10 truck-consist 16:05:01 <andythenorth> we have car seat problems 16:05:05 <andythenorth> car seats are big 16:05:28 <andythenorth> right, let's make some web translator 16:05:49 <wojteks86> any updates? been there today and no new strings for me :D 16:06:15 <frosch123> web translator != web translator :) 16:07:09 <wojteks86> I know what != is, but I dont understand you :P 16:07:36 <Alberth> wojteks86: if you're bored, translate the tutorial GS :) 16:08:00 <Alberth> not sure you can actually use that, perhaps check that first :) 16:08:31 <frosch123> english is a context sensitive language. if albert talks with andy about webtranslators, it's not wt3 which ottd-translators know :) 16:08:52 <wojteks86> yes, I would have to read the whole tutorial first, then try to translate :) but OK, where do I find the strings? or is it on the wiki? 16:09:12 <wojteks86> thanks frosch 16:09:28 <Alberth> wojteks86: I meant I am not sure you can use polish strings in a GS 16:09:38 <wojteks86> I see 16:09:55 <Alberth> strings are in the tar file, I think 16:09:56 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=57624 <- i don't know whether zuu is looking for translations 16:11:08 <Alberth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/gs-tutorial is the project page of the tutorial 16:11:10 <wojteks86> yep, there is no Polish translation yet 16:11:31 <wojteks86> been there, but was trying to go alphabetically through all the GRFs 16:11:38 <frosch123> :o 16:11:46 <Alberth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/gs-tutorial/repository/show/lang there is a german version 16:11:47 <andythenorth> Alberth: I'm not sure where to put the static declarations. Is there some kind of main class or dispatcher? 16:11:48 <wojteks86> so I did av8, then firs and few others 16:12:40 <Alberth> andythenorth: main.py is the main entry point 16:12:52 <Alberth> I import all page/* files there 16:16:45 <wojteks86> are you guys doing some work in c++ for OTTD? I have a question about window positioning 16:20:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:21:55 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:26 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:05 <Alberth> is /me working in c++ for OTTD a pre-condition for asking your question? 16:23:52 <Alberth> in that case, you're out of luck, I am reporting a bug at the moment, and then I'll do some Python program fixing 16:23:56 <wojteks86> probably yes, because it is related to the OTTD code, not generally c++ 16:24:00 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:24:08 <Alberth> but otherwise, just ask the question :) 16:24:25 <wojteks86> I must stop asking pre-questions... :P 16:25:06 <Alberth> that may help :) 16:25:07 <wojteks86> do you know how the window positioning works in OTTD? there are 4 cases: auto, manual, allign to toolbar and some other which I dont remember 16:25:37 <wojteks86> whatever I set in the code, seems to be ignored for windows but gui 16:26:14 <wojteks86> that means - if I change something from auto to allign to toolbar - it will work just as it did before the change 16:27:14 <Alberth> I suspect there are other conditions that must hold as well 16:27:46 <wojteks86> there are other attributes 16:28:04 <Alberth> toolbar alignment is typically done for direct child windows, but I don't know whether that is a requirement 16:28:39 <wojteks86> right, so how about manual? 16:29:03 <wojteks86> right after the position, there are x & y 16:29:20 <wojteks86> whatever they are (even 0,0 ) doesnt make any difference to the new window position 16:29:51 * Alberth looks for the source code 16:31:23 <wojteks86> check orders_gui.cpp for example 16:31:38 <wojteks86> WDP_AUTO 16:31:58 <Alberth> LocalGetWindowPlacement in windows.cpp does the magic (around line 1460) 16:34:25 <wojteks86> well, that was quick... 16:34:54 <Alberth> I know my way in the gui system, I rewrote most of it :) 16:35:23 <wojteks86> must have been a lot of work... 16:35:30 <wojteks86> if a lot is enough? 16:36:02 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:36:11 <Alberth> the orders gui has a WC_VEHICLE_VIEW parent it seems, so I would expect it takes the "if" above the "switch", ie it never even looks at the auto-thingie 16:36:27 <Alberth> you should check that with a debugger or so, 16:36:44 <andythenorth> Alberth: pull eints ;) 16:36:48 <wojteks86> right 16:36:59 <andythenorth> I have a new colour scheme 16:37:08 <Alberth> \o/ 16:37:12 <Alberth> let's see :) 16:38:21 <Alberth> hmm, very RED :) 16:38:34 <andythenorth> like it? :) 16:40:20 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/eints_red_projects_page.png <-- wojteks86, good colour for a web translator? :) 16:41:09 <wojteks86> I speak for myself - my eyes would pop out after w hile 16:41:43 <Alberth> I think you picked a wrong career andy, you should have become a fireman :) 16:41:49 <wojteks86> pale dark yellow would be fine 16:42:04 <wojteks86> :D 16:42:10 <andythenorth> Alberth: pull again :P 16:43:17 <Alberth> much better :) 16:43:47 <andythenorth> hmm 16:43:53 <andythenorth> got some problem finding site root 16:43:56 <frosch123> let me guess... black on black? 16:43:57 <andythenorth> in my static route 16:44:07 <andythenorth> Alberth: try going to some project 16:44:17 <andythenorth> there will be 404s for the static assets 16:44:48 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:56 <andythenorth> ah, found the solution 16:45:01 <Alberth> WDP_AUTO, 384, 100 <-- wojteks86 those numbers are default window size, they are not position 16:46:04 <wojteks86> I know, but I referred to another window using WDP_ other than auto and these values were set to 0 0 so I thought this may have something to do with it 16:47:20 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:51:12 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:51:22 <andythenorth> Alberth: need to use get_url, but can't get it to import http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9505256/static-files-not-loaded-in-a-bottle-application-when-the-trailing-slash-is-omitt 16:51:31 <andythenorth> ImportError: cannot import name get_url 16:52:36 <andythenorth> it is defined in bottle.py, so I am puzzled 16:53:43 *** Roach [~Informati@190.232.190.227] has joined #openttd 16:53:53 <Alberth> there is a lenghty discussion about this in the manual, bla and bla/ are different things according to the official definition 16:54:06 *** Roach [~Informati@190.232.190.227] has quit [] 16:54:14 <andythenorth> yes 16:54:23 <andythenorth> that would be uncontroversial 16:54:43 <andythenorth> what's puzzling is why I can't import get_url 16:56:53 *** tracerpt [4d565a37@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:57:06 <tracerpt> gd afternoon all 16:57:28 <Alberth> andythenorth: @Shawn: You should either supply it as a template argument (get_url=get_url in the call to template) <-- that comment? 16:57:37 <andythenorth> nah 16:57:45 <andythenorth> just importing to a class fails 16:57:49 <andythenorth> I don't get as far as template 16:58:02 <andythenorth> I'll paste 16:58:30 <andythenorth> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Y96SJkaf 16:58:33 <andythenorth> I cargo culted that 16:58:44 <andythenorth> ImportError: cannot import name get_url 16:59:02 <andythenorth> yet it's right there on l649 of bottle.py 16:59:14 <andythenorth> ho ho 16:59:23 <andythenorth> how long has '**kargs" been valid python :o 16:59:41 <andythenorth> that's new 17:00:19 <Alberth> url = make_default_app_wrapper('get_url') <-- it's called 'url' at global level, it seems 17:00:35 <Alberth> **args? a long time, I think 17:00:49 <andythenorth> url imports ok 17:01:02 <Alberth> but does it work? :) 17:02:34 <andythenorth> nope 17:02:45 <andythenorth> can't figure out how to expose it 17:07:40 <andythenorth> hmm 17:07:43 <andythenorth> might be onto something 17:08:48 <andythenorth> how intreseting 17:09:47 <Alberth> @route('/static/<filename:path>') 17:09:47 <Alberth> def send_static(filename): 17:09:47 <Alberth> return static_file(filename, root='static/files') 17:10:27 <andythenorth> I've solved it by importing url to main_template.tpl 17:10:35 <andythenorth> didn't know I could import directly to templates :) 17:11:36 <Alberth> my solution looks wrong, tbh 17:12:34 <Alberth> very nice :) 17:13:27 <Alberth> b/webtranslate/static.py <-- seems to import a bit too much? :) 17:14:44 <andythenorth> probably 17:15:22 <andythenorth> stripped 17:19:31 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:20:35 * Alberth time for dinner 17:20:43 <wojteks86> enjoy 17:23:31 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 17:25:43 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:54:41 <andythenorth> Alberth: pull ;) 17:55:57 *** kormer [~kormer@c-68-55-166-242.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:26 <Kjetil> push! 18:02:04 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-092-078-248-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:15 *** codl [~codl@codl.fr] has joined #openttd 18:08:09 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:11:33 *** wojteks86 [5db0e60d@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:11:54 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:11:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:26:45 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:33:28 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:37:11 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:43:40 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:48:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:49:03 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49:36 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:50:10 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-12-141.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:50:27 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:55:34 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:06:00 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25037 trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp (2013-02-23 18:15:54 UTC) 19:06:01 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5480]: green path signals would be shown when building them 'under' a train, and they would keep showing green until they were passed again 19:08:13 <__ln__> a grocery nearby me is selling norwegian salmon filet, and they've labeled all the packages with a label saying "does not contain horse meat" 19:10:50 <Alberth> so you've asked about mad cow disease, right? 19:10:58 <Psyk> I like horses! In sausages for example... 19:11:46 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-092-078-248-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11:52 <Alberth> you need a LOT of sauce to put a horse in it! 19:12:27 <Rubidium> how can they be sure? maybe the fish were fed horses in some way 19:13:56 <frosch123> Psyk: put a big label on them "contains horse meat" 19:14:28 <__ln__> btw, the same grocery sells horse meat. 19:15:50 <frosch123> ah, so there are two big arrows just after the entry? "horse stuff left, everything else right"? 19:18:30 <__ln__> more like they're making fun of the whole issue by labeling the fish 19:19:08 <Rubidium> not "free range 'beef' left", "bio industry beef right"? 19:20:00 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25038 trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp (2013-02-23 18:29:55 UTC) 19:20:01 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5479]: minimise gaps feature caused removal to only happen at the signal build interval instead of the implicit interval of 1 19:22:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19620.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:38 <tracerpt> lol psyk 19:25:48 <tracerpt> i want a lasagna from findus :( 19:26:00 <tracerpt> always wanted to own a share of a racing horse :| 19:26:04 <frosch123> cat lasagna? 19:26:54 <frosch123> hmm, i think cat meat in lasagna would be quite entertaining 19:27:08 <frosch123> where can i start such business? 19:27:19 <Psyk> its said, that cat meat is a bit sweet... 19:31:59 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:34:06 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:35:39 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25039 /trunk/src/lang (5 files in 2 dirs) (2013-02-23 18:45:28 UTC) 19:35:40 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 19:35:41 <DorpsGek> english_US - 3 changes by Rubidium 19:35:42 <DorpsGek> korean - 6 changes by telk5093 19:35:43 <DorpsGek> russian - 1 changes by Lone_Wolf 19:35:44 <DorpsGek> gaelic - 334 changes by GunChleoc 19:35:45 <DorpsGek> swedish - 2 changes by Joel_A 19:40:52 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has joined #openttd 19:43:16 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43:30 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:43:41 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has joined #openttd 19:45:20 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:51:36 <tracerpt> how long have u guys been working on TTD mods? 19:52:26 <Rubidium> does "too" count? 19:55:34 <tracerpt> too? 19:56:09 * Alberth likes the nav bar 19:59:09 <andythenorth> fixing some forms 20:00:21 <andythenorth> Alberth: would be really useful to figure out how to automatically reload classes / templates ;) 20:00:31 <andythenorth> writing html + css is very slow with restart for every change :) 20:01:53 <Alberth> http://bottlepy.org/docs/stable/tutorial.html#auto-reloading ??? 20:05:03 <andythenorth> I added that to main.py 20:05:04 <andythenorth> bottle.run(reloader=True, host='localhost', port=8000) 20:05:10 <andythenorth> doesn't seem to reload templates 20:05:29 <andythenorth> ah 20:05:35 <andythenorth> debug mode should do template reloading 20:06:49 <andythenorth> works 20:06:58 <Alberth> we already do that, don't we? 20:08:07 <andythenorth> seems not :) 20:08:07 <andythenorth> I just pushed it 20:11:10 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:14:12 <Alberth> please pull 20:18:15 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18:48 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:36 *** Superuser [~superuser@host81-129-133-93.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:29:09 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:21 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 20:31:18 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:35:14 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:39:46 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:44:18 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:45:38 <andythenorth> Alberth: what changed in upload_lang? 20:45:47 <andythenorth> I made lots of styling changes there :) 20:45:50 <andythenorth> need to merge 20:46:13 <Alberth> removed <label for="is_existing">Language already exists in the project:</label> <input type="checkbox" name="is_existing" id="is_existing" /><br /> 20:46:48 <Alberth> as it was not used :) 20:47:11 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db13582.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:48:48 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:09 <andythenorth> hmm 20:50:10 <andythenorth> merge hassles 20:51:46 <andythenorth> oops 20:51:51 <andythenorth> hg up --clean is bad 20:52:06 <andythenorth> oh well, I'll just rewrite all that code again :) 20:53:51 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-105-136.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:19 <Alberth> always do a "hg diff > my.patch" first before doing anything dangerous :) 20:55:16 *** CAN [51b68084@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:55:21 <andythenorth> I love distributed vcs :P 20:57:19 <jonty-comp> aww, there's nothing in NARS in 1927 to carry livestock 21:04:51 <Superuser> #openttd - what is YOUR favourite Linux text editor? No Emacs or Vim allowed! (looking for a good *modern* text editor) 21:05:33 <__ln__> eFTE... modern, umm, well, for some values of modern. 21:05:44 <peter1138> erm, vim 21:05:47 <jonty-comp> clearly nano 21:05:50 <Superuser> must have CUA 21:05:54 <Alberth> Superuser: just try a few 21:05:59 <Superuser> and code folding (so gedit is out) 21:06:10 <__ln__> what's CUA? 21:06:18 <Superuser> Common User Access, have you never used Emacs? 21:06:19 <Alberth> CIA with a U 21:06:24 <__ln__> rarely 21:06:26 <Superuser> I'm just tired of emacs' 1980s BS 21:06:31 <Superuser> same goes for Vim 21:06:44 <peter1138> you need a mouse eh? 21:06:52 <Superuser> anyone know good graphical text editors? Everyone loves nano ofc (me included) 21:06:58 <jonty-comp> if i am doing proper development of anything i use sublime text 2 21:06:59 <jonty-comp> that's awesome 21:07:00 <Superuser> but I need something more advanced, with code folding etc 21:07:24 <peter1138> i use vim, vim or vim 21:07:25 <__ln__> Superuser: see eFTE. 21:07:28 <Superuser> You know I've heard amazing things about that, but the price seems a bit steep for a development tool. If it was a compiler it would be justified, but... 21:07:38 <jonty-comp> oh, i didn't pay for it :P 21:07:51 <jonty-comp> the 'evaluation' is fully featured and has no time limit 21:08:00 <jonty-comp> it just pops up when you save every ~5 times 21:08:16 <Superuser> rotfl really? 21:08:25 <Superuser> well that's silly 21:08:29 <jonty-comp> oh, sublime text 3 is in beta :o 21:08:36 <Superuser> thanks __ln__, I'll check it out 21:08:51 <Superuser> looks pretty good, X11 interface so should be fast 21:14:47 <frosch123> during kde3 times i used kate 21:14:58 <frosch123> which had code folding though i never liked such a thing 21:15:28 <Superuser> Kate is a brilliant editor 21:15:33 <frosch123> at the beginning of kde4 every application including kate turned into a hitting-a-wrong-key-crashes-it-all thing 21:15:36 <Superuser> (only ever used kde4) 21:15:44 * ToBeFree loves Kate, just saying 21:15:45 <frosch123> no idea at what state kde4 is nowadays 21:15:50 <frosch123> but since then i have been using geany 21:16:01 <Superuser> But the first time I tried it was at v4.6 (first time I tried Linux seriously, too!), so I missed the KDE4 fiasco 21:16:03 <frosch123> it has no code folding at my side, but maybe i disabled it :p 21:16:24 <Superuser> the best DE after Unity, easily 21:16:31 <jonty-comp> :( 21:16:53 <Superuser> Unity's HUD is a killer app for me, plus I like the idea of 1 thing on the screen at a time 21:17:02 <Superuser> for some reason I can't use GNOME Shell to save my life, lol 21:17:14 <jonty-comp> i enjoyed gnome shell on my old tablet PC 21:17:26 <jonty-comp> unity makes baby jesus cry 21:17:39 <Superuser> only ever used it on the desktop 21:17:42 <jonty-comp> that said, i plan on installing ubuntu on my tablet when they eventually make it work properly 21:17:44 <Superuser> what do you use jonty-comp 21:17:56 <jonty-comp> on my desktop? windows :P 21:18:02 <Superuser> rotfl 21:18:06 <Superuser> get outta here 21:18:18 <jonty-comp> i'm allowed to though, i run 15 debian servers 21:18:31 <Superuser> needs moar desktop linux 21:18:32 <jonty-comp> and an office of windows/mac workstations 21:18:41 <Superuser> also Debian sucks, so out of date 21:18:47 <jonty-comp> we used to have one desktop linux pc that was a crappy old tower that we had nothing else to do with 21:18:51 <jonty-comp> but nobody other than me used it 21:19:00 <jonty-comp> so i threw it out and put two old powermacs there instead 21:19:05 <jonty-comp> at least people can use photoshop on them 21:19:09 <Superuser> freedom hater :P 21:19:29 <jonty-comp> i will use linux on desktop when someone invents a DE that doesn't make me want to kill baby gerbils 21:19:45 <Superuser> KDE + Unity, go! 21:20:04 <jonty-comp> next ubuntu on my desktop will probably be xfcebunto 21:20:06 <jonty-comp> *u 21:20:07 <andythenorth> powermacs are so dead :) 21:20:09 <Superuser> I actually removed the Windows partition for good 2 days ago 21:20:16 <Superuser> never been happier :) 21:20:32 <jonty-comp> andythenorth: but they look like Mac Pros, so they impress people that come in the office 21:20:38 <andythenorth> :P 21:20:39 <jonty-comp> so long as they don't actually *use* them 21:20:48 <Superuser> Xfce sucks donkey penis http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/comparison-of-linux-desktops-opengl.html 21:20:54 <jonty-comp> then they'll realise that they're huge, loud, power-hogging piles of shite 21:21:30 <Superuser> lol your workplace sounds awesome 21:21:44 <jonty-comp> we have two brand-new iMacs too, they're somewhat nicer 21:22:26 <jonty-comp> actually, i haven't used E17 for a long time, i should try that out again 21:24:13 <Superuser> E17 is dickballs 21:24:20 <Superuser> it crashed X ffs 21:24:25 <Superuser> never used it since 21:24:30 <Alberth> opengl for desktops is insane 21:24:31 <Superuser> that was 1.5 years ago 21:24:44 <Superuser> probably not much better now, even though it's out of alpha 21:25:58 <peter1138> it works but doesn't fit in with anything 21:26:08 <Superuser> hey who was the guy who recommended eFTE? 21:26:21 <__ln__> who, me? 21:26:30 <Superuser> this thing doesn't support Unicode 21:26:44 <__ln__> aren't you in england? 21:26:54 <peter1138> £ 21:26:55 <Superuser> does that mean I'm British? 21:26:57 <__ln__> besides, i said: 22:15 < __ln__> eFTE... modern, umm, well, for some values of modern. 21:27:19 <Superuser> 45% of London classified itself as White British 21:27:21 <Superuser> disgusting 21:27:24 <jonty-comp> peter1138: for political correctness you must now use ⬠21:27:25 <Superuser> Which is why I'm leaving 21:27:38 <Superuser> not living in London though 21:27:44 <peter1138> why is that disgusting? 21:27:46 <Superuser> that figure is from the 2012 census btw 21:27:51 <__ln__> they can't classify themselves as black british if they're white, can they? 21:27:59 <Superuser> because the majority of them don't fit in, they are black or muslim 21:28:11 <Superuser> no, it's illegal to lie on it 21:28:11 <jonty-comp> actually, i should install ubuntu on this desktop 21:28:17 <jonty-comp> it would be most useful 21:28:23 <__ln__> let me correct myself: *african american british 21:28:28 <jonty-comp> but do I do it in virtualbox or as a partition? 21:28:43 <peter1138> don't install ubuntu 21:28:45 <peter1138> much simpler 21:28:51 <Psyk> install mint! 21:28:53 <Superuser> Americans of course don't understand the issue of the Ageing of Europe, they've always been in a multicultural country (where multiculturalism doesn't work) 21:29:31 <peter1138> the issue of what? 21:29:33 <__ln__> Superuser: who needs Unicode, 8-bit charsets ought to be enough for anyone. 21:29:54 <Superuser> people who use non-Latin characters in their folder names, for one 21:30:05 <Superuser> they don't come up 21:30:11 <__ln__> non-Latin doesn't necessarily imply Unicode. 21:30:42 <__ln__> but I agree, the lack of Unicode support is eFTE's greatest disadvantage. 21:31:30 <Rubidium> Superuser: I reckon you use non Latin characters in folder names as well 21:31:43 <Rubidium> starting with the "u" 21:32:05 <Superuser> x---D 21:32:08 <Superuser> non-ASCII then 21:33:00 <__ln__> i don't think eFTE has a problem with non-ASCII per se, it just doesn't handle UTF-8. 21:33:46 <frosch123> can it handle "§" ? 21:33:58 <frosch123> or does it crash like the average dos application? 21:35:26 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-172.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:35:28 <__ln__> crashing dos apps with § is news to me 21:36:03 <frosch123> it's because in the dos codepage § was a character < 32 21:36:10 <frosch123> i.e. technically not ascii, but a control char 21:36:28 <frosch123> most applications did not expect that there are keyboards which allow entering such things 21:36:34 <__ln__> oh 21:36:49 *** chester_ [~chester@128-69-39-125.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36:52 <Alberth> your keyboard does not allow \n ? :) 21:37:06 <frosch123> only \r 21:37:13 <frosch123> and \t 21:37:35 <peter1138> and ^A, ^B, ^C... 22:10:15 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 22:14:20 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 22:36:35 <glx> <jonty-comp> but do I do it in virtualbox or as a partition? <-- latest ubuntu is dead slow in virtual box 22:41:45 <jonty-comp> oh 22:41:54 <jonty-comp> good job i started installing it on a partition then 22:42:04 <jonty-comp> i can load the physical device up in virtualbox if i want to anyway 22:42:07 <jonty-comp> unless they broke that 22:44:03 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:44:51 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:49:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19620.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19ED7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:10:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CA48.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:12:29 <jonty-comp> i have to admit, ubuntu + unity has gotten a lot better since the last time i used it 23:12:38 <jonty-comp> i still hate the default window decorations though 23:12:51 <jonty-comp> at least the whole UI isn't overpoweringly purple any more 23:16:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6CDC2.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:41 *** DabuYu [~jkuckartz@128.250.79.165] has joined #openttd 23:22:33 *** tracerpt [4d565a37@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 23:26:00 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 23:33:43 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:34:33 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00995a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:32 <jonty-comp> so many package updates