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00:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause> you use too many of the wrong callbacks? 00:01:54 *** Pokka [~Octomom@d58-106-19-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:02:00 <Supercheese> don't call distance to nearest town all the time, that's cpu-intensive IIRC 00:02:32 <Supercheese> Not that I expect you're doing that, but still 00:12:39 <Eddi|zuHause> well the industry could cache that value 00:13:00 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not like the distance to towns changes very often :p 00:13:14 <Supercheese> Sure, I'm not an expert on industry stuffs :) 00:16:49 <Eddi|zuHause> it's just few steps needed: 1) add a new member to the industry struct, 2) fill it with a value on industry funding, 3) fill it with the value in afterloadgame, 4) return the value in the newgrf code, 5( recalculate all the values on funding a town 00:19:20 <Bad_Brett> Eddi: probably some wrong callbacks 00:22:09 <Bad_Brett> or too simply too many animations... 00:23:39 <Bad_Brett> the CPU is at 0% on the z1 and z2 zoom levels where the sprites are much smaller 00:43:05 <Eddi|zuHause> so your sprite cache is too small? 00:49:06 *** Celestar_ [~vici@mnch-4d04f128.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 00:54:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18F80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:56:08 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-4d04d0a1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:10:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18F80.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:17:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:23:47 *** ST2 is now known as xT2 01:29:44 <Bad_Brett> Hmm... perhaps... i have very little knowledge in those things 01:34:49 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-045-191.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 01:52:50 <Eddi|zuHause> the sprite cache is in openttd.cfg 01:53:01 <Eddi|zuHause> double this number until the problems stop 01:56:00 *** cerzi [~cerzi@188-220-240-36.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:33:19 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:53:08 <Bad_Brett> really? had no idea 02:53:11 <Bad_Brett> i will try it, thanks 02:55:25 <Bad_Brett> nice! it works 03:01:54 *** Devedse [~Devedse@cable-125-91.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 03:04:50 *** Pokka [~Octomom@d58-106-19-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:06:51 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 03:43:45 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 04:11:36 *** Biolunar__ [~mahdi@blfd-4db0f55c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 04:18:43 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4db137a3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:20:06 *** tracerpt [5766760b@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 04:21:30 <tracerpt> aloha :D 04:27:56 <Bad_Brett> hello tracerpt 04:35:07 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:0:6979:842d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:35:26 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:0:6979:842d] has joined #openttd 04:54:18 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host109-145-49-167.range109-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 05:05:33 *** ccfreak2k_ [~ccfreak2k@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:0:6979:842d] has joined #openttd 05:05:36 <tracerpt> hi 05:07:25 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:0:6979:842d] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07:26 *** ccfreak2k_ is now known as ccfreak2k 06:06:12 *** tracerpt [5766760b@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 06:31:22 *** Pikka [~sammich@d58-106-19-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4CDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 06:46:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67AA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:19:47 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 08:15:20 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:17:03 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:18:01 <Terkhen> good morning 08:23:27 <andythenorth> hi hi 08:26:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:27:33 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 09:04:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:11:30 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:11:33 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:23:40 *** kero [~keikoz@131.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 09:28:58 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:30:18 *** Lo [~johannes@HSI-KBW-095-208-007-166.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 09:30:59 <Lo> Hey, one question: For the next titlegame competition, can I also use non-standard trains (newgrf)? 09:34:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:35:24 <Alberth> no 09:35:36 <Alberth> also, we have a different competition this year 09:35:39 <Alberth> hi andy 09:35:49 <Lo> oh, okay, what's it about? :) 09:35:51 <andythenorth> morning 09:36:51 <andythenorth> so what should FIRS Tropic economy be? 09:36:54 <andythenorth> - self-contained industrial economy, meeting all basic needs? Or totally dependent on extracting cheap raw materials and exporting them, in exchange for high-value goods from overseas? 09:37:03 <andythenorth> or lol? 09:37:12 <Supercheese> Add a distillery 09:37:16 <Supercheese> rum rum rum 09:37:26 <Supercheese> also: pirates 09:37:34 <andythenorth> Supercheese: that is for 'Tropical Island' economy 09:37:37 <andythenorth> which will come later :P 09:37:49 <Supercheese> Arrrr 09:38:34 <Alberth> the second option would be nicely different from other economies, imho 09:39:19 <andythenorth> kind of politically repressive? 09:39:22 <andythenorth> meh 09:39:24 <Alberth> especially when 'export' can be done at a few places only ;) 09:40:38 <Lo> @Alberth Can you please tell me of that contest topic? :) 09:41:06 <andythenorth> I'll think on 09:41:11 <andythenorth> I think it needs a ranch 09:41:15 <andythenorth> biab 09:41:21 <Alberth> I don't know the details, sorry. I thought it was already postedm but I cannot find it 09:42:15 <Lo> Okay, thanks anyway... Looking forward to 1.3, really! 09:46:28 *** Lo [~johannes@HSI-KBW-095-208-007-166.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:00:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00b8cf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:10:01 <andythenorth> so I am thinking it makes more sense for FIRS Tropic to be mostly self-contained 10:10:15 <andythenorth> I can do an 'Export' economy separately 10:10:25 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-064-158.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:11:14 <andythenorth> problem is, it's not interesting :P 10:12:06 <andythenorth> where is tropic? Australia? North Africa? Texas? 10:12:11 <andythenorth> Sub-Arctic is easy :P 10:14:09 <andythenorth> India? 10:14:16 <andythenorth> Brazil? 10:14:34 <andythenorth> Iraq? 10:14:43 <andythenorth> Thailand? 10:18:01 <andythenorth> no takers :) 10:18:16 <frosch123> tropic is south-america 10:18:39 <frosch123> it's defined by rubber, fruit and gold (hmm, or diamonds?) 10:19:11 <andythenorth> k 10:19:18 <andythenorth> I don't need realism, just a starting point 10:19:40 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:19:59 <andythenorth> hmm 10:20:09 <andythenorth> fruit straight to a port? Or to a processor that produces food? 10:23:08 <Supercheese> good night 10:23:17 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331]] 10:32:15 <andythenorth> hmm 10:32:33 <andythenorth> fish is a big export for some tropical nations 10:33:57 <frosch123> maybe ports should accept one primary, one secondary and one ternary cargo 10:34:10 <frosch123> so, decide fruit/food depending on what slot is left? 10:36:29 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-19-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:36:48 <Pikka> that's because 10:37:21 <andythenorth> import pikka 10:37:23 <andythenorth> export pixels 10:37:43 <Pikka> andythenorth: I think minimising the differences between the climates is a good idea 10:38:04 * frosch123 wouild have said the reverse :p 10:38:04 <andythenorth> hmm 10:38:08 <andythenorth> me too :) 10:38:45 <Pikka> coming up with three/four "different" yet complete and interesting industry schemes is for the horses 10:38:55 <andythenorth> ho ho :) 10:38:58 <andythenorth> that's what I'm doing 10:39:27 <Pikka> time-and-effort-wastey 10:39:41 <Pikka> 99% of made-up people only play temperate anyway 10:40:09 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:40:14 <andythenorth> so these are 'economies' via parameter 10:40:27 <andythenorth> they're not sensitive to the climate 10:40:33 <Pikka> also I demand FIRS-toyland :] 10:40:55 <andythenorth> I have called 3 of the economies Temperate, Arctic and Tropic 10:40:58 <Pikka> I should be making all my vehicles available in toyland 10:41:00 <andythenorth> to ensure I get a good number of bug reports 10:41:11 <Pikka> climate 07 is a bad habit 10:41:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D87C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:41:40 <andythenorth> 0x00 10:41:43 <andythenorth> easier 10:41:49 <Pikka> I have called two of my 10CC sets "tropical" and "alpine" D; 10:42:38 *** kero [~keikoz@131.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 10:44:15 <andythenorth> winner :) 10:44:19 <andythenorth> I think that's good 10:44:33 <andythenorth> shall I do a Pineapple economy 10:44:46 <andythenorth> exports: pineapple, minerals, hydrocarbons 10:45:03 <andythenorth> imports: truck drivers, british expats, software 10:49:22 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-172.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 10:50:41 <andythenorth> ho ho 10:50:46 <andythenorth> tropic without oil 10:50:57 <andythenorth> that's going to work nicely 10:51:41 <NGC3982> Morning. 10:53:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D87C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:58:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D87C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:02:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host49-232-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:03:02 <Wolf01> hello o/ 11:04:55 <Pikka> exports: bogans 11:05:00 <Pikka> imports: fully sick rims mate 11:05:27 <andythenorth> heh 11:05:42 <andythenorth> imports: powerboats, jet skis 11:06:03 <andythenorth> exports: episodic TV 11:06:17 <andythenorth> hmm, TV Studio industry 11:06:20 <andythenorth> or Media industry 11:06:27 <Pikka> nah, they make neighbours in melbourne :) 11:06:29 <andythenorth> exports: diminutive media barons 11:06:33 *** mseidl_ [~aaa@p5DCE77F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:06:39 <andythenorth> oh yeah, you're QLD only :P 11:06:52 <Pikka> well melbourne isn't exactly pineapple territory :P 11:07:28 <andythenorth> I wonder if I can make a sane economy consisting only of ports 11:07:39 <Pikka> trans-port tycoon? 11:07:52 <andythenorth> yup 11:08:15 <andythenorth> oh how we larfed 11:08:38 <andythenorth> UKRS 2 without all the extras, ftw 11:08:40 <andythenorth> btw 11:08:46 <Pikka> yes 11:09:05 <andythenorth> played it last night 11:09:15 <andythenorth> think it's done 11:09:51 <andythenorth> pretty nice 11:10:55 <andythenorth> frosch123: your shiny new subtype refit... 11:11:01 <andythenorth> makes me want to add more subtypes ;) 11:11:56 <frosch123> i thought views are the new kid in town 11:14:12 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:18:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 11:22:54 <Eddi|zuHause> well "views" would be available on the purchase menu, so you could alter the articulated callback 11:24:41 <__ln__> survey for people in euro countries: how often do you have at least one 100⬠bill in your wallet? 1) always, 2) every week, 3) every month, 4) every year, 5) every 10 years? 11:25:02 <__ln__> (having 2x50⬠doesn't count) 11:26:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i certainly had one this year 11:27:02 <Eddi|zuHause> so around 4-ish 11:27:41 <__ln__> i have one now and had one in 2002... so 5-ish 11:36:05 <Pikka> and why wouldn't you 11:36:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:38:14 <Eddi|zuHause> it probably depends how often you do larger (>100â¬) transactions in cash. there's bound to be a 100⬠bill in there every now and then 11:39:30 <__ln__> you don't get 100⬠bills from ATMs over here (finland), so they are quite rare in many people's everyday life.. and card payments are commonly used for big transactions in particular. 11:39:34 <andythenorth> frosch123: views are vapourware, no? 11:40:12 *** tycoondemon [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 11:40:23 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: pretty much :) 11:40:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B922.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:40:59 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: although, strictly, that would mean there was a release day proposed :p 11:42:32 <frosch123> __ln__: you get 100⬠at ATM here if you get bigger amounts 11:42:54 <frosch123> but i never need such amounts in cash 11:43:18 <frosch123> i only pay stuff < 30⬠in cash 11:43:31 <frosch123> i.e. food 11:44:41 <frosch123> but yeah, i believe i have had more 500⬠than 100â¬, and i cannot remember having had a 200⬠one 11:45:45 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 11:46:38 <Eddi|zuHause> you had an actual 500â¬? 11:46:46 <Eddi|zuHause> only drug dealers have those :p 11:46:46 <NGC3982> I have barely seen Euro currency. 11:46:50 <frosch123> i sold a car some years ago in cache 11:46:53 <frosch123> *cash 11:47:06 <frosch123> so i had around 3000⬠in cash, mostly 500â¬, some 50⬠11:47:20 <NGC3982> 500€ bills seems very risky. 11:47:40 <NGC3982> I would never use them. Although, i never use cash at all. 11:47:41 <Eddi|zuHause> why would they be more risky than others? 11:47:54 <Psyk> and most of them have cocain remains on them :D 11:48:02 <NGC3982> Same risk, higher value. 11:48:05 <frosch123> hmm, oh, and i believe i had to pay my kitchen in cash 11:48:22 <Psyk> btw. hello 11:48:40 <NGC3982> I guess i talk for myself when i say that cash is kind of stupid. 11:48:59 <frosch123> it's faster for small amounts :) 11:50:30 <frosch123> e.g. in supermarkets: most people avoid lines with people who buy a big pile of stuff. but i think payment takes longest independent of the amount you buy, so i prefer to take the line with the least people, indepenent of how much they buy 11:50:35 <__ln__> it's not even faster if the card payment terminal is a good one. (many aren't) 11:51:09 <andythenorth> is it germany where nobody uses cards? 11:51:18 <andythenorth> someone went there recently and was telling me about it 11:51:30 <frosch123> andythenorth: noone uses credit cards. we use bank transfers for everything 11:51:50 <frosch123> but in the execution it is somewhat the same i think 11:52:22 <peter1138> somewhat completely different 11:52:51 <andythenorth> so what is this 'view's thing anyway o_O 11:53:00 <__ln__> i spend less than 50⬠in cash per month. 32⬠of that goes to recharging local traffic bus card. 11:53:17 <frosch123> i buy all food in cash 11:53:31 <frosch123> including restaurants 11:53:44 <peter1138> i hardly ever use cash 11:54:31 <peter1138> i've got about £5 in my wallet which has been there a couple of months 11:54:32 <andythenorth> hmm 11:54:34 <frosch123> paying by card in restaurant would be beyond weird unless you pay for a > 20 people party 11:54:40 <andythenorth> I need to compile FIRS. Better plug my laptop in 11:55:17 <peter1138> i've paid by card for payments less than £2 11:55:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i guess about 50% of the times i pay in cash in the supermarket or the gas station 11:55:44 <__ln__> even Lidl accepts credit cards here 11:55:57 <Eddi|zuHause> places usually have rules that card payments must be 10⬠or more 11:55:57 <peter1138> garages have pay-at-pump so no cash needed there 11:56:09 <frosch123> i would guess about 20% pay with card in supermarkets 11:56:35 <andythenorth> oops 11:56:40 <andythenorth> forgot my virtualenv :P 11:56:42 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 12:00:20 <ZxBiohazardZx> would it be hard to create tunnels similar to bridges (flat land tunnels)? 12:00:32 *** tycoondemon [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:00:38 <ZxBiohazardZx> nvm 12:01:49 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has left #openttd [] 12:02:01 * MNIM would like to know this as well 12:02:29 <peter1138> judging by how many people have done it... 12:09:43 <Eddi|zuHause> so the more people have done something, the easier it must be? 12:09:54 <Eddi|zuHause> that means daylength is the easiest patch out there! 12:10:10 <Wolf01> lol 12:10:23 <frosch123> no, there more people have done something, the least they thought before starting coding 12:10:29 <peter1138> :-) 12:17:07 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host109-145-49-167.range109-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:19:54 <andythenorth> V453000: you might like this write up http://tweeaffect.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/just-imagine-but-how.html 12:24:51 <andythenorth> hmm 12:24:59 <andythenorth> is it lame to have two kinds of port in a basic economy? 12:25:12 <andythenorth> 2 out of 18 industries would be ports :P 12:27:55 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 12:32:16 <frosch123> what would be their names? 12:32:26 <andythenorth> port and port 12:32:28 <andythenorth> :P 12:32:31 <andythenorth> it's a bad idea 12:33:50 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:35:59 <andythenorth> hmm 12:36:05 <Pikka> port A and port B 12:36:08 <andythenorth> "sheep farm" -> "Llama Ranch" 12:36:12 <andythenorth> "Alpaca Ranch" 12:36:20 <andythenorth> ? 12:36:21 <andythenorth> :P 12:36:38 <frosch123> maybe divide the map into north and south 12:36:47 <frosch123> and make ports only appear on one half :p 12:37:09 <andythenorth> seems every economy has livestock and the meat packer industry 12:37:14 <andythenorth> [shrug] 12:39:49 <V453000> andythenorth: I LIKE THE EXCESSIVE USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS 12:40:04 <andythenorth> IT'S FUNNY 12:40:11 <V453000> YES 12:40:24 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/refitree.png <- better? 12:40:34 <V453000> also that head in the bottom right is going to haunt me in nightmares now 12:40:47 <V453000> that yellow lego face is beyond batshit creepy 12:40:57 <V453000> frosch123: excellent :) 12:41:09 <andythenorth> V453000: I have that in my house 12:41:10 <andythenorth> hmm 12:42:42 <V453000> like standing in the house? 12:42:53 <V453000> I expect a giant figure in a size of average human 12:43:15 <V453000> maybe double size to guarantee wtf value 12:44:08 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: your subtype strings miss the mandatory space at the beginning 12:44:23 <frosch123> V453000's fault 12:44:30 <andythenorth> V453000: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3887/head.jpg 12:44:46 <andythenorth> oh 12:44:48 <andythenorth> colours :o 12:45:18 <V453000> andythenorth: :DD 12:45:27 <Eddi|zuHause> either the lego figures got bigger or the kods got smaller... :p 12:45:30 <frosch123> oh... now i figured out where all that horse meat lasagna comes from... 12:45:31 <V453000> btw the colours are in NUTS for _AGES_ :P 12:45:31 <andythenorth> that is what a child neglected for TTD looks like :P 12:45:39 <V453000> :D 12:46:06 <frosch123> the mafia has only use for the heads, so they need to get rid of the left-over horse 12:47:43 <Pikka> A7V is it 12:48:06 <andythenorth> 7 planes? 12:48:09 <Pikka> there's only one surviving A7V and it's in Brisbane, for reasons I've never understood 12:48:13 <Pikka> german WWI tank 12:48:31 <andythenorth> survivor of the famous australian tank battle of 1952 12:48:33 <Pikka> I don't think it's on display any more, it's somewhere in the basement of the Queensland Museum 12:48:41 <andythenorth> moar tanks 12:48:41 <__ln__> omg, did germans get as far as australia 12:48:50 <andythenorth> yes they invaded austrlalia 7 times 12:49:09 * andythenorth predicts godwin 12:49:32 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: WWI involved all german colonies, of course :p 12:49:38 <andythenorth> also your Tropic economy will mostly be farms 12:49:46 <andythenorth> this is ok, no yes 12:49:47 <andythenorth> ? 12:50:21 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: farm->port, and make all secondary industries funding-only? 12:50:37 <__ln__> andythenorth: i don't think godwin applies to WWI. 12:51:45 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: so they did not research that guy who makes colonies independent from wars in europe, and make them always offer peace for money? 12:52:09 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: yeah... 12:54:38 <Pikka> andythenorth, I agree very much with these bolgs 12:55:28 <Pikka> particularly the bits about steampunk being crap 12:56:47 <andythenorth> I invented steampunk once 12:56:52 <andythenorth> before I knew it was a thing 12:57:00 <Pikka> :) 12:57:20 <andythenorth> I went to a sugarcane mill in mauritius 12:57:25 <andythenorth> it basically was steam punk, for real 12:57:57 <Pikka> __ln__, during WWI, there was a colony of Germany and a colony of Queensland which were neighbours. but there was no fighting and definitely no tanks, it's not really tank terrain. 12:58:34 <Pikka> hmm 12:58:40 <andythenorth> also india punk 12:58:40 <Pikka> actually, there was fighting, it seems 12:58:42 <Pikka> but no tanks :) 12:58:50 <andythenorth> india is basically diesel punk, propane punk... 12:58:56 <andythenorth> and manual labour punk 12:58:57 <frosch123> does squid 2 feature a steam hovercraft? 12:59:07 <Pikka> how rare 12:59:17 <andythenorth> frosch123: it could 12:59:20 <andythenorth> but it won't :P 12:59:42 <frosch123> steam powered unicorns? 13:00:46 <Pikka> the New Guinea campaign of WWI... 13:00:55 <Pikka> casualties reached double figures, but only just. 13:02:35 <Pikka> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bita_Paka 13:02:38 <Pikka> so now you know :) 13:03:14 <Eddi|zuHause> most "colonial" WWI action was probably in southeast africa 13:07:53 <V453000> frosch123: Alberth: not a good idea :P 13:08:17 <Alberth> what exactly> 13:08:19 <Alberth> ? 13:08:35 <frosch123> :p 13:08:59 <frosch123> do i have popcorn around 13:09:20 <Alberth> I need some coffee, tbh :) 13:09:36 <frosch123> oh, i thought you were the tea guy 13:09:51 <Alberth> only in the evening :) 13:16:59 <andythenorth> hmm 13:17:00 <andythenorth> oops 13:17:07 <andythenorth> Tropic has become 'export everything' 13:17:13 <andythenorth> that was the opposite of my intentions :P 13:17:33 <Alberth> you made a different economy than you expected to make :p 13:22:29 <frosch123> so, what to do with my 666th post? 13:22:49 <Pikka> what the hell 13:22:58 <Pikka> does mb really not know how to write var2s? D: 13:23:00 <V453000> unicorns 13:27:35 <planetmaker> moin 13:27:43 <Pikka> boin planetmaker 13:27:56 <Pikka> planetbaker, too 13:28:16 <V453000> hai 13:28:46 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25058 trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp (2013-03-02 12:38:40 UTC) 13:28:47 <DorpsGek> -Add: tree nodes in the refit GUI for subtype refits. 13:30:15 <andythenorth> :) 13:30:35 <andythenorth> Pikka: just do AV10 13:30:39 <andythenorth> skip a version 13:30:41 <andythenorth> 10 planes 13:31:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.168.102] has joined #openttd 13:37:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D87C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:15 <andythenorth> grr 13:39:19 <andythenorth> 2 ports smells of wee 13:39:39 <andythenorth> I could randomise accepted cargo 13:46:26 <Eddi|zuHause> have a food port and a bulk port? 13:47:18 <Pikka> you could 13:47:28 <Eddi|zuHause> randomising accepted cargo sounds like a horrible idea 13:47:35 <Pikka> I'd want the graphics to clearly indicate which cargos it accepted though, for minimal weesmell 13:47:44 <Eddi|zuHause> regearing-cargo-kind of horrible 13:50:24 <andythenorth> graphics are fine 13:50:35 <andythenorth> I can handle that 13:50:42 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not like you run out of industry types 13:50:57 <andythenorth> I only have 14 in this economy so far 13:51:21 <andythenorth> same as Squid, I have managed to cut to fewer than my goal :P 13:51:40 <andythenorth> 17-18 industries is a nice number for 'Basic' 13:52:08 <andythenorth> Pikka: how many in Gecko thing? 13:52:18 <Pikka> how many industries? 13:52:25 <andythenorth> yup 13:52:37 <Pikka> not sure yet, mostly just default temperate-ish ones 13:52:43 <Pikka> fewer even than TaI 13:52:50 <Pikka> / PBI 13:53:07 <NGC3982> Pikka's Bureau of Investigation? 13:55:00 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:56:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i always liked about PBI that it's "more, but not overloaded" 13:57:52 <NGC3982> Uhm. 13:57:53 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/Ut6pu14.png 13:58:03 <NGC3982> Did i accidently change some setting or something? 13:58:18 <Eddi|zuHause> so what are we supposed to see? 13:58:29 <NGC3982> The empty money bar. 13:59:07 <Eddi|zuHause> interesting :) 13:59:57 <Eddi|zuHause> what version are you playing anyway? 14:00:17 <NGC3982> 1.2.3 14:00:35 <NGC3982> Windows 7, nothing special, etc. 14:01:02 <NGC3982> Oh, now i get it. 14:01:18 <NGC3982> I was bought by a player. 14:01:22 <NGC3982> And did not realize it 14:01:58 <Eddi|zuHause> so you were bankrupt? 14:03:02 <NGC3982> Yes, so it seems. 14:12:50 *** wakou [~stephen@host86-152-253-206.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:16:29 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host109-145-49-167.range109-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:32 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-127-116.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:23:09 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:25:19 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:33:22 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i have more posts than MB even though he is there 2 years longer 14:33:48 <Eddi|zuHause> and it's all frosch123's fault, or i would have never noticed 14:34:24 <frosch123> http://alpha.visl.sdu.dk/~tino/pisg/OFTC/openttd.html <- Eddi|zuHause: you can hide behind andy and pm 14:35:20 <NGC3982> "MB"? 14:35:31 * NGC3982 finaly makes a forum account. 14:35:49 <frosch123> no! 14:35:55 <frosch123> preserve your virginity! 14:36:07 <NGC3982> Oh, ok. :( 14:36:14 <frosch123> maybe "innocence" is the better word though 14:36:24 <NGC3982> Chastity belt. 14:36:26 <frosch123> but i had to look that up first :) 14:36:29 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, only join a forum when you know you want to spend the rest of your life with it ;o 14:37:11 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i always lose badly in "number of lines" 14:37:19 <Eddi|zuHause> but "number of words" is pretty close 14:37:31 <frosch123> i think michi_cc had a good ratio there 14:37:49 <frosch123> back when i was so bored that i checked the top20 :p 14:37:58 <Eddi|zuHause> "michi_cc wrote the longest lines, averaging 111.7 letters per line." 14:38:15 <frosch123> oh, so i was not that bored at least :) 14:38:38 <michi_cc> a 14:38:40 <michi_cc> b 14:38:41 <michi_cc> c 14:38:42 <michi_cc> :) 14:38:45 <frosch123> i was already questioning whether i really had done that computation 14:39:25 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-064-158.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:39:27 <Eddi|zuHause> most referenced nicknames is useless as always 14:39:34 <frosch123> @calc (111.7 * 2058 + 5) / (2058 + 4) 14:39:34 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 111.485741998 14:42:32 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 1554 times! 14:46:26 <Pikka> at least 14:51:09 *** wakou [~stephen@host86-152-253-206.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:52:34 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-152-253-206.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:14:29 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:21:12 <NGC3982> You guys know the little graphic anomalies that comes with using Putty (and Irssi) in Windows? 15:21:15 <NGC3982> 14:56 < Janne> Jag klarade mig iaf :) 15:21:17 <NGC3982> Oops. 15:21:57 <TinoDidriksen> What graphic anomalies? PuTTy works fine for me... 15:22:11 <NGC3982> I have always noted small coloured dots at few places. 15:22:18 <__ln__> i wouldn't call swedish text an anomaly 15:22:35 <__ln__> not a graphic anomaly anyway 15:23:21 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/9bAWaRK.png 15:23:26 <NGC3982> The red circle, for instance. 15:23:49 <NGC3982> I succefully fooled my girl friend that it was a product of the background radiation. 15:23:52 <NGC3982> :P 15:23:58 <TinoDidriksen> That dot moves with the window? 15:24:02 <NGC3982> No 15:24:18 <TinoDidriksen> Then it's your screen going bad. 15:24:22 <NGC3982> It cam sometimes be lines, dots, and similar. 15:24:25 <NGC3982> Can* 15:24:37 <NGC3982> Yes, i know. It only acts like that in Putty 15:24:44 <NGC3982> And has been on every Windows computer i have ever used. 15:25:00 <frosch123> start paint and create an entirely black picture 15:25:03 <TinoDidriksen> Hm, could just be some Irssi thing then... 15:25:06 <frosch123> maybe you only notice it on black 15:25:06 <NGC3982> It 15:25:19 <NGC3982> It is only related to Irssi on Putty. 15:25:20 <NGC3982> Nothing else 15:25:26 <NGC3982> Been experimenting with that for years 15:25:42 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25:44 <NGC3982> It is actually quite interesting. 15:26:07 <NGC3982> Oh, wait. It's the terminal too. 15:26:39 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/8OJbnw8.png 15:27:29 <__ln__> TinoDidriksen: irssi definitely doesn't operate on the level of pixels. 15:27:40 <TinoDidriksen> Haven't noticed such anomalies, but then I use white background and probably a different font (Courier New, 10pt, bold). 15:28:00 <NGC3982> I have noticed it for years, and on most computers that i use Putty on. 15:28:39 <NGC3982> "I have noticed it for years" doesn't sound right. 15:28:48 <TinoDidriksen> Sounds correct. 15:29:30 <TinoDidriksen> Better phrased as "I've been noticing it for years", but wasn't wrong. 15:29:44 <NGC3982> I see. 15:38:10 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 15:39:09 <NGC3982> Is there any way to fix CHIPS? 15:39:15 <NGC3982> Like, using an older version or something? :) 15:41:24 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:18:17 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18:32 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 16:20:43 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:21:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:36:42 <wakou2> Is there a way to display Local authrity ratings as a % or a more granular way than the default appalling > poor>>>>>> outstanding 16:37:23 <andythenorth> why? 16:42:21 <wakou2> Because I had a town the other day, rated me appalling, No matter how many trees I planted, roadworks paid, bribes offered, etc etc , that rating did not change. I left the game running for 3 hours or so, but no change. I wondered if it was possible to see whether any progress was being made AT ALL... 16:42:36 <wakou2> ..... One momentito.... 16:43:44 <wakou2> I 'hijacked this thread on the forum http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=63694 16:45:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B922.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46:08 <peter1138> NGC3982, what's wrong with CHIPS 16:46:43 <planetmaker> wakou2, trees need be planted within 20(?) tiles of the town name sign 16:47:00 <NGC3982> I still get the graphical "anomalies" when using the non-track tiles. 16:47:05 <NGC3982> We have discussed this before. 16:47:16 <peter1138> using the latest version?> 16:47:21 <wakou2> Ty PM, I made sure that the tile was owned by the LA.... 16:47:30 <NGC3982> I do think so, it's 1.0.1. 16:47:34 <peter1138> that's not 16:47:41 <NGC3982> I did not recall any other version in the online content? 16:47:44 * NGC3982 looks again. 16:47:54 *** asiekierka [~asie@fluttershy.pl] has joined #openttd 16:48:01 <andythenorth> NGC3982: 1.0.3 16:48:17 <asiekierka> is there a way to speed up OpenTTD rendering? 16:48:29 <asiekierka> wait nvm might be my GPU 16:48:32 <wakou2> a respondent on the forum told me that they have to be planted on a square that has no tree already on it...... unf this town was in a fairly densely forested area to start.... 16:48:44 <NGC3982> andythenorth, peter1138: Thanks. 16:48:55 <wakou2> planetmaker ty .. 16:49:52 <peter1138> NGC3982, there is a "select upgrades" button you know ;p 16:50:26 <NGC3982> For dedicated OpenTTD servers? ;-) 16:50:48 <peter1138> actually yes 16:50:51 <peter1138> not a button though 16:51:03 <NGC3982> Oh, but a command? 16:51:07 <NGC3982> That would be helpful. 16:51:20 <NGC3982> At least to add to my bash start script. 16:51:28 <peter1138> content update 16:51:30 <peter1138> content upgrade 16:51:33 <peter1138> content download 16:51:51 <peter1138> doesn't actually tell you what it's downloading mind you 16:52:23 <NGC3982> But, that sound like commands for the console, in-game. 16:52:27 <peter1138> yes 16:52:32 <peter1138> for a dedicated server 16:52:39 <peter1138> bit inconvenient but it works 16:52:54 <NGC3982> Doesn't that mean i have to start the server, update, and then restart again? 16:54:03 <NGC3982> Since a content upgrade would demand changing the actual content during gameplay. 16:54:07 <NGC3982> If i get the jist. 16:56:47 <__ln__> not gist? 16:56:54 <NGC3982> It's "gist"? 16:57:27 * NGC3982 alerts Russia to invade Finland. 16:57:28 <__ln__> Could be. 16:57:41 <andythenorth> wood in tropical? 16:57:44 <andythenorth> I guess 16:58:04 <NGC3982> Sure. 17:00:44 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:04:41 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:05:03 <andythenorth> hmm 17:06:08 *** slower [~slower@nat-users-217-29-8-10.net.pnet.netair.net] has joined #openttd 17:07:10 <planetmaker> asiekierka, your GPU has very little influence on OpenTTD speed, including drawing 17:07:28 <andythenorth> water in FIRS Tropic basic? 17:07:35 <andythenorth> water chain is currently missing in FIRS 17:07:37 <planetmaker> water... rather boring, no? 17:07:39 <NGC3982> I actually tried forcing my 310M GPU to run OpenTTD 17:07:49 <andythenorth> planetmaker: need something to make desert towns grow 17:07:52 <planetmaker> it's like coal->powerplant 17:07:52 <NGC3982> And i did not really work that well. 17:07:57 <andythenorth> water, goods, petrol...something 17:08:05 <NGC3982> I like water as a cargo type. 17:08:19 <NGC3982> The more stuff i can send to a city, i'm happier. 17:08:20 <planetmaker> wood 17:08:26 <planetmaker> or building materials 17:08:32 <andythenorth> currently FIRS uses goods for desert towns 17:08:50 <asiekierka> planetmaker: my CPU is 2.8GHz Core2Quad 17:08:52 <andythenorth> could do timber 17:08:53 <asiekierka> also 1920x1200 screen 17:08:58 <andythenorth> for this climate 17:09:05 <NGC3982> asiekierka: That would be sufficient? 17:09:10 * andythenorth ponders not having goods in the climate at all 17:10:03 <planetmaker> asiekierka, it highly depends on the actual game you play, map size mostly. And newgrfs used 17:10:21 <planetmaker> and the amount of vehicles (trains, rv, ships, planes) which roam around 17:10:37 <NGC3982> A 2048^2 map with ECS and a fair amount of trains completely kills my computers. 17:10:47 <NGC3982> The latter with greater influence. 17:10:58 <planetmaker> both add quite decently to load 17:11:03 <planetmaker> or rather all three 17:11:27 <NGC3982> My general impression of OpenTTD is that it runs on everything, though. 17:12:04 <planetmaker> yes. But not the map you just outlined. That'll suck on many machines 17:12:09 <NGC3982> Yeah 17:12:11 <planetmaker> sluggish at best 17:12:17 <andythenorth> default FIRS economy is bonkers 17:12:18 <NGC3982> It's not really a usable scenario, though. 17:12:34 <andythenorth> when I look in minimap, list of industries is completely overwhelming 17:12:37 <NGC3982> I have never seen an ECS game work on a >512^2 map. 17:12:42 <NGC3982> But i guess that is just me. 17:15:35 <andythenorth> ho ho 17:15:38 <andythenorth> coffee plantation 17:15:53 <NGC3982> Please make that. 17:16:03 <NGC3982> And a town vendor. 17:16:17 <NGC3982> "Accepts: Moka brewers and beans". 17:18:58 <andythenorth> vineyard 17:19:10 <NGC3982> Yes. 17:19:26 <NGC3982> Oh, you could turn OpenTTD into a modern version of Zeus, master of Olympus. 17:19:29 <NGC3982> Now that game is great. 17:19:47 <NGC3982> Too bad it does not support widescreen or resolution modification. 17:19:48 <NGC3982> :( 17:20:30 <NGC3982> Speaking of wich. How does that work, really? I guess Transport Tycoon was a commercial entity at first, and then turned into open-source? 17:21:11 <NGC3982> A "Make Zeus/Rome/Egypt an open-source game" project would be neat to organize, if possible. 17:32:36 *** slower [~slower@nat-users-217-29-8-10.net.pnet.netair.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:25 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25059 trunk/src/lang/english.txt (2013-03-02 16:54:09 UTC) 17:44:17 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5491]: Clarify meaning of string describing waiting cargo received from other stations 17:44:33 <Pikka> not having goods? 17:44:37 <Pikka> outrageous! 17:45:00 <frosch123> aren't you awake way too early? 17:52:17 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-19-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:58:28 <NGC3982> I just found a major water leakage in my living room 17:59:14 <__ln__> that's unpleasant 18:03:27 <andythenorth> oh he left 18:18:06 *** slower [~slower@nat-users-217-29-8-10.net.pnet.netair.net] has joined #openttd 18:26:08 *** slower [~slower@nat-users-217-29-8-10.net.pnet.netair.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:26:27 *** slower [~slower@nat-users-217-29-8-10.net.pnet.netair.net] has joined #openttd 18:34:10 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-064-158.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 18:41:14 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:41:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:44:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B922.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:49:12 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:49:32 <supermop> hello 18:50:15 <NGC3982> It's quite bad 18:50:19 <supermop> can i rely on cargo dist to let me transfer half a trainload but deliver the other half at the same station? 18:50:28 <NGC3982> A leaking radiator pipe has dropped down the laminate floor 18:50:48 <supermop> i don't want to have this train run like 6 times before the connection is establised 18:50:57 <NGC3982> There is moist two meters in every direction from the pipe entry, under the floor 18:51:08 <supermop> sounds expensive 18:51:20 *** slower [~slower@nat-users-217-29-8-10.net.pnet.netair.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:51:27 <NGC3982> Also, all the way up to the window cupboard 18:52:32 *** slower [~slower@nat-users-217-29-8-10.net.pnet.netair.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:38 *** slower [~slower@nat-users-217-29-8-10.net.pnet.netair.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:03:43 <__ln__> NGC3982: so you'll be living somewhere else for a month soon 19:04:01 <NGC3982> I guess so. People should be here in like five minutes or something 19:05:19 <__ln__> i've got a leaking waterpipe in my kitchen atm, but it's under control now and no significant damage to the floor (there was water under the floor though, so can't be quite sure) 19:09:05 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:14:16 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 19:14:16 <supermop> if i have a train with a bunch of tank wagons leaving a refinery using FIRS 19:14:27 <NGC3982> __ln__: You should call someone. 19:14:33 <NGC3982> At least report it, if you rent your apartment. 19:14:44 <supermop> and half carry gasoline, the other half carry chemicals 19:14:48 <NGC3982> I have a guy here right now, wrecking my floor to pieces ATM. 19:15:25 <supermop> it stops at a machine stop 19:15:34 <supermop> i want it to deliver the gas there 19:15:36 <__ln__> NGC3982: i did, they fixed it on friday, but now it's leaking again from a different spot... perhaps the original source of leak was located incorrectly. 19:15:42 <supermop> and transfer the chemicals 19:16:00 <supermop> so trucks can take them to a nearby plastics plant 19:16:03 <NGC3982> __ln__: Sounds plausible. 19:16:37 <__ln__> it's like one drop of water in a minute, so i'm not exactly drowning here. 19:16:39 <supermop> as far as i know, i can either unload everything there, or transfer everything there 19:16:57 <supermop> but not transfer one cargo and deliver the other 19:17:09 <supermop> any suggestions? 19:21:44 <peter1138> __ln__, you need a supermop 19:22:29 <supermop> sounds like a solution 19:22:29 <NGC3982> __ln__: The damage here is caused by a probable waterflow of a single drop per 20 minutes, or so. 19:26:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:28:10 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 19:33:10 <frosch123> yay, fresh cookies! 19:35:57 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25060 /trunk/src/lang (8 files) (2013-03-02 18:45:44 UTC) 19:35:58 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 19:35:59 <DorpsGek> croatian - 1 changes by VoyagerOne 19:36:00 <DorpsGek> estonian - 1 changes by notAbot 19:36:01 <DorpsGek> french - 12 changes by OliTTD 19:36:02 <DorpsGek> german - 1 changes by planetmaker 19:36:03 <DorpsGek> greek - 29 changes by Evropi 19:36:04 <DorpsGek> korean - 48 changes by telk5093 19:36:05 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 3 changes by Devastator 19:36:06 <DorpsGek> norwegian_nynorsk - 5 changes by terjesc 19:36:31 <NGC3982> I have a problem. 19:36:55 <NGC3982> I'm hungry, but i also spent my hungover morning on the newly opened Burger King here in VÀxjö. 19:37:05 <NGC3982> Three whoppers and a cheeseburger. 19:37:18 <NGC3982> And i can't help feeling that i should not eat anymore today. 19:38:54 <frosch123> i always wonder whether the strategy to only eat cookies you baked yourself would work 19:39:24 <NGC3982> That would make you thin, and me very, very fat. 19:39:30 * NGC3982 bakes a lot. 19:39:52 <peter1138> three whoppers and a cheeseburger? o_O 19:40:17 <NGC3982> Yes. Had to celebrate something, at least. 19:40:45 <NGC3982> And it was 'merica cheap. 1,5€ per burger. 19:41:03 <NGC3982> Of course, i did not eat any fries and sh*t like that. 19:41:05 <NGC3982> Ruins everything. 19:52:00 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:40 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db9ee7e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:19:51 <andythenorth> tropic without wood? 20:20:46 * andythenorth is +1 20:21:03 <supermop> ? 20:26:21 <andythenorth> FIRS sandpits look really silly in desertt 20:26:27 <andythenorth> due to the water 20:26:46 <andythenorth> and the use of the wrong ground tile 20:28:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:32:20 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-172.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:00:51 *** slower [~slower@nat-users-217-29-8-10.net.pnet.netair.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:20 <peter1138> you look silly in desertt 21:05:55 <andythenorth> is there sugar in desertt? 21:06:43 <NGC3982> andythenorth: Yes, indeed. 21:07:36 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:17 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:13:42 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:15:34 <andythenorth> hmm 21:15:44 <andythenorth> FIRS Tropic Basic is now smaller than default Tropic 21:15:47 <andythenorth> this is not good? 21:17:45 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 21:20:01 <supermop> nah 21:20:06 <supermop> also 21:20:23 <supermop> how hard would it be to draw a pit/quarry with no water 21:20:28 *** chester_ [~chester@93-80-61-234.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:20:30 <andythenorth> some hard 21:20:32 <andythenorth> not much 21:20:37 <supermop> little dump trucks down in the whole 21:20:49 <supermop> hole 21:20:54 <supermop> damnit 21:21:05 <supermop> i wrote hole first then corrected it to whole 21:21:34 <supermop> playing a tiny FIRS map at work right now 21:23:14 <supermop> in normal firs the dredging site and sand hole produce the same stuff 21:23:42 <supermop> maybe randomly have the dredger produce any two of stone, sand, or clay? 21:24:16 <supermop> is that even possible? 21:25:13 <andythenorth> it's possible 21:25:19 <andythenorth> I mostly avoid it, due to it being annoying 21:26:20 <supermop> haha could you end up with a map full of dredging sites producing only clay and clay? 21:28:06 <supermop> gah i forgot to add heqs 21:28:32 <supermop> i guess because it was a small game on my work computer and wanted to keep it basic 21:28:39 <Supercheese> No HEQS? Travesty. 21:28:45 <supermop> but the steel mil is on top of a mountain peak 21:28:57 <Supercheese> Himalaya Steel Inc. 21:29:05 <supermop> and i reall could use a little tram to carry ore and coal up there 21:29:21 <Supercheese> HEQS trams are superlative 21:29:45 <supermop> i guess a fleet of egrvts trucks are in order 21:29:56 <supermop> or a short train with a kirby paul? 21:30:02 <andythenorth> trams are cheating 21:30:05 <andythenorth> they should be banned 21:30:27 <Supercheese> default trains? eew 21:30:51 <supermop> growing up playing TTO i always thought of the kirby paul as kirby puckett 21:31:01 <supermop> cause of much fondness 21:31:56 <supermop> just got some SH 8ps 21:32:56 <supermop> so cascaded my ginzus to the branch passenger line and the chaneys are joining the freight fleet 21:44:38 <andythenorth> hmm 21:44:41 <andythenorth> rubber 21:44:44 <andythenorth> auto parts 21:45:24 <planetmaker> makes a good town growth cargo 21:45:27 <planetmaker> especially in 1800 21:47:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B922.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49:22 <andythenorth> :P 21:52:58 <andythenorth> maybe I just keep it simple 21:53:01 * andythenorth puts oil chain back 21:53:05 <andythenorth> boring but... 21:53:06 <andythenorth> easy 21:58:10 <Supercheese> There's lots of oil in the tropics, makes sense 22:00:00 <planetmaker> oil is not necessarily boring 22:01:04 <andythenorth> it's just that it has to be in every economy so far :P 22:01:14 <andythenorth> one way or another, most chains depend on it :P 22:01:18 <NGC3982> The FIRS/ECS version of oil is kind of interesting. 22:01:19 <andythenorth> lesson about life eh? 22:05:13 *** slower [~slower@nat-users-217-29-8-10.net.pnet.netair.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:16:40 <Alberth> planetmaker: http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/griddy_monorail.png are these gridlines around monorail correct? 22:20:12 <planetmaker> they're not correct. But it's a missing feature. I have no gridless sprites for them yet in ogfx+landscape 22:23:03 <planetmaker> hm, though I know it... there's no issue about it... so I might forget when I re-visit that newgrf 22:25:11 <Alberth> that's solvable ;) 22:27:55 <planetmaker> :D 22:28:33 <planetmaker> IIRC I postponed fixing that when I got annoyed with fixing the monorail sprites... they were stubborn to look nice ;-) 22:32:32 <planetmaker> created myself an issue 22:32:39 <planetmaker> thanks for bringing it up :-) 22:41:46 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:43:18 <frosch123> night 22:43:21 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00b8cf.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:14 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:44:59 <andythenorth> oil rigs in tropic or not? 22:45:01 <andythenorth> or just wells? 22:45:09 <andythenorth> would keep the industry count lower 22:55:42 *** chester_ [~chester@93-80-61-234.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 23:18:39 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:19:01 <Wolf01> 'night 23:19:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:32:34 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: goodger] 23:53:04 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd []