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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 09:10:37 *** RavingManiac_ [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 09:10:40 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-108-198.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 09:13:30 *** RavingManiac_ [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [] 09:18:57 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 09:19:16 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 09:24:14 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-108-198.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:26:20 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 09:27:45 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-108-198.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 09:30:56 <Terkhen> good morning 09:36:29 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:37:48 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:38:04 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67D4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 09:57:14 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-50dd93-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:01:59 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> oxygen.oftc.net quits: cyph3r, CornishPasty, lugo, Hirundo, tycoondemon, Guilux, ccfreak2k, TheMask96, luckz, lobster, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 10:05:39 *** Netsplit over, joins: lobster, cyph3r, Pensacola, TheMask96, Guilux, tycoondemon, zeknurn, ccfreak2k, confound, luckz (+3 more) 10:27:01 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-108-198.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 10:27:01 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-108-198.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:38 * peter1139 ponders a pc upgrade 10:28:38 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-108-198.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:29:18 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-108-198.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 10:41:49 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-103-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 10:45:50 <peter1139> or maybe... shock horror... a laptop 10:46:21 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-108-198.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:50 <dihedral> oi 10:53:50 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-103-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:54:35 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-103-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 10:58:05 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has joined #openttd 11:02:22 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has joined #openttd 11:02:22 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02:41 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-103-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:54 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:07:38 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has joined #openttd 11:10:59 <peter1139> hmm, what's the best way of sending X clients in a VM to the host machine? 11:11:15 <peter1139> i'm using ssh -X at the moment cos i'm lazy but encryption isn't exactly required 11:13:02 <Sacro> NX? 11:13:09 <Sacro> I personally like it 11:13:18 <__ln__> assuming trusted network, say "xhost +" on the host, and export DISPLAY=host:0.0 in the VM. no guarantees on bestness, but at least no encryption. 11:13:41 <Sacro> hah 11:13:53 <Sacro> and then set up port fowarding to the outside world 11:14:17 <__ln__> an honest person doesn't have anything to hide. 11:19:09 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:21:36 <peter1139> No protocol specified 11:21:37 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:21:38 <peter1139> o_O 11:21:53 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has joined #openttd 11:23:50 <peter1139> ah, xhost :D 11:36:41 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 11:37:24 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has joined #openttd 11:38:44 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:39:02 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has joined #openttd 11:43:31 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has joined #openttd 11:43:31 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:48:30 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has joined #openttd 11:48:30 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58:39 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 12:01:39 *** Pulec [pulec@unaffilated.amunak.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:08:01 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.74.175] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:11:13 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 12:14:45 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 12:14:45 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:22:55 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 12:22:55 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:38:50 *** asiekierka [~asie@fluttershy.pl] has quit [Quit: acorp] 12:48:12 * peter1139 mumbles about stylecop complaining about tab characters 12:59:43 <Sacro> peter1139: heh, yes 12:59:58 <peter1139> arguments against tab characters are stupid 13:00:14 <peter1139> "it appears different depending on tab size" no shit, that's the point 13:10:27 *** Pulec [pulec@unaffilated.amunak.net] has joined #openttd 13:12:21 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:25:26 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-74-143.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 13:32:17 *** Xabier_Cancela [~chatzilla@99.pool85-61-146.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #openttd 13:32:58 *** Xabier_Cancela [~chatzilla@99.pool85-61-146.dynamic.orange.es] has quit [] 13:34:21 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:49:41 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:59:13 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:30 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 14:06:17 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:28 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 14:07:50 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:10:26 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 14:19:04 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 14:25:34 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 14:50:11 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:00:43 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-015-157.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 15:04:41 *** adamt [~adam@93-166-250-82-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 15:07:49 *** alandarev [~alandarev@5ac840b3.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 15:07:52 <alandarev> Hi all ) 15:08:30 <alandarev> can anyone give me a link to tutorial setting up a server? 15:08:54 <alandarev> how can I configure a server to be something like a 'town growth challenge' 15:20:12 <planetmaker> Did you have a look at our wiki, alandarev ? 15:20:50 <planetmaker> for things like 'town growth challange' have a look at the available goal/ game scripts 15:20:59 <planetmaker> you configure that in the script settings 15:25:00 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 15:26:46 *** adamt [~adam@93-166-250-82-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:01 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:36:21 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36:33 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 15:50:24 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50:36 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 15:55:36 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 16:09:26 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09:37 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 16:12:03 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 16:17:01 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ac158d4.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:20:02 <alandarev> planetmaker: I have issues :( openttd requires libicu38 as dependency, but I got libicu48 and obviously can not downgrade. what should I do? 16:20:26 <alandarev> (Debian) 16:22:56 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:23:07 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 16:26:11 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:28:56 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:29:07 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 16:31:33 <planetmaker> alandarev, openttd builds fine for me with libicu48 16:33:02 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 16:33:11 <planetmaker> if you talk about the pre-compiled openttd shipped with debian, that it doesn't it is linked against the wrong libicu, that's a debian bug 16:33:19 <alandarev> planetmaker: ah so you compile it? I try to install from downloaded .deb and also tried apt-get install 16:34:15 <planetmaker> you don't by chance have mixed main backports experimental packages? 16:35:03 <planetmaker> which debian do you talk of? 16:36:42 <planetmaker> right. I just used apt-get on wheezy. No issue there 16:37:33 <planetmaker> thus you got to be much more specific 16:37:58 <planetmaker> what did you try on which system with what things installed 16:38:14 <planetmaker> what did you see and what did you expect to see? 16:39:30 <Rubidium> planetmaker: I think alandarev installed some (old) version acquired from somewhere and assumed it should just work 16:41:36 <alandarev> planetmaker: I am running debian wheezy. i checked in apt-cache openttd version, it is 1.2.3 when I try to install: openttd : Depends: libicu38 (>= 3.8-5) but it is not installable 16:43:48 <Rubidium> wheezy doesn't have 1.2.3 16:45:40 <Rubidium> and if you try to install the lenny binary from OpenTTD's website, then you'll get that error 16:45:49 <alandarev> Rubidium: Whoa, that seems to be correct information. then 1.2.3 came from when I tried to dpkg -i the debian package downloaded from openttd.org 16:46:01 <alandarev> and yes, I need 1.2.3, as my windows client is 1.2.3 :) 16:46:16 <Rubidium> use the one from debian unstable 16:46:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008861.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:38 <alandarev> Rubidium: can I download a package from 'not my' repository? 16:46:46 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:18 <Rubidium> hmm... even experimental (an old one to be precise) 16:47:37 <alandarev> ok, I will try to find the solution, thanks to givine me a direction. 16:47:55 <planetmaker> alandarev, or use the generic linux binary. They are statically linked 16:48:30 <alandarev> planetmaker: ehm, I don't have enough knowledge to understand what you meant :( 16:48:47 <Rubidium> alandarev: try http://snapshot.debian.org/package/openttd/1.2.3-1/ 16:50:33 <alandarev> okay thanks, Can't now but I will as soon as get some time. 16:59:57 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:08 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 17:03:11 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:06:20 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6CAED.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:14:04 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15:02 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1934F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:14 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:48 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1071296#p1071296 <- awesome first post :) 17:19:03 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:24:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:36:03 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 17:36:03 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:54 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:41:05 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 17:43:51 *** grlpx [~grlpx@134.157.229.188] has joined #openttd 17:45:54 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46:05 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 17:47:56 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48:07 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 17:55:36 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:58:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:32 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:59:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:01:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:02:06 <andythenorth> herp 18:02:09 <andythenorth> derp 18:02:11 <andythenorth> bath time 18:02:14 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:02:28 <andythenorth> has anyone translated FIRS yet? 18:02:44 <andythenorth> I have 32 compile errors I can't kill, all missing translations :( 18:03:01 <andythenorth> compile errors are Not Allowed :( 18:03:17 <Alberth> hi hi 18:03:24 <Alberth> remove the offending lines? 18:03:33 <andythenorth> or delete the translation? 18:03:56 <andythenorth> afaict, deleting the lines produces an error 18:04:05 <planetmaker> how that? 18:04:12 <andythenorth> missing string 18:04:14 <planetmaker> missing strings must not produce an error 18:04:18 * andythenorth checks 18:04:18 <Alberth> hi planetmaker 18:04:22 <planetmaker> hello :-) 18:04:47 <Alberth> at least not in the translation, as it should fall back to the english base language 18:05:51 <andythenorth> yup, missing lines don't show an error in stdout 18:05:54 <andythenorth> which is nice :) 18:05:58 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:06:10 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 18:06:11 <andythenorth> biab 18:16:47 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@000128eb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:18:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6CAED.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:29 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@000128eb.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:57 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:27:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host18-237-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:27:24 <Wolf01> o/ 18:28:52 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 18:28:52 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29:29 *** chester_ [~chester@128-68-80-179.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:29:56 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 18:31:11 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:22 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has joined #openttd 18:32:13 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:33:15 *** adamt [~adam@93-166-250-82-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 18:35:01 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:41:31 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:41:31 *** adamt [~adam@93-166-250-82-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:45:31 <alandarev> can anyone find me openttd-data 1.2.3 package for debian? 18:45:40 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25124 /trunk/src/lang (5 files) (2013-03-26 18:45:28 UTC) 18:45:41 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:42 <DorpsGek> simplified_chinese - 16 changes by chenwt0315 18:45:43 <alandarev> can't find it at snapshot.debian.org 18:45:44 <DorpsGek> japanese - 13 changes by Aknuth 18:45:45 <DorpsGek> korean - 3 changes by telk5093 18:45:46 <DorpsGek> latvian - 4 changes by Parastais 18:45:47 <DorpsGek> welsh - 159 changes by kazzie 18:46:56 <alandarev> I think i found it 18:48:07 <alandarev> finally installed. damn it is way more harder than should be... 18:48:13 <alandarev> someone should push 1.2.3 to debian stable :( 18:51:08 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 18:55:05 *** adamt [~adam@vpn-nat.statsbiblioteket.dk] has joined #openttd 18:55:12 <Alberth> it's called 'stable' for a reason ;) 18:56:22 *** grlpx [~grlpx@134.157.229.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:01:32 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 19:01:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 19:06:32 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:31 *** adamt [~adam@vpn-nat.statsbiblioteket.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:51 <planetmaker> alandarev, usually it works decently to obtain the binary from our website for that version you use... http://www.openttd.org/en/download-stable should have the one for your version, too. Unless it's wheezy it seems 19:20:03 <alandarev> planetmaker: I am not having 'monitor' on my server, how can I install add-ons and configure server without getting brain cancer? 19:22:07 <planetmaker> edit your config file to your needs. Or prepare the game locally and upload to server and start that ready-made map 19:22:16 <planetmaker> the latter arguably is a lot easier 19:22:34 <alandarev> planetmaker: and what about the add-ons? 19:25:07 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:27:34 <Alberth> just copy them to the same location as your prepared setup 19:27:46 <planetmaker> what Alberth said :-) 19:27:56 <planetmaker> content can also be obtained via rcon from the server 19:28:22 <planetmaker> but must be done before you try load a map which needs it 19:28:27 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 19:38:54 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:47:12 <andythenorth> so FIRS docs have two sections, one for players / translators, one as code reference 19:47:14 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/industries_code_reference.html 19:47:30 <andythenorth> what else should be in industry code reference? I figure anyone who cares can read the source 19:48:33 <Alberth> why all the black exclamation marks? 19:49:56 <andythenorth> warnings that the cargos may be different in other economies 19:49:59 <andythenorth> doesn't work tbh 19:51:47 <andythenorth> hmm 19:51:54 <andythenorth> tempted to not render the cargo classes in the docs 19:52:03 <andythenorth> just to prove the point that nobody should rely on them 19:52:12 <andythenorth> or I could put a snarky message in the docs :P 19:52:39 <HellTiger> hm i have logic problem in my orders. i have station 1, 2, 3, 4. station1 load, unload at 3. station 4 load unload at 2. 19:53:00 <HellTiger> now the train dont skip he try to do things at his hold. but he could drive through 19:53:03 <HellTiger> but he holds. 19:53:24 <HellTiger> he should skip hold 2 until he was at 4 19:54:01 <planetmaker> use non-stop orders 19:54:07 <planetmaker> goto non-stop X 19:55:15 <HellTiger> HA! :D 19:55:16 <HellTiger> thx 19:55:44 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:56:55 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/cargos_code_reference.html 19:57:05 <andythenorth> cargos ^ :P 19:58:26 <andythenorth> pub 19:58:30 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:58:46 *** chester_ [~chester@128-68-80-179.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:59:34 *** adamt [~adam@93-166-250-82-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 20:15:51 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:45 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-015-157.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:24:51 *** Hannez [~hr@244.61.46.176.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 20:25:02 *** Hannez [~hr@244.61.46.176.dyn.estpak.ee] has left #openttd [] 20:31:05 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-015-157.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 20:31:11 *** Afdal [~chatzilla@host-174-45-181-198.chy-wy.client.bresnan.net] has joined #openttd 20:31:32 <Afdal> Hello, can someone tell me how to check pathfinding settings from the console in-game? 20:32:32 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 20:32:45 <V453000> can you be more specific? 20:33:14 <Afdal> I suspect someone doesn't have their yapf two-way signal penalty set to 10000 or whatever and I want to check 20:33:33 <Afdal> red two-way reading end-of-line penalty I mean 20:33:50 <V453000> just type set -name-of-setting 20:34:10 <Afdal> Oh wait that's yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol isn't it? 20:34:14 <V453000> in this case I think it is yapf.rail.firstred_twoway_eol 20:34:16 <V453000> or something like that 20:34:25 <V453000> ah yes 20:34:39 <Afdal> Ah, yes, it's set to 0 20:34:41 <Afdal> thanks 20:34:50 <Afdal> Forgot about the "set" part 20:34:56 <V453000> you can find all settings in your config file, just ctrl+f them to know the exact name 20:35:03 <V453000> yw 20:35:07 <Afdal> Yeah but I can't check this from the cfg because it's 20:35:10 <Afdal> not my current setting 20:35:15 <Afdal> had to see from their own game 20:35:28 <V453000> well yes 20:35:39 <V453000> I know that 20:35:45 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35:50 <V453000> just giving advice when you need a different setting next time 20:36:03 <Afdal> Why would someone turn that off anyway? 20:36:28 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:36:58 <V453000> it is 0 by default 20:37:45 <Afdal> Really? 20:37:55 <Afdal> I could have sworn I never had to mess with that 20:38:07 <V453000> not since forever, but now it is 20:38:15 <Afdal> Well gee, why is it off by default? 20:38:24 <Afdal> That's a pretty important setting for advanced networking 20:38:30 <V453000> I guess the 2way behaviour is too unexpected 20:38:35 <Afdal> I:} 20:38:41 <V453000> not that I like that it is off on default either 20:38:58 <V453000> but well 20:39:08 <V453000> all of our articles which require 2way eol to be on, have it mentioned 20:39:20 <V453000> and everywhere else it probably does more harm than good 20:39:25 <Afdal> You mean your openttdcoop stuff? 20:39:32 <V453000> of course 20:41:06 <Afdal> Well anyway, thanks 20:41:13 *** Afdal [~chatzilla@host-174-45-181-198.chy-wy.client.bresnan.net] has left #openttd [] 20:41:16 <V453000> you are welcome 20:55:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B7D8.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:10:26 *** l0rdz3dd [~androirc@178-25-28-117-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 21:11:07 <Wolf01> 'night 21:11:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:11:50 <l0rdz3dd> Hi guys 21:18:19 <Alberth> hi 21:19:31 *** codl [~codl@codl.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:20:46 *** codl [~codl@codl.fr] has joined #openttd 21:28:51 *** codl [~codl@codl.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:16 *** codl [~codl@codl.fr] has joined #openttd 21:49:23 <frosch123> night 21:49:26 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008861.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:31 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-253-197.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #openttd [] 21:54:46 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-253-197.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 21:55:19 *** ST2 is now known as xT2 21:56:58 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:00:17 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:22:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:23:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1934F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:24:41 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:25:32 <alandarev> is there a mod for openttd where price of cargo is calculated based on nearest available resource spot rather than where my railway station is? 22:31:13 <andythenorth> no 22:31:41 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:35:28 <alandarev> sad :( why nobody would make one? makes so much sense :) 22:40:05 <andythenorth> feel free :) 22:40:06 *** adamt [~adam@93-166-250-82-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:40 <HellTiger> care free!!! 22:40:52 <andythenorth> links to repos are here http://www.openttd.org/en/development 22:42:03 <andythenorth> :o there is doxygen 22:42:12 <andythenorth> I never noticed that before :P 22:42:19 <alandarev> that sounds like an interesting idea 22:42:32 <alandarev> strangely nobody did it 22:43:49 <andythenorth> I would consider a multiplier on the cargo payment calculation 22:43:58 <andythenorth> for which distance to nearest source is a factor 22:44:09 <Zuu> andythenorth: Most methods in OpenTTD are fairly well documented with respect to doxygen comments. 22:44:10 <andythenorth> you'd need to exclude pax and mail, and other pax or mail-like cargos 22:44:31 <andythenorth> this would give you a spot price per-tile on the map 22:44:35 <andythenorth> rather than a global price 22:45:01 <andythenorth> I don't know how intensive calculating cargo payment is, you might need to consider caching and how to invalidate caches 22:45:16 <andythenorth> but as newgrf can run a custom payment calculation, it *might* be ok 22:45:33 <andythenorth> although 'what newgrf can do' is not always a good guide to performance afaict 22:45:49 <andythenorth> you also need some gui way to represent this 22:46:11 <andythenorth> railroad tycoon 3 had a heatmap overlay for the main map to show price per cargo 22:46:26 <alandarev> andythenorth: and I got 0 experience in any of those :( Would rather see someone pick the idea 22:46:33 <andythenorth> oh 22:46:44 <andythenorth> well in that case it can get in the queue of ponies 22:46:48 <andythenorth> but it's a long queue 22:46:55 <andythenorth> and there are very few developers ;) 22:47:03 <andythenorth> http://i-want-a-pony.com 22:47:41 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:48:11 <alandarev> andythenorth: I don't mind learning and sounds like fun.. but just need to worry about my studies for next couple of months.. Mybe next time if nobody implements it before 22:48:34 <andythenorth> :) 22:48:46 <andythenorth> studies are important 22:49:27 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67D4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:54:44 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.16.174.70] has joined #openttd 22:58:24 *** alandarev [~alandarev@5ac840b3.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:15:10 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:28:35 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-50-215.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:33:01 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:34:06 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:51:20 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd