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[~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:35:10 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 07:35:18 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:35:21 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 07:36:25 <Alberth> moin 07:38:36 <V453000> elo 07:41:30 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:48:05 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:55:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67346.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 07:57:31 <Flygon> I feel I have learned a curse with CargoDist 07:57:40 <Flygon> Lack of forward compatibilty with certain saves D: 08:03:12 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:08:30 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:14:44 <Supercheese> good night 08:14:51 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 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[~wolf01@95.233.3.31] has joined #openttd 08:55:52 <Wolf01> hello :D 09:07:47 <Alberth> hi 09:09:43 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:14:30 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-086.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 09:32:08 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 09:48:41 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:50:42 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4c02.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:08:12 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:10:48 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:15:37 <frosch123> "/* There is always one platform that doesn't support basic commands... */" <- yay, ottd comments :) 10:16:43 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25158 extra/musa/type.py (2013-04-07 10:16:37 UTC) 10:16:44 <DorpsGek> [musa] -Fix (25145): Remove useless code 10:18:39 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25159 extra/musa/scriptid.py (2013-04-07 10:18:33 UTC) 10:18:40 <DorpsGek> [musa] -Fix (25145): Was to restrictive when detecting short name of script 10:20:12 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 10:29:55 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25160 extra/musa/misc.py (2013-04-07 10:29:49 UTC) 10:29:56 <DorpsGek> [musa] -Fix: Undefined variable in validation of dependencies using short name 10:30:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:44:31 *** tycoondemon2 [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 10:49:01 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49:17 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 10:51:29 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:55:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:03:33 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:09:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25161 extra/musa/musa.py (2013-04-07 11:09:22 UTC) 11:09:29 <DorpsGek> [musa] -Fix: Remove unnecessary check 11:09:43 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:20:30 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25162 /extra/musa (4 files) (2013-04-07 11:20:23 UTC) 11:20:31 <DorpsGek> [musa] -Feature: New command (depgen.py) for extracting content type, uniqueid and md5sum from content tar files and print a dependency string for using in your musa .ini files 12:04:23 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25163 /extra/musa (14 files) (2013-04-07 12:04:18 UTC) 12:04:24 <DorpsGek> [musa] -Fix: Set eol-style properties of all musa files 12:16:14 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:19:03 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:19:07 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:43:01 *** KritiK 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I cant seem to be able to put a switch instead of the VISUAL_EFFECT_DEFAULT :s visual_effect_and_powered: visual_effect_and_powered(VISUAL_EFFECT_DEFAULT, 0, DISABLE_WAGON_POWER); 15:26:22 *** Flygon__ is now known as Flygon 15:35:31 <frosch123> it is possible 15:59:35 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 16:03:00 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67346.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:05:19 <V453000> frosch123: any clues how? :s 16:11:34 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 16:27:40 <Snail> in m4nfo that'd be easy 16:37:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:37:48 <Rubidium> in C it'd be even easier 16:53:00 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 16:54:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B352.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:02 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 17:03:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:05:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:08:02 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 17:20:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:32:22 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-086.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 17:45:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25164 /trunk/src/lang (serbian.txt unfinished/faroese.txt) (2013-04-07 17:45:14 UTC) 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> faroese - 276 changes by FastNinja 17:45:24 <DorpsGek> serbian - 28 changes by ivan_mile 17:48:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:57:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:01:31 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:03:33 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:04:32 <Snail> question... how is nfo var 00 (= date) handled before 1920? does it have negative values? 18:06:34 <Rubidium> it's just 0 18:06:59 <Rubidium> likewise the max is capped as well (probably at 2090) 18:07:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:07:24 <Rubidium> you're better off using 23 or 24 18:07:38 <Snail> I see 18:08:00 <Snail> how about the date of the last maintenance if that occurs before 1920? 18:08:09 <Rubidium> likewise 18:08:43 <Rubidium> unless you use the "long date" 18:08:53 <Rubidium> then it's the date since 1-1-1 (or so) 18:09:12 <Snail> hmmm... this sounds useful 18:09:31 <Snail> any particular steps I need to do to use the "long date" in nfo? 18:11:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6CC24.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:11:55 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:12:15 <Rubidium> probably not much, it's roughly the same as the short dates with another epoch and larger range (dword instead of word) 18:13:17 <Rubidium> the only caveat is that only openttd supports long dates in stable releases 18:13:38 <Rubidium> but doesn't m4nfo just do long dates right? 18:14:09 <Snail> m4nfo seems to do dates starting from 1920 18:14:23 <Snail> but I'm not 100% sure 18:14:39 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 18:15:08 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:31:54 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 18:34:55 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25165 extra/musa/type.py (2013-04-07 18:34:50 UTC) 18:34:56 <DorpsGek> [musa] -Fix(25145): Server want to validate before the tar has been uploaded 18:35:41 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:41:50 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:44:24 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:45:44 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:00:12 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 19:14:08 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-086.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 19:24:14 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:16 <Snail> would introducing maximum ranges for locomotives (a bit like for planes) be possible at all? 19:30:49 <Snail> so for example, in the early years, a small tank locomotive would be able to only do shorter trips between two stations than a large tender loco 19:39:11 <andythenorth> think you can fake that in newgrf 19:39:19 <andythenorth> probably, using a nasty thing on cb 36 19:40:21 <planetmaker> Not sure. You can't access the order distance there. Nor how long you travelled since the last station 19:40:42 <planetmaker> And the distance on rails can be MUCH longer than the station distance as determined by the distance as the bird flies 19:41:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@88.128.80.5] has joined #openttd 19:41:26 <andythenorth> just give a range in days travel? 19:41:38 <andythenorth> reset on visiting a depot 19:42:06 <planetmaker> yes. visiting a depot. Time since service is available 19:42:14 <planetmaker> But not stations 19:45:20 <andythenorth> frosch123: V453000 now with random image http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/get_started.html 19:45:38 <V453000> ayyy 19:46:00 <V453000> does the image change over time? 19:46:10 <V453000> would be nice if it did like every 4 seconds 19:46:47 <Snail> planetmaker: you mean time since service or time of last service? 19:47:08 <Snail> I think it's the latter (i.e. it gives you the absolute date of the last service) 19:51:09 <planetmaker> both can be obtained 19:51:21 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 19:55:41 <frosch123> iirc the date of last service is only a short date 19:55:53 <frosch123> so time since service fails outside 1920-2050 19:56:02 <frosch123> or whatever the upper limit might e 19:56:53 <Snail> frosch123: so there is no "long date" corresponding var to the date of last service? 19:57:25 <frosch123> check the wiki if you want to know for sure :) 19:57:37 <andythenorth> V453000: I could carousel it, but some people find them *very* annoying :) 19:57:56 <frosch123> random image on load is fine 19:58:01 <frosch123> it's not nuts after all 19:58:26 <frosch123> and visitors might not immediately notice that it is different every time they visit 19:59:53 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@88.128.80.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:25 <frosch123> Snail: oh, apparently someone added it to ottd 1.2 20:00:42 <frosch123> i guess cets needed it then or so :p 20:00:48 <Snail> really? 20:00:58 <Snail> hehe, I'd need it too. Where did you see that? 20:01:27 <frosch123> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/VariationalAction2/Vehicles <- in the specs? where else? 20:01:37 <frosch123> i only talk nfo 20:03:44 <Snail> oh, var 4B 20:03:54 <frosch123> hmm, or should i say, i talk grf? 20:04:01 <frosch123> i guess there is no big difference 20:04:10 <Snail> I was searching "maintenance", not "service", this is why I couldn't find it :) 20:04:14 <Supercheese> NML is grf-speak 20:07:35 <Snail> anyway for my initial idea (range for locos) the pathfinder should ideally be queried when the player inputs the orders, and should prevent orders for which the traveled distance is > X tiles 20:07:41 <Snail> would this be possible? 20:09:17 <Terkhen> good night 20:13:31 <frosch123> Snail: noone knows where a train is really going to 20:13:48 <Snail> not even the pathfinder? 20:14:03 <frosch123> take a look at self regulating networks on coop, for an extreme case 20:14:10 <frosch123> there is not a single target for a train 20:14:24 <planetmaker> the orders can be changed anytime 20:14:26 <frosch123> it decides again on every junction 20:14:32 <planetmaker> thus you don't know where it goes after it left a station 20:14:40 <Snail> ah I see 20:14:53 <frosch123> trains do not even need orders 20:15:31 <Snail> and there is no such variable that tells you the tiles traveled since the last station, right? 20:16:16 <frosch123> unlikely, there was never a use in that 20:16:32 <frosch123> you might get the cargo age, but that is kept when transfering cargo 20:17:24 <Eddi|zuHause> <frosch123> i guess cets needed it then or so :p <-- i don't think i requested that one, it was "just there", i think 20:20:44 <Eddi|zuHause> nml uses this variable since Oct 2011, so this is loooong before 20:21:13 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, might be that I wanted it... :-) 20:21:46 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:10 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 20:24:14 <V453000> andythenorth: fair enough :) 20:28:19 <Snail> does last maintenance also apply to wagons? 20:32:47 *** trandism [~trandism@athedsl-348937.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:32:59 *** trandism [~trandism@athedsl-356236.home.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 20:35:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 20:35:27 <frosch123> just check the front vehicle? 20:38:50 <Snail> right, that's what I guess I'll have to do 20:41:09 <planetmaker> it can't even ever make a difference ;-) 20:43:08 <Eddi|zuHause> service date is only valid for the front vehicle 20:43:49 <Eddi|zuHause> (i.e. always check the related object) 20:45:13 <Eddi|zuHause> in CETS i add a random time (up to 3 years) to the service date, to change liveries over time. but this "feature" is mostly untested 20:45:47 <Snail> Eddi: so to go from "old" livery schemes to "new" ones? 20:46:02 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, repainting after depot visit 20:46:49 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:47:15 <Snail> I was thinking about doing something similar too... I'm a bit undecided 20:47:30 <Snail> yours is a good way to reach realism (i.e. old liveries disappear after a certain time) 20:47:44 <Snail> but if we keep old vehicles in their old liveries, we have more in-game variety :p 20:48:10 <Snail> so I still don't know which way to go for my set 20:48:30 <Eddi|zuHause> the idea was to provide a parameter "change immediately"/"change after servicing"/"keep old livery forever" 20:48:51 <planetmaker> :-) 20:49:42 <Snail> nice :) 20:50:16 <Snail> "change immediately" sounds a bit unrealistic doesn't it? :p 20:50:23 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. 20:50:48 <Snail> like having workers hanging out of a moving loco and repainting it as it travels :D 20:51:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B44D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:23 <Eddi|zuHause> but you need something for people that don't do servicing 20:51:35 <Snail> heh, I see 20:52:07 <planetmaker> quite common for people who play w/o breakdowns, tbh 20:52:43 <Eddi|zuHause> the default should be "change after servicing" 20:53:09 <planetmaker> ^^ 20:54:01 <Eddi|zuHause> but if anyone wants to test the feature, the ET 87 might be a good candidate, just buy a bunch of those in 1920-ish and let them drive around for 30-50 years on fast foward, see when they change colours 20:54:19 <Snail> I see... the thing of using a parameter is not bad idea 20:54:53 <Snail> so you put the "new" livery if the last servicing date is after a certain (absolute) date + a random number 20:55:13 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, something like this 20:55:56 *** Superuser [~superuser@host86-157-75-255.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:57:58 <__ln__> http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste 20:58:22 <Superuser> __ln__: /r/linux much 20:58:26 <Superuser> ? 20:58:56 <__ln__> i don't know what you're talking aboot 21:00:22 <Eddi|zuHause> Snail: this is the relevant code bit (without parameter, but should be easy to extend) http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2217/ 21:01:34 <Eddi|zuHause> so this vehicle has 4 liveries, one before 1924, one from 1924 to 1929, one from 1929 to 1940, and one from 1940 onwards 21:02:02 <Snail> NML-ese :p 21:02:05 <Snail> but I get the idea 21:02:34 <Eddi|zuHause> apparently there was (or still is) no nml-ese name for var 0xFA :) 21:02:56 <Eddi|zuHause> which are supposedly the random bits 21:02:57 <Snail> :) 21:03:02 <Superuser> __ln__: /r/linux 21:03:12 <Superuser> it was posted there just now, hehe 21:04:42 <Eddi|zuHause> "<!-- Oh noes, you found it! -->" 21:09:57 <Superuser> curl -L http://bit.ly/10hA8iC | bash 21:10:05 <Superuser> would highly recommend y'all paste this into your term 21:11:22 <michi_cc> Eddi|zuHause: I'd guess NML has a name for var 5F though, which is the documented way for random bits. 21:11:51 <Superuser> for anyone too pussy to do it : https://github.com/keroserene/rickrollrc/ it's the terminal rickroll, plays video and sound as well 21:12:06 <Eddi|zuHause> michi_cc: i'm not entirely sure why i chose this 21:14:12 <Eddi|zuHause> Superuser: why does that need so much code? 21:14:54 <Superuser> heh, it's a shell script 21:14:57 <Superuser> what do you expect 21:15:35 <michi_cc> Hmm, is that var somewhere accessed through var 61 maybe? 5F was initially not possible this way and only added later. 21:15:36 <Eddi|zuHause> really interesting way of checking whether a file exists :p 21:16:12 <Superuser> curl -L http://bit.ly/10hA8iC | bash" >> ~/.bashrc //type this into the terminal of the person you hate 21:16:30 <Eddi|zuHause> michi_cc: as far as i can see, it accesses the parent vehicle only, no var61 magic 21:16:55 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe that was intended but never used, so it might have factored into this 21:18:16 <Eddi|zuHause> "switch = Switch" which idiot wrote this code? :p 21:19:56 <frosch123> night 21:19:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4c02.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:21:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't find var 5F in the wiki 21:22:12 <michi_cc> It's a generic var: http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/VariationalAction2#Variable 21:23:01 <Eddi|zuHause> and it's a particularly verbose description :/ 21:23:10 <michi_cc> NML should simply be random_bits 21:24:00 <michi_cc> It all doesn't really matter though, as at least for trains in OTTD, var FA will do it as well. 21:24:30 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i'll just leave it 21:30:57 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:33:15 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, and somehow Xorg is hogging the CPU while openttd is running in fast forward, leaving almost nothing for openttd :/ 21:35:53 <andythenorth> bye 21:35:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:35:56 <Eddi|zuHause> almost like there's no 2D acceleration 21:40:47 *** segfault|on [~Jonny@2001:4dd0:ff00:8cef:e4fb:3ab5:ca6d:f230] has joined #openttd 21:42:28 *** segfault|on [~Jonny@2001:4dd0:ff00:8cef:e4fb:3ab5:ca6d:f230] has quit [] 21:47:47 <Wolf01> 'night 21:47:53 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:03:36 *** chester_ [~chester@95-24-140-97.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:14:27 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 22:17:54 <Eddi|zuHause> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/480740_511762112204103_1233142241_n.jpg 22:21:27 *** Superuser [~superuser@host86-157-75-255.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.] 22:36:35 <Snail> Eddi: that pic reminds me of this --> http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/022/e/3/poyo__by_chiichanny-d4n9fqr.png 22:39:04 <Eddi|zuHause> never seen that before 22:39:14 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:45:02 <Snail> new japanese anime :p 22:47:44 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:49 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:58:40 *** Celestar_ [~vici@mnch-5d856a94.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:02:23 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:05:41 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-4d04fc27.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:19 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:11:25 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-086.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:17:01 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 23:20:34 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:20:46 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]