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00:01:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:25:27 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-25.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 00:57:21 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:47:18 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:05:25 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 02:06:33 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:06:46 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 02:23:36 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:25:58 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:31:26 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:19 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 03:07:36 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 03:14:32 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 03:14:56 *** Speedy [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:37:09 *** Speedy` [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has joined #openttd 03:37:27 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 04:19:10 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.54.92] has joined #openttd 04:19:40 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.54.92] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 04:24:58 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.54.92] has joined #openttd 04:27:23 *** Speedy` [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has joined #openttd 04:27:45 *** Speedy [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:27:48 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 04:36:15 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD43BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD571E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:22:06 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.193.88.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:40:32 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:23:01 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 06:24:59 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 06:25:18 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host109-154-60-79.range109-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:26:14 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:28:37 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:32:40 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 06:34:16 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:36:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 06:37:35 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 06:49:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 06:49:40 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:51:55 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:53:48 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:55:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:57:55 <andythenorth> the title game is cheating :P 06:58:14 <andythenorth> it has rivers that can only be built in scenario editor 06:59:14 <V453000> and I forgot to disable the turtles I was testing so they are in the release version 06:59:15 <V453000> :D 06:59:34 <Supercheese> I like turtles 07:11:49 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:12:37 <andythenorth> planetmaker: I added name string reference here, so you can reverse lookup which industry uses a string http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html#industries 07:14:22 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-076-027.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 07:15:11 * andythenorth considers multi-lingual support for the docs :P 07:16:12 <V453000> olol 07:16:15 <V453000> :) 07:18:40 <andythenorth> ugh 07:18:41 <Supercheese> Well, the .lngs already cover most stuff 07:18:43 <andythenorth> unicode o_O 07:19:01 <Supercheese> other than the few sentences on the main page anyway 07:19:41 <blathijs> We should translate our code comments! :-) 07:20:32 <Supercheese> well, good night 07:20:41 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 07:21:53 <andythenorth> V453000: :P http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3602/docs/html/industries.html 07:22:38 <V453000> apart from fuckload of wtf characters, BauxitovÃÂœ dà ¯l I , I hate that language :P 07:23:04 <andythenorth> I'm a retard when it comes to unicode handling :P 07:23:26 <V453000> I shouldnt talk about that too much either :D 07:23:36 * andythenorth switches it back 07:23:44 <andythenorth> it's one piece of code to change it 07:23:55 <andythenorth> just load different lang file :P 07:25:43 <V453000> :) 07:28:42 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@84.40.82.221] has joined #openttd 07:30:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 07:31:33 *** Dr_Tan [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 07:36:46 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@84.40.82.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:37:01 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:41:33 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:01:20 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:20:42 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:22:45 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:35:41 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:43:11 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:30 <__ln__> are there other commonly known 'additional' C++ preprocessors similar to Qt's moc? 09:01:01 <TinoDidriksen> Not that I can think of. People have a serious bias against any extra build step. 09:02:34 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 09:03:29 <SpComb> cant't remember if arudino's ide did any preprocessing 09:03:48 <peter1139> moc stinks 09:04:15 <SpComb> Qt4's runtime signal type mismatch errors stink 09:06:14 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 09:10:14 <TinoDidriksen> MOC outputs Standard C++ - it's fine. 09:12:47 <peter1139> the problem is that it exists 09:13:23 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:20:16 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:21:22 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:31:13 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:49 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 09:38:47 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl6-135-216.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:38:56 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 09:39:13 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl6-135-216.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 09:48:33 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl6-135-216.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:49:11 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl6-135-216.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 10:07:28 *** trandism [~trandism@athedsl-356236.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:10:27 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-25.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 10:11:43 <peter1139> was there an OS that doesn't release memory when a program exists? 10:11:45 <peter1139> *exits 10:12:00 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 10:14:30 <Pinkbeast> peter: 8-bit BASICs? 10:18:17 <Sacro> AmigaOS? 10:18:28 <Sacro> I recall having to reboot the machine between different demos 10:18:37 <Sacro> until I got the 512K RAM upgrade 10:19:06 <TinoDidriksen> AmigaOS was special...rebooting multiple times could free up more resources. 10:21:46 <Sacro> beware the blinking caps lock 10:25:46 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 10:25:46 *** HellTiger_ [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 10:25:48 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [] 10:25:50 *** HellTiger_ [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [] 10:25:54 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 10:47:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD571E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 11:12:43 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:13:06 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 11:21:19 *** trandism [~trandism@serial.pressclipping.ondsl.gr] has joined #openttd 11:33:21 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD571E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:46:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD571E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 11:48:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD571E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:48:42 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:49:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD571E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 11:50:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD571E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:05:15 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 12:13:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C9E9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:19:48 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:29:11 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:02:41 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:12:17 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 13:29:08 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:31:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:37:00 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:37:16 *** goodger [~ben@host86-150-31-253.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:44:00 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:20 <andythenorth> now with info about industry cargos in each economy http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#port 13:58:09 *** Celestar_ [~vici@mnch-5d858f7b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:00:06 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-5d857da2.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:04:24 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 14:06:18 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:07:21 *** Celestar_ [~vici@mnch-5d858f7b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:48 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:15:57 <Ristovski> planetmaker: hmm, may I ask where the openttd titlegame is kept? 14:16:11 <Ristovski> I would like to open it and take a look at the masterpiece :D 14:21:24 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-5d856f15.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:22:20 <Eddi|zuHause> in the file called "opntitle.dat", just rename it to .sav and you can load it 14:25:53 <Ristovski> done, wow, that is an awesome map 14:29:20 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 14:37:56 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:00:03 <Eddi|zuHause> there is also an archive of all other submissions into the savegame contest 15:00:35 <Eddi|zuHause> finding it is left as an excercise to the reader. 15:02:29 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:03:51 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:03:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 15:05:18 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07:53 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 15:09:40 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-180-62.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:11:32 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 15:24:56 *** trandism [~trandism@serial.pressclipping.ondsl.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:26:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:29:15 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 15:45:03 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:49:05 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:54:55 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 15:58:38 <planetmaker> holla 16:00:21 <andythenorth> hi planetmaker 16:01:03 <planetmaker> I just saw your work on the firs string relation :-) Nice 16:01:22 <planetmaker> granted, the string naming... is also often very obvious :-) 16:02:10 <andythenorth> thanks ;) 16:02:14 <andythenorth> doing some other docs stuff now 16:05:25 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:04 *** trandism [~trandism@athedsl-356236.home.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 16:17:24 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:23:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5567.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:35:28 <planetmaker> quak :D 16:35:40 <frosch123> moin :) 16:36:45 <V453000> moo 16:37:59 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:38:26 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:45:42 <Terkhen> hello 16:52:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i think planetmaker turns into fjb :p 16:52:59 <andythenorth> herp 16:53:03 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: is that the sound that a unicorn does? 16:53:03 <frosch123> you mean fjb replaced pm? 16:53:04 <andythenorth> python sorting shenanigans 16:53:34 <V453000> idk ask frosch123 garage holder 16:53:36 <planetmaker> hm... :-) 16:53:53 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:57:19 <planetmaker> by which characteristica would that be defined, Eddi|zuHause ? 16:59:27 <frosch123> pff, you cannot trick us like that so easly, fjb 17:00:23 <frosch123> i hope you gave pm at least a copy of ottd when locking him to the cellar 17:01:39 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, that statistics is not entirely what i expected: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2220/ 17:02:28 <frosch123> what? i am last? :p 17:02:54 <Eddi|zuHause> no, there are a few more, but it drops really quickly after that :) 17:04:12 <Eddi|zuHause> that is since July 2007 17:04:17 <frosch123> why do your logs have more hits for me, than mine do? 17:04:33 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:04:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:05:02 <planetmaker> he, :D 17:05:13 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 17:05:51 <frosch123> ah, right, i have two log files 17:06:09 <Eddi|zuHause> apparently, my grep also counts "earthquake" :p 17:06:35 <frosch123> so, before 2009-12-18 there were actually only fjb and me 17:06:41 <Eddi|zuHause> [Mittwoch, 23. Juni 2010] [20:10:12] <frosch123> looks like there is "quak" in earthquakle 17:06:51 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: I have a dict structure like this, I want to iterate over it, sorted by 'economies', think of a way? I can't manage to write a valid lambda sort so far http://paste.openttdcoop.org/raw/2221/ 17:07:57 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: yeah, that highlighted me :) 17:08:24 <andythenorth> I could change the structure so the economies are the keys, and iterate over those 17:08:27 <andythenorth> is one solution 17:08:52 <andythenorth> those tuples are disposable 17:09:00 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: "lambda x: x['economies']"? 17:09:12 <Eddi|zuHause> as "key" 17:09:56 <V453000> ha :D 17:10:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. sorted(list, key = lambda blah: blah['economies']) or something 17:10:17 <andythenorth> tried that, barfs 17:10:27 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: barfs on what? 17:10:47 <andythenorth> 1 min 17:11:15 <andythenorth> TypeError: tuple indices must be integers, not str 17:11:24 <andythenorth> it's trying to get into the tuple that acts as the key? 17:11:38 <andythenorth> maybe I need to stick iteritems() in somewhere 17:11:43 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: have a more complete code example? 17:11:53 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i have a feeling the error is in a different place 17:12:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B0D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:11 <andythenorth> you don't read my templating language :P 17:12:14 <andythenorth> but I'll make one 17:13:02 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: list.iteritems() 17:13:37 <Eddi|zuHause> and then key = lambda key, value: value['economies'] 17:13:46 <Eddi|zuHause> or list.itervalues() and stuff 17:14:19 <Eddi|zuHause> but it's difficult to know without some actually run-able example 17:17:26 <andythenorth> think the lambda you gave me will work 17:20:28 *** KBuris|Work [~opera@static-71-127-241-52.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:20:54 <KBuris|Work> Hi everyone. I 17:21:41 <frosch123> welcome, you are our 128th member. you have won the 7th bit 17:22:31 <KBuris|Work> Aw, thank you! I'd like to thank all 127 people who acted as stepping stones to my win! :-P 17:24:09 <KBuris|Work> I'm not a programmer, but I decided to go through the changelog between 1.2.3 and 1.3.0 - and I saw something in the changelog. "...Cargo lists cannot have genders..." - Is gender some part of the code as it is in terms of, say, romance languages, or an actual thing like differences between male and female passengers enabled? 17:24:14 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:25:02 <glx> KBuris|Work: translation stuff 17:26:06 <Eddi|zuHause> KBuris|Work: gender is a concept of our grammar engine for translations 17:27:10 <Eddi|zuHause> KBuris|Work: see http://wiki.openttd.org/FormatOfLangfiles for details 17:27:48 <frosch123> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_gender <- a wiki link might be more helpful though :p 17:28:31 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1A3E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:31:45 <Eddi|zuHause> KBuris|Work: the point of that commit message, however is, that this feature will not work for lists of cargos, because each cargo may have a different gender, and there is no automatic way to deduct the gender of the complete list 17:32:04 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:32:48 <Eddi|zuHause> since there is no way, the author of that commit decided to not even try 17:33:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B0D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:49 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 17:36:50 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:40:23 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:40:26 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:41:00 <Alberth> moin 17:41:55 <frosch123> hai 17:43:18 <planetmaker> o/ 17:43:58 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:10 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:9d63:dc13:b3db:fa15] has joined #openttd 17:45:20 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25177 /trunk/src/lang (faroese.txt hungarian.txt) (2013-04-11 17:45:12 UTC) 17:45:21 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> faroese - 54 changes by FastNinja 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> hungarian - 2 changes by IPG 17:45:26 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:51:35 <KBuris|Work> I see. Coolness. 17:51:46 <andythenorth> hmm 17:51:51 <andythenorth> I must be making a web app 17:51:57 <andythenorth> 50% of my code is to do with sort order 17:52:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A3E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53:36 <Eddi|zuHause> sorting is one of the most common jobs in computer science for a reason 17:55:46 <andythenorth> expanded the cargos page to show details for each economy (all sorted in A-Z) :P http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/cargos.html 17:56:27 <andythenorth> ho ho, maybe I should use the cargo icons from in-game, next to each cargo here: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html 17:56:40 <andythenorth> maybe I should do something useful instead :P 17:58:36 <andythenorth> links at the top right, which is more useful: "Source Repository" or "Translate FIRS" ? 17:59:42 <KBuris|Work> Just looked at that... Does FIRS not support the Coal -> Power Plant line? 17:59:47 <andythenorth> nope 18:01:15 <frosch123> andythenorth: add the cargo colour as colour :p 18:01:34 <andythenorth> urgh 18:01:38 <andythenorth> rainbow :P 18:01:43 <andythenorth> appropriate for NUTS though 18:01:47 <Eddi|zuHause> KBuris|Work: allegedly, power plants are boring :p 18:02:06 <andythenorth> allegedly you could add your own in an add-on grf :P 18:02:07 <andythenorth> V453000: where is your auto-generated documentation? 18:02:21 <andythenorth> nobody cared enough to make a stupidly simple grf that turns back on default power plant :P 18:02:29 <frosch123> anyway, i always wonder whether there is any schema behind industry map colours 18:02:32 <frosch123> is there in firs? :) 18:02:37 <andythenorth> hmm 18:02:55 <andythenorth> I tried to keep original colours for copies of original industries 18:03:04 <andythenorth> then I try to make each colour legible on the map 18:03:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i think ECS tried to use colour groups per vector 18:03:25 <andythenorth> I try to make forests green, mines brown / black etc 18:03:37 <andythenorth> town industries have to be yellow or white, or they can't be seen 18:03:38 <frosch123> [19:58] <andythenorth> links at the top right, which is more useful: "Source Repository" or "Translate FIRS" ? <- add a "contribute" link, which links to the devzone page, which then links to repository or translations 18:03:53 <andythenorth> maybe 18:04:20 <frosch123> also replace "discuss" with "flame"? 18:04:32 <frosch123> or "troll"? 18:04:35 <andythenorth> 'annoy' 18:04:40 <andythenorth> 'request features' 18:05:00 <Alberth> 'demand changes' 18:05:08 <frosch123> "order unicorns" 18:05:16 <Alberth> yes! 18:05:25 <Alberth> request ponies 18:05:32 <andythenorth> I could randomise the text 18:05:37 <V453000> andythenorth: I autogenerate it manually :P 18:05:39 <Alberth> :) 18:05:44 <andythenorth> V453000: lame :) 18:05:49 <KBuris|Work> I'll be honest, I tend to play with either vanilla or OpenTTD+ Industries, and I like to set up a Coal-Power and a Diamonds/Gold-Bank line first, to set myself up early and then expand into stuff like subsidies and interesting station constructions. 18:06:18 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 18:07:12 <frosch123> KBuris|Work: we only play firs/nuts/nocargoal :p 18:09:21 <planetmaker> tehehe. Nearly true for recent times :D 18:10:08 <frosch123> though we got two new ideas for gs 18:10:23 <frosch123> though i still doubt the vehicle thingie has replayability 18:12:21 <planetmaker> hm, what's the new ideas? 18:12:35 <frosch123> you weren't around? 18:12:53 <KBuris|Work> Well, as long as you leave it in for the rest of us. 18:13:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.161.159] has joined #openttd 18:13:35 <frosch123> 1) build at least one vehicle of every engine type, and make them do at least twice the profit compared to running cost 18:14:14 <planetmaker> I was not around then, it seems... 18:14:21 <planetmaker> or I have a faulty memory :D 18:14:41 <frosch123> 2) allcargoal: transport as much cargos as possible, the cargotype with the lowest amount per quarter decides for the medal 18:14:41 <Alberth> or both :) 18:15:10 <planetmaker> or both :-P 18:15:18 <planetmaker> allcargoal sounds fun :-) 18:15:27 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:15:28 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:33 <planetmaker> but needs serious thinking on balancing with e.g. default cargos 18:15:41 <planetmaker> you hardly can transport as much gold as passangers 18:16:00 <frosch123> that's exactly the idea behind it :) 18:16:09 <frosch123> it removes the randomness of nocargoal 18:16:16 <planetmaker> hm 18:16:27 <frosch123> and makes the goals for deterministically 18:16:41 <planetmaker> that makes it the same thing every time, though: get all gold moved. And connect one of every other industry 18:16:59 <frosch123> yeah, also true :p 18:17:02 <Alberth> frosch123: hmm, that sounds a bit like a GS by Zuu http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=57877 18:18:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C9E9.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:18:20 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has left #openttd [] 18:18:53 <frosch123> planetmaker: well, maybe none of the ideas are good :p 18:19:17 <andythenorth> min. profit? 18:19:21 <andythenorth> (operating profit) 18:19:37 <andythenorth> frosch123: I think SV is under-played 18:19:39 <andythenorth> I like SV 18:19:53 <andythenorth> it encourages a wider range of cargo types, not just 3 like NCG 18:20:14 <planetmaker> frosch123, the idea with the engines might actually 18:20:23 <andythenorth> it also makes for one insane route-building problem in a town 18:20:30 <planetmaker> and if it's only to play test the vehicle NewGRF. For a sane balancing of them 18:20:42 <frosch123> hmm... min. profit... how about: maximize profit, while minimizing profit of the most profitable vehicle? :p 18:20:53 <planetmaker> :D 18:21:00 <frosch123> should result in mass-transfer stuff :o 18:21:23 <planetmaker> which in itself is fun :-) 18:22:19 <frosch123> [20:20] <planetmaker> and if it's only to play test the vehicle NewGRF. For a sane balancing of them <- yeah, someone has the idea to make it a requirement to be allowed to upload stuff to bananas :p 18:22:57 <planetmaker> :DDD 18:24:29 <andythenorth> frosch123: interesting 18:25:02 <Eddi|zuHause> random idea: subsidies should be generated before game start, so you can get some with your initial line, instead of wait for them to appear 18:26:11 <KBuris|Work> bbl 18:26:13 *** KBuris|Work [~opera@static-71-127-241-52.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has left #openttd [] 18:28:55 <andythenorth> planetmaker: do I need to specify which GCC? http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html#compiling 18:30:50 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:07 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: since it's only the preprocessor, there shouldn't have been any significant changes to that in the last 30 years 18:32:45 <andythenorth> he :) 18:33:10 <planetmaker> yeah. Shouldn't matter 18:33:11 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: except that all nfo grf fail to compile with gcc 4.6 18:33:26 <frosch123> or 4.7? 18:33:34 *** alandarev [~alandarev@90.200.64.179] has joined #openttd 18:33:40 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: why does every ID end with a "d"? 18:33:42 <planetmaker> or 4.8 :D 18:33:48 <alandarev> can I Start the gamescript in the game if it crashed? 18:33:55 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: "decimal" 18:33:56 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: because they're not h? 18:34:00 <alandarev> dbg: [script] The script died unexpectedly. 18:34:01 <alandarev> One of the running scripts crashed. Please report this to the script author with a screenshot of the AI/Game Script Debug Window 18:34:07 <alandarev> and since it is dedicated server I can't see anything 18:34:37 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i think that's a very uncommno format 18:34:40 <frosch123> alandarev: you might try loading an autosave, where it did not yet crash 18:35:06 <alandarev> frosch123: that is the problem, it was workign fine, but it crashes if i use Save games :( (City Builder) 18:35:13 <Eddi|zuHause> alandarev: there may be an ai debuglevel you can set 18:35:18 <andythenorth> maybe I should translate them to hex? 18:35:54 <alandarev> Eddi|zuHause: no idea 18:36:17 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: just put "dec" in the column title, instead of repeating it on every entry 18:37:06 * andythenorth tries it 18:37:12 <andythenorth> I wouldn't have known what that was tbh 18:37:17 <andythenorth> when I started writing newgrf 18:38:22 <andythenorth> done though 18:39:00 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:40:00 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d820e30.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:16 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: better? http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html#compiling 18:44:06 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 18:46:03 <andythenorth> time to do something else 18:46:07 <andythenorth> MP game? :P 18:51:26 <planetmaker> andythenorth, nmlc 0.3 18:52:33 * andythenorth amends docs 19:06:49 *** chester_ [~chester@128-69-164-203.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:15:20 * andythenorth is trying to write translation instructions 19:15:23 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:16:32 <__ln__> good news everyone, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9985757/Iranian-scientist-claims-to-have-invented-time-machine.html 19:17:04 <frosch123> wow, he moved the whole of iran into medieval? 19:21:42 <planetmaker> alandarev, new things are not created by magic from thin air? :-( 19:21:42 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 19:21:47 <planetmaker> ups... Alberth ^ 19:22:26 * Alberth hopes so very much in being wrong 19:22:49 <planetmaker> :-) 19:23:16 <Alberth> although I don't care about 32bpp at all 19:23:40 <planetmaker> I believe it's not used to what could be done with it yet. 19:23:52 <planetmaker> currently as we have it put to use, it's not much of a gain 19:24:32 <Alberth> that's likely, people have to adjust in how to use the new possibilities 19:27:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.233.3.31] has joined #openttd 19:27:11 <Wolf01> hello o/ 19:29:44 <andythenorth> makes sense? http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/translations.html 19:30:30 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 19:31:45 <planetmaker> I want to mark German as 'up to date' D 19:31:59 <frosch123> andythenorth: maybe link to a translation howto page? 19:32:00 <Alberth> andythenorth: the bold "Or" is somewhat weird, it looks a lot like the next item 19:32:20 <andythenorth> oh :| 19:34:21 <frosch123> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Language_files <- that one or so 19:34:59 <frosch123> http://wiki.openttd.org/FormatOfLangfiles#Translations <- or that one 19:37:18 <Alberth> or this one http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/eints/repository/entry/docs/strings.rst 19:38:04 <frosch123> oh, that one looks better 19:38:10 <andythenorth> Alberth: we need to ship that app :) 19:38:13 <frosch123> the other two are more for devs 19:38:13 <andythenorth> then I can just link to it 19:38:52 <Alberth> +1 19:46:39 <andythenorth> Alberth: better (no Or) http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/translations.html 19:46:41 <andythenorth> ? 19:48:37 <Alberth> yes. Do you want new translations mostly? The "Get Base Language File" button is very tempty to push :) 19:49:41 <planetmaker> hm... get browser locale and link to the appropriate status report :D 19:49:48 <planetmaker> with a similarily big blue button :-) 19:51:19 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 19:51:35 <andythenorth> I actually want updates to existing translations 19:51:42 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.193.88.212] has joined #openttd 19:51:43 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:44 <planetmaker> :-) 19:51:46 <andythenorth> currently every time I compile I am spammed by 30 warnings 19:51:54 <andythenorth> which irritates me immensely 19:52:11 <Supercheese> Any way to tell the compiler, "duplicate English strings are purposely missing, ignore"? 19:52:18 * andythenorth is tempted to delete some translations :P 19:52:21 <planetmaker> nml needs a switch for --ignore-lang-warnings? 19:53:04 <planetmaker> Supercheese, how can duplicate strings be missing? 19:53:31 <Supercheese> Base UK_English strings that do not require translating for US_English are omitted in the US_English file 19:53:38 <Supercheese> purposely 19:53:55 <Supercheese> yet that probably throws a compiler warning 19:55:48 <planetmaker> ah that 19:56:04 <planetmaker> those few bytes don't hurt 19:56:10 <planetmaker> just copy it 19:56:19 <andythenorth> I told him off for that ;) 19:56:30 <Supercheese> I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't T_T 19:56:34 <planetmaker> lol :D 19:56:48 <planetmaker> catch 22, classical example 20:06:14 <Alberth> I doubt it's a warning, more likely it is a true error in the translation 20:07:48 <planetmaker> yes. But it's a warning in nmlc. At least currently 20:08:40 <frosch123> [21:51] <andythenorth> currently every time I compile I am spammed by 30 warnings <- weren't you into colouring? 20:08:44 <frosch123> make them black on black 20:08:47 <andythenorth> :) 20:09:03 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe the lang format needs a way to tell "use STR_XXX from <language>" 20:09:06 <andythenorth> should I commit *that* to nml? :P 20:09:19 <andythenorth> (black on black) 20:09:26 <Eddi|zuHause> not entirely sure what that would solve, though 20:11:43 <Alberth> planetmaker: which is ok imho; nml decides to ignore given translations, and warns that it does that 20:14:41 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:15:58 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:18:44 <andythenorth> right, what next? o_O 20:19:00 *** somaen [somaen@dash8.pvv.ntnu.no] has left #openttd [] 20:19:33 <frosch123> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2219/ <- if i finish that tool, do you code bananas 2 ? 20:19:33 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 20:20:09 <andythenorth> I'll do the UI 20:20:17 <andythenorth> you don't want my code, really 20:20:44 <frosch123> so, we need to keep on trying to trick zuu and albert into it :) 20:20:50 <andythenorth> and TrueBrain! 20:20:52 <andythenorth> and Rubidium ! 20:20:58 <andythenorth> what tricks are there? 20:21:11 <frosch123> r25k cake or so 20:21:12 <andythenorth> Alberth: what stops eints being in production? Testing? User management? 20:21:18 <Supercheese> Money $ 20:21:22 <Supercheese> or wait, ⬠20:21:29 <Alberth> Supercheese: time 20:21:38 <frosch123> Supercheese: ottd is not about making money :p 20:21:41 <Alberth> andythenorth: it needs a coupling to red mine 20:21:42 <Rubidium> thus money 20:21:47 <Supercheese> time = money 20:21:52 <Rubidium> after all, time = money ;) 20:21:57 <frosch123> women = root of all evil 20:22:31 <frosch123> i skipped the steps in between, i assume you all know them :) 20:23:14 <andythenorth> Alberth: redmine for...? User authentication? 20:23:17 <Alberth> andythenorth: verifying user credentials, so you have control who translates your strings from red mine :) 20:23:26 <Supercheese> blah, Firefox update 20:23:49 <Supercheese> brb 20:23:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.161.159] has joined #openttd 20:23:52 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24:22 <Alberth> FF update needs quitting irc? :o 20:24:37 <andythenorth> redmine can act as an SSO provider? Or we use apache auth or something? 20:24:45 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 20:25:28 <Alberth> more likely, you can access its db :D 20:25:59 <andythenorth> hmm 20:26:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.161.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:27:58 <Alberth> needs a few simple functions in a new webtranslate/users/redmine.py file, and hookup in webtranslate/users/__init__.py 20:28:05 <frosch123> andythenorth: redmine stores passwords as sha1 hash 20:28:18 <frosch123> so you need to compute the checksum ,and query the db to compare 20:29:01 <andythenorth> we can't just authenticate on eints if you're authenticated on redmine? 20:29:02 <frosch123> sounds easy, but unfortuantelly you need quite some infrastructure for testing :) 20:29:14 * andythenorth has severe distrust of SSO 20:29:45 <frosch123> night 20:29:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5567.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:18 <Alberth> almost, but too many users starting with 'f' here :p 20:32:14 <Alberth> I don't make the rules at openttdcoop :) 20:33:00 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:43 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:34:53 <andythenorth> he's too fast for me 20:37:57 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:37:59 <Eddi|zuHause> <Alberth> FF update needs quitting irc? :o <-- only if you're silly enough to use firefox plugins for chatting 20:38:24 <Alberth> :) 20:38:28 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 20:39:46 <Alberth> hi Zuu 20:39:59 <Zuu> Hello Alberth 20:44:41 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:59 <Kjetil> why would you put irc in your browser ? 20:55:19 <Zuu> The FIRS doc website is impressive. 20:56:15 <Zuu> Kjetil: Because you can, or because you don't want to install a stand alone client. 20:56:44 <andythenorth> I had for a long time in mind generating the docs from the code 20:56:54 <planetmaker> @ports 20:56:54 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 21:05:58 <Eddi|zuHause> Kjetil: some people put whole OSes in the browser 21:11:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.161.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12:08 <Kjetil> Eddi|zuHause: but why ? 21:12:23 <Kjetil> haven't they heard about multitasking ? :P 21:12:23 <Eddi|zuHause> because they're silly? 21:12:34 <Kjetil> ;) 21:14:58 *** chester_ [~chester@128-69-164-203.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:28:30 *** alandarev [~alandarev@90.200.64.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:31:45 <Terkhen> good night 21:32:57 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:37:52 <andythenorth> bye 21:37:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:38:05 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:44:50 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:53:18 <Wolf01> 'night 21:53:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:57:07 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:19:04 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 22:36:46 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:07 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:38:12 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:44:55 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:56 *** Celestar_ [~vici@mnch-4d04c1f1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:01:29 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-076-027.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:01:56 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-5d856f15.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:13:46 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:14:45 *** FastNinja [d9ac5749@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:20:26 <FastNinja> nmlc.exe seems very unhappy with any english.lng file I use. I get errors such as: nmlc ERROR: Language file "lang\english.lng": The default language file contains non-utf8 characters. and after I change to utf-8: nmlc ERROR: "lang\english.lng", line 1: Line has no ':' delimiter. Totally new to this, what am I missing? 23:23:01 <Eddi|zuHause> FastNinja: so, can you actually post your file, or do we have to use our crystal balls? 23:26:03 <FastNinja> It is the english.lng file from the latest nightly build 23:32:00 <Eddi|zuHause> you cannot use openttd .lng files 23:33:14 <FastNinja> Oh. So I am supposed to write my own? 23:33:42 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. with at least your GRF name and GRF description in them 23:36:19 <__ln__> there's mario music so i bet this is banned in germany, but... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOCurBYI_gY 23:37:33 <FastNinja> ok thanks :) 23:38:02 <Eddi|zuHause> looks like this is not banned ;) 23:38:10 <Eddi|zuHause> (yet) 23:38:18 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 23:41:03 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:43:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:54:57 <Eddi|zuHause> haha, the end is great :p 23:55:37 <Supercheese> Too bad it was Tetris and not Tic Tac Toe 23:55:45 <Supercheese> but yeah 23:56:52 <Eddi|zuHause> tic tac toe is an easily fully computed game 23:57:09 <Eddi|zuHause> there are only like 3^9 possible game states 23:57:54 <Eddi|zuHause> so throwing an adaptive algorithm like this onto it would probably be boring