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01:49:57  <michael_> Hello?
01:50:35  <michael_> I can't seem to buy train engines in OpenTTD, however I can buy train carrages and I don't know why.
01:50:59  <Eddi|zuHause> what year are you in?
01:51:49  <michael_> uh, 10,010 XD
01:52:58  <Eddi|zuHause> did you try changing railtypes? click and hold the rail icon in the main toolbar
01:53:17  <michael_> It's set for railroad
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01:53:43  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but there are apparently no conventional rail vehilces left, so try maglev instead
01:54:13  <michael_> Meaning I have to completely rebuild my railroad?
01:54:15  <michael_> Crap
01:55:34  <michael_> is there an easy way to replace rails?
01:55:37  <Eddi|zuHause> you can use the convert tool
01:55:43  <Eddi|zuHause> it's on the right of the toolbar
01:56:01  <Eddi|zuHause> just drag and drop this over your rails
01:56:14  <Eddi|zuHause> and it will convert everything to the new railtype
01:56:41  <Eddi|zuHause> (unless it has a train on it that can't drive on the new railtype)
01:58:47  <michael_> okay, thanks
02:01:58  <michael_> can Maize be carried in a grain hopper?
02:02:18  <michael_> nvm
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09:06:55  <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/dvfr8SD.png
09:07:02  <NGC3982> I'm not really understanding what's going on here.
09:07:16  <NGC3982> I have autoreplaced the 40' Tank Car with the newer Oljetank
09:07:25  <peter1138> obviously not, it's in the wrong language
09:07:42  <NGC3982> But only a part of the trains autoreplace, and it does not seem to continue replacing the last of the wagons.
09:08:03  <NGC3982> What am i missing? :)
09:18:15  <NGC3982> Ah, it worked itself out.
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10:55:11  <__ln__> does it currently make sense to travel to Venice, as Leipzig and Prague are closer
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11:02:06  <Eddi|zuHause> opposing to Leipzig, Halle has nice hills where you can admire the whole beauty :)
11:03:10  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not even sure how the situation is in Leipzig, it has only "small" rivers :)
11:03:42  <Eddi|zuHause> i only hear stuff from Dresden, Dessau or Bitterfeld
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12:18:55  <Samu> http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/10158004/?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=launcher&utm_campaign=sc2&utm_content=left-banner
12:19:25  <Samu> finally my 7 GB patch of unaccessable content had a meaning
12:20:45  <Samu> owners of hots are probably pissed off anyway
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12:33:50  <Samu> heck, even I should be pissed off, starter edition turns into hots...
12:34:04  <Samu> €0 = €60 = €120
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12:43:38  <planetmaker> psst, starcraft is quite off-topic here
12:44:21  <planetmaker> especially if only monologued about
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13:13:05  <Terkhen> hello
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14:06:55  <Belugas> hello
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15:53:52  <Samu> anyone here interested on some of my AI testings?
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16:00:59  <planetmaker> as said... forums is a good place....
16:02:06  <Samu> ok, ok i have to talk to orudge, is he there?
16:05:46  <Samu> i'm gonna be banned... i just know it, happens everytime
16:06:20  <V453000> surprising
16:07:01  <Samu> why?
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16:08:58  <V453000> yes
16:09:35  <Samu> bah, screw u
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17:08:53  <Samu> awww for the first time AroAI ruined its perfect score
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17:13:06  <Samu> convoy too, are they based on each other?
17:21:53  <Zuu> Convoy is from the time of the dutch AI competition. AroAI is newer and made by LordAro. However, I don't know if LordAro has been inspired by Convoy or not.
17:22:29  <Samu> hi zuu, ty
17:22:55  <Samu> aroai and convoy are now tied with a 1,92 score
17:23:23  <Samu> just an average of scores where the max is 2,00
17:25:46  <Samu> clueless just finished testing, +2 points
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17:28:44  <Samu> 1,83 average for CluelessPlus
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17:33:57  <Samu> waiting for 3 other AIs to finish, I'm already bored
17:38:57  <Samu> glx, do you know what is waveoutWrite failed?
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17:45:20  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25325 /trunk/src/lang (traditional_chinese.txt unfinished/persian.txt) (2013-06-07 17:45:12 UTC)
17:45:21  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:22  <DorpsGek> traditional_chinese - 55 changes by siu238X
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17:45:24  <DorpsGek> persian - 120 changes by rkarimabadi
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17:46:58  <Samu> a bit of guidance, i'm exploring windows events, there's some logs located at Microsoft\Windows\Audio\Operational with errors and warnings
17:47:25  <Samu> the warning says
17:48:41  <Samu> "windows audio found an error while processing a device event"
17:49:31  <Samu> ID do Evento     : 0x0x8004 (DBT_DEVICEREMOVECOMPLETE)
17:49:43  <Samu> Código de Falha : 0x0xE0000225
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17:50:29  <Alberth> moin
17:51:21  <Samu> hi
17:52:00  <frosch123> hai albert
17:55:35  <Rubidium> Samu: no idea what it is, but as far as I understand the google results of "0x0xE0000225" it's not related to OpenTTD
17:57:38  <Samu> truth be told, it happens more often with OpenTTD running than any other program
17:57:49  <Samu> but I undestand
17:58:11  <Samu> it also happens with flash videos
17:58:12  <Alberth> openttd only has big positive numbers :p
17:59:04  <Samu> I swear I'm not blaming it on you
17:59:22  <Rubidium> it might be that the problem happens more often when multiple sounds are played at once
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18:00:11  <Samu> I know for once when I was still playing sc2 and d2 for hours straight, I'd rarely if ever I got into these problems
18:00:29  <Samu> something is triggering
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18:01:07  <Alberth> unfortunately, lack of problems does not really prove correctness
18:01:26  <Alberth> it just means openttd uses your machine resources differently
18:01:26  <Samu> if i could understand how audio works
18:02:05  <Samu> directsound and waveout, are they the same thing? different things?
18:02:56  <Samu> they co-exist?
18:03:03  <Alberth> don't expect an answer from me, I don't use Windows :)
18:03:10  <Samu> oh :( sorry
18:05:31  <Alberth> no problem :)
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18:41:06  <Wolf01> o/
18:43:08  <Alberth> o/
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19:05:09  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25326 trunk/src/strgen/strgen_base.cpp (2013-06-07 19:05:04 UTC)
19:05:10  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5589]: check for zero width space in translations and fail upon finding them
19:05:24  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25327 trunk/src/lang/danish.txt (2013-06-07 19:05:19 UTC)
19:05:25  <DorpsGek> -Fix: remove zero width space
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19:10:14  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25328 trunk/src/lang/unfinished/urdu.txt (2013-06-07 19:10:08 UTC)
19:10:15  <DorpsGek> -Fix: remove zero width space from Urdu (unfinished) as well
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20:04:13  <Samu> sorry, had to leave for a short while
20:06:10  <Rubidium> you don't have to be sorry, I'm not sorry either
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20:19:14  <Rubidium> why doesn't qemu have hardware acceleration?
20:20:15  <Rubidium> like Intel CPUs already emulate x86, why can't they simply emulate some other architectures in hardware/micro ops as well? ;)
20:23:52  <frosch123> a hardware valgrind would also be nice
20:24:29  <Eddi|zuHause> just program it, can't be that hard :p
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20:32:10  <Samu> is there an easy way to count how many road vehicles I have inside a depot?
20:32:44  <Alberth> sell them all, then you have 0
20:33:05  <Rubidium> start at 0 and for every vehicle increment the count by one (easiest method)
20:33:11  <frosch123> save, look at company gui, sell them all, look at guy again, visit elementary school, learn subteacting
20:33:27  <Samu> 5*11 =
20:33:39  <Eddi|zuHause> 67
20:33:52  <Samu> ty
20:34:28  <Eddi|zuHause> (where were we at visiting elementary school?)
20:34:56  <frosch123> it might work with base 9
20:35:25  <Rubidium> frosch123: sadly enough, with 11 it doesn't (by definition)
20:35:37  <Samu> oops, i went bankrupt
20:36:11  <Alberth> Rubidium:  says who?  C had 8 and 9 octal numbers for years!
20:37:34  <Rubidium> Alberth: if you have X*11, then in whatever base you have that supports X, you will have XX as result
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20:37:54  <Rubidium> unless you're changing base in the answer... but that'd be kinda cheating
20:38:49  * Alberth is convinced now
20:39:20  <Rubidium> though 67 base 8 = 55 base 10
20:40:20  <Eddi|zuHause> (how did i know it would stir up exactly this discussion?)
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20:47:16  <Terkhen> good night
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20:58:43  <Samu> this crash report http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5568?project=1
20:58:56  <Samu> were you able to reproduce?
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21:08:08  <Samu> nevermind, I have a more intriguing question - how many consecutively sounds can you play in 1 second on openttd?
21:08:35  <Samu> *consecutive, sequential
21:09:05  <Samu> or, what is the minimum delay possible between a sound effect and another
21:09:33  <Eddi|zuHause> there is a number of parallel sound effects.
21:10:01  <Samu> i know sometimes the sounds play at the same time
21:10:04  <Eddi|zuHause> but once a sound effect ends, a new one can start. there is no "delay" (other than the general tick)
21:10:38  <Eddi|zuHause> so number of ticks per second times number of parallel sound effects
21:11:24  <Samu> i'm gonna try to record game audio, i'm not being too clear with my explanation
21:12:31  <Samu> noticed a delay with the choochoo trains from nars
21:12:54  <Samu> do you notice as well?
21:13:14  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't really play NARS
21:13:55  <Samu> how does the game manage sounds if I fastforward
21:14:02  <Samu> ah... parallel
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21:27:52  <Samu> ok, when you click a button many times that plays a 'beep' sound
21:28:02  <Samu> railway construction for example
21:28:39  <Samu> can you hear the many distinct times you clicked or do you sometimes hear the beep 'stacking' on top of another 'beep'?
21:29:28  <Samu> so, a louder 'beep'
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21:30:42  * Alberth switched 'beeps' off a long time ago
21:31:02  <Samu> :( but how would it normaly work?
21:31:23  <Eddi|zuHause> only one click is handled per tick
21:31:52  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: I wouldn't be sure about that
21:32:41  <Rubidium> each event calls HandleMouseEvents
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21:33:00  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, possibly :)
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21:53:31  <Samu> uploading sound demo, it records exactly as I hear
21:56:11  <Samu> don't call me crazy: https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=23b29f3de45f6f1f#cid=23B29F3DE45F6F1F&id=23B29F3DE45F6F1F%21474
21:56:25  <Eddi|zuHause> you are crazy
21:56:27  <Samu> :(
21:56:35  <Eddi|zuHause> but i can't access skydrive
21:56:41  <Samu> ow
21:56:52  <Samu> it's a mp4 video 740 kb where do i upload
21:58:19  <Samu> try ths shorter link http://sdrv.ms/15I9odb
21:58:35  <Eddi|zuHause> it's not the link, it's the website
21:58:44  <Samu> website is https :(
21:59:00  <Eddi|zuHause> whatever it does, it doesn't like no-javascript
21:59:07  <Eddi|zuHause> just shows blank page
22:05:23  <Samu> skydrive was processing video
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22:05:40  <Samu> meh... where can I upload this without having to register
22:05:55  <Eddi|zuHause> don't bother
22:07:31  <Rubidium> NSA/FBI?
22:07:46  <Samu> creating an account
22:07:56  <Samu> i hate to create accounts everywhere I go
22:12:46  <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r25329 trunk/src/vehicle.cpp (2013-06-07 22:12:39 UTC)
22:12:46  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5582]: for refreshing next hops implicit orders are equivalent to explicit stopping orders
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22:16:55  <Samu> just now, audiodg.exe was averaging 8% cpu usage with openttd running. I exited openttd.exe and the average is now 0.35%
22:17:26  <Samu> let me reopen
22:19:02  <Samu> nice
22:19:33  <Samu> 0.00
22:19:38  <Samu> I just don't get anything of this...
22:19:53  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't, either
22:21:06  <Samu> i want to find what's causing this problem even if I have to kill myself in the process
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22:22:59  <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r25330 trunk/src/economy.cpp (2013-06-07 22:22:52 UTC)
22:23:00  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5583]: return some reserved cargo if vehicle is overloaded by station stopping acceptance for cargo scheduled to be delivered
22:23:48  <FLHerne> Samu: But then you wouldn't be able to prevent the cause, nor to tell someone else about it :P
22:24:02  <Samu> :)
22:25:10  <Eddi|zuHause> "Spain built a submarine that might not be able to resurface, because someone misplaced a decimal point in a calculation"
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22:26:32  <Eddi|zuHause> one doesn't pay attention for two months, and suddenly weird people get commit access :p
22:28:57  <FLHerne> I was (incompetently) patchpack-making, and managed to create a bug - when typing into text-entry boxes, it instead behaves as if I had a modifier key held down and pops up random windows :-/
22:29:23  <FLHerne> Anyone know where I ought to be looking for borked-ness?
22:29:30  <Eddi|zuHause> editboxes massively changed in the past months
22:29:53  <FLHerne> Ah, that would explain why I managed to break them :D
22:30:36  <FLHerne> At least it's the weekend now
22:30:54  <planetmaker> easy to break ;-) even by things like  improved palette support ;-)
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22:41:50  <frosch123> night
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22:48:25  <Wolf01> 'night
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22:50:15  <Samu> i'm gonna try reporting the sound issue on asus rog forum, but i bet the answer i'm getting will be overclock related :/
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23:47:29  <Samu> :)
23:48:02  <Samu> http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?33352-Windows-Audio-encountered-an-error-while-processing-a-device-event&p=268033#post268033

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