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00:08:34 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 00:18:39 *** guru3_ [~guru3@90-224-111-173-no225.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 00:24:12 *** guru3 [~guru3@000128ea.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:58 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@18.240.137.78.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:34:10 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 00:55:11 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 00:58:35 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.16.170.150] has joined #openttd 01:43:05 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-030-095.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 02:03:12 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.16.170.150] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:19:59 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:38:38 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-66-108-51-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6711D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD42AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:58:30 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.133.114] has joined #openttd 05:05:49 <Supercheese> Aww, no function in the scenario editor to "flow river from this starting point" 05:06:01 <Supercheese> Have to place it manually? :S 05:06:31 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@189.106.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:13:47 *** permagreen [~donovan@204.195.27.175] has joined #openttd 05:23:22 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-77-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 05:29:02 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:31:39 *** permagreen [~donovan@204.195.27.175] has quit [Quit: USER DEAD IMMINENT] 05:33:06 *** Pecio [~fgh@coa39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 06:00:31 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 06:07:05 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 06:18:14 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 06:28:14 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:31:48 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:31:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 06:37:32 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-77-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:38:13 <Supercheese> Weird, all my HEQS trams have lower capacity 06:38:19 <Supercheese> I wonder what happened 06:39:03 <planetmaker> moin 06:39:30 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 06:42:22 <Supercheese> Huh, very odd 06:43:09 <planetmaker> Supercheese, cargo can have a capacity multiplier. goods usually has 2, while others have 1 06:43:54 <Supercheese> I think there's a bug somewhere in FIRS 06:44:06 <Supercheese> HEQS trams report their capacity, "20t in four wagons" etc 06:44:17 <Supercheese> but those capacities are incorrect in Tropic Basic economy 06:44:47 <Supercheese> That's the only variable I'm changing, the economy parameter 06:44:51 <Supercheese> and it's causing the capacity issues 06:44:55 <planetmaker> uhm... why do you think in FIRS? 06:45:28 <Supercheese> guess I can check the source 06:46:15 <planetmaker> if capacities don't match, I'd start looking in the vehicle set 06:46:25 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.104.88] has joined #openttd 06:46:28 <Supercheese> I think HEQS is NFO 06:46:30 <planetmaker> unless, you see the capacity issue with different vehicle sets 06:46:34 <planetmaker> I think not 06:46:52 <planetmaker> but I might err 06:46:59 <Supercheese> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/show/sprites/nfo 06:47:26 <planetmaker> hm.... :S 06:47:29 <Supercheese> can't read NFO 06:48:15 <Supercheese> good lord, so much python wizardry with FIRS 06:48:32 <planetmaker> still. Try with other train, ship, plane, rv sets. If it's the same: it's FIRS. If not: HEQS 06:48:34 <Supercheese> gotta grab the processed NML 06:49:40 <Supercheese> Hmm 06:50:07 <Supercheese> well, other vehicles seem fine 06:51:23 <Supercheese> I see your point 06:53:03 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.133.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:53:07 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:53:32 <Supercheese> HEQS bug, I guess 06:56:38 <Supercheese> weird 06:56:42 <Supercheese> I wonder what could be the problem 06:57:59 <planetmaker> primary cargo could be 06:58:34 <planetmaker> if the primary cargo has a different cargo multiplier, it might propagate to each refit. It needs then setting explicitly 06:58:45 <Supercheese> same problem for arctic basic 07:02:35 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 07:02:47 <Supercheese> maybe if the COAL cargo isn't defined? 07:05:02 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:05:44 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 07:06:40 <planetmaker> for instance, yes. And if next is GOODs 07:10:37 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:12:32 *** Devroush367 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:18:52 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-245.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 07:26:25 <Supercheese> Yeah, the fallback primary cargo becomes MAIL 07:55:41 <Supercheese> Huh, new menu icons 07:55:47 <Supercheese> Storybook/goals 07:58:19 <Supercheese> the new icons messed up the tooltips 08:07:25 <Supercheese> 'night 08:07:27 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 08:28:45 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-70-43.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:43:25 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.195] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:57:12 *** Pecio [~fgh@coa39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:51 *** Pecio [~fgh@coa39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 09:14:16 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:14:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A084.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:36:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A084.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:34 <NGC3982> Time to explore the AI 09:36:56 <NGC3982> After ten years of playing. 09:47:00 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:59:57 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 10:12:59 *** orudge [~orudge@000128f1.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:13:31 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@yoda.zernebok.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:09 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-245.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:34:24 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 10:34:27 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-072-120.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:40:43 *** zooks [~zooks@wlan-177-181.wlan.ru.nl] has joined #openttd 10:47:29 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.63] has joined #openttd 11:01:21 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-141-135-138.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:08:07 *** zooks [~zooks@wlan-177-181.wlan.ru.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:14 <planetmaker> so... anyone playing with nightly might want to update his or her OpenGFX via online content 11:32:40 *** zooks [~zooks@wlan-177-181.wlan.ru.nl] has joined #openttd 11:51:23 *** zooks [~zooks@wlan-177-181.wlan.ru.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:02:15 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@yoda.zernebok.com] has joined #openttd 12:39:32 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 12:58:42 *** Pecio [~fgh@coa39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 13:05:54 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-66-108-51-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:16:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A084.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:26:08 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:35 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 13:27:44 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 13:52:05 *** Leftie [Leftie@0543d11b.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 13:52:19 <Leftie> Hi. I'm wondering if anyone can help, i'm having trouble getting OpenTTD to compile :( 13:52:54 <Leftie> http://pastebin.com/aKN9LHGf is the exact error 13:53:36 <Leftie> compiling from 1.3.1 source, too. don't think there is anything else i'm missing, installed the dependencies as stated on http://wiki.openttd.org/GNU/Linux#Manually 13:56:54 <__ln__> is this ubuntu or debian? 13:57:22 <Leftie> its debian, debian 6 i believe. 13:57:46 <__ln__> did you install build-essential? 13:57:58 <Leftie> eeer, let me read the wiki again. 13:58:18 <Leftie> yes, i did what the wiki said (sudo apt-get install build-essential pkg-config libsdl1.2-dev subversion patch zlib1g-dev liblzo2-dev liblzma-dev libfontconfig-dev libicu-dev) 13:58:45 <planetmaker> Leftie: https://secure.openttd.org/www/en/development lists (or should list) all needed libraries 13:59:00 <Leftie> oh, is the wiki not up-to-date? 13:59:10 <planetmaker> it should also be up to date 13:59:17 <planetmaker> but would take me longer to find ;-) 13:59:42 <planetmaker> in case of doubt the wiki is actually more up to date really 13:59:58 <Leftie> oh, if it matters i'm also using --enable-dedicated 14:00:07 <Leftie> just trying to setup a little server for me and few friends to play on. 14:00:42 <planetmaker> can you paste config.log and the result of ./configure ? 14:01:11 <Leftie> Yup, hold on whilst i get them. 14:01:36 <planetmaker> and you compile from the svn checkout, yes? 14:02:41 <Leftie> no, i am compiling from the http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk page, the source that is obtained from there. 14:03:02 <Leftie> argh, no download-stable - clicked the wrong thing on openttd.org page. 14:03:23 <planetmaker> uh... better get a subversion checkout if you want to create a server 14:03:35 <planetmaker> you have svn installed anyway, as you said 14:03:43 <Leftie> oh, i thought it was just as simple as downloading it from http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/1.3.1/openttd-1.3.1-source.tar.gz 14:03:59 <Leftie> tar -xzf + compile, surely that is the same that is used for all 1.3.1? 14:04:14 <planetmaker> well... *should* work... but it's not a good idea 14:04:58 <Leftie> this is config.log http://pastebin.com/jfsuD2JT 14:04:59 <planetmaker> might give unexpected results with the displayed version, though 14:05:17 <Leftie> and http://pastebin.com/aKN9LHGf is what the compiler exits on. 14:06:17 <Leftie> no wait, it wasn't the make output you wanted >.< hold on 14:07:55 <Leftie> this is the ./configure output, sorry http://pastebin.com/M4qi8vcg 14:13:07 <planetmaker> still, looks like you're missing an essential package... linux-libc-dev 14:13:11 <planetmaker> is that installed? 14:14:17 <Leftie> apt-get outputs linux-libc-dev is already the newest version, so 'fraid so 14:15:45 <__ln__> is your root partition full? 14:16:50 <Leftie> No, approx 7.41GB free, of a 10GB partition (VPS) 14:18:36 <__ln__> try reinstalling linux-libc-dev 14:20:01 <planetmaker> yes ^ 14:21:05 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:21:34 <Leftie> ah, this may take a while, apt-get removing linux-libc-dev seems to have removed build-essential and most other compiling things, will have to redo all them. 14:21:46 <Leftie> or perhaps that was the point ;) 14:22:49 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:24:15 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178231044.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:24:45 <planetmaker> well... re-installing that package was the point. As the files compilation complains about not finding are part of that particular package 14:25:28 <Leftie> well its reinstalled linux-libc-dev and build-essential + all the other things that was now missing from the wiki page list 14:25:45 <Leftie> It's compiling OpenTTD again, but so far its got long past where it faultered before, so i think it may have done the trick :) 14:26:54 <planetmaker> :-) 14:27:19 <planetmaker> the "while" was then relatively short :D 14:27:57 <Leftie> Yeah, I always surprise myself with how fast this goes, to say its only 1X 3GHz, i always expect this little VPS to take yonks. 14:30:37 <Leftie> aha, compiled and installed, just need to give it a graphic set, wasn't expect it to request one running in -D mode 14:31:55 <Eddi|zuHause> it contains some essential stuff like (original) terrain generator patterns 14:32:53 <Leftie> Is there any issue with copying the stuff from my local Windows installation, or are .grfs different between operating systems? 14:33:04 <Eddi|zuHause> no problems 14:33:16 <planetmaker> Leftie: you should check that it reports the version you wanted as you didn't compile from svn 14:33:24 <Eddi|zuHause> except maybe case sensitivity 14:33:45 <Leftie> hm, the folder it created was 1.3.1, but i'll double check planetmaker 14:34:09 <planetmaker> ./openttd --version 14:34:54 <planetmaker> ./openttd --version | head -n1 14:35:03 <planetmaker> to skip all the other reporting 14:36:06 <Leftie> output: OpenTTD 1.3.1 - i assume thats all good to go? 14:36:31 <Eddi|zuHause> that should be correct 14:36:54 <Eddi|zuHause> if it said something like "norev000" you couldn't use this as a server 14:37:33 <planetmaker> yup 14:37:53 <planetmaker> Leftie: generally using svn is both safer. And easier to update 14:38:26 <Eddi|zuHause> and it will correctly detect modifications 14:38:28 <Leftie> right, and thats just getting the current branch from svn://svn.openttd.org? 14:38:49 <Eddi|zuHause> you want to check out /tags/1.3.1 14:38:56 <Leftie> I've never used svn on linux before, only through Windows via Tortoise SVN >.< 14:40:07 <Eddi|zuHause> use "svn switch" to update later 14:40:07 <planetmaker> you can use tortoiseSVN on linux, too 14:40:31 <planetmaker> svn co svn://svn.openttd.org/tags/1.3.1 14:41:24 <planetmaker> tortoise[svn|hg|git] is available for windows, linux and osx 14:42:54 <planetmaker> also, for ease of use: skip installing openttd on the server. Just grab the checkout, compile. And run. That suffices :-) 14:43:16 <Leftie> ah nice 14:43:40 <Leftie> thanks for the help you guys have been great, got it all hooked up and i've connected to it so its all working great. 14:43:48 <Leftie> Thanks peeps :) 14:43:55 *** Leftie [Leftie@0543d11b.skybroadband.com] has quit [Quit: A helpful bunch you truly are!] 14:46:46 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 15:02:35 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:22:11 *** adit [~adit@114.123.97.34] has joined #openttd 15:25:05 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, "install" is of not much use unless you remove the source/build tree afterwards 15:38:29 *** adit [~adit@114.123.97.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:53:22 <Terkhen> hello 15:56:12 <supermop> hi 15:57:23 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-70-43.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 16:08:09 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178231044.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 481 seconds] 16:13:21 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:17:12 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178221135.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:22:34 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 16:27:18 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:15 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.63] has joined #openttd 16:34:39 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 16:40:02 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.104.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:21 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:47:38 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 16:52:27 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-072-120.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:54:51 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 16:56:33 <Eddi|zuHause> https://twitter.com/_nothingtohide 17:00:55 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:00:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:12:13 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C36BD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:18:04 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25388 trunk/src/lang/english.txt (2013-06-10 17:17:59 UTC) 17:18:05 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5593] (r25376): Forgot to add tooltips for the new main menu buttons 17:20:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B7C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:34:35 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:34:58 <Wolf01> hello 17:40:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B7C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f62b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:38 <Wolf01> quak frosch123 17:45:51 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25389 /trunk/src/lang (7 files) (2013-06-10 17:45:38 UTC) 17:45:52 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:53 <DorpsGek> english_US - 2 changes by Rubidium 17:45:54 <DorpsGek> finnish - 2 changes by jpx_ 17:45:55 <DorpsGek> french - 4 changes by glx 17:45:56 <DorpsGek> german - 5 changes by Jogio, planetmaker 17:45:57 <DorpsGek> italian - 59 changes by lorenzodv 17:45:58 <DorpsGek> polish - 1 changes by wojteks86 17:45:59 <DorpsGek> spanish - 2 changes by Terkhen 17:46:24 <frosch123> moin wolf01 17:47:34 <Wolf01> www.darkroastedblend.com/2013/06/london-necropolis-railway.html nice, new cargo type for TT: corpses 17:51:35 <planetmaker> quak 17:52:49 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 17:53:51 <Tulitoma1tti> ? 17:54:23 *** Tulitoma1tti is now known as Tulitomaatti 17:55:45 <planetmaker> a bit... disgusting, Wolf01 :-) 17:55:54 <Wolf01> eheh 17:56:15 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:19 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:16 *** gombee [~gombee@00019f9f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:08:46 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.16.170.150] has joined #openttd 18:09:57 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:09:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:10:26 <Alberth> moin 18:19:00 <planetmaker> hi Alberth 18:19:29 <Alberth> yay, new opengfx, thanks 18:20:23 <planetmaker> :-) yeah... only the new gui sprites, though 18:21:02 <planetmaker> that needs not too much work... only some palette conversions... and ignoring NML warnings about gui sprites :-P 18:26:19 <Wolf01> hai Alberth 18:26:35 <Alberth> hi hi Wolf01 18:28:24 <Rubidium> hi Wolf01 18:32:26 <Zuu> Its quiet today. Perhaps everyone plays with cargo distribution :-) 18:35:16 <Alberth> Zuu: you were too busy with story books, but it has been quiet the entire weekend as well :) 18:35:26 <Zuu> hehe :-) 18:39:23 * planetmaker checks whether OpenGFX+ Landscape still misses stuff 18:39:53 <Rubidium> planetmaker: it definitely does 18:40:24 <planetmaker> hm? 18:40:53 <Alberth> it also seems to be missing things 18:41:10 <planetmaker> :-( 18:41:40 <Alberth> oh, don't feel bad! 18:41:50 * Alberth hugs planetmaker 18:43:00 <Rubidium> planetmaker: so far I have not seen a NewGRF that provides the cargo "stuff", even though I've often mentioned it ;) 18:43:20 <planetmaker> :D 18:44:33 <planetmaker> probably that should be added as easter egg into opengfx+industries ;-) 18:50:19 <frosch123> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/details.php?do=details&id=120 <- Rubidium: ancient 18:51:17 <Alberth> lol, "not OTTD compatible" :) 18:51:22 <planetmaker> lol 18:51:45 <frosch123> did ottd even exist? :p 18:52:36 <planetmaker> 2007? I guess :-) 18:54:21 <planetmaker> Hm... that's about the time I started to play on #openttdcoop, thus when I came back to this game to stay 18:56:00 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@177.43.128.187] has joined #openttd 18:56:00 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.16.170.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02:49 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:13:25 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 19:18:40 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 19:38:47 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@39.243.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 19:38:54 <Samu> h 19:39:31 <Samu> I think I found a bug with replace vehicles when old 19:39:31 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:39:42 <Samu> and wagon removal on or off 19:39:51 <Samu> not entirely certain though 19:39:56 <Samu> must try again 19:40:43 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:42:17 <Samu> i told the game to replace SH '8P' when old to a TIM with wagon removal on, but also to replace SH '125P' when old to a TIM with wagon removal off 19:42:34 <Samu> I had found some trains with an extra wagon later on 19:43:23 <Samu> TIM trains 19:50:08 <Samu> ok, got a old train again, 1 machine, 3 wagons - should be replacing to tim with wagon removed 19:51:01 <Terkhen> good night 19:51:46 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54:23 <Samu> there it is 19:54:32 <Samu> added tim, maintained 3 wagons :( 19:57:34 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:01:22 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-072-120.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 20:06:40 <Samu> confirmed again 20:06:49 <Samu> i'm creating a report 20:07:42 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 20:07:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 20:08:22 <planetmaker> ZxBiohazardZx, you can now update your OpenGFX ingame ;-) 20:08:44 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.43.128.187] has joined #openttd 20:08:45 <Samu> flyspray requires flash? 20:08:52 <Samu> I uninstalled adobe flash 20:09:04 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Csevegjen kényelmesen. Bárhol.] 20:09:53 <Samu> ah, it doesn't - it's just the advert 20:11:04 <planetmaker> yes... the advert pays the server 20:12:50 <Samu> it's those square icons, one at the top right, near Show Task #, the other at the bottom, near Flyspray 0.9.9.6 text 20:12:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:13:28 <planetmaker> Pages contain our sponsor's logo. In the way he wants it included 20:25:22 <Samu> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5594 20:25:44 <Samu> sorry, there was no more SH '8P's, but it's also happening to SH '30' 20:29:09 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 20:34:01 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-188-102-147-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:55 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:40:14 <Samu> how do I tell IE10 to stop telling me "this website wants to install adobe flash player from adobe systems"? 20:40:20 <Samu> bah... 20:41:13 <MNIM> ...well 20:41:22 <MNIM> not using IE would be a start 20:42:59 <NGC3982> Does the average AI from the Online Content support using FIRS/ECS? 20:43:24 <Zuu> FIRS better than ECS 20:43:44 <NGC3982> I see. 20:44:11 <Zuu> The average AI will probably not figure out the importance of suppliers, but it should use the cargos available. 20:44:59 <Zuu> Its more a matter of it being able to understand some of the (over) complex vehicle NewGRFs. 20:45:08 <glx> ECS is already too complex for a human 20:45:28 <NGC3982> I guess i wont use ECS anyway 20:45:40 <NGC3982> But atleast FIRS and NARS/UKRS2. 20:46:07 <Zuu> My bet is that UKRS2 works better than NARS. 20:46:27 <Zuu> NARS have a cabose if I'm not mistaken. 20:46:39 <NGC3982> UKRS2 has a brake van.. 20:47:03 <Zuu> Though if you use a road-AIs that will not make a difference which rail NewGRF you use. 20:47:24 * NGC3982 tries. 20:47:41 <Zuu> I'v not played much with UKRS2. Mostly UKRS 20:48:41 <Zuu> That said the average AI on bananas may not support rails at all. Only a subset of all AIs support rail. 20:49:37 <planetmaker> good rail support comes at a premium. As a figure of speach 20:49:44 <planetmaker> Not many do a good job there 20:50:57 <NGC3982> I see 20:55:48 <Samu> :( 20:55:52 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@39.243.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:59:47 <NGC3982> The AIAI AI worked FIRS out like a charm. 21:05:02 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@189.106.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:51 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@39.243.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 21:06:14 <Samu> got it - no more IE10 pestering me about Adobe Flash 21:06:42 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@39.243.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [] 21:07:58 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@39.243.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 21:12:08 <Zuu> NGC3982: The AI work with a list of industry types. It sees which input/output cargos it has. So they more or less work with industries as nodes and has the knowledge which industry outputs cargo compatible with what other industry. They do then not really care if that is a default cargo or a NewGRF cargo. 21:12:53 <Zuu> The things that cause an AI problem is if an industry stops to accept cargo "temporarily" it has no clue why that happened. Some AIs have a mechanism to back off for some time and then if that not helps close down the connection. 21:14:15 <Samu> oh god... 21:14:24 <Zuu> Basically all information that NewGRFs provide as text strings at the bottom of the purchase menu or industry window or in a manual is not available to the AI. 21:14:26 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:52 <__ln__> however, http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ 21:15:55 <Zuu> Gah, they removed the scroll bar. Though it works with arrow keys. 21:16:05 * Zuu hates sites/programs that remove the scroll bar 21:16:39 <Samu> Im autoreplacing everything 1-engine and 2-engine alike to the new 2-engine "right now", not the "when old" - I'm messing up all my trains with an extra wagon - the game doesn't memorize when I told to replace, it just replaces using the latest remove wagon choice 21:17:01 <Samu> what a mess :( I'm sad 21:19:45 <Samu> it's not an extra wagon, it's the game not removing the wagon, sorry 21:23:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:24:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B7C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:30:37 <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r25390 trunk/src/saveload/afterload.cpp (2013-06-10 21:30:31 UTC) 21:30:38 <DorpsGek> -Fix: add missing compatibility settings in afterload. 21:30:53 <planetmaker> g'night 21:49:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B7C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r25391 trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp (2013-06-10 21:53:11 UTC) 21:53:17 <DorpsGek> -Fix: make ChangeShare really aware of INT_MIN 21:56:06 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-188-102-147-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:57:38 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f62b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: quak] 22:28:39 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:35:34 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C36BD.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:37:04 *** SineTheCreator [~darked@cpe-174-096-023-200.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 22:40:55 *** SineTheCreator [~darked@cpe-174-096-023-200.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:43:21 <Wolf01> 'night 22:43:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:47:36 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: When the chips are down, well, the buffalo is empty] 22:50:40 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:52:31 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178221135.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:03:12 *** SineTheCreator [~darked@cpe-174-096-023-200.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 23:03:37 *** SineTheCreator [~darked@cpe-174-096-023-200.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:07:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:08:01 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 23:08:27 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:08:27 *** Devroush367 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:22:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A084.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24:26 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.43.128.187] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:48:51 *** Nothing4You [N4Y@Nothing4You.w.tf-w.tf] has quit [Quit: Gone...] 23:50:54 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:59:47 *** Nothing4You [N4Y@Nothing4You.w.tf-w.tf] has joined #openttd