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00:34:56  <Bad_Brett> hellooo
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02:05:27  <wolfmitchell> hm, my openttd server is randomly starting AIs and it's getting very irritating >.<
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05:35:54  <Terkhen> good morning
05:38:25  <Terkhen> wolfmitchell: check your openttd.cfg file and set max_no_competitors to 0
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06:14:29  <Supercheese> 'night
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07:55:25  <Alberth> moin
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08:08:24  <Eddi|zuHause> wolfmitchell: there is a setting for "allow/disable AI in multiplayer"
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09:19:05  <Rubidium> at a station, what would "available cargo" be?
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09:28:42  <frosch123> either cargo types that could potentially delivered from houses and industries to the station, or cargo already at the station not yet reserved by a vehicle for loading
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13:16:36  <Rubidium> :O a Thai translator with a mission
13:20:11  <frosch123> :o
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13:45:28  <peter1138> to translate thai?
13:47:35  <Eddi|zuHause> well it would be silly to waste a thai translator to a persian translation
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15:05:59  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25401 /trunk/src (5 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:05:54 UTC)
15:06:00  <DorpsGek> -Fix-ish: Add missing includes with prototypes to functions declared in the cpp file.
15:06:27  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25402 /trunk/src (3 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:06:22 UTC)
15:06:28  <DorpsGek> -Fix-ish: Prevent copying of BasePool and WindowDesc, since they register in static vectors.
15:21:12  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25403 trunk/src/lang/unfinished/thai.txt (2013-06-15 15:21:05 UTC)
15:21:13  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
15:21:14  <DorpsGek> thai - 1612 changes by nirakanz
15:22:04  <frosch123> someone is bored now :p
15:23:06  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: maybe he is available for persian now :)
15:24:26  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25404 /trunk (14 files in 4 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:24:20 UTC)
15:24:27  <DorpsGek> -Feature: Thai
15:26:31  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25405 /trunk/src (lang/english.txt station_gui.cpp) (2013-06-15 15:26:24 UTC)
15:26:32  <DorpsGek> -Feature-ish: differentiate between total waiting cargo count and available (not reserved) cargo count in the station list
15:26:33  <DorpsGek> -Change: sort based on the cargo count, not the cargo value
15:26:56  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25406 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-06-15 15:26:49 UTC)
15:26:57  <DorpsGek> -Cleanup: There were two hotkeys to toggle between 'unload' and 'unload if possible'.
15:27:14  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25407 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-06-15 15:27:08 UTC)
15:27:15  <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Use order hotkey enum instead of function pointers.
15:27:38  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25408 /trunk/src (12 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:27:33 UTC)
15:27:39  <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Simplify hotkeys by removing unused stuff.
15:27:57  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25409 /trunk/src/lang (58 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:27:51 UTC)
15:27:58  <DorpsGek> -Cleanup: remove removed string
15:28:16  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25410 /trunk/src (12 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:28:09 UTC)
15:28:17  <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Put all hotkeys of a window into a static HotkeyList member.
15:30:22  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25411 /trunk/src (window.cpp window_gui.h) (2013-06-15 15:30:16 UTC)
15:30:23  <DorpsGek> -Add: Window::OnHotkey
15:30:49  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25412 /trunk/src (10 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:30:44 UTC)
15:30:50  <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Make use of Window::OnHotkey
15:31:10  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25413 /trunk/src (3 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:31:04 UTC)
15:31:11  <DorpsGek> -Fix-ish: Suppress focussing editboxes which are not visible.
15:31:31  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25414 /trunk/src (11 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:31:22 UTC)
15:31:32  <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Move handling of global hotkeys to HotkeyList.
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15:35:03  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25415 /branches/1.3 (6 files in 3 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:34:57 UTC)
15:35:04  <DorpsGek> [1.3] -Feature: Thai translation
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15:43:38  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25416 /branches/1.3 (70 files in 3 dirs) (2013-06-15 15:43:32 UTC)
15:43:39  <DorpsGek> [1.3] -Backport from trunk: language updates
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16:43:33  <Steffl> Hi, is it possible that bananas don't let you upload things with firefox? I think I had a problem with it some time ago.
16:44:12  <frosch123> unlikely
16:44:37  <frosch123> do you get any mesage?
16:46:45  <Steffl> yes unhandled error?
16:46:53  <Steffl> something like this
16:47:09  <Steffl> and i tried it 4,5 times i think
16:48:57  <Steffl> hmm, now trying with Internet Explorer I log in, successfully, then click on index and I'm not logged in anymore...
16:49:50  <frosch123> did you enter anything in "maximum ottd version" ?
16:49:57  <Steffl> no
16:50:20  <Steffl> just new version one higher and the path of file
16:51:23  <frosch123> try explicitly selecting none, or select "nightly r26000"
16:51:32  <Steffl> ok wait a bit
16:51:39  <frosch123> for maximum version
16:53:38  <Steffl> still error
16:54:18  <Steffl> there's a list with 1.3.0, 1.3.1.... I selected Nightly
16:54:34  <Steffl> Unhandled Exception  An unhandled exception was thrown by the application.
16:54:41  <Steffl> this is the error
16:54:53  <frosch123> yes, i also get it when editing my stuff
16:54:59  <Steffl> hmm
16:55:14  <frosch123> actually, try setting both min and max version to "nightly", one r24000, other r26000 or so
16:55:22  <Steffl> ???
16:55:32  <Steffl> ok
16:55:43  <Steffl> can I redo this later?
16:55:44  <frosch123> we recently changed processing of that entry field :)
16:55:51  <frosch123> yes, you can edit the stuff
16:56:38  <Steffl> wow it worked
16:56:42  <Steffl> xD
16:57:29  <Steffl> hmm, edited and error
16:57:46  <Steffl> but it's uploaded
16:57:47  <frosch123> well, yes, that's the same error
16:58:41  <Steffl> ok
16:59:17  <Steffl> hmm can you change it manually to min version 0.6, max version none?
16:59:40  <frosch123> not before we find the bug :p
16:59:51  <Steffl> ok
17:00:20  <Steffl> what is the reward for finding a bug? :-)
17:00:55  <VidTheKid> you get to eat the bug
17:01:04  <Steffl> i will spend my reward to the one who fixes the bug :-)
17:01:05  <frosch123> you may attend our (25+4)k party
17:01:12  <frosch123> and get free cake and bbq
17:01:40  <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=66728
17:03:09  * Rubidium wonders why an AI should be set to min 0.6
17:03:48  <frosch123> is bananas actually that old?
17:04:18  <Rubidium> no, and neither is NoAI
17:06:19  <Rubidium> having said that, the AI uses functions from the 1.1 API
17:08:16  <Steffl> hmm, maybe I have to test it when I have nothing to do
17:08:27  * Rubidium ponders inverse API control; you can't use functions that aren't valid for your API version
17:08:40  <Rubidium> i.e. if you specific 0.7, using 1.2 APIs should fail
17:10:14  <Rubidium> s/ic/y/
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17:11:01  <Steffl> i needed to use a function to get AIInfrastructure costs
17:11:18  <Steffl> but I check for version
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17:11:44  <Steffl> if its older then 1.2 I don't use this function
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17:13:35  <frosch123> Steffl: can you try again editing the min/max version now? :)
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17:19:24  <Wolf01> moin :D
17:19:52  <Steffl> hi
17:21:05  <Steffl> ok frosch123, all is right now xD
17:21:15  <Steffl> thank you very much
17:21:27  <frosch123> thanks for testing, also thanks TrueBrain :)
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17:22:06  <TrueBrain> and tnx frosch123 :)
17:25:00  <Steffl> and bye bye
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17:45:35  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25417 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2013-06-15 17:45:26 UTC)
17:45:36  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:37  <DorpsGek> english_US - 2 changes by Rubidium
17:45:38  <DorpsGek> spanish - 2 changes by Terkhen
17:45:39  <DorpsGek> thai - 3 changes by nirakanz
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17:51:04  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25418 trunk/src/lang/thai.txt (2013-06-15 17:50:58 UTC)
17:51:05  <DorpsGek> -Fix: WT3 validation error
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18:21:14  <lantizia> Lo, I want to play an original TTDLX scenario "Scotland" - so I've installed openttd on my linux box - added in the original graphics and music and all ss0/ss1 files in to the scenario directory - and I can now see the scenario for me to play in the game
18:21:37  <lantizia> one question though - where on earth has the old 'Difficulty' dialog gone?  i normally configure this prior to playing a scenario
18:21:56  <Alberth> settinga are moving to advanced settings
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18:28:13  <Alberth> o/ Zuu
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19:35:56  <peter1138> ah, debian 7.1 time
19:38:47  <Rubidium> lets hope squeeze -> wheezy goes smooth now
19:39:20  <Rubidium> and not like kubuntu 10.04 -> 12.04; did that this week and it was horrid and that for LTS -> LTS
19:44:27  <wolfmitchell> so, I got a problem with AIs randomly starting on my server. I tried what this guy say [01:37:11] <Terkhen> wolfmitchell: check your openttd.cfg file and set max_no_competitors to 0 <-- then restarted my server, AIs still randomly starting on my server...
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19:45:01  <Rubidium> openttd saves the current settings upon closing, so if you edit the config and then close the server, the server will overwrite them
19:45:06  <peter1138> Rubidium, been fine on all my machines
19:45:27  <peter1138> then again i always had issues with ubuntu major updates
19:45:34  <Rubidium> furthermore, this setting is saved in the savegame, so if you reload a savegame, the setting from that savegame is used
19:45:37  <peter1138> generally it "worked" but was broken in neferious ways
19:45:58  <peter1138> of course, you lose gnome 2 :(
19:46:24  <wolfmitchell> also, is there a way to make the server load a map? .-.
19:46:34  <wolfmitchell> owait
19:46:35  <wolfmitchell> nvm
19:46:46  <wolfmitchell> just tried to see if there was a command, there is
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20:48:57  <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r25419 trunk/src/cargopacket.cpp (2013-06-15 20:48:50 UTC)
20:48:58  <DorpsGek> -Fix: assign some random other source station to packets which have lost their source
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22:56:28  <Wolf01> 'night
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