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has quit [Read error: No route to host] 09:20:42 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has joined #openttd 09:26:09 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 09:57:30 *** Pecio [~fgh@cnz8.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 10:01:36 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [] 10:02:07 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 10:03:08 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 10:03:47 *** Devroush [~dennis@d54C5F1F3.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:13:32 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 10:31:27 <lugo> does anyone know where i can get this PDF with all FIRS industries and it's possible connections? 10:31:49 <lugo> it was posted i the devthread sometime 10:32:47 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 10:38:55 <planetmaker> maybe http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/LATEST/docs/html/get_started.html is the better overview? 10:52:47 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 10:54:46 <lugo> i found this overview more comprehensive.. but thanks.. 10:55:19 <planetmaker> look for the documents near the firs repo maybe 11:05:52 <Tvel> lugo: did you mean that? http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=137178%7CCargo 11:07:36 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:11:12 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:25:38 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 11:40:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C122.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:46:21 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 12:16:06 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:17:54 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:21:32 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-60-225-68-124.hhui1.cht.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:25:01 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:09 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:27 <lugo> Tvel: exactly, thank you! 12:28:13 <lugo> mmh, it's for FIRS 0.5.3 :/ 12:28:28 <lugo> thought it was more recent 12:29:19 <Tvel> yeah it is quite old 12:44:47 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:51:48 <Eddi|zuHause> that's the problem with one-time efforts... they tend to get outdated quickly 12:55:19 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:56:48 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-66-108-51-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:08:53 <__ln__> can i sign up for the meeting if i don't have a forum name, and if i'm not 100% sure of attendance? 13:09:11 <Eddi|zuHause> NO!! 13:10:25 <__ln__> ok! 13:10:59 <Eddi|zuHause> (treat double exclamation marks as irony markers :p) 13:10:59 <oskari89> __ln__: forum name is not difficult to have ;) 13:11:35 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, that's what she said!! 13:14:59 *** Pecio [~fgh@cnz8.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 13:15:11 <__ln__> oskari89: i don't like web based forums. 13:15:27 <oskari89> ok :P 13:19:31 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 13:26:11 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-032-050.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 13:26:34 <supermop> __ln__: couldn't you just show up at the place and time? 13:27:13 <planetmaker> allegedly he can. 13:33:56 <peter1138> say i have an MVC site 13:34:05 <peter1138> and i have an a object and a b object, both independent 13:34:16 <peter1138> except i want to create a b object based on an a object 13:34:37 <peter1138> where does that fit? heh 13:35:14 <Xaroth|Work> I.. don't get it. 13:35:25 <peter1138> i didn't think anyone did 13:35:28 <peter1138> *would 13:46:09 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 14:08:31 *** 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16:30:31 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:33:34 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-93-168.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37:23 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:38:58 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 16:50:42 <Zuu> canin: You can increase the font size in openttd.cfg 16:51:02 <Zuu> To get larger GUI icons, there is a NewGRF with larger GUI. 16:51:19 <Zuu> To see signals etc. in-game, you can just zoom in. 16:51:55 <Zuu> If you want higher detailed graphics in the two most detailed zoom-levers you can try zBase which is a 32bit high-detail base set. 16:53:32 <Zuu> Here you can read more on how to increase the font size: http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_troubleshooting#My_User_Interface_is_too_small_to_read_.2F_My_font_is_unreadable_or_faulty 16:54:40 <canin> heh just found the font info 16:58:17 <canin> What's that GUI pack called? 16:58:37 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 16:58:45 <Zuu> Accoring to the wiki it's called BigGUI 16:59:17 <canin> Also, is there an official PPA for ubuntu? OTTD is one of the few games I don't have a ppa for 16:59:20 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 16:59:30 <canin> I've seen a few third-party ppas 16:59:39 <Zuu> PPA? 16:59:55 <canin> package archive 17:00:25 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:00:28 <canin> unsurprisingly the main archives in ubuntu have an out of date OTTD most of the time 17:00:59 <Zuu> It seems that there are ubuntu .debs for OpenTTD stable but not for trunk on openttd.org 17:01:25 <canin> I guess I'll live with the debs 17:01:47 <canin> I wonder what an easy way is to share saves/settings across windows/mac/linux 17:02:15 <Zuu> On Linux I usually just grab the generic pre complid .tar.gz and tar -xf it. If I really need to have it globally accessable I make a wrapper start script in my ~/bin. 17:03:07 <canin> Are the config files compatible across platforms? I assume the saves and downloaded content is. 17:03:58 <Zuu> The config file itself can be transfered from one computer to another. What may not always be the same is paths to eg. fonts. 17:04:32 *** jane_fgh [~G25@94.20.34.197] has joined #openttd 17:04:37 <Zuu> Eg. Open the openttd.cfg file and look at it. You can then see if it contains paths to files on your system that are platform/computer specific. 17:06:01 *** jane_fgh [~G25@94.20.34.197] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06:04 <canin> Hmm, if there's any differences, could make a launcher that automatically changes that setting. The actual data is synced on my network. 17:06:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5365.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:07:45 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:07:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:09:47 <canin> I find the squeak landing jets make funny 17:17:19 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AD74.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:18:50 <canin> This game is so small and catchy - like RCT and TTD originally was - I wonder why no distros include it... instead you'll get a minesweeper package that uses the same amount of disk space. 17:19:20 <canin> What version of OpenGL does this use? 1.x or 2.x or a mix? 17:19:28 <Zuu> None 17:19:58 <Zuu> It uses 2D blitting 17:22:46 <canin> Ah oldschool SDL for the graphics, not jsut for sound+context 17:23:49 *** Devroush [~dennis@d54C5F1F3.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:26 <peter1138> pretty sure a lot of distros include it 17:34:33 <peter1138> not installed by default of course 17:39:05 <canin> SDL is on every platform there is, even obscure things lol 17:39:26 <canin> Only issue is it's not very efficient so OTTD on mobile is slow. 17:43:21 <frosch123> just get a dual core mobiel 17:43:31 <frosch123> drawing can be done in a separate thread 17:45:20 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25430 /trunk/src/lang (latvian.txt thai.txt) (2013-06-20 17:45:12 UTC) 17:45:21 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> latvian - 22 changes by Parastais 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> thai - 21 changes by nirakanz 17:45:37 <gk> Is the game even playable on a mobile? Can't imagine it being easy to do much. 17:46:16 <frosch123> if you have a pen instead of fat fingers it is said to be playable 17:47:26 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:09:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18553.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:19:28 <Belugas> on a mobile, it's hard. on a tablet (10 inches), it's doable. and surprising 18:22:29 <canin> At low res it works well with a pen, especially if it's a 2 or 3 button pen. 18:23:45 <gk> What size maps can they generally handle? 18:23:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C122.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:25:56 <canin> Purely depends on the CPU, the tablet I tried was an atom, can handle medium-large ones, not huge ones. 18:29:44 <gk> I generally play on 2048/w x 1024/h because I like to have a lot of water. Be nice if could get the map generator to make better continental land masses. 512x512 is a decent enough size to play on though. 18:33:02 <gk> by better I mean larger land masses rather than a lot of smaller ones which it seems to produce. 18:33:28 <canin> I've been playing with rolling world generation on my engine 18:34:46 <gk> rolling world? 18:36:09 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 18:38:04 <canin> flat but wraps over 18:38:15 <canin> like a texture 18:42:00 <gk> Would be nice to have. 18:44:58 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 18:46:07 <gk> Something completely different I wold like like but never seen is to be able to have double train tracks in in a square. Maybe it has been done somewhere. So they work similar to trams. Don't seem right that to have tracks going in both directions you need to have them so wide apart. Not sure if its hard to code it in. Couple of train tracks in the real world are similar in width to roads. 18:50:03 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:50:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:50:24 <Alberth> moin 18:50:57 <canin> I've been thinking of having tracks as curves you drag out and snap together on a grid, rather than being along a grid or hex or freeform(yuck) you point out the path and vector like curves are made 19:00:17 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 19:02:04 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:02:09 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:02:33 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 19:05:31 <Alberth> like locomotion 19:06:19 <Alberth> freeform is probably even newer 19:07:07 <canin> every game i know with freeform plopping has problems because it's drag and drop, instead of planning things 19:10:15 <canin> I'm thinking maybe a rolling average with linear points is all that's needed. 19:11:24 <Alberth> it's a different market segment; the casual gamer doesn't want to plan things 19:11:52 <canin> well the planning jsut means dragging and confirming building up to wahtever point you want 19:12:36 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:13:00 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:04 <canin> solves the problem of drag and drop being problematic... and you're still dropping the path with points on a grid so the data format is simple 19:14:18 <Alberth> like http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=57080 ([patch] Polyline track building tool) in development forum? 19:15:06 <canin> Heh ya that'd be a simple precursor. 19:15:50 <canin> although i'd jsut click-down points and autofull inbetween the points, with predicted smoothing for curves 19:16:20 <canin> ah he's doing click-in instead of drag in too 19:17:58 *** Vinnie_nl [~VincentAi@54681098.cm-12-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:18:25 <Vinnie_nl> hello any AI devs arround to answer a simple question? 19:18:43 <Alberth> ask a question and find out :p 19:19:03 <Vinnie_nl> GSSign.BuildSign(100, 100, GSText.STR_SIGN_A) 19:19:26 <Vinnie_nl> I know its goalscript but they are similar 19:19:42 <Alberth> I believe you :) 19:20:03 <Vinnie_nl> I get an error if i use that command. But why 19:20:25 <Alberth> what does it say? 19:21:47 <Vinnie_nl> your script made an error: wrong number of parameters 19:22:08 <Vinnie_nl> in main.nut file wich i know because i added just this one line to that file 19:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause> do you have a link to the specs? 19:22:20 <Vinnie_nl> and then the one i don't understand 19:22:27 <Vinnie_nl> [this] INSTANCE 19:22:34 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:23:05 <Alberth> static SignID AISign::BuildSign ( TileIndex location, Text * name ) 19:23:23 <Alberth> ie, you need to construct a tile index of the x/y coordinare 19:23:32 <Vinnie_nl> aha 19:23:38 <Vinnie_nl> back to wiki 19:28:38 <Alberth> Vinnie_nl: static TileIndex GetTileIndex (uint32 x, uint32 y) <-- in AIMap 19:29:59 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has joined #openttd 19:31:02 *** chester_ [~chester@95-25-34-163.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:37:16 <Vinnie_nl> that does kinda work, thank you :) 19:44:14 *** 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