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00:22:14 <TomyLobo> extending the openttd window to a 2nd monitor is nice. would be even nicer if i didnt have the newspaper, the quickbar and every other window that happens to spawn there split in half :) 00:33:49 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 00:33:59 <Eddi|zuHause> you can set the toolbar to left or right alignment 00:35:41 <Eddi|zuHause> there once was a hacky patch that forced the "center" alignment to only use half the window width, to help with dualscreen (assuming two same size screens) 00:35:58 <TomyLobo> ok, i'll look for that option :) 00:38:53 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:50:09 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@189.58.31.124.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 00:50:09 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.16.69.195] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:26 <Eddi|zuHause> # Die Wagenreihung ist genau das Gegenteil vom Plan 00:50:28 <Eddi|zuHause> # Senk ju for trÀveling wis Deutsche Bahn 00:50:29 <Eddi|zuHause> (why can't i get this song out of my head? :p) 00:52:18 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 01:38:04 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 01:46:26 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-159-068.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 02:05:01 *** DabuYu [DoubleYou@400l-60641.sli.unimelb.edu.au] has joined #openttd 02:05:21 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.91.199] has joined #openttd 02:15:08 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@189.58.31.124.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:42:20 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:50:17 *** gombee [~gombee@00019f9f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 03:35:39 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:29 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 03:54:40 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:55:26 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 04:20:04 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.91.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:27:09 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 04:40:49 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.91.199] has joined #openttd 04:44:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B742.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5DDE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66447.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:01:17 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:14:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 05:34:42 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@218.47.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:39:02 <andythenorth> 'Cotton and Sisal Plantation' - too stupid for an industry name? 05:41:58 <andythenorth> Fibre Plantation? 05:42:05 <andythenorth> Fibre Crop Plantation 05:49:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B742.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:31:54 <planetmaker> good morning 06:32:05 <planetmaker> <andythenorth> [23:40:33] I need a name for a plantation that grows fibre crops (sisal and cotton) <-- "fibre crop plantation" 06:32:10 <planetmaker> sounds logical to me :-) 06:32:22 <planetmaker> or "fibre crops farm" 06:33:51 <andythenorth> +1 to farm 06:34:13 <andythenorth> too many plantations in this economy 06:34:59 <planetmaker> so be it :-) 06:38:41 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:43:05 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:45:17 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 07:11:33 *** boilpoil [~boilpoil@n246z16l55.broadband.ctm.net] has joined #openttd 07:13:35 <boilpoil> hello 07:13:39 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:13:58 <boilpoil> id like to ask something about a NewGRF... 07:14:39 <boilpoil> does anyone know if ECS Vectors 1.2.0 is available for download somewhere? All I could find was 1.1.2 07:20:05 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:22:30 *** boilpoil [~boilpoil@n246z16l55.broadband.ctm.net] has quit [] 07:22:39 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 07:27:12 <planetmaker> yes. the author will know 07:28:57 <planetmaker> but as the development topic still says 1.1.2... that's probably what you'll publicly find 07:29:20 <planetmaker> and all existing 1.2.0 are only pre-releases given to certain people for testing purposes 07:29:31 <planetmaker> most likely. dunno, though 07:33:14 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 07:34:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 07:38:25 <dihedral> greetings 07:41:39 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:52:27 <planetmaker> hallo dihedral 07:53:17 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:55:28 <dihedral> hey ho planetmaker 07:59:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:59:15 <andythenorth> hmm 07:59:25 <andythenorth> is this Congo-based economy I'm doing just bad taste? o_O 07:59:38 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_colonial_empire#Congo_Free_State_.281885.E2.80.931908.29 07:59:59 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#MISTAH_KURTZ 08:00:21 <andythenorth> I want to satirise exploitation, not glorify it 08:00:35 <andythenorth> nor is it supposed to be a school lesson in colonialism 08:04:40 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 08:06:02 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:11:22 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:17:45 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-083-135.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 08:24:27 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:27:47 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@94.156.118.159] has joined #openttd 08:33:54 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 08:48:07 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@94.156.118.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:48:53 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:49:07 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:49:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:59:32 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:59:34 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.91.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:03:57 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@205.185.119.44] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:04:36 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:10:53 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has joined #openttd 09:12:37 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 09:13:22 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:21:33 *** TheDude [~Miranda@gatekeeper.amit.cz] has joined #openttd 09:28:14 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-101.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 09:37:16 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has joined #openttd 09:37:26 *** TheDude [~Miranda@gatekeeper.amit.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 09:39:25 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@94.156.118.159] has joined #openttd 09:41:41 *** Tvel1 [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 09:43:35 *** Tvel1 [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [] 09:47:54 <NGC3982> Hey, got any good tip on trainsets for ECS? 09:48:12 <NGC3982> I'm a bit tired of NARS/UKRS2/2CC. :( 09:57:48 <Alberth> nuts? 10:05:50 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 10:12:39 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:12:46 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has joined #openttd 10:16:04 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@94.156.118.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:19:06 <NGC3982> Too unrealistic. 10:19:28 <NGC3982> It's a great set, but it doesn't really give the impression of using trains. 10:19:33 <NGC3982> More than space shuttles. 10:19:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 10:28:26 <Alberth> ah right, my problem with most train sets is that they try to be true to the real world :) 10:28:29 <Alberth> o/ andy 10:30:39 <NGC3982> Alberth: Hehe. 10:35:34 *** kero [~keikoz@202.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 10:37:29 <Alberth> there is also the default set or it's opengfx+ variant :p 10:39:01 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 10:39:37 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has joined #openttd 10:43:02 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:49:07 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 10:55:35 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 10:57:57 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:04:15 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 11:08:21 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:07 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has joined #openttd 11:27:52 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:32:22 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:36:16 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.91.199] has joined #openttd 11:40:48 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 11:48:13 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 12:01:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:09:42 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:10:30 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 12:28:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 12:31:27 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 12:33:34 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@94.156.118.159] has joined #openttd 12:34:15 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@94.156.118.159] has quit [] 12:34:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B742.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:41:33 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:44:27 *** pugi_ [~pugi@host-091-097-083-135.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 12:48:42 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-083-135.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:48:43 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 12:50:07 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:07:34 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:10:38 *** guru3_ [~guru3@90-224-111-173-no225.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 13:11:12 *** guru3 [~guru3@000128ea.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:14:32 <Belugas> hello 13:14:46 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [] 13:15:03 <NGC3982> Belugas: Afternoon. 13:18:47 <Belugas> hi hi sir 13:19:05 <Belugas> my morning is cloudy, rainy and busy 13:24:04 <NGC3982> Oh. 13:24:07 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:24:10 <NGC3982> It's cloudy around here. 13:27:05 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has joined #openttd 13:36:06 <Belugas> boring, isn't it? where's the sun gone??? 13:36:53 <NGC3982> I kinda like it. 13:37:05 <NGC3982> We have had a great summer so far. 13:44:31 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 13:53:24 <Belugas> cannot exactly say the same :( bah... it's good for the plants ;) 13:53:32 <NGC3982> Indeed! 13:53:38 <NGC3982> Speaking of, i need to take a picture of my rig. 13:56:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 14:06:18 <NGC3982> http://www.flickr.com/photos/appemobile/9152381996/ 14:29:13 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 14:35:11 <Belugas> balcony garden :) 14:35:34 <Belugas> cute cat, and cute photograph too ;) 14:36:10 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:41:16 *** kero [~keikoz@202.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 14:46:23 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.128.9] has joined #openttd 14:52:59 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.91.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:58:23 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:17:51 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:17:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:18:45 <Alberth> moin 15:22:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25481 trunk/src/gfx_layout.cpp (2013-06-27 15:22:19 UTC) 15:22:25 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5620]: when the font size and colour change directly after eachother in a string, the latter isn't taken into account 15:27:37 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 15:28:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B742.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:29:32 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@218.47.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 15:30:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B742.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:43:47 *** Netsplit coulomb.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: Sacro, pugi, apiecux, TWerkhoven, SpComb, TomyLobo, Vadtec, scshunt, andythenorth, zooks, (+90 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 15:47:33 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:47:44 *** Netsplit over, joins: @orudge, Born_Acorn, Prof_Frink, KenjiE20, EyeMWing, George, XeryusTC, SmatZ, lobster, GoneWacko (+90 more) 15:47:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 15:51:42 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:54:50 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 16:05:18 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:11:25 <Terkhen> hello 16:13:22 <andythenorth> hola Terkhen 16:13:25 <andythenorth> que tal? 16:13:56 <Terkhen> somewhat tired, but fine :P 16:18:06 <Alberth> have some coffee :) 16:18:38 <Alberth> the day has just started, right? 16:24:25 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25482 /trunk/src (gfx_layout.cpp gfx_layout.h) (2013-06-27 16:24:19 UTC) 16:24:26 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5620]: forced newlines were not properly handled 16:25:16 * Terkhen is actually trying to drink less coffee lately 16:25:36 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25483 trunk/src/gfx_layout.h (2013-06-27 16:25:30 UTC) 16:25:37 <DorpsGek> -Fix: don't commit too much... 16:25:51 <__ln__> Terkhen: are you going to participate the Meeting? 16:26:16 <Terkhen> __ln__: nope 16:26:29 <__ln__> what's your excuse? :) 16:28:46 <andythenorth> you don't even have a baby :o 16:28:49 <andythenorth> or do you? o_O 16:32:21 <__ln__> and if you don't, it's certainly too late to obtain one before 27th jul. 16:34:06 <V453000> adopted children also count into excuse list 16:45:34 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:51:45 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 17:10:44 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 17:14:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18640.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:17:37 <Eddi|zuHause> "Our tool found 1.2k crashes in debian packages. how do we file these reports correctly?" :p 17:18:19 <Xaroth|Work> o_O 17:18:23 <Eddi|zuHause> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/06/msg00720.html 17:19:04 <Rubidium> ... but didn't find one in OpenTTD? 17:19:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:22:07 <planetmaker> lol, Eddi|zuHause :-) 17:23:13 *** DabuYu [DoubleYou@400l-60641.sli.unimelb.edu.au] has quit [] 17:30:28 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3712.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:37:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:37:31 <Wolf01> hello 17:45:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25484 /trunk/src/lang (luxembourgish.txt slovak.txt) (2013-06-27 17:45:14 UTC) 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:24 <DorpsGek> luxembourgish - 21 changes by Phreeze 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> slovak - 2 changes by Milsa 17:46:55 <Alberth> hello Wolf01 17:47:16 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.128.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:53:55 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:08:12 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:22:36 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:45 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-101.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:28:41 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:34 <szaman> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN1nxxKII7U - do you guys know these videos? :] made my day 18:33:52 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25485 trunk/src/gfx_layout.cpp (2013-06-27 18:33:46 UTC) 18:33:53 <DorpsGek> -Fix-ish: silence compiler warning 18:44:53 <Eddi|zuHause> two in the chest, one in the head? 18:45:48 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [] 18:48:44 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 18:49:25 <Eddi|zuHause> szaman: all that shows me is how i hate "solo" piano music... 18:57:06 <szaman> oh. 18:58:15 <Bad_Brett> what have i missed? 18:59:20 <Alberth> everything 19:00:00 <Bad_Brett> that's not good 19:00:02 <Alberth> but no worries, internet keeps records of it :) 19:00:15 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:00:17 <Alberth> @logs 19:00:17 <DorpsGek> Alberth: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd 19:00:48 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:50 <Bad_Brett> ah very handy 19:02:26 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:08 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:07:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66447.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 19:09:32 <Bad_Brett> if i use the nmlc.exe -c option, will the offsets be properly adjusted or is better to crop the images before compiling? 19:09:50 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 19:13:35 <Alberth> offsets will be changed to compensate for the differences in sprite size 19:13:52 <Alberth> at least that happened in 32bpp zbase :p 19:14:09 <andythenorth> so is this congo economy bad taste? 19:14:11 <Bad_Brett> splendid 19:14:33 <Supercheese> I'd prefer a conga economy. Dance, dance 19:14:35 <Supercheese> :P 19:14:38 <andythenorth> fair point 19:14:44 * andythenorth has moral doubt 19:14:45 <Alberth> Bad_Brett: but just try it, if the sprites are all wrongly aligned, it doesn't work :) 19:15:12 <Bad_Brett> i'm gonna try it then, my own cropping algorithm is a bit jumpy during animations :P 19:16:11 <Alberth> Bad_Brett: worst case, you'll have to remove the -c option again :) 19:16:34 <Alberth> andythenorth: congo has little meaning outside britain perhaps? 19:17:10 <Alberth> Ie it's some land in Africa, but that's all I know about it 19:17:12 <Supercheese> it's still a country, no? 19:17:36 <Supercheese> two countries, even 19:17:52 <Bad_Brett> yeah 19:18:04 <Supercheese> seems quite a large place 19:18:13 <Alberth> see, I didn't even know that :) 19:18:19 <Supercheese> Area - Total 2,345,409 km² 19:18:29 <Supercheese> and that's just for the larger of the two 19:18:55 <Bad_Brett> Congo-Kinshasa and Republic of the Congo 19:19:08 <Alberth> you can play 2048x2048 for real there :) 19:19:36 <Bad_Brett> you may recall a country called Zaire :) 19:21:28 <Alberth> sounds familiar :) 19:23:29 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25486 /trunk/src/script/api (script_company.cpp script_town.cpp) (2013-06-27 19:23:23 UTC) 19:23:30 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5613-ish]: missing length validation for town and president names in script APIs 19:24:36 <andythenorth> Alberth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_colonial_empire#Congo_Free_State_.281885.E2.80.931908.29 19:26:57 <andythenorth> cheerful eh? 19:27:03 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:43 <Alberth> nice country indeed 19:28:34 <Alberth> but you can have an 'atomic bomb' cargo :p 19:28:53 <andythenorth> I considered it :P 19:30:11 <Alberth> so why 'congo' economy? just for its rubber? 19:30:36 <andythenorth> hmm 19:30:41 <andythenorth> my sense of humour 19:31:15 <andythenorth> the economy is pretty much 'export everything, make nothing' 19:31:24 <andythenorth> which I find satirical 19:31:30 <andythenorth> but others may not get that 19:32:10 <andythenorth> nvm 19:32:33 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32:35 <andythenorth> we need a cargo chart making tool :) 19:33:02 <andythenorth> like the industry chain diagram in openttd, but all chains at once ;P 19:36:55 <Alberth> +1 19:37:28 <Rubidium> dot? 19:37:51 <Xaroth|Work> ^ 19:38:15 <Alberth> or another graphviz layout algorithm :) 19:38:49 <andythenorth> can the game do it? 19:39:07 <andythenorth> or would this be a standalone app? 19:39:48 <Xaroth|Work> could be integrated in nmlc to generate dot files/graphs on demand 19:40:09 <Alberth> quality of dot is not sufficient to bother 19:41:45 <Alberth> only way to get good quality is to do it manually, afaik 19:42:37 <andythenorth> dunno what this is https://gephi.org/features/ 19:43:10 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:43:18 <Xaroth|Work> looks.. complex 19:43:48 <andythenorth> http://keylines.com/neo4j 19:43:56 <Xaroth|Work> or well, not complex, complicated 19:44:01 <andythenorth> http://keylines.com/features 19:44:24 <andythenorth> hmm 19:44:35 <andythenorth> render each cargo flow as a layer? 19:44:40 <andythenorth> then composite 19:44:47 * andythenorth is thinking about getting pngs out of it 19:44:56 <Xaroth|Work> meh 19:44:57 <Xaroth|Work> java 19:45:10 <Xaroth|Work> a whole lot of oomph required for a simple graph 19:45:22 <andythenorth> javascript 19:45:28 <andythenorth> not same 19:45:44 <andythenorth> https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery 19:46:04 <andythenorth> http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~n2iskand/?page_id=13 19:46:16 <Xaroth|Work> neo4j is java 19:46:52 <Xaroth|Work> d3 is nice 19:46:57 <andythenorth> ah, ok. The graph library was what I was intending to link ;) 19:47:07 <andythenorth> JS, then render with http://phantomjs.org 19:47:52 <Xaroth|Work> then again, you could just make it render a html page 19:47:59 <Xaroth|Work> with the svg embedded 19:48:02 <andythenorth> that too 19:48:05 <Xaroth|Work> saves having to render 19:48:06 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:48:21 <andythenorth> does openttd have a html capability? o_O 19:48:37 * andythenorth is trolling 19:48:52 <Rubidium> andythenorth: yes 19:49:02 <Xaroth|Work> no, but i heard they were contemplating moving savegames to an xml format. 19:49:23 <Rubidium> (assuming having coloured text is a capability of html) 19:55:28 <Alberth> Xaroth|Work: why use an xml format when you have base64 ? :) 19:56:14 <Xaroth|Work> Alberth: better, base64'd xml! 19:56:25 <Xaroth|Work> with, ofcourse, binary data represented as base64 in the xml 19:56:51 <Alberth> and compressed to reduce disk space or band width or so 19:57:00 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25487 trunk/src/command.cpp (2013-06-27 19:56:54 UTC) 19:57:01 <DorpsGek> -Fix: do not allow control codes in names of things (signs, vehicles, towns, stations, etc), so they have a known maximum fixed size and are, by definition, the same for everyone 19:57:47 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25488 /trunk/src/script/api (9 files) (2013-06-27 19:57:41 UTC) 19:57:48 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5613]: do not send encoded texts to names, but decode them into a plain C string and then pass them on 20:02:15 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c83-253-81-248.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 20:04:33 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.31.124.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 20:07:14 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25489 trunk/src/script/api/script_text.cpp (2013-06-27 20:07:09 UTC) 20:07:15 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r25488): we want to have the begin, not the end of the decoded text as string to pass along 20:18:18 <andythenorth> ho ho 20:18:29 <andythenorth> I got my FIRS compiles faster for testing 20:18:47 <andythenorth> I get about 2m 20s back on every build 20:19:12 <andythenorth> I have been building about 20 times per hour... 20:19:12 <Alberth> any faster and you'll live backwards! 20:19:20 <andythenorth> nice idea 20:19:37 <andythenorth> any evening I want to do TTD, I have about 2 hours between dinner and bed 20:19:52 <andythenorth> I spend 40 mins per waiting for compiles and 20 mins writing code :P 20:20:10 <andythenorth> that might get better now :) 20:20:13 <Alberth> why do you run the compiler so often? 20:20:20 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25490 /trunk/src (company_cmd.cpp company_manager_face.h) (2013-06-27 20:20:13 UTC) 20:20:21 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5610]: the face of the manager differed on clients when the company was started after the clients joined 20:20:30 <andythenorth> I rely on compiling to find mistakes 20:20:36 <andythenorth> it's always the way I've done it 20:20:43 <andythenorth> compile early and often 20:20:48 <andythenorth> same when I was writing flash games 20:21:14 <andythenorth> more gameplay testing, more ideas this way 20:24:36 <Alberth> I sometimes have to write a large amount of code, and don't compile for weeks then 20:24:50 <Alberth> but shorter cycles are usually easier to manage 20:25:12 <andythenorth> I make a lot of mistakes :) 20:25:33 <andythenorth> I wouldn't like to face the mountain that would build up after a few weeks 20:26:57 <Alberth> your fast compile times have you spoiled you :) 20:27:19 <andythenorth> normally I'm writing web apps :P 20:27:26 <andythenorth> reload, refresh 20:27:29 <andythenorth> no compile 20:28:33 <Alberth> writing Java also has that advantage, Eclipse nicely hides it all 20:29:05 <Rubidium> LabView as well ;) 20:29:58 <Rubidium> though I like Java better ;) 20:30:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25491 trunk/bin/ai/regression/regression.txt (2013-06-27 20:30:22 UTC) 20:30:29 <DorpsGek> -Fix: ofcourse... doing something with Random messes with the regression result... 20:34:14 <andythenorth> hmm 20:34:30 <andythenorth> having a complete industry chain view would be handy when authoring FIRS 20:34:36 * andythenorth ponders 20:34:49 <andythenorth> do I *really* want to teach myself graph layout and do it with PIL? 20:34:54 <andythenorth> that would suck 20:36:29 <Xaroth|Work> s/PIL/Pillow/ 20:39:08 <andythenorth> yeah point 20:39:11 <andythenorth> but anyway 20:43:10 <Alberth> PIL is about pixels, not about graphs. Generating SVG may be easier 20:44:30 <andythenorth> what, all those line length calculations wouldn't be fun? :P 20:44:38 <andythenorth> I am +1 20:44:46 <andythenorth> except I have no idea where to start :) 20:50:40 <Alberth> drawing lines at pixel level is not so difficult :p 20:50:56 <Alberth> that is, until you want to have anti-aliasing :p 20:51:07 <andythenorth> or gradients 20:51:11 <andythenorth> or drop shadows 20:51:14 <andythenorth> or superimposed text 20:52:17 <Alberth> if you aim for a general solution, I'd suggest to start reading about planar graph algorithms 20:52:33 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c83-253-81-248.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 20:52:44 <andythenorth> :( 20:52:52 <andythenorth> I worried someone would say words like that :) 20:52:53 <planetmaker> hello 20:53:01 <andythenorth> can I just pick the colours? 20:53:05 <andythenorth> hello planetmaker 20:55:32 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:56:01 <Alberth> sorry andy 20:56:07 <Alberth> hello planetmaker 20:56:46 <andythenorth> hmm 20:56:55 <andythenorth> now I have to sort out some industry location restrictions 20:57:17 <Alberth> I am just as clueless with such graphs. I briefly considered it for the chain window, but quickly discarded it due to too high complexity 20:57:57 <andythenorth> I was trying to figure out if the chain window can be made to do it 20:58:05 <Alberth> just pick the right ones, and leave the left ones? :p 20:58:16 <andythenorth> :P 20:58:50 <Alberth> you can obviously extend the window to draw pre-decessors of the pre-decessors 20:58:55 <Terkhen> good night 20:59:25 <Alberth> the problem is however to decide when to stop, and how to handle 'double' references 21:01:53 <andythenorth> I suspect it's easy-ish for a person to draw once http://jorgeoh.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/rrt3_04.png 21:01:58 <andythenorth> and hard to do automatically 21:02:42 <__ln__> Wolf01: are you going to the Meeting? 21:02:58 <andythenorth> hmm 21:03:09 <andythenorth> if I was better at javascript I could hack on this 21:03:18 <andythenorth> FIRS docs already have all the industries and cargos in scope 21:03:27 <andythenorth> just need to put data attributes on some divs 21:03:41 <andythenorth> then draw additional lines between any node that has a matched cargo pair 21:04:23 <Wolf01> what meeting? 21:04:24 <andythenorth> making a nice layout is almost too hard to bother 21:04:45 <planetmaker> r25+4k meeting, Wolf01 21:05:01 <planetmaker> hm... 25k 21:05:18 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=66728 21:05:34 <Alberth> andythenorth: indeed, manually is quite doable, although it takes effort. Automagically is almpost not doable, see output of graphviz :) 21:06:53 <andythenorth> so use each industry image....draw connecting lines, do a nasty default grid layout, make the industries draggable... 21:06:54 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/1.2.0/docs/html/industries.html 21:07:01 <andythenorth> let the end user move stuff around :P 21:07:07 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:12:17 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:16:41 <Alberth> :) 21:16:52 <Alberth> good night 21:17:00 <planetmaker> good night, Alberth 21:17:27 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:19:02 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r25492 trunk/src/spritecache.cpp (2013-06-27 21:18:56 UTC) 21:19:03 <DorpsGek> -Doc: Missing comment. 21:21:52 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25493 /trunk/src (4 files) (2013-06-27 21:21:47 UTC) 21:21:53 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: support for the safer variant of ICU's getFontTable 21:31:59 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:32:02 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 21:37:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:41:34 <planetmaker> good night 21:51:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18640.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:42 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:02 <Wolf01> 'night 22:08:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:09:25 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:16:29 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3712.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:31:47 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 22:39:59 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has joined #openttd 22:42:04 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:38 *** Vick1211 [~oftc-webi@CPE0018f3d2363e-CM78cd8e7d58dd.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 22:49:44 <Vick1211> I'm currently having an issue where my train isn't going all the way to the end of the track but instead it's stopping at the depot each and every time, and instead of continuing the route it resatrts it, can anyone help 22:49:44 <Vick1211> ? 23:04:58 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:09:39 *** Vick1211 [~oftc-webi@CPE0018f3d2363e-CM78cd8e7d58dd.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:18:53 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:42:29 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:42:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 23:47:54 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-82-194.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:50:44 *** gombee [~gombee@00019f9f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]