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00:10:56 <Supercheese> Ugh, it's more than 40°C in the sun here 00:11:07 <Supercheese> a tad bit less in the shade 00:13:19 *** amiller [~amiller@pool-96-255-47-217.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:28:42 <DabuYu> i'm wondering, is there a grf set (or any project) which creates buildings which are actually existing, so towns will have existing world buildings? especially i'm interested in skyscrapers :) 00:55:43 *** xDraKx [~bd1abd14@redenorte.net] has quit [Quit: (( WebIRC Gratuito www.webirc.com.br )) (EOF)] 00:58:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:01:40 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@99-62-16-103.lightspeed.chrlnc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 01:24:31 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:27:28 *** dryerlint [~dryerlint@204-195-36-252.wavecable.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:11:04 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@99-62-16-103.lightspeed.chrlnc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:12:10 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@99-62-16-103.lightspeed.chrlnc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 02:21:31 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@99-62-16-103.lightspeed.chrlnc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 02:23:39 *** montalvo [~montalvo@macbook60.icrar.org] has joined #openttd 02:23:50 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:24:23 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@raspberrypi.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 02:30:26 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl20-251-190.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 02:34:14 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-238-111.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:55:12 <planetmaker> DabuYu, have a look maybe at Total Town Replacement Set (TTRS) 04:16:43 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:18:07 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:18:37 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 04:43:39 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 04:50:59 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD46E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD59A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:58:44 <SamanthaD> why is svn telling me to relocate my checkout from https://secure.openttd.org/svn to http://secure.openttd.org/svn? 05:01:37 <planetmaker> hm... good idea: the pool cabrio :D http://www.fr-online.de/image/view/2013/6/23/23799012,20808047,highRes,maxh,480,maxw,480,3cz45026.jpg 05:03:27 <krinn> did you notice the road full of water behind it :) 05:03:53 <planetmaker> they really filled it totally with water. That's real 05:03:58 <SamanthaD> that boat is backwards... 05:04:12 <SamanthaD> the boat is supposed to go in the water... 05:04:14 <SamanthaD> not the other way around 05:04:15 <krinn> that must be so funky when taking turns 05:04:25 <krinn> (the car) 05:04:41 <SamanthaD> oh my god, that IS a car! O.O 05:04:41 <planetmaker> I guess. But for a bit cruising :-) probably cool during this weather 05:04:55 <krinn> lol SamanthaD 05:05:02 <SamanthaD> weird... 05:05:23 <krinn> planetmaker, you may also notice how cool it is by checking the water cleaness 05:05:35 <planetmaker> :-) 05:06:01 <planetmaker> that car was caught yesterday by police. Mostly as it drove around w/o license plate :D 05:06:10 <krinn> no place for a pump : well, that guy just create the fastest mosquito incubator 05:06:48 <planetmaker> maybe a drain down? 05:06:59 <planetmaker> easy to pull the plug then 05:06:59 <krinn> lmao you see how clean the water is 05:07:20 <SamanthaD> it's pretty dirty... 05:07:26 <SamanthaD> I wouldn't drink it O.O 05:07:29 <krinn> imo he count more on keep adding water and let the sun remove some 05:07:59 <SamanthaD> so... is someone planning on making a NewGRF of the amazing carboat? 05:08:11 <krinn> SamanthaD, seriously even not drinking, would you expose, well, the lower part of your body in such a dirty water ? 05:08:54 <SamanthaD> what if I were wearing one of those rubber pants things that they give to incontinent people? 05:09:25 <krinn> Adding more ridiculous to that car is doable with those rubber pants yes 05:09:35 <SamanthaD> :D 05:09:49 <SamanthaD> damnit! now I'm itchy! 05:10:37 <krinn> should wrote to the guy to insult him ! how could he didn't put a boat horn on it ! 05:11:35 <SamanthaD> or a boat wheel! 05:12:01 <Supercheese> or an outboard motor 05:12:10 <SamanthaD> haha! 05:12:13 <Supercheese> put a big fan on it, get some extra thrust 05:13:04 <SamanthaD> what about a boat with a self-propelled launch trailer? 05:13:05 <krinn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjR5K_Fb6r4 :) 05:18:38 <SamanthaD> why the heck is svn demanding that I checkout from http://secure.openttd.org/svn instead of https://secure.openttd.org/svn?! 05:20:18 <Supercheese> I dunno 05:21:10 * SamanthaD would really rather not trust the man-in-the-middle with handling the integrity of a binary to run on my computer >.> 05:23:09 <krinn> it's more to protect eyes from seeing it while transfering it, md5... are there for the alteration protection. 05:23:33 <SamanthaD> the md5 can be altered just as easily as anything else 05:23:48 <SamanthaD> you protect against alteration with public key cyphers 05:24:07 <SamanthaD> RSA as implemented in SSL, for example 05:24:38 <SamanthaD> MD5 is good for checking against accidental corruption though 05:25:12 <planetmaker> against all corruption really 05:25:19 <SamanthaD> mmhm 05:25:26 <SamanthaD> but not a MitM attack 05:25:36 <SamanthaD> a MitM would just regenerate the MD5 05:25:46 <krinn> lol how would your man in middle can calc the md5 of a flow of datas 05:25:47 <planetmaker> encryption is to keep it secret. checksums to ... check integrity 05:26:30 <SamanthaD> krinn: they wouldn't. They would redirect the stream entirely to an evil mirror that contains the contaminated code plus doctored MD5 05:26:48 <SamanthaD> encryption can also be used to check integrity via cryptographic signing 05:27:27 <krinn> SamanthaD, you are speaking of men that are more than good, but so dumb they do all this shit instead of hacking your computer that would be easier and faster 05:28:58 <planetmaker> anyway, have a good day all :-) 05:29:05 <SamanthaD> later planetmaker :3 05:29:06 <krinn> bye planetmaker 05:29:43 <SamanthaD> krinn: how do you think you hack a computer ;) 05:30:33 <krinn> certainly more easy than trying to hack a server to let it hack finally your target computer 05:31:05 <SamanthaD> you don't have to hack the server 05:31:12 <SamanthaD> you just have to poison my comuter's DNS pool 05:31:27 <SamanthaD> computer, not commuter 05:31:42 <SamanthaD> if you poison a commuter it's a rather more serious affair 05:32:52 <krinn> well, considering if those kind of guys were at work against you, yes, i would say it's a serious affair 05:33:16 <SamanthaD> I'm not paranoid, I'm just for security best-practices 05:33:44 <krinn> Are you that SamanthaD that keep writing me email to transfert your father's money from cameroun because he cannot do it but will grant me 20% reward ? 05:34:20 <SamanthaD> no, but she sounds pretty legit 05:34:26 <krinn> ^^ 05:34:51 <krinn> i nearly fall from my chair, sounds pretty legit :D 05:34:57 <SamanthaD> n_n 05:44:11 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.115.191.171] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:49:39 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:07:45 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-133-76.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 06:10:19 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 481 seconds] 06:14:10 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:25:05 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-029-245.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 06:55:19 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:09:06 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 07:12:20 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 07:26:54 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:28:19 *** Aristide [~quassel@ip-59.net-81-220-245.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #openttd 07:49:36 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-029-245.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 07:56:05 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:56:27 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:56:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:09:21 <Alberth> moin 08:15:34 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:18:37 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: .] 08:23:37 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 08:25:28 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:35:01 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 08:41:59 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:46:13 *** MrShell [~mrshell@HSI-KBW-5-56-195-183.hsi17.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 08:59:38 *** ToBeFree [~tobefree@00019d36.user.oftc.net] has left #openttd [user to computer ratio too high] 08:59:49 *** ToBeFree [ToBeFree@00019d36.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:04:03 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 09:07:29 <Aristide> Alberth: o/ 09:07:34 <Aristide> Alberth: You ? HERE ? :o 09:15:52 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:16:45 *** kais58|A1K is now known as kais58_13 09:18:18 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 09:21:07 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:23:15 *** MrShell [~mrshell@HSI-KBW-5-56-195-183.hsi17.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:23:35 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:35:25 <Alberth> no I am not :) 09:37:54 <Xaroth|Work> he's over there 09:57:44 *** MatrixCL [~mielipuol@host-109-204-157-114.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:24 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 10:01:52 <SamanthaD> oh hey guys! 10:08:22 *** Netsplit graviton.oftc.net <-> synthon.oftc.net quits: Sacro, @DorpsGek, kais58_13, SamanthaD, Pensacola, TomyLobo, Vadtec, apiecux, lugo, tokai|mdlx, (+92 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 10:09:26 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 10:09:28 *** Netsplit over, joins: roboboy, KenjiE20, SpComb, George, @orudge, Sacro, Born_Acorn, lobster, @SmatZ, XeryusTC (+92 more) 10:18:28 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:18:29 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:18:32 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 10:29:30 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 10:39:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B1AE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:47:38 *** Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@0001b11e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:03:08 <dihedral> greetings 11:03:18 *** zooks [~zooks@wlan-177-249.wlan.ru.nl] has joined #openttd 11:03:21 <Xaroth|Work> o/ dih 11:12:11 <__ln__> the forecast is 34° for saturday 11:12:41 <TrueBrain> http://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD <- I just had to do that :P 11:12:59 <Xaroth|Work> lolz 11:14:07 <TrueBrain> __ln__: can we assume planetmaker has a pool ready then? 11:23:01 <dihedral> I am driving up from Karlsruhe - is there anybody on the way who wants/needs a lift? 11:25:28 <Aristide> 34°C here too 11:25:29 <Aristide> >< 11:28:44 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: it's supposed to be the warmest weekend of the year 11:28:55 <Eddi|zuHause> thanks to Yohannes 11:28:56 <Eddi|zuHause> :p 11:38:21 *** kais58_13 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:38:30 *** kais58_13 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:41:37 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:50:46 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 11:51:35 *** montalvo [~montalvo@macbook60.icrar.org] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 11:57:27 <V453000> http://archiv.roumen.cz/a/rtfm_fm.jpg 11:57:28 <V453000> :> 11:59:04 <Eddi|zuHause> there should be a "manual" in "normal" language, and a "fucking manual" using a lot of swear words :p 12:04:50 <V453000> :) 12:15:47 <zooks> or just link to the kamasutra as fucking manual 12:19:31 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:29:36 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:33:40 *** Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@0001b11e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Wuzzy] 12:35:42 <Eddi|zuHause> wrong emphasis :p 12:36:01 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:39:25 <Belugas> hello 12:45:09 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45:44 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has joined #openttd 12:45:52 <krinn> heloo 12:54:57 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 12:57:49 <V453000> good one zooks :D 13:28:22 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:32:26 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-37-76.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:32:41 <LordAro> afternoon all 13:32:53 *** Madis [~Madis@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 13:39:25 <Madis> Good evening. I'm wondering if it is possible to change OpenTTD strings via newGRF. newGRF specs state that Action4 feature 48 does not work with OpenTTD and translations must be done via webtranslator, so I'm not sure I can rename stuff with GRF. Can I? 13:40:17 <krinn> if to rename stuff in newGRF you need Action4 feature 48 i think you have the answer no? 13:40:20 <Madis> Was thinking about changing the Company Manager face dialog to a company logo dialog which could be customised but that would require ui text changes as well 13:40:52 <Madis> I'm just asking if there is another way 13:41:23 <krinn> oh, no idea then 13:44:29 <Eddi|zuHause> Madis: there was once a discussion about a mapping between (TTD-Original) GRF string IDs and OpenTTD's internal string IDs, but i don't remember if that was actually implemented. if it was, then a few special strings could be changed by NewGRF, but not all 13:45:15 <krinn> Could you implement the logo stuff without translating text ? 13:45:44 <krinn> If you get a company with "McDonald" logo and bellow the company president name, i don't see a problem 13:51:03 <Madis> well yes I could, but I dont want to. Change the nosehair of McDonald's just does't feel right 13:51:06 <Eddi|zuHause> Madis: src/newgrf_text.cpp has the mapping 13:51:14 <Eddi|zuHause> Madis: add your string there 14:08:21 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:10:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Madis: note that this will only allow changing the strings that are there in TTD already, not the additional OpenTTD strings (e.g. the 'advanced' selection) 14:13:42 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-029-245.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 14:15:06 *** amiller [~amiller@pool-96-255-47-217.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:20 *** tst [~id@pool-77-222-102-194.is74.ru] has joined #openttd 14:22:38 <Eddi|zuHause> Madis: something like this: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/newgrf_face_strings.diff 14:23:53 *** tst [~id@pool-77-222-102-194.is74.ru] has quit [] 14:25:00 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a bit nasty that the OpenTTD-order is button-tooltip-button-tooltip-... while the TTD order is button-button-...-tooltip-tooltip-... 14:25:21 *** zooks [~zooks@wlan-177-249.wlan.ru.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:27:29 <krinn> Eddi|zuHause, look 14:28:03 <krinn> :) lol in a sec 14:28:37 <Eddi|zuHause> you only get one free highlight per day. the next one costs 10⬠14:29:01 *** Madis [~Madis@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:29:28 <krinn> i forget to run it with logging, rerun 14:30:52 <krinn> dbg: [script] [1] [I] AIEngine.CanPullCargo (false) : PASS(0) 14:30:52 <krinn> dbg: [script] [1] [I] AIEngine.CanPullCargo (true) : VALU(10) STEL(9) IORE(8) WOOD(7) GRAI(6) GOOD(5) LVST(4) OIL_(3) MAIL(2) COAL(1) PASS(0) 14:31:06 <krinn> the false is with callback 08 enable 14:31:23 <krinn> dbg: [script] [1] [I] AIEngine.GetName : B IX (K.Bay.Sts.B.) 14:31:51 <Eddi|zuHause> B sounds like a branch line engine 14:32:04 <krinn> per default only allow passengers 14:32:14 <__ln__> does anyone need anything finland-ish? 14:32:31 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: you had some candy last time? 14:33:11 <__ln__> yeah, i did, and i'm taking the same with me again 14:35:03 <Eddi|zuHause> krinn: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/entry/scripts/project_config.py <-- this file contains the mapping between "usage description" and "pulls only passengers" flag 14:36:03 <krinn> http://pastebin.com/7cv5hG5x log of that engine 14:36:34 <Eddi|zuHause> krinn: if you look up the engine in the available vehicles menu, it should say "usage: passengers" or "usage: branch line" or something 14:37:30 *** amiller [~amiller@129-2-129-154.wireless.umd.edu] has joined #openttd 14:38:40 <krinn> cannot lookup as i don't get the 08 value 14:39:07 <krinn> but it should be set to STR_USAGE_PASSENGER i think 14:41:47 <Eddi|zuHause> what's a "08 value"? 14:42:28 <krinn> wait picking the right name :) 14:43:02 <krinn> ai_special_flag (nfo property 08) 14:43:16 <krinn> it's the name you gave me 14:44:02 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, that. yes 14:46:27 <Eddi|zuHause> "BIX B IX (K.Bay.Sts.B.) express bav 1 core 1874 1887" 14:47:00 <Eddi|zuHause> this is really early in the game, or did you enable "vehicles never expire" again? 14:47:14 <krinn> expire off, but 1920 14:47:51 <Eddi|zuHause> the line above says "available between 1874 and 1887" 14:48:29 <krinn> ah yes vehicle never expire was back on 14:50:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i should make a warning "this set should be played with 'vehicles never expire OFF'" 14:50:35 <krinn> you autochange train on date ? 14:50:59 <Eddi|zuHause> a few graphics change when visiting a depot 14:51:09 <Eddi|zuHause> only repainting, no stats change 14:51:28 <krinn> lol hopefuly 14:52:13 <krinn> push date to 1660 list of wagons is impressive 14:52:24 <krinn> 1960 14:52:44 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-121-225.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:05 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i should remove some wagons if not playing with speed limit or axle weight limit 14:53:51 <Eddi|zuHause> the wagons are mostly untested 14:54:08 <Eddi|zuHause> also the purchase prices 14:54:39 <krinn> and by that date, i get the default wagons too, so the list get big 14:54:58 <Eddi|zuHause> hm? default wagons should be disabled 14:55:34 <krinn> dbg: [script] [1] [I] 913 - Open wagon is not default one ? 14:55:38 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-151-154.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:56:27 <krinn> dbg: [script] [1] [I] 1171 - Personenzugwagen (Doppelstockgliederzug) :P 14:57:15 *** ntoskrnl11 [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:57:35 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:57:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 14:58:16 <Eddi|zuHause> no, open wagon is probably not the default. 14:58:27 <Eddi|zuHause> the default wagons are called "ore wagon", "coal wagon", etc. 14:58:42 <Eddi|zuHause> krinn: shouldn't that be in english? 14:59:13 <krinn> Eddi|zuHause, think so yes 14:59:33 *** Aristide [~quassel@ip-59.net-81-220-245.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:04 <krinn> all others are in english (from the current list i see) 15:00:15 <krinn> and it means something in their name 15:00:24 <krinn> dbg: [script] [1] [I] 1151 - Accelerated-passenger car (reconstructed}) 15:01:22 <Eddi|zuHause> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Bf_Rochlitz,_Doppelstockgliederzug.jpg 15:01:56 <Eddi|zuHause> entire train is one wagon-set 15:03:46 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-151-154.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:04:11 <Eddi|zuHause> krinn: that's probably a simple oversight 15:05:01 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:05:11 <tokai|noir> I remember riding those kind of trains as kid. Especially second floor was always fun :) 15:05:57 <krinn> it's a tall one 15:06:50 <Eddi|zuHause> tokai|noir: searching for people who can draw :) 15:10:39 <tokai|noir> Eddi|zuHause: drawing is the easy part, finding time to draw the hard part :D 15:14:12 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: I can draw straws, do I then qualify? 15:14:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: if i'm desperate enough... :p 15:33:23 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:04 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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I am going to replace my HDD, and I about the best size of partitions (/, /home, ...) to use (for a 2TB drive) 17:32:00 <LordAro> any advice? 17:32:34 * Rubidium would just go for the 1 partition solution 17:33:01 * __ln__ would go for the separate /home solution 17:33:21 <krinn> i always / /home & /boot 17:35:28 <Xaroth|Work> I always dump everything on / 17:35:45 <gynter> noooope 17:35:55 <gynter> 1) use lvm 17:36:04 <gynter> or zfs :) 17:36:14 *** jankol [~oftc-webi@89-78-100-30.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 17:36:18 <Xaroth|Work> hah @ lvm 17:36:22 <gynter> /boot /home /var /tmp 17:36:26 <Xaroth|Work> that fs caused me more issues than any other 17:36:26 <gynter> and / 17:36:34 <gynter> lvm != fs btw 17:36:55 <jankol> Hi guys! 17:36:56 <gynter> And if you have problems with lvm then you should learn how to use it correctly :) 17:37:08 <gynter> also, noexec and nosuid to /tmp 17:37:27 <gynter> I also reccoment to encrypt all, except / and /boot obviously 17:37:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i usually have /, <windows>, /boot and /home 17:37:34 <gynter> also encrypted swap 17:37:46 <Xaroth|Work> no, if i have problems with it it did something I didn't tell it to do 17:37:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't have swap partitions 17:37:51 <LordAro> i've looked into lvm, but it looks scary 17:37:58 <krinn> only trust ext3&4 17:37:58 <Xaroth|Work> it's not -that- scary 17:38:09 <Xaroth|Work> it just has some loopholes 17:38:12 <Xaroth|Work> that can cause issues 17:38:22 <gynter> doesn't most distros use lvm by default already? 17:38:26 <krinn> i don't need a fancy FS that would make this or that, i need one that works and don't loose my datas for nothing 17:38:34 <Xaroth|Work> not by default 17:38:38 <Xaroth|Work> mostly as default option 17:38:41 <Xaroth|Work> but you usually get the choice 17:39:08 <gynter> dunno, haven't installed linux for a long time :D 17:39:13 <krinn> i always look at brtfs lovers with a "what the fuck" in my eyes 17:39:19 <gynter> :D:D 17:39:50 <Xaroth|Work> it gets extremely funny if you get them into a brtfs vs zfs discussion 17:39:56 <jankol> Got question, can't find answer in google/wiki. How can I disable train reversing on stations? There's no option in advanced options, in config there is only "reverse_at_signals = false". I've got 1.3.1 version running on ubuntu. 17:40:52 <krinn> jankol, trains never reverse at stations, they do at signal and end of line, if station is end of line... 17:41:00 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 17:41:20 <gynter> For worstation I'd use LMDE with Cinnamon and for server FreeBSD 17:41:45 <LordAro> i think i'll avoid lvm for now 17:41:54 <jankol> Well... I've built one that is not end of line, it's got a loop to ... I'll make a screenshot 17:41:58 <krinn> LordAro, if you don't need it, don't use it 17:41:59 <Eddi|zuHause> jankol: it might be filtered out, select "advanced settings" or "all settings" at the top 17:42:17 <LordAro> krinn: i don't know if i need it D: 17:42:28 <krinn> LordAro, then you know you don't need it 17:42:30 <Rubidium> LordAro: then you don't need it ;) 17:42:37 <LordAro> :D 17:42:40 * krinn beat Rubidium by 1s ! 17:42:57 <gynter> I use lvm because of crypto :) 17:42:59 <LordAro> 2, according to me 17:43:07 <gynter> and easier to resize partitions 17:43:13 <Rubidium> crypto is pointless anyhow, at least here 17:43:30 <LordAro> ok, so assuming fixed partition sizes, what sizes should i go for? (or, percentage) 17:43:31 <gynter> crypto is never pointless 17:43:33 <Xaroth|Work> I haven't found a single use for crypto on my machines 17:43:39 <Xaroth|Work> other than wasted cpu cycles 17:43:44 <LordAro> and actually, what particular partitions should i use? 17:43:55 <jankol> Eddi|zuHause: big thanx, didn't notice the filters in the advanced options ;-) 17:43:57 <Xaroth|Work> LordAro: 100% / 17:44:06 <krinn> i only see crypto good for laptop, if some random guys stole it, while people use crypto against cops, lol like if the guy won't be force to gave the crypto pass to them :) 17:44:11 <gynter> Xaroth|Work: depends what you hold on that computer, I have data which should never get to hands of common people (eg if someone stoles the laptop) 17:44:53 <gynter> krinn: they also need the certificate :P 17:45:00 <LordAro> Xaroth|Work, so you don't bother with separate /home, /swap etc? why? 17:45:04 <gynter> s/certificate/key/ (scumbag brain) 17:45:07 <krinn> gynter, they need nothing but you 17:45:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25626 trunk/src/lang/turkish.txt (2013-07-24 17:45:08 UTC) 17:45:17 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:18 <DorpsGek> turkish - 4 changes by wakeup 17:45:19 <Rubidium> gynter: for some reason not giving the password to the cops when they suspect there's something on it gives you (generally) way more trouble (read: jail-ish time) than just giving the password 17:45:39 <gynter> They can't jail you for that 17:45:47 <gynter> you just tell that you don't remember and thats all 17:45:54 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: something is definitely wrong there... 17:45:55 <Xaroth|Work> obstruction of justice? 17:46:05 <Xaroth|Work> impeding with an ongoing investigation 17:46:15 <gynter> they have to prove that you remember for that 17:46:24 <Xaroth|Work> it's your laptop 17:46:25 <krinn> :D 17:46:26 <Xaroth|Work> you use it 17:46:32 <Eddi|zuHause> it *used* to be that you cannot be forced to give up information that could be used against you 17:46:38 <gynter> still, too much preassure, i forogot, sry, shit happens 17:46:38 <Xaroth|Work> they only have to make it plausible that you can remember it 17:47:03 <Eddi|zuHause> (or your next of kin) 17:47:18 <gynter> Eddi|zuHause: depends on the country where you live :P 17:47:55 *** jankol [~oftc-webi@89-78-100-30.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:48:02 <gynter> but ok, what ever :P 17:48:08 <Eddi|zuHause> gynter: once upon a time it was in the definition of a "free" country, that they obey the basic human rights 17:48:11 <gynter> LordAro: I reccomend you to read 17:48:17 <gynter> there are lots of topics on the issue 17:48:23 <gynter> what partitions, how large etc 17:48:29 <gynter> what filesystems etc 17:48:35 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: that's kinda the point. They can't quite force you to decrypt it, but if they ask and you reject you are immediately seen as suspect in the case 17:48:59 <Rubidium> except when you are already the suspect, then they cannot force you to decrypt it 17:49:06 <gynter> but still, they have to prove you guilty 17:49:06 <krinn> Rubidium, yeah the "oh nothing to hide but don't want us to look" 17:49:18 <LordAro> gynter: i have been, but it seems to be a 'whatever you think is best' sort of thing 17:49:18 <Rubidium> http://maxius.nl/wetboek-van-strafvordering/artikel125k 17:49:22 <LordAro> hence i asked here :) 17:49:22 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: yes. it's the same as a "voluntary" DNA-test 17:49:46 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: like "we test all males between 20 and 40 in a 100km radius" 17:50:08 <krinn> they just try to stole your dna to avoid the huge test of all males 17:50:16 <Eddi|zuHause> and everyone who refuses the "voluntary" test, gets "special attention" 17:50:19 <krinn> want a coffee bud ? 17:50:32 <krinn> yeah thx love to gives my dna away 17:53:14 *** y2000rtc [~y2000rtc@cst-prg-10-15.cust.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 17:53:18 <Eddi|zuHause> the point is, you really *should* reject the test, because even if you know you are innocent, you could be related to the person they search 17:53:37 <Eddi|zuHause> and a DNA test will reveal that 17:54:08 <krinn> and it could me money (as they do all this with our money) 17:54:19 <krinn> "could"->cost 17:59:45 <krinn> who add project to devzone? 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18:59:16 <frosch123> you are mirroing at a line in 2d space, right? 19:00:54 <frosch123> i can only mirror on hyper-surfaces 19:05:06 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i guess it's more complicated than a simple mirror. i have a rectangle (0:a)x(0:b) and the line (0,0)-(a,b), and want the points (0,b) and (a,0) mapped on each other, the other points likewise. 19:06:14 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:21 <Eddi|zuHause> so it might be scale to square, mirror, scale back to rectangle 19:06:21 <fjb> Moin. 19:06:48 <frosch123> quak :) 19:07:39 <fjb> :) 19:07:58 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 19:09:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18175.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:09:43 <Eddi|zuHause> scaling is bad. it screws everything up :/ 19:11:08 <Eddi|zuHause> the theory was good, but the rescaling to original size has rounding problems 19:11:12 <frosch123> if you want to map (a,0) tro (0,b), then you do not mirror on the diagonal 19:11:14 <frosch123> unless a == b 19:12:47 <frosch123> so, do you want [0, a/b; b/a; 0] ? 19:14:24 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@212.51.26.35] has joined #openttd 19:15:39 <frosch123> i mean, there not many linear mappings, which map two specific points to each other (resp. an affin-linear one which maps 3 points to each other) 19:17:38 <Eddi|zuHause> the mapping is linear, and there are "enough" points that should map to each other. so yes, the formula is easy enough :) 19:19:22 <Eddi|zuHause> but, can i give a matrix transformation to GIMP? 19:21:26 <frosch123> scale it to smalles common multipel square then :p 19:24:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i did that 19:24:38 <Eddi|zuHause> but the result is only sort-of-right 19:24:57 <Eddi|zuHause> GIMP has some weird scaling 19:25:17 <Eddi|zuHause> the scaling and the rotation are not exact enough 19:27:42 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:28:55 *** Madis [~Madis@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [] 19:31:06 *** Zuu__ [~Zuu@212.51.26.35] has joined #openttd 19:31:06 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@212.51.26.35] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31:20 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@212.51.26.35] has joined #openttd 19:31:20 *** Zuu__ [~Zuu@212.51.26.35] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:27 *** Zuu__ [~Zuu@212.51.26.35] has joined #openttd 19:32:27 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@212.51.26.35] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:33:07 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@212.51.26.35] has joined #openttd 19:33:07 *** Zuu__ [~Zuu@212.51.26.35] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:05 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@212.51.26.35] has quit [] 19:40:24 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.16.176.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 19:41:35 <krinn> anyone to grant me a place @devzone ? 19:41:49 <V453000> that evil planetmaker 19:41:54 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: disable anti-aliasing or whatever 19:42:16 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not anti-aliasing, it's just inaccurate 19:42:18 <frosch123> use "colour from nearest" scaling 19:42:41 <frosch123> there is no inaccuarcy in scaling up by integer factors 19:42:57 <George> who else but planetmaker can access devzone server? 19:43:17 <George> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/ERROR/r1066/ see the error log 19:43:36 <George> It's not the set errors burt server errors 19:43:40 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: scaling up is ok, the scaling back down is the problem 19:43:49 <George> s/burt/but/ 19:44:42 <Eddi|zuHause> ^Spike^ messed around with stuff yesterday 19:44:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't seen Ammler in a while 19:45:25 <Eddi|zuHause> (that was for George) 19:45:45 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:45:50 <V453000> Eddi|zuHause: get photoshop, CS2 is for free :P 19:45:55 <V453000> seriously :) 19:46:00 <George> Where? 19:46:09 <V453000> on adobe 19:46:54 <V453000> https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=cs2_downloads 19:47:24 <Eddi|zuHause> needs signup? 19:47:28 <frosch123> V453000: why bother with the software, if the problem is on the chair? 19:47:55 <V453000> signup is terrible enough if you get quality software? :) 19:48:21 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: what do i need quality software for? 19:48:28 <V453000> fair enough 19:49:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i should just write a program for my transformation myself :/ 19:49:46 *** ntoskrnl11 [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:49 <krinn> there's still the possibility to just drop making that transformation too 19:52:11 <krinn> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3060/debugveh_screenshot.png shouldn't you use that Eddi|zuHause looks nice vs your "i don't have a pic" trains 19:53:01 <Eddi|zuHause> i have something more complicated in the works :) 19:53:21 <krinn> and the wagon name in german looks longggg normal? 19:53:42 <Eddi|zuHause> german words are statistically longer than english words, yes :) 19:54:01 <krinn> no, the wagon length 19:54:15 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, yes. the wagons are longer than normal 19:54:28 <George> V453000: Have you read the download agreement? 19:54:30 <Eddi|zuHause> they are actually not, but they are made of 3 parts that appear longer 19:54:31 <George> Adobe has disabled the activation server for CS2 products, including Acrobat 7, because of a technical issue. These products were released more than seven years ago, do not run on many modern operating systems, and are no longer supported. 19:54:31 <George> 19:54:31 <George> Adobe strongly advises against running unsupported and outdated software. The serial numbers provided as a part of the download may only be used by customers who legitimately purchased CS2 or Acrobat 7 and need to maintain their current use of these products. 19:54:38 <krinn> ultra long yes, i'm not sure 2 will fit in a 5 tiles stations 19:55:25 <V453000> George: hm that mus be new 19:55:38 <Eddi|zuHause> krinn: well you do record the length of each vehicle? 19:55:46 <Eddi|zuHause> 1 tile = 16 length units 19:55:54 <Eddi|zuHause> most wagons are 12 or 13 length units 19:56:25 <Eddi|zuHause> some wagon sets are very long chains (like MUs and stuff) 19:56:56 <George> V453000: you mean prevously they offered to download CS2 for free without any restrctions? 19:57:18 <V453000> yes, with the keys you got 19:57:30 <V453000> and now they say the keys are only for those people who got them previously, I guess 19:57:39 <V453000> the agreement certainly wasnt there when this was released 19:57:46 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:57:54 <George> There are keys, but you are not allowed to use them if you are not legal owner of CS2 19:58:07 <V453000> idk, it worked for me when I tried it before 19:58:20 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: even NEW adobe software is dangerously full of abusable bugs and loopholes. what makes you think i'm going to install _outdated_ versions? 19:58:25 <krinn> :) having it working doesn't make it legit 19:58:40 <George> You mean that you have carefully read the agreement and there was no restrictions? 19:58:54 <V453000> the new cloud is actually so bullshit that everybody uses cs6 or even portable versions now 19:59:32 <Eddi|zuHause> that wasn't the question 19:59:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose "cs6" is still maintained for security issues etc. 20:00:04 <V453000> idk what abusable bugs are you talking about 20:00:10 <V453000> cs2 still does work quite well 20:00:18 <krinn> lol i'm not sure "abode" and "maintenance" or "security" are compatible words 20:01:14 <krinn> only oracle can be seen as dolphin for the adobe crown 20:05:52 *** TWerkhoven [~TWerkhove@cpc10-linl9-2-0-cust80.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:06:13 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.202.164] has joined #openttd 20:08:47 *** Devroush367 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:09:53 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i'm staying away from adobe software 20:11:29 *** TWerkhoven [~TWerkhove@cpc10-linl9-2-0-cust80.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:13:54 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:23 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 20:17:12 *** krinn [~krinn@76.54.71.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: going to kill some stroggs] 20:20:40 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:23:27 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 20:28:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6B78F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:29:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B1AE.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:35 <^Spike^> ...... 20:29:41 <^Spike^> Eddi|zuHause what's borked? 20:29:44 <^Spike^> what did i miss? 20:30:14 <Eddi|zuHause> ^Spike^: George has a problem. not sure what 20:30:24 <^Spike^> already see pm is on it aswell.... 20:30:47 <^Spike^> and well.. for Ammler i'll just leave that for now.... have to work with what i got... 20:45:48 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 20:59:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18175.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:05 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:10:05 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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