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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 01:49:37 *** UnnamedUser [~UnnamedUs@173.158.51.176] has joined #openttd 01:49:44 <UnnamedUser> Hi 01:49:52 *** UnnamedUser is now known as MysticalBurrito 01:50:24 *** MysticalBurrito is now known as TheMysticalBurrito 02:08:19 *** TheMysticalBurrito [~UnnamedUs@173.158.51.176] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 02:10:14 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:25:12 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:31:49 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 02:32:56 *** fjb is now known as Guest1126 02:32:57 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:33:30 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:34:15 *** Guest1126 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:43:02 *** kais58_ is now known as kais58|AFK 02:45:10 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:54:07 *** xDraKx [~bad45fb4@redenorte.net] has joined #openttd 02:55:17 <xDraKx> Can someone tell me a great and HARD AI BOT opponents to play against? 03:02:12 <xDraKx> Can someone tell me a great and HARD AI BOT opponents to play against? 03:32:52 *** xDraKx [~bad45fb4@redenorte.net] has quit [Quit: (( WebIRC Gratuito www.webirc.com.br )) (EOF)] 03:45:26 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.18.104.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 04:23:12 *** montalvo [~montalvo@macbook60.icrar.org] has joined #openttd 04:24:52 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-150-25-188.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 04:25:55 <George> Impotant question. 04:25:55 <George> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5669 04:25:55 <George> Please help! 04:37:16 *** Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@0001b11e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Wuzzy] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD5CEE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD42EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:00:35 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-251-190.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:04:05 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-251-190.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 05:16:25 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-251-190.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:25:05 *** ST2 [~ST2@188.250.229.129] has joined #openttd 05:28:00 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.115.191.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:28:13 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@154.20.133.76] has joined #openttd 05:32:54 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.133.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:33:09 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 05:47:22 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.18.104.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:49:54 *** montalvo is now known as Stranger 06:09:55 *** Stranger is now known as montalvo 06:10:46 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.133.76] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 06:30:17 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 06:46:03 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 06:46:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdf54.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 06:48:51 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 06:52:51 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:01:53 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 07:03:29 <Xaroth|Work> George: that's hardly a bug report 07:13:34 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:56:18 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-057-026.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 08:08:35 <V453000> frosch123: unicorns ride rainbows, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqgRG7eIMv4 08:11:55 <frosch123> hmm, i should listen to some metal today 08:14:58 <V453000> btw, pm: SmatZ not coming, he is on holiday near sea, returns tonight, needs to prepare for new job on monday 08:15:03 <V453000> so :( 08:15:08 <V453000> frosch123: everyday 08:16:48 <__ln__> "Hier nicht aussteigen" "here not get out" 08:17:56 <NGC3982> :( 08:18:20 <V453000> wat 08:18:56 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 08:23:19 <NGC3982> Shut up, Wesley. 08:23:45 <NGC3982> This Rasperry Pi project did not end up as cheap as one thought. 08:24:56 <NGC3982> Finding out that composite video was broken, so i had to buy a HDMI>VGA converter, and with that a new 5V power supply, and with that a new chassie, and with that everything else. 08:33:28 *** Aristide [~quassel@ip-59.net-81-220-245.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #openttd 08:46:52 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58_ 08:52:31 *** montalvo [~montalvo@macbook60.icrar.org] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 09:02:28 <Xaroth|Work> wheaaaaatooooooon 09:11:20 <MNIM> Khaaaaaaaaaaaan 09:15:02 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-150-25-188.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:16:13 <NGC3982> Mm. Cumbertomato did a great Khan. 09:16:24 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:16:27 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:41:30 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 09:42:05 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, sherlock is cool 09:42:49 <planetmaker> bah, that sucks, V453000 :-( 09:53:30 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:19:00 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:19:57 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22:55 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:23:44 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:30:46 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 10:54:43 * __ln__ is eating a meal in Wolfenbuettel 10:58:44 <Eddi|zuHause> my condolences 10:59:02 <planetmaker> wolfenbÃŒttel is nice really 10:59:18 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never been there, actually :) 10:59:21 <planetmaker> will you or did you see the library there, __ln__ ? 10:59:35 <planetmaker> with the evengelium of Henry the Lion? 10:59:59 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: anything in particular i should bring? i'm about to go shopping now 11:04:06 <planetmaker> insulation matrace and sleeping bag. If you feel like bringing something to eat, like making a salad or cake, it's your choice, just tell me what 11:04:32 *** Aristide [~quassel@ip-59.net-81-220-245.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:51 <planetmaker> if you can make a salat yourself, that likely would be more delicious than bought ones. 11:07:06 <planetmaker> I won't manage to make salads for all, I think 11:07:34 <V453000> spartans, tonight we dine beer 11:07:35 <V453000> no? :P 11:07:39 <V453000> salad, duh :P 11:07:39 <planetmaker> :-) 11:07:53 <planetmaker> well... salat. not letuce 11:08:10 <planetmaker> though salat can include latuce ;-) 11:08:27 <V453000> POINT IS: it generally does not include beer 11:08:41 <planetmaker> :-) 11:09:34 <__ln__> pm, didn't see a lbrary yet, maybe i should 11:09:42 <planetmaker> yes :-) 11:09:53 <planetmaker> it's not big. it's also downtown. and worth the visit 11:17:54 <V453000> you cannot drink a library ... 11:18:15 <V453000> (I think) 11:18:43 <__ln__> is it Herzog August Bibliothek? 11:19:11 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i'll try a potato salad, then. just need to figure out a transportation and cooling method... 11:19:38 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 11:20:20 <V453000> how about I bring beer, say, 80 bottles? 11:20:23 <V453000> less? 11:20:24 <V453000> more? 11:21:09 <Eddi|zuHause> 80? sounds a bit much... assuming you're not the only one bringing beer :)# 11:21:55 <V453000> k 79 11:22:13 <V453000> anyway Eddi I will come by a big car sooo if you want like an unicorn, we can take it too 11:23:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't assume it is refrigerated, though :p 11:24:12 <V453000> the car? iz 11:24:19 <V453000> unicorn? dunno what you got :D 11:24:59 <planetmaker> V453000, sounds alright to me. 80 bottles... for 14(?) people... maybe not everyone has Czech drinking stamina :D 11:25:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fresh out of unicorns, i'm afraid 11:25:15 <V453000> hmf, okay ... 40 11:25:17 <planetmaker> we'll have unicorns at the party, no doubt 11:25:23 <planetmaker> make it 60 :D 11:25:25 <planetmaker> it's a long night 11:25:26 <V453000> deal 11:25:41 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 11:26:32 <Eddi|zuHause> "Britain's new internet filtering program will be provided by Huawei (China)" 11:28:43 <Alberth> sounds like a splendid idea :p 11:28:56 <Rubidium> planetmaker: at most 13 drinking beer ;) 11:31:27 <peter1139> Well they have experience of censorship... 11:32:22 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:47:03 * Alberth will also not drink beer 12:08:04 *** Tom_Soft [~id@74-115-3-63.anchorfree.com] has joined #openttd 12:08:23 *** Tom_Soft [~id@74-115-3-63.anchorfree.com] has quit [] 12:08:39 *** Tom_Soft [~id@74-115-3-63.anchorfree.com] has joined #openttd 12:09:17 *** Tom_Soft [~id@74-115-3-63.anchorfree.com] has quit [] 12:11:08 <frosch123> bye, see you tomorrow :) 12:11:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdf54.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 12:21:32 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.115.191.171] has joined #openttd 12:35:09 <fjb> Moin. 12:36:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:36:41 <fjb> At most 12 drinking beer. ;) 12:37:04 <V453000> do you drink pure ethanol or 12:38:11 <fjb> Or. 12:38:17 <Rubidium> I doubt anyone drinks pure ethanol ;) 12:38:40 <V453000> maybe not anybody in dutchylands, here some people do 12:38:43 <V453000> rare cases 12:38:56 <fjb> When does it begin tomorrow? 12:39:41 <Rubidium> V453000: more in the sense that I reckon it's impossible to create pure ware (pure as in without impurities) 12:40:13 <V453000> well ye :P 12:40:16 <planetmaker> fjb, I said like 15h or so 12:40:23 <planetmaker> but anytime in the afternoon will be fine 12:40:33 <fjb> Ok. 12:40:34 <planetmaker> I just came back from the butcher... I hope that I got enough :D 12:41:04 <fjb> We can get more tomorrow, if it isn't. :) 12:41:20 <Rubidium> so... should I buy stroopwafels? 12:41:24 <V453000> if you aint got at least 2 whole cows and a whole unicorn, then it clearly isnt enough :P could reduce the beef amount, but the rest ... 12:41:31 <planetmaker> oh :-) stroopwafels and vanilla fla 12:41:48 <Xaroth|Work> chocoladehagelslag? 12:42:01 <planetmaker> if you want it for breakfast or on ice cream... then that, too 12:42:02 <Rubidium> don't think I can manage keeping vanilla vla refridgerated for long enough 12:42:11 <planetmaker> true. bad time of the year 12:42:30 <V453000> hence beer 12:42:35 <Xaroth|Work> Rubidium: koelbox should handle it for a couple of hours? 12:42:45 <V453000> see, it all fits together, beer is a solution to everything 12:42:54 <planetmaker> I think I got like 2 pieces of meat per person and a sausage... will that suffice? 12:43:01 <Rubidium> Xaroth|Work: don't have one, and since I'm going by train for a bit first... it's a bit of a hassle 12:43:03 <V453000> I am pretty sure it should pm :) 12:43:15 <planetmaker> oh, and... how is it called? "SpieÃ" 12:43:18 <Xaroth|Work> Rubidium: yeh, that doesn't work :P 12:43:19 <Rubidium> planetmaker: if it isn't a French sausage, then I guess it's enough 12:43:26 <V453000> hm I will get a 1kg party mix of salty stuff 12:43:36 <planetmaker> I already got a dip. 12:43:44 <V453000> salty stuff = dip? 12:43:45 <planetmaker> The woman at the butcher's knows how to sell stuff :D 12:43:54 <planetmaker> no. dip goes with salty stuff :-) 12:44:00 <planetmaker> so it's perfect 12:44:18 <V453000> AH I SEE 12:44:20 <V453000> dip = beer 12:44:28 <V453000> so obvious 12:44:37 <planetmaker> well... no. it's creamy pasty... you dip in the salty stuff there 12:44:39 <planetmaker> thus dip 12:44:43 <V453000> I see 12:44:51 <V453000> we dont use that civilized things here :P 12:44:51 <Prof_Frink> You can't dip stuff in a pasty. 12:44:54 <Rubidium> unless TrueBrain has a koelbox... and buys the stuff that needs to be refridgerated 12:45:41 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:46:03 <Alberth> V453000: so no need to bring beer, we have dip already :p 12:46:13 <planetmaker> :-P 12:46:22 <V453000> Alberth: dip sounds risky though, better safe than sober 12:46:31 <planetmaker> ok... but if V brings so much beer, I should reduce the amount to buy that from my list 12:46:35 <Alberth> :D 12:46:50 <fjb> We need a real world pipeline grf for the vla. 12:46:58 <planetmaker> loool! Indeed 12:48:00 <planetmaker> so, will we all also play a joint session of OpenTTD when we're here? 12:48:26 * fjb doesn't habe a note book. :( 12:48:54 * Alberth only has paper note books :( 12:49:00 <planetmaker> :-( 12:49:06 <fjb> I have only an Android tablet. And OpenTTD fpr Android is not really playable. 12:49:12 * V453000 is bringing notebook 12:49:30 <V453000> so pm obtain a pc for everyone :D 12:49:34 <V453000> new quest 12:49:37 <planetmaker> I've two computers which work... my desktop and my notebook... ;-) 12:49:54 <V453000> they can hotseat, iz k 12:50:31 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:33 <V453000> openttd hotseat is that multiple people share one pc, one plays, rest drinks 12:51:15 <planetmaker> that definitely works fine 12:51:16 <V453000> the drinking crew must consume at least the same amount as the monthly production of the highest producing secondary, or else! 12:51:46 <planetmaker> I kinda do that stuff with a friend of mine semi-regularily. Not OpenTTD, though. But definitely one playing, both drinking ;-) 12:51:48 <V453000> those are the rules, cant explain that 12:51:55 <V453000> yeah :) 12:52:29 <fjb> You shout 12:52:33 <fjb> ups 12:52:33 <V453000> we usually do that with some starcraft towerdefense or something 12:52:44 <planetmaker> fjb, sure ;-) 12:52:46 <fjb> You should drink much, it is hot out there. 12:53:29 <V453000> exactly, also beer doesnt have much vitamins in it so you have to drink a lot of it to compensate 12:53:47 <fjb> Not beer... 12:53:53 <V453000> that doesnt make sense 12:55:45 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 13:00:46 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:03:15 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:03:36 *** Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@0001b11e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:07:35 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-38-224.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:07:46 <LordAro> heyo 13:08:21 <Alberth> hi hi 13:11:25 *** fjb is now known as Guest1173 13:11:27 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:11:47 <LordAro> hmm, do i need a separate /boot partition? (if so, why?) 13:13:04 <Alberth> not really needed, I made one because at one time, the OS required ext3 for the boot partition, and ext4 for / 13:14:14 <LordAro> ext4 is the 'best', right? 13:15:25 *** Guest1173 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:58 <Alberth> I think there are newer file systems, but tbh I don't care much, as I don't depend much on disk access speed anyway 13:17:37 <Rubidium> hell no, ReiserFS is best! ;) 13:17:44 <Xaroth|Work> there are more oppinions about which fs is best, than there are fs' 13:18:28 <fjb> No zfs ist best. :P 13:20:07 <LordAro> fine, i'll go with ext4 :P 13:21:08 <LordAro> how about /swap? i've read that it should be 2*(size of RAM), but is this still valid today when i have 8GB RAM? 13:23:21 <Xaroth|Work> I usually do some swap, as I hate having to deal with OOM-killed processes 13:23:29 <Xaroth|Work> but I usually cap it at 5g 13:24:22 <LordAro> that's what i've got currently 13:24:23 <Rubidium> I think that depends whether you want to suspend-to-disk; IIRC (not 100% sure), that saves RAM into swap 13:24:39 <LordAro> do i want to? :L 13:29:37 <Alberth> LordAro: you want enough swap to move unused application data out of memory, more is quite useless. Executing programs stored at swap is so slow, it's not worth waiting for. 13:30:30 <LordAro> well, i've never seen my swap being used (currently at 5GB) so that's enough? 13:31:24 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:08 <Alberth> so you need to invent some program that's big enough to start using swap :p 13:34:11 <Pinkbeast> LordAro: 2*RAM is folklore. 13:34:55 <Pinkbeast> LordAro: _many_ years ago, swap had to be = RAM on Linux. Various versions of this rule have mutated and floated around since. 13:35:10 <Pinkbeast> LordAro: On the face of it now, for a given projected load, more memory implies less swap. 13:50:46 <V453000> http://www.explosm.net/comics/3089/ ... ehmmm ... fuck linux? :P 13:52:26 <V453000> or is that joke even a fedora reference? :d 13:56:19 <Pinkbeast> Hipsters and fedoras shurely 14:03:57 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.wacken.com/typo3temp/pics/7e353d490a.jpg 14:04:11 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 14:15:49 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 14:17:40 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:32:26 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:37:51 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:44:41 *** amiller [~amiller@pool-96-255-47-217.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:57:52 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:11:33 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 15:14:20 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:38 <peter1139> how the hell does freeciv manage to switch from square to hex grid... during game... 15:15:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DD41.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:15:47 *** strohalm [~smoofi@cpe-0018f841fb5c.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:17:01 <Alberth> hex grid is just a square grid with the even columns moved 1/2 square down? :) 15:19:09 *** strohalm [~smoofi@cpe-0018f841fb5c.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:09 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:46 <peter1139> it's more the movement restrictions i'm thinking of 15:20:53 <peter1139> it seems to get around that by allowing you to move along an edge between 2 tiles 15:22:12 <Eddi|zuHause> hex grid is just defining which tiles are adjacent? 15:35:55 <heffer> planetmaker: weekend trip? :D 15:37:40 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.133.76] has joined #openttd 15:41:54 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:43:26 *** amiller [~amiller@pool-96-255-47-217.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A182E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:00:26 <Eddi|zuHause> heffer: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=66728 16:01:56 <heffer> ah i see. i'm in stuttgart atm unfortunately 16:03:09 <peter1139> seems close enough 16:04:55 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@g226182044.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:41 <__ln__> tomorrow's forecast is now 36 degrees 16:05:51 <peter1139> that's 1/10th of a circle 16:06:13 <__ln__> indeed 16:06:29 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i have some sort of a laptop, but it's not "gaming optimized" 16:06:54 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:07:01 <peter1139> i bet it runs openttd fine 16:07:12 <Eddi|zuHause> it's rather a work laptop and should probably not run games of any kind 16:07:30 <peter1139> my work laptop is about 10 years old now 16:07:37 <__ln__> what about simulations 16:07:43 <peter1139> so not much cop for games. or java. or... anything really. 16:08:30 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure about mine. but it has vista on it 16:09:17 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 16:12:44 <planetmaker> heffer, that's close. We'll have attendance from Montreal :-) 16:13:00 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:13 <planetmaker> and the forecast got better. Chance for rain / thunderstorm seems to have gone. But then... it's raining now :-) 16:13:15 <heffer> planetmaker: unfortunately i have other plans this weekend which is why i drove from leverkusen to stuttgart in the first place :D 16:14:03 <__ln__> pm, do you live at the same address as before? 16:14:09 <heffer> if i knew earlier i might have come :D 16:14:25 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:14:48 <planetmaker> __ln__, yes 16:15:39 <__ln__> ok, good 16:15:52 <planetmaker> see private message 16:16:09 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:18:28 <__ln__> thanks 16:21:26 *** amiller [~amiller@129-2-129-154.wireless.umd.edu] has joined #openttd 16:22:23 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 16:32:54 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35:19 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:35:57 *** xDraKx [~bad45fb4@redenorte.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:08 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 16:40:04 <xDraKx> Can I Enable the Original AI on openttd? 16:41:29 <Rubidium> no 16:43:02 <Eddi|zuHause> xDraKx: "Simple AI" tries to mimic the original AI as good as it can 16:43:08 <xDraKx> the AIs to download on download content have on almost like the original ??? 16:43:21 <xDraKx> humnmn 16:44:15 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:45:56 <xDraKx> i have tested some but all just bought lots and lots of buses trucks and dont be cool like the original ehehe 16:48:15 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:48:18 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:55:43 <xDraKx> Simple AI is like the original ai? 16:56:04 <xDraKx> the make everything? trains airplanes, boats, trucks buses etc ??? 16:57:02 <Alberth> afaik it aims to do that, how much it succeeded, I don't know 16:57:58 <Alberth> http://wiki.openttd.org/Comparison_of_AIs may be useful 17:07:34 <xDraKx> have a openttd version with ai enabled? the Original AI 17:09:11 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 17:09:29 <alluke> tomorrowlaaaaand <3 17:10:09 <TrueBrain> sometimes it seems they allow all kinds of weirdos on the internet 17:10:38 <alluke> there should be iq and personality tests before you can buy internet connection 17:11:04 <planetmaker> xDraKx, the "original AI" would simply sit and do nothing. Except spending money on pointless terraforming. Is that what you want? 17:13:23 <xDraKx> No but i test example Nocab, this AI just bought lots and lots of trucks buses, example 30 trucks in a small road. 17:13:39 <planetmaker> and it's successful. Quite successful 17:13:44 <planetmaker> Did you beat it moneywise? 17:17:00 <xDraKx> y sure 17:18:14 <Alberth> time to make your own AI :) 17:18:30 <xDraKx> huahauaha 17:18:34 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:18:47 <xDraKx> nocab today is the most complete ai? or have other? 17:19:03 <planetmaker> did you look at the link provided to you by Alberth ? 17:21:37 <xDraKx> y nocab is the only one with all "yes" ehehe 17:21:47 <xDraKx> but is this really the best today? 17:21:50 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:22:00 <Alberth> for some definition of "best", yes 17:22:20 <Alberth> for some other definition of "best", probably no 17:22:58 <planetmaker> ^^ that 17:26:54 <Alberth> trying to explain there are several notions of "the same" is much more fun ;) 17:38:17 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 17:45:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25628 trunk/src/lang/faroese.txt (2013-07-26 17:45:08 UTC) 17:45:17 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:18 <DorpsGek> faroese - 2 changes by karihj 17:53:34 <planetmaker> ha, it paid off that I gave him translation rights today ;-) 18:02:10 <peter1139> http://i.imgur.com/m3eSMjd.jpg 18:04:47 <fjb> What is that? :-) 18:26:29 <Xaroth|Work> http://i.imgur.com/clRGlS0.jpg 18:29:24 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has joined #openttd 18:31:33 <LordAro> hmm, ksp or minecraft? 18:32:48 <Xaroth|Work> meh @ minecraft 18:32:50 <Eddi|zuHause> "Authorities in eastern Turkey have successfully determined a falcon to be an actual falcon, not a spy of Israel" 18:44:05 *** xDraKx [~bad45fb4@redenorte.net] has quit [Quit: (( WebIRC Gratuito www.webirc.com.br ))] 18:44:46 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:56:14 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has joined #openttd 19:00:25 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:05:59 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:54 <fjb> Xaroth|Work: ;-) 19:14:09 <Eddi|zuHause> <LordAro> how about /swap? i've read that it should be 2*(size of RAM), but is this still valid today when i have 8GB RAM? <-- when i went from 1GB RAM + 2GB swap to 4GB RAM i thought "i guess i don't need swap now", and got immediately an OOM, with a program that worked perfectly fine before... 19:14:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i now went to 12GB RAM, that seems to be enough for now :) 19:15:14 <Eddi|zuHause> but i hate swap partitions... too inflexible 19:15:41 <Eddi|zuHause> so i added and removed swapfiles as needed instead 19:16:22 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:16:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 19:16:59 <peter1139> Swap: 9.3G 0B 9.3G 19:17:01 <peter1139> yeah 19:17:17 <Eddi|zuHause> but the "2*RAM" thing is really just a basic figure that has proven useful during a mostly moores-law-based development, it has no real foundation 19:17:20 <peter1139> swap's a on spare drive with no load, so... 19:18:39 <Eddi|zuHause> while (have OOM problems) add_swap(); 19:19:43 <Rubidium> the only OOM issues I had was OOM-killer not reacting quickly enough 19:20:34 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, the OOM killer never actually kicked in, it was just sitting there for hours (trying to swap? even without any swap?) never killing anything and impossible to do input 19:20:36 <Rubidium> i.e. an application that goes effectively rogue first trashes caches, then pushes other applications into swap (making the computer near unresponsive) before it's eventually OOM killed 19:21:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A182E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:22:19 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-40-118.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:22:24 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:07 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has joined #openttd 19:45:26 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:50 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:22:26 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:28:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6C044.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:30:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DD41.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:55 *** amiller [~amiller@129-2-129-154.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:47:33 *** imachine_ [~imachine@2a00:dcc0:eda:3754:216:3cff:fe01:8973] has joined #openttd 20:47:36 <imachine_> hello 20:47:50 <imachine_> my dedicated server keeps removing data from [newgrf] section in config file 20:48:09 <imachine_> I have the newgrf's tar files in /usr/local/share/openttd/newgrf/ 20:48:20 <imachine_> I know the newgrf's are compatible. 20:48:33 <imachine_> I run my server with openttd -D -c /usr/local/etc/openttd.cfg 20:48:40 <imachine_> (1.3.1) any ideas? 20:49:02 <planetmaker> does the server have actually write access to the quoted dir? 20:49:19 <imachine_> /usr/local/bin/openttd -c /usr/local/etc/openttd.cfg -s null -m null -v null -b null -D -f this is the actual way I run it. 20:49:24 <imachine_> planetmaker, it should, I run it as root. 20:49:31 <planetmaker> !!!! 20:49:32 <imachine_> (maybe that's not so smart) 20:49:38 <planetmaker> definitely not smart 20:49:54 <imachine_> planetmaker, shouldn't it drop privileges or smth? I run it with an 'rc' script. 20:50:08 <imachine_> planetmaker, does openttd support privilege dropping on itself? 20:50:18 <planetmaker> dunno what an 'rc' script is, but it keeps the priviliges of the user it is started from 20:50:46 <imachine_> anything residing in /etc/rc.d or /etc/init.d could be an rc script. 20:51:02 <imachine_> (or, in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/, in this case) 20:51:05 <planetmaker> ah, right 20:51:44 <imachine_> anyway, yeah. that's one thing. the privileges. another is that it just doesn't work with newgrfs. 20:51:47 <imachine_> any ideas? 20:51:56 <planetmaker> I'd suggest: start it as a normal user. Put the relevant config file in ~/.openttd/openttd.cfg 20:52:22 <planetmaker> and: start openttd only after you edited the file. It will otherwise overwrite any changes you made upon exit 20:52:30 <imachine_> oh, ok. 20:52:32 <imachine_> cool. 20:52:35 <imachine_> that makes sense ;-) 20:52:56 <planetmaker> never run applications as root... unless you administer your system 20:53:06 <planetmaker> by means of that application 20:53:33 <planetmaker> also... openttd does not even need installing. Thus if you download openttd, unzip it in a folder like ~/ottd-server 20:53:45 <planetmaker> you can unzip the version you want to use there. And all will be fine 20:54:13 <planetmaker> you can then simply start ~/ottd-server/openttd and it will use the config file from ~/.openttd/openttd.cfg 20:54:44 <planetmaker> and all content you might have in ~/.openttd/baseset ~/.openttd/content_download/* ~/.openttd/newgrf etc 20:55:16 *** kais58__ [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:55:26 <planetmaker> if you plan to run *several* servers. Then place the cfg next to the binary 20:55:52 <planetmaker> and possibly symlink the content folders to the sub-folders in ~/.openttd 20:56:26 <planetmaker> lrwxrwxrwx 1 ottdc users 37 Nov 9 2012 content_download -> /home/ottdc/.openttd/content_download 20:56:58 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:58:46 <imachine_> planetmaker, cheers man, that's extensive. 20:58:56 <imachine_> I build my own openttd. 20:59:05 <planetmaker> build it from svn 20:59:08 <imachine_> and just realized it ran as root as we spoke. 20:59:16 <imachine_> nah, I want 1.3.1 for compatibility. 20:59:22 <imachine_> I like binary updates. 20:59:23 <imachine_> :-) 20:59:34 <planetmaker> eh... ok, so you don't build it :-) 20:59:41 <LordAro> planetmaker: the -c option should work though, right? 20:59:45 <planetmaker> I thought build = compile :-) 20:59:50 <imachine_> I like binary updates for my desktop, and build from ports on my server. 21:00:05 <planetmaker> yes, but use svn to build the binary on the server 21:00:14 <imachine_> and to keep them in line compatible, I want 1.3.1 on both sides. 21:00:14 <planetmaker> or you might not enjoy it too much. Also easier update 21:00:16 <imachine_> ports has 1.3.1 21:00:24 <planetmaker> ports? macports? 21:00:26 <planetmaker> you don't need that 21:00:27 <imachine_> binary on openttd is 1.3.1 21:00:31 <imachine_> planetmaker, freebsd ports. 21:01:08 <planetmaker> 1.3.1 is current. Until... this weekend :D 21:01:16 <LordAro> :O 21:01:22 <fjb> OpenTTD easily compiles on FreeBSD without a port. 21:01:36 <imachine_> yepp, and untill the maintainer updates the freebsd port, that's what I plan on running. 21:01:54 <planetmaker> imachine_, yes... just svn checkout. And compile it. should work like a charm 21:02:00 <imachine_> thanks for the help. come join the IMC HardCore Tycoon Clash server ;) 21:02:09 <imachine_> laters. 21:02:12 <planetmaker> laters 21:02:15 * imachine_ & 21:02:16 *** imachine_ [~imachine@2a00:dcc0:eda:3754:216:3cff:fe01:8973] has left #openttd [] 21:02:35 <LordAro> "/me &" ? :L 21:02:48 <planetmaker> :-) 21:03:52 <LordAro> so are you going to press the 'release' button all together? :) 21:04:04 <glx> @planetmaker> 1.3.1 is current. Until... this weekend :D <-- spoiler 21:05:11 <planetmaker> bad me :-) 21:05:27 <fjb> Nobody did read it. 21:06:01 <planetmaker> most people who care about the exact date will be here :D 21:06:15 *** kais58__ is now known as kais58|AFK 21:06:17 <fjb> :) 21:06:39 <planetmaker> and I'm fine with spoiling it for LordAro this one time :D 21:06:47 <LordAro> D: 21:06:49 <LordAro> :p 21:06:58 * fjb should install OpenTTD on the tablet. 21:07:15 <planetmaker> yes 21:07:25 * LordAro would've attended, but Germany is a bit far for me :( 21:07:30 <planetmaker> maybe I should install an android VM 21:07:44 <planetmaker> LordAro, is it? What about... people coming from Canada? 21:07:58 <planetmaker> I bet that's further 21:08:01 <LordAro> he has money :P 21:08:50 <planetmaker> dunno about sweden. Might be equally far :-) 21:09:02 <planetmaker> maybe not time-wise. dunno 21:09:19 <planetmaker> last time I went to England it cost me like 35⬠return for the flight 21:09:35 <LordAro> that sounds very cheap 21:09:38 <planetmaker> flight to Gatewick. Return from Birmingham 21:09:50 * LordAro never actually tried very hard :L 21:10:00 <planetmaker> travelling around by bus was also quite cheap 21:11:19 <planetmaker> ferry was like 100⬠last time I took that. iirc 21:11:31 <planetmaker> took considerably longer :-) 21:11:57 <LordAro> i've only ever gone via ferry to the mainland before 21:12:16 <LordAro> huh, only 2 or 3 times i think 21:12:24 <planetmaker> was from Hamburg to Dover, I think 21:16:55 <LordAro> language barrier is rather scary too :L 21:17:07 <planetmaker> lol 21:17:31 <fjb> Most people are speaking English here, sort of. 21:17:37 <planetmaker> that is just a very sad reason, LordAro 21:17:42 <Eddi|zuHause> wait, release? i thought we make 4k commits at the party... 21:18:44 <Xaroth|Work> only 4k? 21:19:03 <Xaroth|Work> I mean, we're at 25600 with 4400 you'll be hitting 30000 21:19:07 <Xaroth|Work> makes a better party :) 21:19:32 <planetmaker> strange math :D 21:19:34 <fjb> 4k are a lot of text. 21:19:42 <Eddi|zuHause> well the party is called 25+4k 21:20:17 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, I fear cets compile fails due to nml compile 21:20:22 <planetmaker> unless it doesn't 21:20:34 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: need eddi-nml 21:21:34 <fjb> Beach objects grf? Girls? 21:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause> fjb: if you can distinguish that at 1x4 pixels :p 21:22:20 <planetmaker> beach object grf exists... girls... hard to tell ^ 21:23:21 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: You could distinguish Lara Croft at that size. 21:23:49 <fjb> planetmaker: I just saw that grf in the list while installing OpenTTD on my tablet. 21:24:19 <planetmaker> :-) 21:24:28 <planetmaker> anyway. Good night. And see you tomorrow 21:24:42 <fjb> See you tomorrow. 21:24:54 <fjb> Good night, planetmaker. 21:49:38 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49:52 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has joined #openttd 21:51:32 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 21:51:46 <fjb> OpenTTD on Android become a lot better than the last time I tried it. 21:53:52 <V453000> I would prooobably shit a hedgehog before being satisfied with openttd without keyboard and mouse :) 21:54:17 <Eddi|zuHause> that's what god made USB for 21:54:44 <dihedral> cu you tomorrow :-) 21:54:46 <dihedral> night 21:54:58 <glx> need an adaptator to plug keyboard and mouse on a phone :) 21:55:17 <glx> though maybe bluetooth works too 21:56:32 <fjb> It should. 21:58:31 <Eddi|zuHause> a USB-Bluetooth adapter :p 21:59:43 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 22:06:24 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:07:38 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-38-224.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:10:03 <TWerkhoven> hmm 22:10:08 <TWerkhoven> i never tried that 22:26:57 <peter1139> bluetooth keyboards don't work quite right 22:38:07 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.18.104.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 22:39:11 *** Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@0001b11e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Wuzzy] 22:47:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A182E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:48:33 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:52:44 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has joined #openttd 22:57:28 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:36:42 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3A15.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:42:54 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has joined #openttd 23:43:41 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has quit [] 23:43:53 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 23:44:22 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> osmotic.oftc.net, resistance.oftc.net quits: HerzogDeXtEr1, TWerkhoven, Tulitomaatti, confound, ntx, peter1139, strohalm, gelignite, eQualizer, __ln__, (+14 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:44:51 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.195.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:31 *** Netsplit over, joins: confound, peter1139, gelignite, HerzogDeXtEr1, KritiK, +tokai|noir, TheMask96, Extrems, strohalm, Eddi|zuHause (+14 more) 23:49:30 *** kais58|A1K [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:51:10 *** kais58|AFK [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]