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00:01:23 <Supercheese> I think we use it in land areas, hectacres 00:01:50 <Supercheese> or some such 00:02:10 <SamanthaD> I wonder if the average Joe would prefer a 1.5GHz computer over a 2500MHz one 00:02:12 <Supercheese> Hectare, rather 00:02:43 <SamanthaD> I personally measure land area in "square chains" 00:08:20 <Supercheese> I don't get the station name generator at all 00:12:31 <Supercheese> it seems very hackish 00:12:46 *** Arkabzol [~Arkabzol@c-40cce555.018-390-73746f39.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13:49 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16:55 <Supercheese> of course, timezones mean devs are likely asleep 00:17:23 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has joined #openttd 00:26:28 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has joined #openttd 00:30:31 <Bad_Brett> what the hell is timezones? ;) 00:31:25 <Bad_Brett> sleep is overrated 00:35:05 <Bad_Brett> ugh... why am i doing this to myself? trying to align thousands of sprites 00:38:03 <Wolf01> 'night 00:38:08 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:40:03 *** DDR [~chatzilla@70.36.63.90] has joined #openttd 00:40:04 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-076-232.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 00:42:00 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 00:50:25 <Bad_Brett> though i must say, the extra angles really make the trains look better 01:16:46 *** DDR [~chatzilla@70.36.63.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:36 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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08:45:58 <V453000> D: 08:46:10 <Wolf01> I did, tomorrow I'll have some trekking on mountain :P 08:51:34 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-099-174.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:51:43 <peter1138> $query = "SELECT * FROM user_profile WHERE UserName='$_POST[UserName]' and Password='$_POST[Password]'" 08:51:46 <peter1138> nom 08:52:27 <TinoDidriksen> Mmm, injections... 08:53:01 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 08:54:22 <peter1138> at least 3 things wrong with that ;D 08:54:26 <planetmaker> hm.... mountain trecking. nice 08:54:36 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-099-174.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 08:56:01 <peter1138> TinoDidriksen, oh and if you follow the instructions of this code to set up the db, you'll end up with a user that has access to every single thing on the database server, not just its own database... fun :D 09:02:12 *** montalvo [~montalvo@macbook60.icrar.org] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 09:04:01 <dihedral> \o/ 09:23:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:25:27 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 09:30:00 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-51.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:30:34 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-51.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:32:12 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:34:32 <LordAro> oh good, an x server segfault 09:35:20 <LordAro> where would i report such a thing? 09:35:48 <LordAro> (here's the log, if that matters http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2517/ ) 09:37:51 <TinoDidriksen> It clearly says who to contact... 09:38:23 <LordAro> ...oh 09:38:33 <LordAro> i should actually read further than the backtrace 09:38:35 <LordAro> :L 09:40:24 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 09:49:16 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 10:14:04 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.59.233.118] has joined #openttd 10:15:47 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:48:41 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 10:50:13 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.203.62] has joined #openttd 10:50:47 <Aristide> Hi ! 10:51:05 <Aristide> I must test busline 11 <3 11:07:28 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.203.62] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:18:55 *** Twofish [~Thorbjorn@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:38 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.126] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:07 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 12:04:51 *** torkelG [~oftc-webi@38.84-234-168.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 12:06:44 <torkelG> Hello, im trying to compile and run version 1.3.2 server for my raspberry pi, ive managed to compile it but now it complains about graphics set, why would the server need that, and how do i get it? 12:08:03 <torkelG> Output: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aUrB5rCB 12:08:32 *** montalvo [~montalvo@101.166.155.98] has joined #openttd 12:11:17 <planetmaker> torkelG, the "graphics set" also contains information for terrain generation 12:12:25 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:12:26 <torkelG> Ok, i see, I downloaded a .zip file, readme's and wiki pages say to put it in different places 12:12:26 <planetmaker> you simply download it. For instance from http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/ 12:12:49 <planetmaker> yeah. The place depends. On your OS. Readme, section 4.2 :-) 12:13:04 <planetmaker> ~/.openttd/baseset 12:13:24 <V453000> what info about terrain generation is that? :o 12:13:54 <planetmaker> V453000, the old terrain generator. It has "height maps", placed in the base set file 12:14:36 <V453000> o_O 12:14:48 <torkelG> ok, ~/.openttd/baseset/ the zip file or the unzipped files? 12:14:57 <planetmaker> take a guess, torkelG :-) 12:15:12 <torkelG> ... 12:15:12 <V453000> does that mean you could get different maps generated with different base sets? if you use original map generator that is 12:15:14 <torkelG> ok 12:15:45 <planetmaker> V453000, yes. Iff the different basesets contained different sprites for that part, yes. I think I made sure they don#t 12:15:49 <torkelG> unzipped it is 12:15:53 <planetmaker> of course :-) 12:15:56 <torkelG> Thanks 12:16:08 <V453000> thats qutie interesting 12:16:26 <torkelG> First time ive compiled anything for ARM 12:16:52 <planetmaker> V453000, but it's not a simple height map translated 1:1. 12:17:07 <V453000> that I expected 12:17:20 <planetmaker> there's some kind of processing involved... and applying the same thing at different scales / spacial frequencies 12:17:25 <V453000> would need kind of many heightmaps that way :D 12:17:27 <V453000> right 12:17:27 <planetmaker> *spatial 12:17:44 <planetmaker> and randomness, too :-) 12:17:51 <V453000> yez 12:18:26 <torkelG> could someone please test my server from the "outside" torkelatge.net:3739 Thanks 12:18:46 <planetmaker> torkelG, I fear that a raspberryPi has less power than some clients :-) 12:18:54 <torkelG> obs, torkelatge.net:3979* 12:19:07 <planetmaker> torkelG, check on http://servers.openttd.org 12:19:38 <planetmaker> if it appears in short time (few minutes at most), it's publicly reachable 12:19:53 <planetmaker> you might need to adjust your openttd.cfg and/or your router settings, if not 12:20:30 <torkelG> ah, nice 12:20:30 <torkelG> Ok, thanks for helping me, Have a nice day 12:20:30 *** torkelG [~oftc-webi@38.84-234-168.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:22:30 <planetmaker> that was quick :-9 12:23:31 *** tst [~id@204.14.77.34] has joined #openttd 12:25:33 *** tst [~id@204.14.77.34] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26:41 *** Tom_Soft [~id@37.140.99.39] has joined #openttd 12:36:44 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 12:44:13 *** Pecio [~fgh@cjg242.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 12:59:28 <LordAro> D: cinnamon is leaking memory :( 13:05:13 <planetmaker> spicy 13:06:11 <Malinux-> hm, is there a new grf or so, who makes me not spending too much time on openttd? :P 13:06:25 <Xaroth|Work> no, that's built-in 13:07:02 <planetmaker> use a game script. then you can play more games :-P 13:07:07 <planetmaker> like NoCarGoal 13:07:21 <planetmaker> Or SiliconValley 13:07:53 <V453000> I dont think that directly reduces teh amount of time you spend playing :P 13:08:21 <planetmaker> I didn't say that ;-) 13:08:25 <planetmaker> (for good reason :P) 13:08:44 <planetmaker> just "more games" ;-) 13:09:18 <V453000> I prefer less games :) 13:10:04 <planetmaker> I think it depends :-) 13:29:23 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 13:31:45 *** Kjetil [kjetil@161.81-166-7.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:35:58 *** Kjetil [kjetil@161.81-166-7.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 13:45:41 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:33 <Malinux-> Xaroth|Work: okey :) 13:58:46 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.59.233.118] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59:22 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.59.233.118] has joined #openttd 14:10:20 <TWerkhoven> Xaroth|Work: self._connection = self._connection.copy() 14:10:47 <TWerkhoven> am i right in assuming that that overwrites the object with a fresh copy of itself, retaining all configure bits from the original? 14:10:53 <Xaroth|Work> yep 14:11:02 <Xaroth|Work> the copy function also transfers your event hooks 14:11:06 <Xaroth|Work> so you don't have to re-do that 14:11:10 <TWerkhoven> cool 14:11:16 * Xaroth|Work lazy :P 14:11:23 <TWerkhoven> < attempting multi-server 14:11:50 <TWerkhoven> whilst the plugin is still small enough to change easily 14:12:08 <Xaroth|Work> you might want to copy the epoll stuff to your own function then 14:12:17 <Xaroth|Work> instead of polling each connection separately 14:12:45 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:13:14 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 14:13:18 <Xaroth|Work> from libottdadmin2.trackingclient import poll, POLLIN, POLLOUT, POLLERR, POLLHUP, POLLPRI, POLL_MOD 14:13:37 <Xaroth|Work> then note what the trackingclient's __init_poll__, __deinit_poll__ and poll do 14:14:16 <Xaroth|Work> might be useful to keep a dict of fileno()'s with their respective object 14:14:20 <TWerkhoven> and change it so it polls each active connection? 14:14:30 <Xaroth|Work> well you register each active connection 14:14:35 <Xaroth|Work> and de-register each disconnected one 14:14:44 <Xaroth|Work> so you poll multiple connections through 1 function 14:15:09 <Xaroth|Work> the trackingclient's own poll method only registers itself 14:16:25 <TWerkhoven> so i'd have to start polling active connections from the start, possibly before any connection is connected, or do i check if there is a registered connection any time i connect to ottd? 14:19:48 <TWerkhoven> i assume i should integrate the polling stuff in the main plugin body instead of soapclient, right? 14:21:19 <Xaroth|Work> in the threaded bit 14:21:35 <Xaroth|Work> so.. probably yes 14:57:21 *** amiller [~amiller@c-69-255-193-198.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:02:53 *** Twofish [~Thorbjorn@46.228.54.111] has joined #openttd 15:02:55 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-50dd93-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07:18 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:12:56 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-50dd93-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:35:37 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:35:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:37:28 <Alberth> moin 15:38:14 <maddy_> hi 15:39:22 <LordAro> hai Alberth 15:40:21 <LordAro> why you no in #freerct ? 15:40:44 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.59.233.118] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC is updating to v1.9.2 Beta Build (160813-1) 64 Bit] 15:41:23 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.59.233.118] has joined #openttd 15:42:08 <Alberth> :o 15:42:29 <LordAro> i'm all lonely :( 15:42:34 <Alberth> I was missing a channel, looked through the list twice, and could not find the missing entry 15:43:02 <Alberth> done, you are now less lonely :) 15:43:18 <LordAro> ayayz 15:58:11 *** amiller [~amiller@216-15-29-79.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #openttd 16:00:29 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 16:09:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AA7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:13:16 <Bad_Brett> should i attend a party or code newgrf's? that's the question 16:14:01 <Alberth> how's coding newgrfs not a party? :) 16:15:42 <maddy_> do both, go to the party and get some hot girls to come home with you, then code newgrfs with them 16:17:07 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-179-100-196.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:18:59 <Bad_Brett> openttd after party! 16:19:03 <Bad_Brett> not bad, not bad at all 16:21:39 *** frodus [~frodus_de@static243-243-8.mimer.net] has joined #openttd 16:24:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AA7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:24:18 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-179-100-196.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:28:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF99.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:29:13 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@host-95-199-197-6.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #openttd 16:30:32 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5dfe.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:14 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:02:52 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:06:05 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 17:06:21 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-51.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:07:16 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-51.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:08:31 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:41 *** montalvo [~montalvo@101.166.155.98] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:23:49 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:26:27 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:42 *** frodus [~frodus_de@static243-243-8.mimer.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35:39 <Eddi|zuHause> if you're not missing the channel, it's probably not worth it :p 17:43:21 <frosch123> "FYI I never use buoys anyway. I just build them for making the orders, then destroy them later." <- lol 17:43:37 <frosch123> i don't think it can get better today 17:45:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25724 trunk/src/lang/luxembourgish.txt (2013-08-16 17:45:08 UTC) 17:45:17 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:18 <DorpsGek> luxembourgish - 2 changes by Phreeze 17:46:40 <LordAro> hmm, that's a kernel bug, right? http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2518/ 17:47:22 <frosch123> most kernel issues are due to crappy hardware 17:47:41 <LordAro> D: 17:50:23 <frosch123> at least it is a great myth, but it also matches my experience :) 17:51:16 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:51:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:52:24 <LordAro> can't say i've had these sort of problems before :L 17:53:12 *** flaa_ [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 17:53:27 <Zuu> random segfaults sounds like a broken RAM 17:53:57 <Zuu> Run memtest86+ and hopefully it shows that some part of your RAM is broken. 17:54:05 <LordAro> urgh 17:54:27 *** frodus [~frodus_de@static243-243-8.mimer.net] has joined #openttd 17:54:57 <Zuu> I say hopefully, because in that case, the problem will be resolved by replacing the broken RAM module or passing a to the kernel in GRUB to not use the broken sector. 17:55:26 <LordAro> it's out of warranty too :( 17:55:29 <Zuu> If it is not the RAM, then it usually takes much more work to resolve. 17:55:57 *** Tom_Soft [~id@37.140.99.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:55:58 <Zuu> RAM is quite non-expansive these days. 17:56:33 <Zuu> Its not like the 512 memory module for 200 Euro I got for my first laptop :-) 17:56:53 <LordAro> that's true 17:56:57 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:57:21 <glx> <LordAro> it's out of warranty too :( <-- not a lifetime warranty RAM ? 17:57:30 <LordAro> probably, i don't know 17:57:52 <Zuu> Lifetime as in the lifetime of the retailer? :-D 17:58:39 <glx> of the buyer 17:59:54 <Zuu> The last year several computer retailers has gone bankrupt in Sweden. In that case you need to contact the manufacturer directly to get any warranty. 18:00:49 <glx> RMA takes more time in that case 18:03:12 <Bad_Brett> hmm my trains look like they're made out of rubber 18:04:33 <Rubidium> glx: doesn't lifetime warranty imply "until the end of life of the product", and since the product is financially total loss it is declared dead? 18:16:41 <maddy_> have I understood the basic concept of openttd code correctly? UI stuff is client-specific, but whenever game state is affected, DoCommand needs to be called so all clients are updated? 18:17:20 <Alberth> sounds quite correct to me 18:17:54 <Alberth> except that the server is also a client that needs to be updated :p 18:20:29 <maddy_> and when do I use DoCommand vs DoCommandP? 18:21:14 * Alberth doesn't know 18:21:19 <frosch123> DoCommandP is the network transmission 18:21:31 <frosch123> you call it on the client side, and it comes out on all other sides 18:21:51 <frosch123> DoCommand is used for stuff that is triggered automatically on all clients and not via user interaction 18:22:04 <frosch123> either as part of the gameloop, or as subcommand of another command 18:22:28 <maddy_> ok that clarifies it, thanks 18:24:44 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:40 <frosch123> if you call docommand from the gui (where docommandp would be the right choice), it will desync 18:26:25 <frosch123> if you call docommandp from the gameloop or somehwere where docommand should be used, then the command is duplicated from every client to all clients, so the command is effectively executed "number of clients" times 18:26:38 <frosch123> thought it might as well just assert :p 18:28:12 <Zuu> I started a bit on the Query -> StoryPage conversion of the Tutorial just to realize that it needs an interactive story book as discussed in FS#5616 18:28:18 <maddy_> frosch123: ok 18:50:50 *** frodus [~frodus_de@static243-243-8.mimer.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:05 *** Markk_ [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has joined #openttd 18:55:33 *** Markk_ [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has quit [] 18:58:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF99.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:24 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.16.234] has joined #openttd 19:13:15 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.16.234] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:51 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.16.234] has joined #openttd 19:33:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:00:43 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.59.233.118] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07:11 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@host-95-199-197-6.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 20:07:45 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.59.233.118] has joined #openttd 20:14:18 *** scshunt [raedford@00017de0.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B938.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:37:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CAA0.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:49 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:59:10 *** lugo [lugo@000189e6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:28 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 21:08:35 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.16.234] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09:59 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has joined #openttd 21:11:54 *** amiller [~amiller@216-15-29-79.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:23 *** amiller [~amiller@216-15-29-79.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #openttd 21:16:53 *** idiotmeat [~idiotmeat@pool-108-41-167-64.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:19:43 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:19:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 21:21:35 *** amiller [~amiller@216-15-29-79.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:31 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-90-238.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:28:18 <andythenorth> so...sacks of coffee 21:28:25 <andythenorth> but the cargo icon is a coffee cup 21:28:32 <andythenorth> you'll live with that :P 21:31:07 <andythenorth> hmm 21:31:14 <andythenorth> ugly industries on minimap are ugly :( 21:32:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B938.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:33:08 <andythenorth> maybe I should split FIRS into one grf per economy 21:33:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B938.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:33:46 <andythenorth> or one grf per industry 21:34:01 <andythenorth> can we have a grf container format? 21:35:34 *** flaa_ [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:36:04 *** idiotmeat [~idiotmeat@pool-108-41-167-64.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 21:40:14 <andythenorth> hmm 21:40:25 <andythenorth> if I stick 10 grfs in one tar, what will openttd do? o_O 21:40:49 <frosch123> bananas won't accept it 21:40:53 <frosch123> ottd does not care 21:41:44 <Terkhen> good night 21:41:51 <andythenorth> I am seriously considering splitting FIRS to multple grfs 21:41:57 <frosch123> why? 21:42:01 <andythenorth> compile time 21:42:08 <andythenorth> it's untenable now 21:42:17 <andythenorth> I can't be bothered to work on anything if it needs a full compile 21:42:28 <frosch123> and what makes you think that splitting would speed it up? 21:42:29 <Wolf01> 'night 21:42:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:43:07 <andythenorth> nml could scan each file for varact 2 *much* faster (is my assumption) 21:43:14 <andythenorth> and I could run multiple nml compiles 21:43:38 <andythenorth> got no evidence :) 21:45:41 <frosch123> well, i guess some debug switches to compile only some stuff for testing might rather reach the goal 21:45:47 <andythenorth> I have that already 21:45:54 <frosch123> splitting would still take the same comile time for the full-firs economy 21:46:01 <andythenorth> yes 21:46:22 <andythenorth> seems nmlc does load up all the cores I have 21:46:28 <andythenorth> don't know how it's managing that 21:46:37 <andythenorth> it shouldn't be able to afaik 21:51:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF99.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:57:26 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:00:10 <andythenorth> good night 22:00:12 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:04:06 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:39 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-51.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:21 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@91-94.198-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 22:15:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5dfe.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:00:35 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:10:50 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 23:12:23 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.198.128] has joined #openttd 23:14:16 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@187.59.235.194] has joined #openttd 23:15:40 <Bad_Brett> whaa? 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