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06:26:11  <Terkhen> good morning
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07:15:13  <LordAro> /o
07:25:43  <Jomann> some interesting game somewhere?
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07:44:11  <Wolf01> morning o/
07:49:53  <__ln__> well observed
07:50:38  <Alberth> moin
07:54:52  <LordAro> /o wolf, ln and Alberth :)
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08:45:40  <andythenorth> o/
08:50:32  <TWerkhoven> ello
08:52:41  <Zuu> Hello
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08:57:15  <LordAro> /o
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10:23:24  <Arkabzol> funny when "modern office building" emerges in the 80's
10:24:34  <Alberth> you're playing in the wrong century :p
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12:10:47  <LordAro> Paging Rubidium & other devs... http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5722
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12:37:38  <Bad_Brett> HIHIHIIHIHIHI
12:37:44  <Bad_Brett> It's aliiiiive!!!
12:43:24  <LordAro> quick, kill it with fire!
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12:50:23  <Bad_Brett> never! :D
12:50:46  <Bad_Brett> extra turning angles are here to stay!
12:50:55  <Bad_Brett> but now, it's time for some floorball
12:51:22  <LordAro> oh god, what have you done, eddi? D:
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14:17:11  <DanMacK> @seen andy
14:17:11  <DorpsGek> DanMacK: I have not seen andy.
14:17:20  <DanMacK> @seen andythenorth
14:17:20  <DorpsGek> DanMacK: andythenorth was last seen in #openttd 5 hours, 31 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <andythenorth> o/
14:20:34  <LordAro> he was online until about 80 mins ago
14:20:36  <DanMacK> Hey all
14:20:39  <LordAro> heyo
14:20:43  <DanMacK> Cool
14:21:02  <DanMacK> meh, I'll catch him at some point, lol
14:27:56  <frosch123> lay out a trail of legos
14:28:22  <frosch123> and snap him at the end
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15:25:42  <NGC3982> I love working with insurances.
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15:30:35  <DanMacK> Hey Brett
15:30:46  <Bad_Brett> hey DanMack :)
15:32:40  <LordAro> hey brett also :)
15:32:51  <LordAro> how was ...floorball?
15:32:55  <LordAro> (whatever that is)
15:33:29  <Bad_Brett> it was great, i'm tired as hell though
15:34:15  <Bad_Brett> floorball is a sport for those of us who wish we were ice-hockey players but can't skate :)
15:35:10  <Bad_Brett> now, it's time to add this baby to the game:
15:35:15  <Bad_Brett> http://www.badbrett.se/goldrush/images/Norris.gif
15:35:33  <DanMacK> NICE!
15:35:52  <LordAro> it seems to get longer when vertical ('|')
15:36:28  <Bad_Brett> that's because it is
15:37:06  <LordAro> ?
15:37:09  <Bad_Brett> or, it's shorter when / and \
15:37:20  <LordAro> oh, is that the weird ottd thing?
15:37:28  <Bad_Brett> yeah
15:37:54  <Bad_Brett> but you see it more clearly when it's rotating in the same spot
15:38:46  <LordAro> and you designed the 3d model that does that?
15:39:09  <LordAro> *made the 3d model get longer/shorter for those angles?
15:39:51  <Bad_Brett> yep
15:40:05  <Bad_Brett> it compresses to 90%
15:40:32  <LordAro> clever :)
15:40:45  <Bad_Brett> hehe thanks
15:40:45  <LordAro> i wonder if zeph did that...
15:40:51  <Bad_Brett> i think he did
15:40:54  <Bad_Brett> not sure though
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16:09:17  <LordAro> /o Zuu
16:09:31  <Zuu> Hello LordAro
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16:22:07  <NGC3982> "Its" without the ', indicates possession, right?
16:22:21  <NGC3982> "Its own fault"
16:22:35  <frosch123> yes, "it's" would be "it is"
16:22:46  <frosch123> typical structure in programming
16:22:50  <NGC3982> And: "It's a good day".
16:22:59  <NGC3982> Right, thank you.
16:23:02  <frosch123> if one term would make sense, but is already used by something else, pick the opposite
16:23:26  <frosch123> it's the fundamental theme of e.g. DOS
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16:24:03  <frosch123> oh, we used "/" for command line parameters! easy, just use "\" instead
16:24:37  <frosch123> oh we used a printable character in first position to denote a deleted file
16:24:50  <frosch123> let's use a non-printable character to represent that one printable character
16:25:27  <frosch123> oh, no software works with dpmi 1.0, let's stick with 0.9
16:26:06  <NGC3982> Hehe, i see.
16:26:24  <NGC3982> That's a fascinating comparison.
16:29:13  <frosch123> oh, fat16 is reaching its limitations on harddisks after 10 years, let's do fat32 to last 4 years
16:33:20  <LordAro> not bitter, are we? :p
16:33:58  <frosch123> i just learned in young years that the average programmer is a douchebag
16:34:41  <frosch123> when i entered university i also got an idea about why that's the case :p
16:35:15  <V453000> I KNEW IT
16:35:48  <frosch123> but it prepared me well for work :p
16:36:03  * LordAro rates frosch as an 'above average' programmer :)
16:36:39  <frosch123> easy, i can resolve merge conflicts
16:36:49  <frosch123> *simple merge conflicts
16:37:21  <LordAro> :p
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16:54:46  <Bad_Brett> what should i use in a newgrf? I always used \ for the file paths and have had no problems with it, but / seems to be used more often
16:54:59  <Bad_Brett> *bad brett means nml
16:55:09  <scshunt> Bad_Brett: //
16:55:10  <scshunt> */
16:55:26  <scshunt> Bad_Brett: \ is not a path separator on Unix systems, so / is preferred for cross-platform stuff
16:55:39  <Bad_Brett> ah! that makes sense
16:55:59  <Bad_Brett> should take too long to make these modifications
16:56:07  <frosch123> Bad_Brett: / is the traditional path separator used since 60's
16:56:09  <Bad_Brett> *shouldn't
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16:56:24  <frosch123> then someone came along and said: dos is for simple machines we do not need directories
16:56:31  <Bad_Brett> *bad brett grew up with MS-DOS
16:56:50  <frosch123> then someone needed a character to indicate comand line parameters, and used / which is a handy key on us keyboards
16:57:11  <frosch123> then someone noticed that directories would be a nice feature for the next dos version
16:57:53  <frosch123> basically all issues with windows are based on early design decisions in dos to make stuff simple
16:58:24  <frosch123> i would think dos is a curse word among ms employees :p
16:58:42  <Bad_Brett> haha
16:58:42  <Bad_Brett> interesting
16:58:45  <frosch123> people always want them to stay compatible with that old crap :)
16:58:54  <Bad_Brett> guess i'll use / from now on then :)
17:00:21  <Bad_Brett> so they basically added directories when / was already used for command line parameters?
17:00:40  <Bad_Brett> and since / was already taken, they decided to go with \?
17:00:48  <frosch123> yeah, kind of :)
17:00:59  <Bad_Brett> haha that sounds so stupid
17:01:04  <frosch123> just that directories with / existed way before dos
17:01:18  <frosch123> Bad_Brett: it's not the only case. that kind of stuff is all over the place in dos
17:01:30  <frosch123> use something ad hoc which seems handy, later regret it
17:02:10  <Bad_Brett> strangely, that strategy seems to working... just look at adobe :)
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17:06:04  <Bad_Brett> you know that Paintshop Pro 7 from 2000 is better at optimizing .psd-file than Photoshop?
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17:06:23  <DanMacK> Doesn't surprise me
17:07:22  <Bad_Brett> When I worked with really large image files, I would sometimes re-save the .psd-files in PSP7 to get the file size down
17:08:42  <Bad_Brett> actually, i edit all my graphics for OpenTTD in PSP7 instead of photoshop or gimp
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17:10:01  <DanMacK> Just the guy I was looking for :P
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17:11:42  <LordAro> he doesn't notice unless you say his name :P
17:12:02  <andythenorth> Lo danmack
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17:45:19  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25742 trunk/src/lang/polish.txt (2013-08-24 17:45:11 UTC)
17:45:20  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:21  <DorpsGek> polish - 17 changes by voythas
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18:00:07  <NGC3982> I must say, the Openttd app for android is quite alright.
18:05:45  <NGC3982> A bit more unefficient, though.
18:06:02  <NGC3982> Inefficient*
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18:47:48  <Bad_Brett> hmm cool
18:48:07  <Bad_Brett> this is gonna get interesting
18:48:15  <Bad_Brett> when TT for android is released
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18:50:06  <Supercheese> especially since you can decompile .apk into source code
18:50:52  <Supercheese> I
18:51:06  <Supercheese> I've hacked my share of .apks by de/recompiling
18:52:16  <frosch123> Bad_Brett: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=62838
18:53:50  <frosch123> if that's what you meant with getting interesting :p
18:54:29  <Supercheese> I think he meant Chris Sawyer's TT 2013
18:55:05  <frosch123> yeah, put into context with earlier mentioning of the ottd port
18:57:18  <frosch123> tl;dr: there was a andoid port of ottd; cs filed dcma; maintainer objected, nothing happened, google reinstalled port after timeout
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19:09:32  <andythenorth> blah blah blah
19:09:50  <Supercheese> Tidal Wave!
19:09:57  * Supercheese wonders if anyone will get that reference
19:14:06  * scshunt does not
19:15:38  <LordAro> frosch123: was it ever shown that it actually was cs? i thought it was just some random person
19:15:51  <LordAro> (was cs or had something to do with him)
19:16:30  <frosch123> LordAro: the quoted dcma request says the lawer is acting representing cs' company
19:17:36  <frosch123> "31X Ltd"
19:19:26  <V453000> LOL I was searching for a bug for like 20 minutes to find out I forgot to save the png image ....
19:21:11  <LordAro> frosch123: ah, i don't think i would've recognised that company name when i read it originally
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23:23:01  <Wolf01> 'night
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