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driving me nuts 04:08:48 <Qsuicide> how do i make a town accept something? especially something they are offering a subsidiary for? 04:09:14 <scshunt> when you place the station, you can see what it will accept 04:09:20 <scshunt> it depends on the buildings in the town 04:09:34 <scshunt> and to claim a subsidy, you must actually deliver the goods, I believe 04:10:02 <Qsuicide> so i have a subsidiary that says 'mail from town a to b', but town b accepts: nothing, how do i win? lol 04:10:25 <Qsuicide> i put a truck stop down, setup the route, the mailtruck is full of mail, but it wont drop it off because it cant? 04:13:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C943.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:25:08 <scshunt> Qsuicide: You need to make sure that the station you put down in town b is near a building which accepts mail 04:25:20 <scshunt> when you place a station, you can see what it is close to 04:25:30 <Qsuicide> yeh, the catchment area 04:25:46 <Qsuicide> i tried adding a second station to each down to increase this area, placing the buildings to cover as much of town as possible 04:25:48 <Qsuicide> still no go :s 04:25:56 <Qsuicide> none of the stations will accept mail 04:26:00 <scshunt> don't actually place the stations 04:26:07 <Qsuicide> truck stations? 04:26:14 <scshunt> just open the station window and move your cursor around 04:26:19 <scshunt> the station window will tell you what they will accept 04:26:31 <scshunt> if the town won't accept mail anywhere, file a bug report and move on 04:35:24 *** kais58|AFK [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:41:56 <Qsuicide> i think, lesson learned here is not all subsidies can be done (easily/properly) 04:42:06 <Qsuicide> if i cant make a town accept mail, dont bother to setup a mail route lol 04:50:40 *** kais58|AFK [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4D67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6619A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:08:37 <V453000> LOL WTF is this "colouring of dirty blocks" XD party mode? 05:20:01 <peter1138> It colours dirty blocks. 05:28:21 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.135.29] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:29:11 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.90.164] has joined #openttd 05:29:14 <V453000> well I figured it does colour mayhem more than all nuts vehicles combined, but what is it for? :D 05:30:20 <peter1138> So you can see what areas are redrawn. 05:31:26 <V453000> looks funny 05:55:26 <Qsuicide> how does one create steel from a steel mill? im feeding it truckloads of ore, says its producing, but my truck stop never has 'steel' waiting 06:01:10 *** kais58|A1K [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:01:59 <peter1138> It won't have steel waiting if no vehicle carrying steel has visited 06:02:31 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 06:02:51 *** kais58|AFK [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:03:14 *** tsst [~id@37.140.99.39] has joined #openttd 06:23:17 <Supercheese> Hmm, the OpenTTD icon is surely GPL licensed; if I were to release a 3D model of the icon, it seems it would have to be GPL as well 06:23:43 <Supercheese> unfortunately, my model uses CC-BY-SA licensed components 06:24:03 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:24:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 06:35:56 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:43:42 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:52:51 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:52:53 * andythenorth wonders if nml would go any faster with a single spritesheet instead of many 06:56:14 * andythenorth -> zo 06:56:17 <andythenorth> zoo * 06:56:18 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 07:00:03 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:06:33 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:32:31 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-147-214-17.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:51:34 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:51:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 07:52:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 08:00:20 *** JVassie [JVassie@cpc14-nmal18-2-0-cust85.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:01:39 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.126] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812]] 08:04:01 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-38-96.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:04:08 <LordAro> /o 08:06:22 <Alberth> o/ 08:08:08 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-072-192.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 08:09:48 *** perk111 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 08:10:06 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 08:13:48 <__ln__> o`\ 08:16:11 <LordAro> \o __ln__ 08:29:24 <Terkhen> good morning 08:36:18 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@raspberrypi.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:58 *** DDR [~chatzilla@S01060019dbe06285.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 08:41:41 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:45:15 <Qsuicide> how do i fight the bermuda triangle? 08:45:25 <Qsuicide> my jets keep disappearing magically :S 08:46:23 <V453000> set max_aircraft to 0 and use trains instead 08:46:44 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@www1.sdrf.se] has joined #openttd 08:46:49 <V453000> if you look carefully, the aircraft just flew off the map accidentally 08:47:00 <Qsuicide> for real? lol 08:47:14 *** Zuu is now known as Guest4437 08:47:14 <V453000> yeah, trains have rails so it cant happen 08:48:32 <Qsuicide> this is a bug then with the open ttd software? cant avoid my planes flying off into the abyss? 08:48:57 <Alberth> it is rumoured that not having fast aircraft landing at small airports also helps in not flying them off map 08:49:27 <Qsuicide> that could be possible. im using the basic airport, but big phatty jets 08:49:50 <Qsuicide> it didnt seem to happen with the coleman smaller jet 08:50:10 <Qsuicide> but soon as i started ramping up into planes that carry 250ish+ people, all the sudden im wondering where my planes went 08:50:28 *** Guest4437 is now known as Zuu 08:50:51 <LordAro> likely that you're using large aircraft at small airports 08:50:53 <V453000> ok, the truth is that your aircraft is crashing on the small airports 08:50:53 <Alberth> hmm, not really findable at the wiki 08:51:05 <LordAro> Alberth: add it :p 08:51:13 <LordAro> /o Zuu 08:51:28 <Zuu> Hello 08:51:35 <Qsuicide> i do SOMETIMES see the crashes, i just noticed all the sudden i was missing a half dozen planes, rebuilt them all, look away for a few mins, missing more planes, scratching my head.. 08:51:48 <Qsuicide> upgrading airports to test, thx for tips :) 08:52:26 <LordAro> Qsuicide: http://wiki.openttd.org/Aircraft#Accidents 08:53:05 <Zuu> When upgrading an airport, the somewhat new close airport button in the station window can be useful. 08:53:20 <LordAro> i have said before that aircraft/airports should show whether they're large or small 08:54:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18DFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:55:37 <V453000> newgrf people: is there some maximum of random switches that 1 sprite can be influenced by? 08:55:54 <V453000> I have this, randomizing sprites, and recolouring http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2543/ 08:56:30 <V453000> but Somehow I am not getting many of the random values, and further strangely, e.g. the sprite randomizer seems to be somehow dependent on the colour randomizer 08:56:43 <V453000> aka I only get reversed sprites with dark blue 08:56:56 <V453000> with no custom heads 08:57:25 <V453000> am I running into some technical wall of maximum values? 08:59:54 <peter1138> There are 8 random bits. I don't know how random_switch allocates them, though. 09:01:43 <V453000> if I count correctly, I have 28 colour schemes, 5 sprite possibilities multiplied by 2, meaning there is 10 sprite sets ... that would make 280 possibilities 09:01:57 <V453000> I think my code already worked, presumably before I went over 255 possible outputs? 09:02:13 <peter1138> RAINBOWSLUG_colour_mapping_random needs 5 bits 09:02:20 <peter1138> param[01] = reserve_sprites(17); 09:02:20 <peter1138> replace(param[01]) { 09:02:20 <peter1138> recolour_sprite { //CCdark blue 09:02:20 <peter1138> /* 0xC6: 0xC6; 09:02:20 <peter1138> 0xC7: 0xC7; 09:02:23 <peter1138> 0xC8: 0xC8; 09:02:25 <peter1138> 0xC9: 0xC9; 09:02:28 <peter1138> 0xCA: 0xCA; 09:02:28 <V453000> oh 09:02:30 <peter1138> 0xCB: 0xCB; 09:02:33 <peter1138> 0xCC: 0xCC; 09:02:35 <peter1138> 0xCD: 0xCD;*/ 09:02:38 <peter1138> } //CCdark blue 09:02:40 <peter1138> 09:02:43 <peter1138> recolour_sprite { //CCpale green 09:02:45 <peter1138> 0xC6: 0x60; 09:02:48 <peter1138> 0xC7: 0x61; 09:02:50 <peter1138> 0xC8: 0x62; 09:02:53 <peter1138> 0xC9: 0x63; 09:02:55 <peter1138> 0xCA: 0x64; 09:02:56 <V453000> you wont paste all of the recolours will you :D 09:02:58 <peter1138> 0xCB: 0x65; 09:03:00 <peter1138> 0xCC: 0x66; 09:03:03 <peter1138> 0xCD: 0x67; 09:03:05 <peter1138> } //CCpale green 09:03:08 <peter1138> recolour_sprite { //CCpink 09:03:10 <peter1138> 0xC6: 0x2A; 09:03:13 <peter1138> 0xC7: 0x2B; 09:03:15 <peter1138> 0xC8: 0x2C; 09:03:18 <peter1138> 0xC9: 0x2D; 09:03:20 <peter1138> 0xCA: 0x2E; 09:03:23 <peter1138> 0xCB: 0x2F; 09:03:25 <peter1138> 0xCC: 0x30; 09:03:27 <LordAro> @kick peter1138 spamming :P 09:03:28 <peter1138> 0xCD: 0x31; 09:03:30 <peter1138> } //CCpink 09:03:33 <peter1138> 09:03:35 <peter1138> recolour_sprite { //CCyellow 09:03:38 <peter1138> 0xC6: 0x3E; 09:03:40 <Qsuicide> lol 09:03:40 <peter1138> 0xC7: 0x3F; 09:03:43 <peter1138> 0xC8: 0x40; 09:03:45 <peter1138> 0xC9: 0x41; 09:03:48 <peter1138> 0xCA: 0x42; 09:03:50 <peter1138> 0xCB: 0x43; 09:03:53 <peter1138> 0xCC: 0x44; 09:03:55 <peter1138> 0xCD: 0x45; 09:03:58 <peter1138> } //CCyellow 09:04:00 <peter1138> recolour_sprite { //CCred 09:04:03 <peter1138> 0xC6: 0xB3; 09:04:05 <peter1138> 0xC7: 0xB4; 09:04:08 <peter1138> 0xC8: 0xB5; 09:04:10 <peter1138> 0xC9: 0xB6; 09:04:11 <__ln__> @seen peter1138 09:04:11 <DorpsGek> __ln__: peter1138 was last seen in #openttd 0 seconds ago: <peter1138> 0xC9: 0xB6; 09:04:13 <peter1138> What the fuck 09:04:15 <peter1138> Irssi paste detection fail. I never even had that in my paste buffer o_O 09:04:20 <V453000> XD 09:04:42 <V453000> well, what did you mean to say instead? :) 09:05:08 <peter1138> I can't remember now 09:05:20 <V453000> [11:01] <@peter1138> RAINBOWSLUG_colour_mapping_random needs 5 bits is last you said 09:05:38 <peter1138> RAINBOWSLUG_ZEBRA_COLOURRANDOM_rest needs 4 bits 09:05:58 <V453000> right 09:06:04 <peter1138> -_rest 09:06:16 <peter1138> RAINBOWSLUG_RAINBOWZEBRA needs 1 bit 09:06:22 <V453000> _rest are the same as without it 09:06:24 <peter1138> that's 10 bits. Into 8 bits. 09:06:32 <V453000> hm 09:06:33 <peter1138> Yeah. 09:07:15 <V453000> do randomized sprites influence this? 09:07:16 <peter1138> But as I say, I don't know how these bits are allocated, or if it even works like that. 09:07:26 <V453000> k :) 09:07:33 <peter1138> Randomised sprites are the same thing. 09:11:52 <V453000> will bother frog when he comes around :) 09:12:08 <V453000> the slugs have a unicorn head as one of the options after all 09:12:56 <V453000> thanks for trying to help :) 09:14:45 <peter1138> I guess if NML does some magic then it may not need to use bits. 09:15:43 <peter1138> Then it's 9 * 2 * 23 09:15:56 <peter1138> Which is way more than 256. 09:16:46 <LordAro> @calc 9*2*23 09:16:47 <DorpsGek> LordAro: 414 09:16:50 <LordAro> :) 09:17:40 <peter1138> And randomised sprites use the same bits. 09:25:55 <Qsuicide> ugh. Auto Renew Money Limit.. 09:26:12 <peter1138> Set to 0 :D 09:26:33 <Qsuicide> lol yah.. took me 10 minutes to figure out it existed, and why my vehicles wouldnt renew automatically lol 09:27:29 <Qsuicide> is there a way i can auto replace a vehicle with the same vehicle if it gets old? 09:29:22 <Qsuicide> seems to only work with vehicles that have an upgrade 09:29:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host180-136-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:29:30 <Alberth> that's autorenew 09:29:32 <Wolf01> hello 09:29:35 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 09:58:22 *** kais58|A1K is now known as kais58__3 10:01:13 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-124-15.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:06:30 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:30 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:08:36 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 10:23:27 *** thomas001 [~thomas@2a02:810a:340:478:78fe:9cd3:183:e802] has joined #openttd 10:24:10 <thomas001> hello, i noticed that cargodist is in trunk now. will it mess up AIs when enabled? what are the recommended settings regarding symmetric/asymmetric distribution? 10:25:00 <Zuu> Most AIs use point-to-point connections and will thus not be affected by cargodist. 10:25:17 <Zuu> Only AIs that reuse stations will be affected by cargodist. 10:26:07 <thomas001> good to know 10:26:25 <Alberth> symmetric means that cargo wants to travel in equal amounts at a line in both directions 10:26:50 <Alberth> that works if you have about the same amount of cargo to transport in both directions 10:26:56 <Zuu> Note that AIs can only see the advanced settings of cargodist. They cannot yet see the information shown in station windows etc. regarding where cargo want to go etc. 10:26:58 <Alberth> eg passengers and mail 10:27:26 <Alberth> valuables in temperate too, iirc 10:28:51 <thomas001> so i should set these 3 to symmetric and the rest to asymmetric? 10:29:35 <Alberth> that's up to you :p 10:29:57 <thomas001> ;-) 10:30:08 <Alberth> asymmetric doesn't exclude the option of full trains in both directions, but it is not forced by the algorithm 10:30:48 <thomas001> so there is no 'best practice', yet? 10:31:18 <Alberth> I would seriously doubt we will ever have one 10:31:43 <Alberth> everybody plays the game with his own favorite combination of settings and newgrfs 10:32:02 <Alberth> there is no common best stuff 10:32:36 <thomas001> okay, i imagined there are common settings used in multiplayer, but seems i was wrong 10:33:47 <thomas001> one last thing: will cargodist break ecs or firs? 10:33:52 <Zuu> I would probably go on asymetric first and only go on symetric if needed. 10:34:33 <Zuu> But some will think that eg. passengers should be symetric. 10:34:58 <Alberth> industries don't care what you do with the cargo 10:35:33 <thomas001> okay, thank you all for the information! 10:35:51 <Alberth> but serving all industries at a map with a common infra structure becomes quite interesting ;) 10:46:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fee6b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:56:06 *** Devroush [~dennis@91.179.106.12] has joined #openttd 10:57:13 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@e179071063.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:00:34 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:02:06 *** Devroush367 [~dennis@91.179.106.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:03:59 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 11:09:31 *** ntoskrnl11 [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:16:26 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:23:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r25743 trunk/src/video/cocoa/event.mm (2013-08-25 11:23:10 UTC) 11:23:17 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5705]: [OSX] Text input into an edit box would trigger hotkeys. 11:27:10 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:31:24 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 11:33:56 *** ntoskrnl11 [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:39:44 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-147-214-17.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:43:10 <Arkabzol> Haha... My first cashmaker. 100 years old now. 11:43:35 <Arkabzol> Such timing I have. 11:45:34 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-147-214-17.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:10:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:11:58 <andythenorth> Alberth: thanks :) 12:12:15 <Alberth> it's what you needed? 12:12:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18DFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:12:25 <andythenorth> yup 12:12:30 <Alberth> ok, yw :) 12:17:24 <andythenorth> Alberth: l224-228 - is that a sensibly formatted docstring? I'm trying to understand the PEP rules on docstrings for classes :) https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/entry/src/ship.py 12:17:42 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:17:44 <andythenorth> looks like too many newlines to me :P 12:19:26 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has joined #openttd 12:19:48 *** ntoskrnl11 [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:24:42 <Alberth> it looks too few newlines to me :) 12:25:33 <Alberth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/eints/repository/entry/webtranslate/utils.py <-- that's epydoc 12:25:51 <andythenorth> more balanced with the triple quotes on separate line 12:26:28 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:23 <Alberth> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0257/ 12:28:04 <andythenorth> that's what I was following :) 12:28:17 <andythenorth> triple quotes on same line, blank lines before and after docstring? 12:28:19 <andythenorth> ugly :P 12:28:35 <Alberth> ah, my convention does look nicer indeed 12:28:52 <andythenorth> PEPs are sometimes to be honoured by ignoring them 12:28:55 <andythenorth> especially PEP 8 12:28:56 <andythenorth> :P 12:29:46 <Alberth> you just have a lot of exceptions :p 12:31:26 <Alberth> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0258/ uses my convention 12:32:02 <Alberth> nice things about standards, just use the one you like best :p 12:32:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C943.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:33:32 <andythenorth> :) 12:51:18 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 12:57:04 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-124-15.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:28 *** MrShell [~mrshell@HSI-KBW-5-56-195-183.hsi17.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 13:37:54 *** MrShell [~mrshell@HSI-KBW-5-56-195-183.hsi17.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:43:07 <Eddi|zuHause> things i hate most about multiline strings => either the indentation becomes part of the string, or you have unindented stuff in the middle of the program 13:44:47 <TinoDidriksen> Or use concatenation. 13:48:29 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - 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10 changes by abdu354 17:45:27 <DorpsGek> serbian - 30 changes by ivan_mile 17:53:09 *** tsst [~id@37.140.99.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:03:36 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:07:27 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:17:23 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:22:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C943.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:23:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C943.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:27:46 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has joined #openttd 18:42:03 <TWerkhoven> Xaroth: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2550/ 18:48:06 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:17 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 19:00:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:09:51 <V453000> 1:1 realistic visualisation of what will happen by year 2099 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/RAINBOWSLUGS1.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/RAINBOWSLUGS2.png 19:11:44 <Alberth> really nice tracks 19:11:58 <Zuu> Hmm, I lost my voice in .dev 19:12:06 <Zuu> ScriptTown::FundTown(..) or ScriptTown::FoundTown? 19:12:16 <V453000> this is more about the trains Alberth but thanks :P 19:12:35 <Alberth> and still block signals? :p 19:13:26 <V453000> you mean the proper ones? :> 19:13:49 <V453000> there is actually a relatively high amount of PBS in that game 19:13:54 <V453000> so your argument is invalid :> 19:14:02 <Qsuicide> public broadcast system? 19:14:03 <Alberth> Zuu: CmdFoundTown says the source code 19:14:20 <V453000> pretty bad signals 19:14:50 <Qsuicide> i havent even started playing with trains yet. oh wait no. i did a coal loop ftw. 1 train, 1 lane, no accidents :D 19:16:36 <frosch123> Zuu: you found a new town, you fund new building in an existing town 19:16:47 <Alberth> slugs look so nice, and I haven't even played with wetrails yet 19:17:22 <Alberth> you're so quick with making new additions! 19:17:25 <Qsuicide> oh LOL those are slugs. i just thought it looked like rollercoaster cars 19:17:50 <Alberth> nah, they don't go upside down 19:18:12 <V453000> they indeed dont Alberth, but some of them do go backwards XD 19:18:15 <Qsuicide> you have so many trains, but nowhere for the people to live :( 19:18:53 <frosch123> V453000: are the tracks purr tracks? 19:19:04 <V453000> yes. green ones 19:19:12 <frosch123> ok, finally sane maglev tracks 19:19:19 <V453000> :) 19:19:46 <V453000> only 565 trains on 256x256 Qsuicide 19:20:14 <Qsuicide> oh thats not too many at all :o 19:20:19 <V453000> exactly 19:20:42 <Qsuicide> 65536 squares, 565 trains, <1%! 19:20:52 <Qsuicide> time to ramp it up eh? 19:21:05 <frosch123> well, you have to consider train length 5 at least :p 19:21:19 <V453000> http://www.openttdcoop.org/files/publicserver_archive/PublicServerGame_216_Final.sav 19:21:22 <frosch123> you cannot expect every tile to have two parallel tracks 19:22:39 <frosch123> V453000: the black slug with hat looks like a cow 19:22:54 <V453000> yes they need some improved contrast to make them more obvious 19:22:54 <frosch123> i like cows :) 19:22:59 <Qsuicide> how many hours does a 100 year game take at normal speed? 19:23:19 <V453000> 25 19:23:27 <V453000> +- 19:23:33 <Qsuicide> so around 15 minutes per year 19:23:33 <frosch123> @calc 100*365*74*0.03/3600 19:23:34 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 22.5083333333 19:23:52 <Qsuicide> 74? 0.03? 19:24:02 <LordAro> 74 ticks per day 19:24:10 <frosch123> 74 ticks per ingame day, 30 milliseconds per tick 19:24:12 <Qsuicide> odd number lol 19:24:19 <LordAro> blame cs :p 19:24:28 <LordAro> (iirc) 19:25:25 <Qsuicide> so 2.22 seconds per day 19:25:41 <Qsuicide> kk thx for maffs 19:25:49 <Zuu> frosch123: You can found a town. But you could possible also fund the cost of founding a town. 19:25:56 <V453000> frosch and his meths 19:26:04 <LordAro> ^^ 19:26:09 <Zuu> But Found is ok with me. 19:26:14 <frosch123> Zuu: yeah, but we already discussed that lengthly in the past :p 19:26:30 <Zuu> Ok 19:26:47 <Zuu> I must have missed that discussion. :-) 19:26:49 <frosch123> found is the new-town thingie, fund is the town-authorithy action 19:27:50 <frosch123> V453000: meth? myth? math? 19:29:03 <V453000> all of the above? 19:29:08 <V453000> how else do you explain unicorns 19:29:14 <V453000> math people on meth following myths 19:29:51 <frosch123> unicorns are easily explained, considering they can travel in time and space 19:30:10 <frosch123> though i am unsure about the total amount of unicorns 19:31:05 <frosch123> might be the "last unicorn" is only a joke-ish way to say "there is only one unique unicorn, but it can team up with itself by travelling in time and space" 19:32:28 <V453000> ok that sounds more than awkward :D 19:33:56 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.90.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:07 <V453000> just discovered this on our server https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/FASHION.png 19:38:45 <planetmaker> :D 19:40:17 <Bad_Brett> haha 19:43:55 <Supercheese> what 19:44:11 <Supercheese> slugs with top hats 19:44:56 <scshunt> Supercheese: the greatest 19:46:04 <Supercheese> Will NUTS ever expand to aircraft? 19:46:13 <V453000> surely not 19:46:26 <Supercheese> Aww, I wanted to see dragonfly helicopters and pegasi 19:46:37 <V453000> waste of time :) 19:48:41 <frosch123> it has hover animals instead 19:49:16 <frosch123> V453000: anyway, who built and sold so many slugs to end up with the right ones? 19:49:28 <V453000> some guy named solo 19:49:29 <scshunt> what makes a slug say fashion? 19:49:37 <scshunt> I've seen behatted slugs without fashion 19:49:54 <scshunt> also is nuts just going to become slugs? 19:49:58 <scshunt> (not that I have a problem with this) 19:50:34 <frosch123> scshunt: i think V is just extending the timeline of new engines into the future 19:52:33 *** DDR [~chatzilla@S01060019dbe06285.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 19:53:50 <V453000> slug is the ultimate bonus engine, it isnt even within the main 1920-2070 range as frosch says 19:54:05 <Bad_Brett> why did i read "I've seen beheaded sluts without fashion"? 20:03:50 <V453000> scshunt: they say it only when travelling in the one specific direction (and have a hat) 20:26:18 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:26:42 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 20:39:06 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 20:55:16 *** thomas001 [~thomas@2a02:810a:340:478:7078:e81d:6916:a7b3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:48 <andythenorth> time for bed 20:59:53 <andythenorth> said zebedee 21:00:03 <andythenorth> bye 21:00:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:01:35 <frosch123> night 21:01:38 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fee6b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:08:05 <Wolf01> night all 21:08:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:09:24 *** thomas001 [~thomas@2a02:810a:340:478:7078:e81d:6916:a7b3] has joined #openttd 21:17:14 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-38-96.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:28:59 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.90.164] has joined #openttd 21:35:01 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@www1.sdrf.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:45:24 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:59:53 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 22:05:34 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:21 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:45:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18DFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46:26 *** JVassie [JVassie@cpc14-nmal18-2-0-cust85.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:26 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:54:59 *** Qsuicide [Qsuicide@CPEb8a3865e8bc1-CM0017ee54355a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 23:08:26 *** Twofish [~Thorbjorn@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:15:34 *** Twofish [~Thorbjorn@46.228.54.111] has joined #openttd 23:18:10 *** JVassie [JVassie@cpc14-nmal18-2-0-cust85.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:22:35 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@raspberrypi.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 23:27:47 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 23:35:40 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:21 *** Twofish [~Thorbjorn@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:59:20 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has joined #openttd