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00:01:47 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:13 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-167.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:59 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.40.221.62] has quit [Quit: Keep reading my quit messages, I appreciate that. \ www.AdiIRC.com //] 00:22:32 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 00:29:02 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 00:29:13 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [] 00:29:14 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 00:29:35 *** BuckD [~BuckD@174-126-226-186.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 00:29:37 <BuckD> Learn about the top Google sniper http://7bb194y1y16u1o685klghnfu8u.hop.clickbank.net/ 00:29:38 *** BuckD [~BuckD@174-126-226-186.cpe.cableone.net] has left #openttd [] 00:32:04 <Haube> hi, i am looking for an option to start with minimal industry (which is there) and a way to prevent the random found of new industry or to have it limited to a minimal rate, to get an long slow evolving game, did i miss this option anywhere? 00:38:01 <Haube> basically in the generator dialog,. start with industry seed minimal , and from then player only 00:40:44 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:49:11 <Supercheese> the Manual Industries grf should let you do that with the default industries 00:49:17 <Supercheese> perhaps OGFX+ Industries as well 00:51:25 <Haube> thx i will check it out 00:57:55 *** Japa_ [~Japa@112.79.36.104] has joined #openttd 01:00:21 *** Japa_ [~Japa@112.79.36.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:51 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:04:40 *** fjb is now known as Guest7318 01:04:42 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:05:19 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.104] has joined #openttd 01:11:51 *** Guest7318 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:54:16 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:17:49 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:21:17 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 02:23:37 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD40BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66C19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:58:11 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@raspberrypi.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:08:27 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 06:28:13 *** Jomann [~abchirk@f052020033.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 06:54:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6DA69.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:18:43 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 07:29:47 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 07:45:13 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 07:47:51 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has joined #openttd 08:13:42 *** TheDude [~TheDude@main.novapolis.net] has joined #openttd 08:31:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AF4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:44:15 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-188-16.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 08:50:01 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:51:13 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:51:16 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:52:10 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-167.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:57:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6DA69.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:11:26 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.134.39] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 09:11:47 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:47 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:21:45 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A18544.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:22:18 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A18544.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:22:30 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A18544.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:23:16 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 09:23:58 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:26:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AF4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:26:19 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 09:26:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host180-136-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:26:54 <Wolf01> hello o/ 09:27:08 <LordAro> /o 09:27:20 <Alberth> moin 09:27:35 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:30:03 <planetmaker> moin 09:33:26 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:37:57 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.139.225] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:56:18 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-164-48-240.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:06:30 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25787 trunk/src/misc_cmd.cpp (2013-09-21 10:06:23 UTC) 10:06:31 <DorpsGek> -Doc: Doxygen comment was wrong 10:08:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc101.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:09:31 <LordAro> quak 10:09:44 <frosch123> moin 10:11:17 <Rubidium> ohayou 10:16:42 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.139.225] has joined #openttd 10:17:27 <V453000> mu 10:17:44 <Alberth> yo 10:19:21 <LordAro> oy 10:24:15 <AndreasB> yoyoyoy 10:24:24 <AndreasB> any of you scandinavian? 10:28:11 * LordAro points at Zuu (i think) 10:30:04 <Zuu> correct 10:30:19 <LordAro> yay :) 10:31:09 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:37:03 *** Vaulter1 [~vaulter@92.255.120.211] has joined #openttd 10:37:23 *** Vaulter1 [~vaulter@92.255.120.211] has left #openttd [] 10:37:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18544.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:42:23 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:55:22 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:01:04 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:08:19 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:19:22 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:31:50 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.157.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:20 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.157.55] has joined #openttd 11:39:34 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 11:55:20 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-176-132-167.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:14:13 <oskari89> AndreasB: I am? 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Oh... cu!] 13:07:48 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25788 /trunk/src (9 files in 4 dirs) (2013-09-21 13:07:42 UTC) 13:07:49 <DorpsGek> -Feature: [Script] Game Scripts can now charge fees and give money to companies 13:11:11 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 13:21:11 <Zuu> GS: "A new industry will open. You can now bid on getting it located near your HQ." 13:24:40 <Alberth> Like I want that smelly building anywhere near my HQ :D 13:25:08 <matkum> is there any benefit of the hq building 13:25:17 <matkum> so, does it matter, where to establish it 13:32:38 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:32:59 <frosch123> hmm, what's the replacement for the "target" in "<a>" links in html? 13:33:10 <frosch123> specifically to open in new tab/window 13:33:21 <frosch123> apparently "target" is deprecated or so 13:34:37 <frosch123> matkum: it supplies pax and mail, so it makes sense to build it at the very beginning of the game in a town you transport stuff from/to to increase production 13:34:45 <frosch123> it's irrelevant for bigger towns though 13:35:21 <frosch123> so, it's more of an early game bonus or so 13:35:34 <matkum> ah, ok. good to know 13:35:35 <Pinkbeast> matkum: Put it somewhere you will often look to stroke your ego. That's what I do, but then I'm a monstrous egotist. 13:36:43 <matkum> I started from year 1950 and now 1965, having 2 mil euros, so not that bad 13:38:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i only know "<a href="">" 13:38:57 <Eddi|zuHause> when i last coded html, tabs didn't exist yet :) 13:39:24 <Zuu> frosch123: target has been "not recommended" to use for long, but I don't know of a replacement to achive the same (ignoring javascript solutions) 13:40:48 <Zuu> The general recommendation is to let users decide themself if they want a new tab or not. Not to impose it in the html code. However, in some situations depending on the user group it may still be valid to set target=_new. 13:42:45 <matkum> or target=_blank 13:43:54 <Alberth> wiki also uses target <a target="helpwindow" href="/Help:Editing">Editing help</a> (opens in new window) 13:46:03 <frosch123> oh, it was un-depricated :p 13:48:41 <Alberth> :) 13:54:42 *** mouseym [~mouseym@host-92-3-230-74.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 14:07:03 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:07:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 14:12:32 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-188-16.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:12:56 *** DanMacK [~453f332b@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:13:43 <DanMacK> @seen andythenorth 14:13:43 <DorpsGek> DanMacK: andythenorth was last seen in #openttd 3 days, 17 hours, 10 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <andythenorth> have fun with law :) 14:14:19 <Alberth> it's too early :) 14:14:53 <DanMacK> heh 14:16:50 <frosch123> oh my, my html skills.., 14:16:59 <frosch123> i should just let andy fix it 14:19:00 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26:57 *** smallfly [~smallfly@p5B0B6140.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:28:46 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.139.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:52:06 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.40.221.62] has joined #openttd 14:59:55 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-176-132-167.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 15:07:52 * roboboy says gnight 15:09:05 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25789 trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp (2013-09-21 15:09:00 UTC) 15:09:06 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r25783): Calling GSTown.FoundTown in world gen caused world gen to terminate and start the game 15:12:59 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.139.225] has joined #openttd 15:17:19 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:24 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:32 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-167.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:33:50 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-167.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:53:13 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:05:47 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.139.225] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:08:25 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:09:15 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.105.50] has joined #openttd 16:15:46 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.139.225] has joined #openttd 16:17:28 <Zuu> GS API question: Should GSStoryPage.NewElement be able to construct all element types or should specialized NewXYZElement methods be added for types where the uint32 parameter is composed by several bit-shifted variables? 16:17:57 <Zuu> With several methods the bit-shifting magic is not exposed to GSes. 16:18:45 <Zuu> A Squirrel side wrapper could create a combined method where a table is used to pass the parameters and dynamically choose the API to call based on the element type. 16:27:38 <frosch123> i don't think bit stuffing should be part of the api 16:27:44 <frosch123> how is it done for orders? 16:28:02 <frosch123> bit stuffing is bad because it cannot be extended 16:28:11 <Zuu> I can't think of any API that require bit stuffing 16:28:20 <frosch123> we cannot change the format, add parameters, move them somewhere else 16:29:09 <frosch123> [18:28] <Zuu> I can't think of any API that require bit stuffing <- hu? that's what you were asking, wasn't it? 16:30:53 <Zuu> I was wondering if bit stuffing should be used when extending an existing API or if a separate method should be added with new parameters (and internaly combine several parameters to p2) 16:31:33 <frosch123> i think the api should provide new functions with more parameters 16:31:56 <frosch123> that way you are free to change the p2 format any time when needed 16:32:58 <Zuu> Good, I'm somewhat towards that idea too. Also that means that the doxygen of one combined method doesn't has to explode. (it is already quite large for just the page element types in trunk) 16:37:21 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:37:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:39:54 <alluke> aww 16:40:04 <alluke> why was switc climate removed :( 16:42:10 <alluke> good thing i found ottd 1.0.5 16:46:27 <frosch123> aww, why was switch climate added even in the first place :/ 16:46:46 <frosch123> good thing we god rid of that nonsense 16:47:43 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:51:32 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:00:49 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3082.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:08:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:14:31 <DanMacK> Switch climate creates too many issues 17:14:43 <DanMacK> always did 17:39:42 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.105.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:43:36 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25790 trunk/src/lang/ukrainian.txt (2013-09-21 17:45:18 UTC) 17:45:26 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:27 <DorpsGek> ukrainian - 11 changes by odisseus 17:47:14 *** DanMacK [~453f332b@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:03 *** DanMacK [~453f332b@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 18:02:26 <DanMacK> o/ 18:15:27 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 18:16:58 *** kais58__ [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:17:57 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.61] has joined #openttd 18:18:39 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:26:17 *** kais58__ is now known as kais58|AFK 18:26:22 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58__ 18:29:57 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:51 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:55:46 <Djohaal> hey Zuu 18:56:05 <Djohaal> derpy question, is the current neighbours are important release incompatible with founding new towns? The script crashes for me 18:57:52 <Zuu> It is supposed to work 18:58:12 <Zuu> So in that case it is a bug 18:59:01 <Djohaal> I'm using a patched version tho 19:00:27 <Supercheese> Well, that may be causing problems, test with clean trunk? 19:00:51 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 19:02:01 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 19:02:10 <Zuu> I'm able to reproduce it in clean trunk. 19:02:42 <Zuu> If you read the log you'll see that the script detect the new town and the crash occur due to a bug in the code that handles the new town. 19:03:26 <Djohaal> I'll check 19:04:44 <Djohaal> yup 19:04:47 <Djohaal> crash at addtown function 19:06:49 <Zuu> I've found and fixed it locally already. :-) 19:08:32 <Zuu> Its a mistake in a pice of code that only run when a town is funded in the game. The code adds the new town to the register of all towns in a sector of the map. This is used to speed up the script on large maps, but apparently this bug sneaked in. :-( 19:09:02 <Djohaal> shweet 19:19:41 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:28:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:29:57 <andythenorth> DanMacK: ohai 19:32:32 <Zuu> Djohaal: You can find an update on bananas now with the bug fixed. 19:32:45 <Djohaal> sweet 19:32:45 <Djohaal> thnaks 19:33:20 <DanMacK> Hey Andy 19:35:55 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25791 trunk/src/script/api/script_company.cpp (2013-09-21 19:35:49 UTC) 19:35:56 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r25788): Silence comiler warning in ScriptCompany::ChangeBankBalance 19:41:26 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:42:28 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:06:14 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:18:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18544.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:31:15 *** DanMacK [~453f332b@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:05:33 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.134.39] has joined #openttd 21:06:08 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 21:12:08 *** smallfly [~smallfly@p5B0B6140.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 21:16:29 <andythenorth> meh 21:16:38 <andythenorth> train flipping is unexpectedly hard 21:17:16 <andythenorth> offsets are borked 21:26:54 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, offsets are not related to the center of the bounding box but the "hidden" corner of the bounding box 21:27:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B86B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:27:25 <Eddi|zuHause> which makes a +-6/+-2 offset variation when flipping direction 21:27:37 <Eddi|zuHause> or something like that 21:27:47 <Eddi|zuHause> might be 7/3 21:30:06 <andythenorth> meh 21:30:19 <andythenorth> I thought it was bad spritesheet layouts, but not 21:30:20 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 21:30:21 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 21:30:31 <andythenorth> is there some var I have to check for 'flipped'? 21:30:47 <andythenorth> and then fix it myself with a switch to different offsets? 21:30:59 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, there is a var 21:31:05 <Eddi|zuHause> "veh_is_flipped" or something 21:31:23 <andythenorth> vehicle_is_reversed ? 21:31:39 <Eddi|zuHause> there are two different ones 21:31:54 <Eddi|zuHause> one is for vehicles reversing at end of line, and one for flipping in depot 21:32:09 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:29 <Eddi|zuHause> you probably want the second kind 21:32:43 <andythenorth> hmm 21:32:47 <andythenorth> nfo spec is probably better 21:33:00 <Eddi|zuHause> reversing at end of line is for people who want to switch cab car and engine to drive backwards 21:33:19 <Eddi|zuHause> which you should probably not do :p 21:33:50 <andythenorth> think that's modflags FE bit 8 21:34:21 <andythenorth> reversed sprite is var C8 21:35:25 <andythenorth> nml vehicle_is_reversed is modflags FE bit 8 21:35:31 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i find only the part where you allow/disallow flipping, not where you read it 21:35:39 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-167.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:35:40 <andythenorth> nml lacks it 21:35:42 <andythenorth> afaict 21:36:43 <andythenorth> hmm 21:36:46 <andythenorth> out of battery :P 21:36:48 <andythenorth> bed time :) 21:36:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:37:42 <Eddi|zuHause> seems an odd thing that nml doesn't provide this variable 21:52:54 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:33 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, misc_flags: bitmask(TRAIN_FLAG_FLIP) 21:58:30 <planetmaker> hm, as variable though? Hm... 21:58:35 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: that's the property to SET allow flipping, not the variable to read it 22:00:16 <planetmaker> which variable is it? 22:01:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd say ask andy... :) 22:02:27 <planetmaker> ah, C8 22:03:00 <planetmaker> wonderful... "FD for trains forward, FE or FF when reversed 22:03:13 <planetmaker> @base 16 2 FD 22:03:13 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 11111101 22:03:19 <Eddi|zuHause> does that only apply to ctrl+click flipping or also for the second part of a dualhead? 22:03:56 <Eddi|zuHause> so mask only the 2nd bit? 22:04:11 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:05:09 <planetmaker> probably... 22:06:41 <Eddi|zuHause> unfortunately, i have no use for this variable, as pretty much all my vehicles are articulated 22:08:07 <planetmaker> I can't answer your question without looking at hte source... which I'm too tired to dig through at this time of the day :-) 22:08:19 <planetmaker> but nevertheless, it could be added... probably should 22:08:33 <planetmaker> hm... though it might have had some reason not to... not sure :-) 22:11:40 <planetmaker> hm... no 0xC8 in newgrf.cpp 22:12:38 <Eddi|zuHause> you have to substract 0x80 22:14:41 *** mouseym [~mouseym@host-92-3-230-74.as43234.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14:59 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:18:49 <planetmaker> I don't think so... 22:19:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i do think so 22:20:47 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, you sure C8 is correct? 22:21:22 <planetmaker> there's no other. other than "train reversed". Which is what NML provides 22:22:01 <planetmaker> which is FE, bit 8 22:23:33 <Eddi|zuHause> oh right, i miscalculated. it's 28, not 38 22:23:35 <Eddi|zuHause> src/newgrf_engine.cpp: case 0x28: return 0; // cur_image is a potential desyncer due to Action1 in static NewGRFs. 22:25:49 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 22:26:29 <frosch123> C8 - 80 = 48 22:27:34 <frosch123> return HasBit(Train::From(v)->flags, VRF_REVERSE_DIRECTION) ? 0xFE : 0xFD; <- that's the relevant part 22:27:48 <frosch123> other results only occur if you use original sprites 22:27:50 <Eddi|zuHause> argh 22:28:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm clearly unable to calculate in my head 22:28:34 <frosch123> that FD is the same stupid FD you have to assign to property 12 22:30:08 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah i guessed as much 22:43:26 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:01:25 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 23:06:18 <Wolf01> 'night 23:06:28 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:13:08 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 23:14:35 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:18:31 *** kero [~keikoz@202.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 23:31:46 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.139.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:32:29 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:43:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18544.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:52:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc101.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:56:33 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.97.27] has joined #openttd