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00:10:03 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has joined #openttd 00:12:10 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-150.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03:47 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.102.202] has joined #openttd 01:08:07 *** fjb is now known as Guest543 01:08:08 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:10:59 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:14:54 *** Guest543 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:50:50 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:16:11 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.106.179] has joined #openttd 02:22:06 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.102.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:32 *** DDR [~chatzilla@S01060019dbe06285.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 04:49:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B674.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67E8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:58:11 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5599.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:01:47 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.98.180] has joined #openttd 05:05:36 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.106.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:06:09 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.98.180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07:01 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.7.201] has joined #openttd 05:39:25 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.81.79] has joined #openttd 05:40:38 *** DDR [~chatzilla@S01060019dbe06285.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 05:46:26 *** roadt__ [~roadt@114.96.142.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:50:22 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.57.181] has joined #openttd 05:51:09 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.57.181] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51:32 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.57.181] has joined #openttd 05:52:16 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.7.201] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:10:36 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.1.7] has joined #openttd 06:15:07 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.57.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:18:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:28:42 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 06:44:03 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.1.7] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:44:36 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.1.7] has joined #openttd 06:46:42 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.103.128] has joined #openttd 06:51:16 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.103.128] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:51:42 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.103.128] has joined #openttd 06:52:41 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.1.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:11:44 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 07:27:36 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 07:34:41 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.103.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:35:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:37:38 <Rubidium> ohayou 07:38:06 <Supercheese> aloha 07:38:52 * Rubidium desperately needs that day length patch, or rather a year length patch 07:40:09 <Rubidium> too bad I haven't been able to port it to real life yet :( 07:41:21 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.4.77] has joined #openttd 07:41:24 <Supercheese> If you manage that, sign me up :) 07:42:33 * Rubidium would vote for increasing the number of days in a month. That seems most benificial; more months == more monthly payments for rent and such 07:46:53 <Terkhen> hello 07:49:13 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:49:55 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 07:52:36 *** Dozer [Dozer@0x5e912f54.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 07:54:18 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.7.228] has joined #openttd 07:56:01 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:00:42 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.4.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:01:08 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-186-143-169.range86-186.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:01:35 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.100.47] has joined #openttd 08:07:16 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 08:09:42 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:16:53 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host180-136-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:16:57 <Wolf01> hello 08:18:51 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.0.47] has joined #openttd 08:20:14 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:22:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19007.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:25:42 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.7.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:30:52 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.96.155] has joined #openttd 08:31:02 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.0.47] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32:07 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.96.155] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32:18 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.110.5] has joined #openttd 08:33:54 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.108.189] has joined #openttd 08:40:22 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.110.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:42:12 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.108.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:44:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:45:25 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:00:53 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-150.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:08:08 *** tmsft [~id@37.140.124.50] has joined #openttd 09:09:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 09:09:43 *** Lord_Aro [~LordAro@host81-148-244-86.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:10:46 <Malinux-> is there a tool to edit newgrfs? I use the DACH Train set 0.3.0 and want to reduce running costs as they in my opinion is too high 09:10:55 <Malinux-> there is no paramenter for running costs 09:13:56 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 09:15:55 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-150.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:16:06 *** Lord_Aro is now known as LordAro 09:17:19 <AndreasB> Malinux-: Dont make enough on the trains? 09:17:34 <AndreasB> I see trains that make 2-300 000£ per run 09:20:16 <planetmaker> Malinux-, in that case, simply use a base cost newgrf which allows you to generally change costs for various things 09:20:26 <planetmaker> alternatively get the source code, modify, and re-compile 09:20:51 <planetmaker> the source code of the DACH set that is. But... for this, I'd not recommend that 09:21:52 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:21:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 09:22:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19007.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:22:33 <Malinux-> planetmaker: I could check out base cost newgrf, but don't think I can change running cost specially for that trainset 09:22:49 <AndreasB> how high is it? 09:22:59 <planetmaker> you can generally change running costs for trains 09:23:59 <Malinux-> planetmaker: yeah, in general ,but I don't want to change for the other trains, as their running costs is not a problem 09:24:40 <AndreasB> Malinux-: how high is it? 09:24:56 <Malinux-> If I make a train with length 20 and sbb-live-stock wagon the running cost pr. year is 3,699.900$ pr. year 09:25:06 <AndreasB> DAUYMN 09:25:10 <AndreasB> YU* 09:25:23 <Malinux-> that's too much.... 09:25:23 <AndreasB> and how much does the train make? 09:25:36 <AndreasB> 20 000 000$per year? 09:25:55 <Malinux-> not sure yet, I will check it out. I have tried earlier as the wagons have high capacity and noticed it was a lot of minus 09:26:18 <AndreasB> Try not making them that long before you need it? idk :3 good luck anyways 09:26:40 <planetmaker> bad luck, if you don't want to change them generally, can't change it on the others and don't have the source. you can de-compile, modify hex codes and re-compile. But... good luck there :-) Otherwise... just live with it :D 09:26:48 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:26:49 <Malinux-> one wagon has running cost of 88436$ pr. year 09:27:01 <AndreasB> Yep 09:27:06 <AndreasB> But.. The question is 09:27:11 <AndreasB> How much can that one wagon make? 09:27:22 <AndreasB> If it costs 1 dollar, and makes 14 09:27:22 <Malinux-> planetmaker: yeah. I think it's impossible for me to edit hexcode as it's like doing thing as blind I guess 09:27:25 <AndreasB> then thats OK 09:27:38 <AndreasB> if it costs 90 000 and makes 900 000 09:27:39 <Malinux-> AndreasB: I can make one such train and check out what it generates :) 09:27:41 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-13-34.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:28:33 <AndreasB> man i hate sneezing 09:43:41 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:48:08 <Malinux-> from transfer station to factory: running costs: 669000$ income 1098000$. 09:48:49 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has joined #openttd 09:48:52 <Malinux-> running cost for both directions combined will be about 1338000$ making total income negative 09:57:15 <Malinux-> hm.... I found the source :D 09:57:23 <Malinux-> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dach/releases/0.3.0/ 09:57:29 <AndreasB> both directions?? 09:58:02 <Malinux-> no 09:58:11 <Malinux-> that was one direction including income 09:58:26 <AndreasB> but considering it has to return 09:58:37 <Malinux-> yeah... that made it go to negative 09:58:45 <Malinux-> it was som delay too because of high trafic 09:58:46 <AndreasB> you dont think running costs are higher when loaded?= 09:58:55 <AndreasB> There is no such thing asz hgih traffix 09:59:01 <AndreasB> only too little tracks/stations 09:59:06 <AndreasB> xDš 09:59:14 <Malinux-> well. it was trafic jam, as I have done some stupid things, but is fixed now 10:00:19 <Malinux-> In source code, I found this: 10:00:34 <Malinux-> running_cost_factor:210; 10:00:50 <Malinux-> how does those numbers work? Can I just lower the value? 10:00:56 <Malinux-> and then build from source? 10:01:53 <Malinux-> looks like each model is represented in source code with their own running_cost factor and different values 10:02:15 <juzza1> yes, range is 0..255 10:03:35 <Malinux-> so how does the value work? 10:03:43 <Malinux-> what cost does 0 represent? 10:03:47 <Malinux-> or 255? 10:03:53 <AndreasB> Tried googling? 10:04:07 <Malinux-> nope 10:04:39 <AndreasB> :> 10:05:02 <Malinux-> :$ 10:05:06 <AndreasB> I guess theres a base cost 10:05:08 <Malinux-> I found something when googling 10:05:09 <AndreasB> Then a factor 10:05:12 <Malinux-> mhm 10:05:41 <Malinux-> description: multiplier to the base running costs 10:06:03 <juzza1> well the calculation is somethin like this for a diesel train: running cost = (running_cost_factor * 5200 * 2^(basecost multiplier)) / 128 10:06:06 <juzza1> looks ugly like that 10:06:24 <juzza1> basecost multiplier for default trains is 0 10:06:52 <juzza1> (for the set you are using it's probably something different) 10:06:54 <Malinux-> ah.. juzza1 thanx. That clears things up :) 10:07:22 <Malinux-> in the source I see values as 150 and higher 10:07:59 <Malinux-> now I have to identify the car I want to change the values for :) 10:08:43 <Malinux-> or just put all to 0 10:09:03 <juzza1> you could also search for the basecost value in the source 10:09:39 <juzza1> PR_RUNNING_TRAIN_STEAM, PR_RUNNING_TRAIN_DIESEL, PR_RUNNING_TRAIN_ELECTRIC 10:10:07 <juzza1> the wagons probably use one of those, since there is no separate value for wagons 10:11:02 <juzza1> basecost multiplier, rather 10:11:20 <AndreasB> Malinux-: What would.. 10:11:26 <AndreasB> Dont put it to 0 xD 10:11:37 <AndreasB> whats the fun in that? :D 10:16:25 <Malinux-> juzza1: yeah. I found it 10:16:54 <Malinux-> AndreasB: is 0 no running costs at all? I will have running costs, but not very high 10:17:01 <Malinux-> maybe 1 means multiplied with 1? 10:17:09 <AndreasB> [12:06:11] <juzza1> well the calculation is somethin like this for a diesel train: running cost = (running_cost_factor * 5200 * 2^(basecost multiplier)) / 128 10:17:15 <Malinux-> and 0 will be multiplied with 0 means none :S 10:17:30 <Malinux-> AndreasB: ah ok 10:17:31 <AndreasB> set it to 10 then 10:17:40 <Malinux-> ok 10:18:15 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6989.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:18:23 <AndreasB> or... something 10:18:25 <AndreasB> :P 10:19:08 <juzza1> the value 5200 is also different depending on PR_RUNNING_TRAIN_XXX used, 4800 for steam, 5200 diesel and 5600 for electric 10:19:37 <juzza1> actually the other way around, 5600 steam and 4800 electric 10:20:13 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 10:22:21 <AndreasB> how is distance calculated 10:22:30 <AndreasB> It is computed by adding the differences in x and y tiles (manhattan distance), not straight-line distance 10:22:48 <AndreasB> So there is smart rail design, and wasting time design, right? 10:23:03 <AndreasB> to achieve same distance 10:24:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:24:49 <AndreasB> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Manhattan_distance.svg 10:25:48 <AndreasB> There is no point in making the train go up to edge, then north? Because going straight across diagonally would yield the same distance? 10:29:35 <andythenorth> o/ 10:30:01 <AndreasB> what? :D 10:37:28 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.2.44] has joined #openttd 10:42:08 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:42:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 10:44:35 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:47:25 <AndreasB> http://www.twitch.tv/andreasb86 openttd ftw :P Only, I should have had 2 locos :( 10:47:46 <AndreasB> its way too heavy lol 10:48:15 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.2.44] has joined #openttd 10:48:36 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.100.47] has quit [Quit: Truly, the end of days.] 10:48:48 <AndreasB> Went down to 18kmh because of a little hill :S 10:54:13 <frosch123> livestreaming ottd :p 10:54:17 <AndreasB> haha 10:54:22 <AndreasB> Soon sold off, so 10:54:32 <Alberth> oh, that's still visibly moving :) 10:54:42 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.2.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54:42 <AndreasB> haha 10:55:19 <Malinux-> wow. it eh, it works :D 10:55:41 <AndreasB> Do you think 2 locos will do it? 10:55:50 <Malinux-> running costs is 8038$ pr year, pr. wagon 10:56:29 <Malinux-> or 564390$ pr. year. 10:58:51 <AndreasB> I dont think 2 locos is enough lol 11:08:57 <AndreasB> Are there any differences in having loco in front/rear? 11:09:11 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.2.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:12:17 <frosch123> somewhat, usually the engine is heavier than a wagon, so if they directly follow each other, they are more likely to be on a slope at the same time 11:12:37 <frosch123> thus increasing effective weight of the train 11:12:55 <AndreasB> but does openttd take that into account? 11:13:07 <frosch123> the weight on a slope counts yes 11:13:10 <AndreasB> should I move the 2 extra locos to the back? 11:13:17 <frosch123> you can see that your trains slows down when reaching the slope 11:13:24 <frosch123> but gets faster again once the engine has passed it 11:14:44 <AndreasB> yep 11:15:12 <AndreasB> so it should be faster with them distributed properly 11:16:20 <andythenorth> marginally 11:16:32 <AndreasB> k 11:19:19 <Dozer> Wait, you can have more than 1 loco on a trainset? 11:19:25 <AndreasB> yep 11:19:30 <Dozer> Oh nice, didn't know. 11:23:33 <V453000> soooo andythenotrh how is steam for ships going :) 11:23:47 <andythenorth> yeah 11:23:50 <andythenorth> it's bollocks :P 11:23:56 <andythenorth> I stopped asking for ponies a while back :) 11:24:26 <andythenorth> there was a conversation that went something like this... 11:24:30 <andythenorth> "can I have steam for ships" 11:24:34 <V453000> go see new STEAMING ships in nuts :P 11:24:35 <andythenorth> "probably, what's the spec" 11:24:37 <andythenorth> "spec" 11:24:43 <andythenorth> "yes but what's the spec" 11:24:48 <andythenorth> [ends] 11:24:58 <V453000> :D 11:25:17 <andythenorth> I'd like to see you do two funnels :P 11:25:19 <andythenorth> one each side 11:25:55 <V453000> wtf is that funnel 11:26:13 <V453000> fucking tunnel? 11:26:40 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/entry/src/graphics/capo_sandalo_vehicle_ferry_0.png 11:26:47 <andythenorth> nothing so interesting :P 11:28:05 <V453000> oh like fucking chimney 11:28:44 <andythenorth> yeah that 11:29:10 <AndreasB> o.O I didnt expect tha trmany people to join my server lol 11:29:18 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 11:31:18 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.157.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:49 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.157.55] has joined #openttd 11:41:27 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:59:15 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:06:00 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 12:08:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:31:33 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.99.0] has joined #openttd 12:41:10 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.99.0] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:57:07 <andythenorth> hmm 13:00:02 *** cypher_ [~cypher@ip-213-220-193-169.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 13:22:10 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-186-143-169.range86-186.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 13:22:59 <AndreasB> Hey guys 13:23:11 <AndreasB> Im trying to do rcon <pass> move 226 6 13:23:13 <AndreasB> but I get error 13:23:18 <AndreasB> but both are valid 13:23:45 <frosch123> try with quotes 13:23:50 <frosch123> rcon <pass> "move 226 6" 13:24:58 <AndreasB> ah 13:24:59 <AndreasB> thanks 13:28:28 <AndreasB> how do i reset entire company? o.O 13:28:41 <frosch123> stopcompany or so 13:28:50 <frosch123> stopcompany <number> 13:29:05 <frosch123> no idea :p 13:29:07 <AndreasB> no such comamdn 13:29:16 <AndreasB> resetengines doesnt work 13:29:34 <frosch123> resetengines is likely not allowed in multiplayer 13:29:44 <frosch123> and it would do something completely different anyway :p 13:30:14 <AndreasB> resetcompany worked 14:20:47 *** Dozer [Dozer@0x5e912f54.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:23:00 *** Takumo [~Takumo@immerse.adamek.me] has joined #openttd 14:23:04 <Takumo> Hi All! 14:23:33 <Takumo> Dumb Question that I've not found an answer for: Has anyone developed a Web interface for the OpenTTDd? 14:23:51 <Alberth> no idea 14:24:07 <Alberth> nobody published one as open source project afaik 14:24:22 <AndreasB> Whats the point of elextric vs diesel? 14:24:27 <AndreasB> It costs more, but doesnt go faster 14:24:50 <Takumo> The server hasn't got any form of API does it? So I'd have to pull some tricks with the console wouldn't I? 14:25:12 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 14:25:48 <Alberth> there is an API, and there are a few frameworks that make that api easier available afaik 14:26:48 <frosch123> Takumo: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/admintools 14:26:53 <Takumo> Well maybe that can be my TimeWasteProject number 3. 14:26:56 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-186-143-169.range86-186.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:26:58 <Takumo> Will check that out frosch123 14:27:16 <Alberth> Takumo: please consider contributing to something existing 14:28:28 <Takumo> I will do, I didn't know if there was anything existing out there 14:29:11 <Alberth> nice 14:30:51 <Takumo> That said what does exist doesn't look so great, might have to start a new project, preferably on an easier-to-access platform 14:31:20 <Takumo> that said if there is an API, knocking up a neat little Rails app or something to interface with it shouldn't be too hard 14:32:57 <frosch123> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/raw-file/default/docs/admin_network.txt <- api 14:33:23 <frosch123> but, well, there are existing libraries for at least python and java 14:33:33 <frosch123> irrc even one for c/c++ 14:33:44 <Takumo> and if it doesn't exist I'll work on a Ruby one :) 14:33:59 <frosch123> i don't remember anyone using ruby 14:34:08 <Taede> i think someone thought about starting one 14:34:16 <Taede> not sure if it ever got started 14:34:31 <Takumo> Well a Ruby OpenTTD Library should be faily straightforward 14:34:46 <Takumo> package it as a Gem that works with Rails, build an interface around it with authentication and such 14:34:48 <Takumo> Bam! 14:35:32 <frosch123> i think you are the first one in this channel to mention ruby in a positive way :p 14:35:42 <andythenorth> nothing wrong with ruby 14:35:55 * Taede has no experience of ruby 14:35:55 <Takumo> Nothing wrong with most languages, except Visual Basic :P 14:36:12 <andythenorth> javascript? 14:36:14 <andythenorth> nvm 14:36:22 <andythenorth> it's not one of those 'argue about code pointlessly' days :) 14:36:36 <frosch123> yup, today is a day of esports trolling 14:36:44 <Takumo> Javascript is O.K. I don't get all the people wetting themselves over Nodejs though 14:37:18 <frosch123> Takumo: play-ttd.com 14:37:25 <frosch123> javascript :p 14:37:34 <andythenorth> "nodejs allows even incompetent programmers to write high-perfomance apps" 14:37:52 <Alberth> lol 14:37:55 <frosch123> andythenorth: sounds like a huge target group 14:37:56 <Takumo> I link to think of myself as a competant polygot programmer 14:38:12 <Takumo> and my javascript code sucks, hard. 14:40:54 <Takumo> I thought all the incompetant programmers used Java, because it pays well and Eclipse can fix all your mistakes. 14:41:24 <andythenorth> there's loads of fun trolling around node 14:41:28 <andythenorth> like this: http://www.unlimitednovelty.com/2011/10/nodejs-has-jumped-shark.html 14:42:08 <Takumo> andythenorth: Don't forget to troll the noder's tools of choice 14:42:22 <Takumo> i.e. MongoDB (CSV File on a network share much?) 14:51:29 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31:04 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:49 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 15:50:19 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:17:36 <andythenorth> hmm 16:17:40 <andythenorth> it's like old times 16:18:07 <alluke> what is 16:18:28 <andythenorth> the past 16:20:16 <alluke> no shit 16:37:40 <AndreasB> coomplicated stuff 16:44:21 <andythenorth> V453000: drawing these pixels takes bloody ages 16:44:32 <andythenorth> I made tea, started fixing a ship, now the tea is cold :P 16:56:39 <Alberth> :) 16:59:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:01:15 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:02:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:05:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 17:08:26 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 17:14:54 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-186-143-169.range86-186.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 17:21:14 *** DDR [~chatzilla@S01060019dbe06285.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25800 /trunk/src/lang (english_AU.txt korean.txt) (2013-09-28 17:45:15 UTC) 17:45:24 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> english_AU - 5 changes by mrtux 17:45:26 <DorpsGek> korean - 5 changes by telk5093 18:11:30 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:15 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:24:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:26:33 <andythenorth> pikka's grf apparently contains random code 18:26:35 <andythenorth> how interesting 18:26:44 <andythenorth> if the code is random, the grf probably isn't savegame safe 18:26:46 <andythenorth> nor MP safe :P 18:26:49 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=32137&start=440 18:27:46 <Alberth> lol 18:30:44 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:58 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 18:38:30 <frosch123> andythenorth: when i open the off-topic forum, it comes up with random glibberish 18:38:44 <andythenorth> I think #tycoon does the same 18:38:57 <andythenorth> maybe it's just my client handling unicode badly or something :P 18:39:03 <frosch123> :p 18:39:40 * andythenorth wonders where that pony thread went 18:40:26 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=46689&p=915318&hilit=pony+wishes#p915318 19:02:45 *** DanMacK [~453f3eb5@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:02:49 <DanMacK> Hey all 19:05:34 <andythenorth> lo DanMacK 19:17:14 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@raspberrypi.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 19:28:25 *** tmsft [~id@37.140.124.50] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:39:04 <andythenorth> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmbace/9887830314/in/photostream 19:39:06 <andythenorth> DanMacK: ^ 19:39:17 *** Markk [mark@host155-38.etanet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:40:36 <__ln__> http://www.v2.fi/images/games/news/18826/pic2.jpg 19:47:00 *** Markk [mark@host155-38.etanet.se] has joined #openttd 20:11:13 <Alberth> nice andy 20:18:32 <__ln__> btw, seems that Apple has dropped GCC from Xcode 5, gcc and g++ are just aliases for clang(++). 20:32:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B674.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:16 <__ln__> configure --help --> "--with-liblzma[=liblzma.a] enables liblzma support" 20:54:14 <__ln__> but configure tries to execute the provided argument and says it is invalid. no shit. 20:54:49 <__ln__> so how does that switch actually work? 20:56:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19007.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:05:49 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-244-86.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:12:37 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 21:29:50 <andythenorth> neat http://www.technicbricks.com/2013/09/week-techvideo-2013-39-brick-sorting.html 21:31:46 <Supercheese> Hmm, I wonder if there are any other games translated into Latin I can borrow translations from... 21:32:03 <Supercheese> I found Legend of Zelda in Latin, but I was hoping for more computer-related terms 21:33:54 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 21:35:46 <Rubidium> what kind of computer terms do you need? 21:35:56 <Rubidium> you can always translate words literally ;) 21:36:30 <Rubidium> yields awful words though, at least in Dutch 21:36:53 <__ln__> Supercheese: https://wiki.gnome.org/Latin 21:37:15 <Supercheese> Well, if someone had translated e.g. Age of Empires into Latin (which I'm surprised I haven't found to have happened yet), it would be very helpful 21:37:44 <Supercheese> __ln__: gratias tibi! 21:39:04 <Supercheese> I'm particularly interested in what others have translated "click and drag" to 21:39:12 <Supercheese> I went "deprime traheque" 21:39:19 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 21:41:27 <andythenorth> bye 21:41:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:41:31 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:43:37 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6989.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:57:58 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:07:34 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12:30 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-186-143-169.range86-186.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:21:06 <Wolf01> http://www.brothers-brick.com/2013/09/28/lego-announces-new-maersk/ nice 22:26:48 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:27:09 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:28:28 <Supercheese> http://crowdin.net/project/minecraft/la-LA 22:28:29 <Supercheese> hehe 22:29:37 <Supercheese> Hmm, I disagree with the heavy use of first-person conjugations there 23:12:01 <Wolf01> 'night 23:12:04 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:29:57 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-186-143-169.range86-186.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:52:40 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...]