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00:38:38 *** bon [~18c83e2f@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 00:47:07 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:01:06 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 01:02:55 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:09:33 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:13:15 *** Sturmi3 [~sturmi@p4FEDD6C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Sturmi3] 01:30:31 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.88.137] has joined #openttd 02:08:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B618.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:24:19 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 02:26:36 *** kristal [~quassel@198-91-175-49.cpe.distributel.net] has joined #openttd 02:26:58 *** kristal [~quassel@198-91-175-49.cpe.distributel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:52:26 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:32:12 *** kais58__1 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 03:33:53 *** kais58___ [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:43:01 *** kais58__1 is now known as kais58|AFK 04:50:09 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@g231191232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD494F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:57:21 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g231086026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:26:26 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 05:42:32 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 05:50:13 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.109.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:53:12 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.109.240] has joined #openttd 06:03:38 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.109.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:37:00 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-42-127.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 06:41:18 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:44:54 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:44:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 06:46:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-91.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:50:43 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-42-127.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:07:20 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-91.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 07:21:36 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:21:39 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 07:24:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-91.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:26:18 <LordAro> morning 07:34:09 *** ChoHag [~mking@91.103.132.228] has joined #openttd 07:34:30 <ChoHag> When did signals become so expensive to run? 07:34:51 <Supercheese> With infra maintenance? 07:35:19 <ChoHag> I don't know? I asked the question first? 07:35:34 <V453000> I get to feel that was an actual asnwer 07:35:40 <V453000> n/s :) 07:35:43 <LordAro> ^ 07:35:45 <Supercheese> Well, d'you have infra maintenance on? 07:35:47 <peter1138> V453000, you left out the question mark? 07:35:49 <ChoHag> It had a question mark at the end. 07:35:57 <V453000> LOL peter1138 07:36:13 <ChoHag> Are we Australian today! 07:36:33 <V453000> all day 07:36:37 <Alberth> moin 07:36:47 <V453000> meow 07:36:56 <V453000> or woem, to be sufficiently backwards 07:37:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-91.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:37:17 <Supercheese> ÊoÇɯ 07:37:29 <Alberth> lol 07:37:30 <ChoHag> Anyway if you're referring to a togglable option I don't know because I'm been moved on to Thomas the Tank Engine books and the other computer is upstairs. 07:37:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-91.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:37:39 <ChoHag> Sorry: ? 07:38:31 <ChoHag> But if 'fuck me over with ridiculuosly expensive signals' is indeed an option, I mayy havre inadvetrantly turned it on. 07:38:52 <ChoHag> (Yeah I have one hand with which to type) 07:39:18 <Alberth> http://wiki.openttd.org/Advanced_Settings/Economy item 1.6 07:39:39 <Supercheese> "Infrastructure Maintenance" 07:40:10 <Alberth> the other option is that you have a cost modify newgrf loaded 07:40:21 <ChoHag> I checked for those. 07:40:23 <Supercheese> If enabled, it will charge a rather significant upkeep cost if you have many signals 07:40:43 <peter1138> Sounds designed to penalise V453000 07:40:52 <ChoHag> Apart from FIRS they're all superficial mods like station graphics. 07:41:03 <V453000> actually vice versa peter1138 07:41:05 * LordAro seems not to have gone to sleep yet 07:41:11 <LordAro> hmm, should do something about that 07:41:19 <V453000> it basically means that you need to get high train density :) 07:41:33 <Alberth> or less signals :p 07:41:39 <V453000> out of the question :P 07:41:50 <ChoHag> I usually do have high train density. 07:41:55 <ChoHag> Just not at frist. 07:42:05 <V453000> but yeah I never use infrastructure maintenance, no point in it 07:42:31 <ChoHag> So now I'm skint and had to eithrt cheat or wait an inordinate amount of time on hyperspeed. 07:43:00 <ChoHag> Well that depends on whether you consider there to be a point at all. 07:43:22 <peter1138> I've never played with it either, cos I never play :( 07:44:00 <ChoHag> I haven't played in ages but my daughter goes nuts about trains so I 'had to' start up again. 07:44:17 <V453000> I like going nuts 07:44:36 <Supercheese> nuts about NUTS 07:44:46 <Supercheese> are there even nuts in NUTS? 07:44:54 <Supercheese> food should be displayed as nuts 07:45:28 <V453000> nope 07:45:28 <ChoHag> Then I saw that the cargo distribution patch was mainlined, so I went all out trying to get some sort of realism. 07:45:45 <V453000> ooooh I also love realism 07:46:03 <V453000> my favourite part is making fun of it and insulting realism people 07:46:04 <V453000> :> 07:46:09 * V453000 is evil 07:46:29 <ChoHag> Indeed. 07:47:13 <ChoHag> Industries of the same type can be built close to each other with this patch on, it could cause problems though as you may end up with ten industries of one type in one small area of your map. 07:47:17 <ChoHag> wtf? 07:47:19 <ChoHag> Who said that's a problem? 07:47:56 <ChoHag> That's the way the world works. 07:48:07 <ChoHag> Coal mines, for example, tend to be clustered around where the coal is. 07:48:11 <ChoHag> Bit pointless otherwise. 07:49:46 <V453000> what difference would it make in the game if you have 3 close coal mines instead of one with triple production? ;) 07:50:03 <Alberth> realism, of course 07:50:33 <Alberth> otherwise, it looks like you're playing a game :p 07:50:35 <ChoHag> The difference is that there would be 3 coal mines instead of 1. 07:50:39 <ChoHag> That's .... the point. 07:51:08 * ChoHag sighs 07:51:08 *** germanoak [~germanoak@broadband-188-255-16-183.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 07:51:18 <ChoHag> Open sores and economics are not happy bedfellows. 07:51:25 <peter1138> Do industries still have a maximum production? If so, That'll be the difference between 1 and 3... 07:52:33 <peter1138> Silly gendarme... "Ensure local disposal" ... well I can't, that object's passed into a thread... 07:52:57 <V453000> peter1138: please count people in this room who get 2295 production often :P 07:53:29 <peter1138> People who press those little buttons ;) 07:57:28 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:04:31 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host180-136-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:05:20 <Wolf01> 'morning 08:05:28 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:09:17 <Alberth> moin 08:09:23 * Supercheese dormiturus est. 08:09:27 <Supercheese> Valete 08:09:30 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.159.76] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 08:11:43 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:17:21 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has joined #openttd 08:18:03 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:19:58 <planetmaker> moin 08:21:01 <Alberth> moin 08:27:01 <LordAro> /o 08:44:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A180D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:59:01 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.102.83] has joined #openttd 09:01:35 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.103.190] has joined #openttd 09:01:43 *** Sturmi3 [~sturmi@p4FEDDF5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:05:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-91.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:07:03 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.102.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:12:00 *** germanoak [~germanoak@broadband-188-255-16-183.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 09:21:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-91.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:22:15 * andythenorth is hoping hg branch merge is as painless as git merge 09:22:24 <andythenorth> otherwise it will be sad times later 09:23:08 <peter1138> Just use git :D 09:24:11 <andythenorth> git -> hg? :P 09:24:16 <andythenorth> there probably is one of those 09:25:34 *** Sturmi3 [~sturmi@p4FEDDF5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Sturmi3] 09:26:36 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:30:43 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:38:48 *** Sturmi [~Sturmovik@p4FEDDF5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:40:34 *** germanoak [~germanoak@broadband-188-255-16-183.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 09:41:44 *** Sturmi [~Sturmovik@p4FEDDF5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd [] 09:44:27 *** germanoak [~germanoak@broadband-188-255-16-183.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:46:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-91.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:46:26 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-91.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:55:25 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 09:59:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 10:00:09 <Ristovski> Just use git as peter said :D 10:02:11 <andythenorth> it's not a git repo :P 10:02:29 <andythenorth> I know I can shuffle things in and out of git, but my brain is too small 10:03:04 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: when you worked out the slice lengths table - are they just nice combinations, or are the lengths of each part tuned specifically to avoid graphical glitches? 10:03:26 * andythenorth is trying to be parsimonious with ids for the third part, and wants it to always be 1/8 :P 10:06:05 <andythenorth> I could get friendly with cb 36 :P 10:06:30 <andythenorth> and match 3rd part length to 1st part length 10:08:58 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:09:44 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:11:25 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: the parts shouldn't be too short because of my usage of curvature info 10:14:52 <andythenorth> makes sense. no effect in my set though 10:15:29 <andythenorth> more interestingly, nml has no implementation of var 62 afaict 10:15:43 <andythenorth> nah wrong var 10:15:46 * andythenorth looks again 10:15:53 <andythenorth> var 61 10:15:57 <andythenorth> obiwan :P 10:18:14 <andythenorth> can't use it in cb36 anyway, nvm 10:18:31 <andythenorth> I'll just consume more IDs, simple 10:27:24 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009128.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:28:26 *** germanoak [~germanoak@ppp79-139-253-97.pppoe.spdop.ru] has joined #openttd 10:39:20 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:42:17 <peter1138> Yeah, we can just increase the 65535 limit... 10:44:50 <peter1138> Okay, I looked at WCF and I got scared... 10:46:04 *** germanoak [~germanoak@ppp79-139-253-97.pppoe.spdop.ru] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 10:46:05 *** Sturmi [~Sturmi@p4FEDDF5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:46:20 <andythenorth> doesn't look that bad http://www.wcf.co.uk 10:46:20 <andythenorth> :P 10:46:41 <andythenorth> @calc 65535 / 3 10:46:41 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: 21845 10:46:41 <frosch123> oh, i commited a savegame version TODO again :p 10:46:55 <andythenorth> peter1138: don't bother, I can get by on 21845 unique vehicles, it's ok 10:47:47 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: articulated callback can only handle 16k IDs, not 64k 10:48:09 *** Sturmi [~Sturmi@p4FEDDF5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 10:48:18 <andythenorth> @calc 16000 / 3 10:48:18 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: 5333.33333333 10:48:20 <andythenorth> still 10:48:24 <andythenorth> more than enough 10:48:26 <andythenorth> :) 10:48:41 <andythenorth> is there not an 8192 limit for trailing parts? Did I imagine that? 10:51:59 <Eddi|zuHause> it's 14 bits 10:52:04 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25855 /trunk/src/saveload (afterload.cpp saveload.cpp) (2013-10-13 10:51:58 UTC) 10:52:05 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5788] (r25833): Obiwan messed up savegame conversion. 10:55:26 <fonsinchen> Somehow I don't have voice in #openttd.dev . Can someone fix that please? 10:56:36 <planetmaker> but via dorpsgek you could give yourself :-) 10:56:53 <planetmaker> :D 10:57:02 <planetmaker> yeah, sorry, typed in wrong channel 10:57:26 <peter1138> Pfft, that silly channel... 11:02:13 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:02:30 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:04:26 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25856 trunk/src/newgrf_industries.cpp (2013-10-13 11:04:20 UTC) 11:04:27 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Use Industry::TileBelongsToIndustry in one more place (cirdan, LordAro) 11:05:26 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25857 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-10-13 11:05:20 UTC) 11:05:27 <DorpsGek> -Codechange [FS#5783]: Add void goto type to indicate inactivity in order window (adf88) 11:06:11 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25858 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-10-13 11:06:05 UTC) 11:06:12 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5783]: Goto button in order window was not always lowered when it should (adf88) 11:07:04 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25859 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-10-13 11:06:58 UTC) 11:07:05 <DorpsGek> -Add [FS#5784]: Hightlight active goto item in order list dropdown (adf88) 11:07:58 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns154-93.york.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:07:59 *** Sturmi [~Sturmi@p4FEDDF5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:12:34 * peter1138 ponders updating some patches... 11:13:23 <peter1138> Heh, RGB company colours! 11:13:36 <peter1138> 32 rail types. 11:13:50 <planetmaker> road types! 11:14:00 <peter1138> Never! 11:14:12 <planetmaker> :-( 11:14:22 <peter1138> What would it add? 11:14:34 <peter1138> V453000, back me up here ;p 11:14:59 <Taede> e-road for thos electric buses? 11:14:59 <planetmaker> reason for HEQS. And easier implementation of road grfs. Thus better looks 11:15:05 <planetmaker> Not for realism sake 11:15:21 <planetmaker> it actually would already make sense when we only allow no additional road type :-) 11:15:27 <planetmaker> just from the GUI perspective 11:15:52 <planetmaker> not GUI. But possibility to replace roads via NewGRF 11:16:02 <planetmaker> as I then can draw roads w/o worrying about underground 11:17:45 <andythenorth> peter1138: main benefit of roadtypes imo is tram tracks without catenary 11:17:55 <andythenorth> is there another way to do that? o_O 11:18:00 <andythenorth> it's just a few bits? 11:18:15 <planetmaker> eh, just replace tram catenary by void sprites. Done 11:18:29 <andythenorth> I want both in a game :P 11:18:45 <planetmaker> that's an additional road type :-P 11:19:29 <andythenorth> road types ain't never gonna happen :D 11:20:03 <peter1138> Alright 11:23:00 <frosch123> just add an option to recolour the default road types 11:23:12 <frosch123> that's all that is being used abuot railtypes, isn't it? :p 11:23:21 <frosch123> rgb road types :p 11:24:36 <andythenorth> I'm pretty certain that the answer to roadtypes is to use railtypes 11:24:41 <FLHerne> Can we have canaltypes? :D 11:24:49 <andythenorth> canaltypes are railtypes 11:24:57 <andythenorth> strictly wetrail 11:25:28 * andythenorth is recoding FISH again btw, to be wetrail 11:25:38 <FLHerne> Wide/narrow/deep/shallow/towpath-fitted 11:26:06 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-34-54.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:27:57 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 11:28:00 <peter1138> No but yeah but no. 11:29:21 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:29:51 <andythenorth> FLHerne: ask V453000 11:31:46 <V453000> :) 11:32:18 <V453000> peter1138 RGB company colours were awesome :( 11:32:23 <V453000> where iz they 11:32:29 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.104.149] has joined #openttd 11:32:47 <V453000> roadtypes sounds useful 11:33:16 <andythenorth> for what? 11:33:19 <andythenorth> wetroads? 11:33:38 <V453000> having road newGRFs more universal in general 11:33:42 <andythenorth> meh 11:33:45 <V453000> dont want to mix them with landscape/bridges 11:33:47 <V453000> etc 11:34:19 <V453000> I suppose having more roads with different appearance in 1 game could be cute too 11:34:25 <V453000> e.g. dirt vs wetroad :P 11:37:13 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.103.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:37:45 <planetmaker> wetroad would make more sense than wetrails... needs no signals :D 11:38:01 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:39:51 <V453000> pffft :D 11:40:03 <V453000> go do it XD 11:40:27 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 11:41:11 <Eddi|zuHause> attention: driving side on wetroads must always be on the right, despite what road traffic side says 11:41:28 <V453000> ? :d 11:41:30 <V453000> why 11:41:57 <Eddi|zuHause> because ship traffic side is standardised on the whole world 11:42:03 <V453000> lol 11:42:06 <V453000> /care 11:42:08 <V453000> naptime, bay 11:42:22 <Eddi|zuHause> you MUST care about REALISM!!! 11:43:42 <frosch123> "naptime" is quite realistic 11:47:10 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has joined #openttd 11:59:28 *** antisorm [~id@37.140.123.223] has joined #openttd 12:18:38 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:22:51 <Belugas> i agree 12:23:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B618.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:23:12 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 12:28:13 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:33:28 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 12:36:54 <ntoskrnl> hmmm, are the three first GetObjectType(t) --> _m[t].m5 changes appropriate in r25833? 12:37:00 <ntoskrnl> http://vcs.openttd.org/git/?p=openttd/trunk.git;a=blobdiff;f=src/saveload/afterload.cpp;h=5f56b0a08e8ccedaa030e7ead6a341bd559f6937;hp=4643530aa4a5a0378a733eb394f9eb811c7de34b;hb=d9d978d6d2ec246fc59f794b62792c139055fadc;hpb=478500abbcb8f672fa0f5305d5b378c258b85687 12:38:00 <ntoskrnl> those if conditions are before the block that actually does the conversion 12:38:17 <ntoskrnl> wait 12:38:30 <frosch123> that's why m5 is used, instead of GetObjectType 12:38:37 <ntoskrnl> yeah, indeed 12:38:46 <ntoskrnl> nevermind, i was confused 12:39:29 <ntoskrnl> š 12:45:28 <andythenorth> hmm 12:45:47 <andythenorth> why don't I just put the cargo capacity on the second slice of each vehicle? 12:45:57 <andythenorth> instead of arsing around looking it up on the first slice? 12:46:50 <frosch123> for the purchase list 12:47:12 <frosch123> we still have no construction sandbox, which constructs artic vehicles in purchase list to get proper stats 12:47:20 <andythenorth> I can sum those from the consist I have 12:47:29 <andythenorth> special handling for buy menu 12:55:12 <andythenorth> meh 12:55:25 * andythenorth docs for articulated parts 'things that must be 0' 13:01:17 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:13:43 *** zydeco [~zydeco@24.75.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 13:13:56 <zydeco> greetings, comrades 13:15:04 <frosch123> hola 13:21:22 <zydeco> is it possible that the admin interface doesn't send date updates every day if the server is too busy? 13:22:04 <zydeco> I had this script that would save snapshots on day 1 of every month, but later in the game it has skipped a few 13:22:20 <zydeco> when it has near 2000 vehicles 13:22:53 <zydeco> I'll add some prints for next time 13:28:12 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25860 /trunk/src (fontcache.cpp fontcache.h) (2013-10-13 13:28:06 UTC) 13:28:13 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5737] (r25570): When clearing font cache, also clear layout cache. (adf88) 13:45:03 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25861 /trunk/src (3 files in 2 dirs) (2013-10-13 13:44:58 UTC) 13:45:04 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5760]: Scale linkgraph legend according to text dimensions. 13:49:51 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25862 trunk/src/widget.cpp (2013-10-13 13:49:45 UTC) 13:49:52 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5715] (r25729): Usage of implicit unsigned wrap around. 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<andythenorth> V453000: I have just spent an hour making firefox remove a 1 pixel border 16:43:54 <andythenorth> your problems ~= my problems :P 16:43:57 <V453000> LOL 16:58:06 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.88.137] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:59:21 *** DanMacK [~d83be456@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 16:59:32 <DanMacK> Hey all 16:59:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-91.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:01:00 <DanMacK> Wow, perfect timing lol 17:01:04 <V453000> :D 17:01:09 <V453000> CANT BE COINCIDENCE 17:02:01 <DanMacK> yeah, right :P 17:02:36 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:58 *** antisorm [~id@37.140.123.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:53 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:38 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:35:06 *** Pol 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terminated!] 18:39:59 <frosch123> V453000: they still did not start 18:40:08 <frosch123> but nani walked through the screen 18:40:10 <V453000> in a few minutes 18:40:11 <V453000> y 18:40:26 *** DanMacK [~d83be456@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:40:41 <V453000> im getting stuttering at Low :| 18:40:46 <V453000> and I dont think its at my end 18:41:34 <frosch123> it's never at your end 18:41:40 <frosch123> and the quality thing is nonsense 18:41:51 <frosch123> just try them all 18:42:03 <frosch123> it happens ery often to me that the higher quality is more smooth 18:42:28 <frosch123> i don'T see any logic there, just try which quality lever is the lucky one :) 18:42:53 <V453000> mhm 18:43:00 *** arand__ [~arand@nl116-226-21.student.uu.se] has joined #openttd 18:43:16 <V453000> lol the highest quality is a lot better 18:43:37 <frosch123> yup, that's often the case :p 18:43:58 <V453000> weerd 18:44:09 <V453000> I suppose it is because more people use the lower qualities 18:44:13 <frosch123> it's software. don'T ask for logic 18:45:48 *** arand_ [~arand@nl116-226-21.student.uu.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:46:30 <V453000> XD 18:46:36 <V453000> it might be nut infested 18:48:59 <V453000> btw see the chat explode over you cant win alone by yourself advertisement XD 18:49:01 <V453000> is awesome 18:49:41 <frosch123> you are reading twitch chat? :o 18:49:47 <frosch123> are you also in #tycoon ? 18:49:51 <V453000> no XD 18:50:02 <V453000> but I did read the chat when there was this advertisement as I wanted to see what they think about taht XD 18:50:08 <frosch123> i am using the tl embedded stream usually, cause i have all the important links left and right 18:50:20 <V453000> honestly there are only a few less useful things to read than twitch chat :-D 18:50:22 <frosch123> but, ok, you do not needs stats in the finals anymore 18:50:37 <V453000> meh dont care bout stats 18:56:18 <frosch123> btw. your "in a few minutes" is already 20 minutes ago 18:56:35 <frosch123> that's why i usually do not watch these big events 18:56:53 <frosch123> they have these waiting times, during which you cannot do anything really 18:58:22 <frosch123> let's try to make my checkout compile instead 18:59:04 <V453000> cd 18:59:06 <V453000> xd 18:59:16 <V453000> well I draw in the meantime so I dont really care about time :) 18:59:34 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@177.16.141.64] has joined #openttd 18:59:36 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@177.16.141.64] has quit [] 19:04:00 <V453000> LMFAO I WANT THAT HAT XD 19:04:17 <frosch123> tod's or from the map drawer guy? 19:04:31 <V453000> map drawer 19:04:39 <V453000> oh god this is awesome 19:04:54 <frosch123> what is it? 19:05:01 <frosch123> i cannot quite identify it 19:05:03 <V453000> OVERLORD 19:05:04 <V453000> :( 19:05:06 <V453000> :))) 19:05:11 <frosch123> oh! 19:05:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 19:05:45 <frosch123> yeah, now that i know it, it is cool :p 19:05:48 <V453000> ok christmas gift idea for friend is solved XD 19:06:08 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-33.york.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 19:08:03 *** Sturmi [~Sturmi@p4FEDDF5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 19:09:29 <LordAro> /o 19:09:49 <frosch123> that have not have been 18 hours 19:10:04 <LordAro> apparently not 19:10:16 <LordAro> but my body clock is completely screwed up at the moment :L 19:10:41 <frosch123> what kind of 24 hour live stream did you do? 19:11:38 <LordAro> lan party 19:11:48 <frosch123> what games? 19:12:07 <LordAro> tf2 and LoL, mainly 19:12:23 <LordAro> although i did see a few people playing ottd :) 19:12:28 <V453000> XD 19:12:39 <frosch123> hmm, it that the analogue thing to cs and bw in my youth? 19:14:11 <LordAro> (assuming cs == counter strike) people were playihng that too, although admittedly not the version you're probably familiar with :P 19:14:19 <LordAro> not sure what bw is though 19:14:35 <frosch123> likely :p 1.1 was the last one i played 19:14:41 <V453000> brooodwarrrr 19:14:58 <LordAro> oh, starcraft 19:15:04 *** lavalava [~non@81.163.235.32] has joined #openttd 19:15:18 <LordAro> yep, people playing that too, although it was likely version 2 ;) 19:15:30 <V453000> that isnt broodwar anymore :P 19:15:30 <frosch123> you call that hots 19:15:32 <frosch123> not bw 2 :p 19:16:01 <lavalava> hi all 19:16:24 * LordAro hasn't played sc at all 19:16:27 <LordAro> can you guess? :p 19:16:39 *** lavalava [~non@81.163.235.32] has left #openttd [] 19:16:47 <frosch123> sure 19:16:54 <frosch123> you wouldn't play lol otherwise :p 19:17:13 <LordAro> i didn't play lol 19:18:35 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25864 /trunk/src (5 files) (2013-10-13 19:18:30 UTC) 19:18:36 <DorpsGek> -Fix: Use the actual sprite dimensions for sizing the dropdown arrow of dropdown widgets. 19:21:39 <peter1138> Heh, I had patches to rework all that stuff to be consistent... 19:22:14 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:22:19 <peter1138> There are/were two different sets of arrows which are slightly different. 19:22:37 <peter1138> Depended if it was done as a text or sprite draw, heh. 19:24:31 <frosch123> i guess we need to do a game with forced biggui on everyone 19:24:36 <frosch123> to find all those broken places 19:24:47 <peter1138> And huge/tiny fonts. 19:24:53 <frosch123> and someone will have to play with arabic or hewbrew :p 19:24:55 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:25:21 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:26:15 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:26:36 <frosch123> i think roaches should not regenerate while borrowed and being shot at 19:26:46 <frosch123> like reapers or mutas 19:31:13 <V453000> mhm 19:32:51 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:32:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:33:57 *** ntoskrnl 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[Mortelugo@cpc14-nmal18-2-0-cust85.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:51:35 <JVassie> Could anyone reccomend a program for Windows that will take a true colour .png and allow me to save it out as an 8-bit .png that grfcodec will play nicely with please? 21:51:56 <LordAro> gimp usually does everything 21:52:35 <JVassie> I have the true colour png open in gimp as we speak 21:52:45 <Supercheese> Mode -> Indexed 21:52:54 <Supercheese> then you can download a palette 21:52:56 <Supercheese> lemme grab the link 21:52:59 <LordAro> ^ 21:52:59 <JVassie> ta 21:53:09 <Supercheese> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/documents/1 21:53:35 <Supercheese> ttd-newgrf-dos.gpl should be good for all newgrf purposes 21:53:47 <Supercheese> If you want to be sure to not accidentally include action colors, grab the noaction version 21:54:20 <JVassie> I tend to do my actual dev work in MS paint 21:54:22 <JVassie> :p 21:54:30 <JVassie> just need to convert it for now 21:54:36 <Supercheese> There's also a batch-convert gimp script 21:54:39 <JVassie> most of my sprite work is done 21:54:41 <Supercheese> for even easier conversion 21:55:35 <JVassie> DO i need to put the palettes in a specific folder? Can't seem to find a picker within the palettes window 21:55:51 <Supercheese> The palette picker is hidden, lemme see... 21:56:14 <Supercheese> Windows -> Dockable Dialogues -> Palettes 21:56:25 <Supercheese> Right click on the list -> Import palette -> from file 21:56:28 <Supercheese> rather buried :S 21:56:34 <JVassie> ah hah 21:56:39 <JVassie> was the right click menu i needed, thx :) 21:56:44 <Supercheese> Took me a while to find that 21:58:43 <JVassie> normal export settings for .png should work? 21:59:07 <Supercheese> I use older GIMP where I just save to .png, I hate the new Save vs. Export dichotomy 21:59:13 <Supercheese> but yeah, default should work 21:59:16 <JVassie> righteo 21:59:18 <JVassie> here goes :p 22:02:31 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-33.york.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:03:41 <JVassie> hmm, now complains it isn't a 256 colour file 22:03:42 <JVassie> >.> 22:04:23 <Supercheese> Make sure you didn't check "remove unused colors" 22:04:38 <Supercheese> Revert to mode->RGB, then back to mode->indexed 22:04:44 <Supercheese> uncheck that box 22:04:54 <Supercheese> (forgot to mention that) 22:05:25 <JVassie> ahh 22:05:28 <JVassie> removing unused colours 22:05:40 <Supercheese> you want to leave all 256 index entries 22:05:43 <JVassie> gotcha 22:05:50 <Supercheese> or else, as you see, grfcodec will complain 22:06:28 <JVassie> works a treat, ta :) 22:06:33 <Supercheese> :D 22:06:54 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:13:33 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:33 *** JVassie [Mortelugo@cpc14-nmal18-2-0-cust85.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:22:56 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 22:27:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:29:42 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:37:01 *** DanMacK [~d83be456@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:53:20 *** Bad_Brett2 [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:53:20 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:07:38 *** carpii [~carpii@cpc5-hart10-2-0-cust948.11-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:09:25 <carpii> i have a truck run which is sending goods from a factory to a town, but the town keeps changing from accepting goods, to not accepting goods every few months. 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