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Bus stop in front of me is there? Well I'll just go round it. 07:55:12 <ChoHag> Bus drivers, cunts real or virtual. 07:55:41 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.101.3] has joined #openttd 07:57:51 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.108.193] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:06:28 <LordAro> bus stops have a large pathfinder penalty 08:06:53 <LordAro> you'll want to set it to 'go via' if you actually want the bus to go through the bus stop 08:07:00 <LordAro> hmm, maybe 'go via (non-stop)' 08:07:01 <LordAro> not sure 08:11:01 <V453000> non-stop is for the other stations it pases through 08:19:15 <ChoHag> I want it to stop at the bus stops without having to click on every single one. 08:28:11 <V453000> then make an order without non-stop 08:28:21 <V453000> but yeah they wont go there if possible 08:28:41 <V453000> or - you would have to make 1way/closed roads in a manner so that the only escape path is through the stations 08:37:31 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:37:36 <MNIM> supercheese: well, latin already has names for magnetism and levitation, coincidentally enough quite similar to the english words. 08:37:38 <MNIM> http://latin-dictionary.net/search/english/magnet 08:39:32 *** Devroush [~dennis@182-4-145-178.mobileinternet.proximus.be] has joined #openttd 08:42:15 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 08:54:44 *** Devroush367 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:56:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D032.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:02:23 *** Devroush [~dennis@182-4-145-178.mobileinternet.proximus.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:12:17 *** zydeco [~zydeco@24.75.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 09:15:10 <zydeco> greetings, comrades 09:17:38 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.134.39] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 09:29:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D032.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:57:28 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 10:03:29 *** XaTriX [XaTriiX@229-53-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined #openttd 10:03:35 <XaTriX> hi' 10:04:16 <XaTriX> u know how to resolve LNK4009 errors on compilation ? (here vs2012, win8, set release x64, set library etc) 10:04:31 <XaTriX> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=68878&p=1100154#p1100154 errors : http://pastebin.com/Dgu94bsf 10:04:39 <XaTriX> i got an exe but it crash 10:05:05 <XaTriX> oh there .dev channel, sorry =D 10:05:27 <XaTriX> can i get voice on .dev channel plz ? :) 10:09:49 <planetmaker> this channel is fine 10:10:08 <planetmaker> .dev is for code reviews 10:10:16 <XaTriX> oh ok 10:10:36 <XaTriX> i solve the crash 10:10:45 <XaTriX> but how to solve lnk4009 ? 10:12:00 <planetmaker> Looks to me like you're missing some part of the ICU library. Or have a wrong version of it. 10:12:49 <planetmaker> or you're compiling on an OS where such ICU is not available / supported. E.g very old windows or osx on powerPC 10:13:09 <planetmaker> but I don't know windows and it's linker failure codes 10:14:17 <planetmaker> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/b7whw3f3.aspx 10:15:14 <planetmaker> but then, yours is only a warning, not an error. So... should work 10:16:12 <planetmaker> solve it by installing the development version of the icu library which contains the debug symbols 10:16:41 <XaTriX> may be some part of the project is still in debug 10:16:43 <XaTriX> i'll check that 10:17:02 <XaTriX> it work when deleting old openttd.cfg =D 10:19:05 <planetmaker> makes no sense. and a crash usually comes with the crash.log .dmp .sav and .png files 10:19:21 <planetmaker> so looking at those should shed light on the crash much more than linker *warnings* 10:25:27 <XaTriX> yeah i got crash log 10:25:40 <XaTriX> i think it comes from aa blitter on old cfg 10:27:10 <XaTriX> Crash reason: Exception: C0000005 Location: 000007F6AF7DEEB4 Message: <none> 10:32:15 <XaTriX> it crashed when i set "Calibri" on fonts :D 11:23:13 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:24 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:27:56 *** Nothing4You [N4Y@Nothing4You.w.tf-w.tf] has quit [Quit: Gone...] 11:30:03 *** Nothing4You [N4Y@2a01:4f8:a0:1461::10] has joined #openttd 12:03:25 *** antisorm [~id@37.140.101.204] has joined #openttd 12:11:55 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: ~ Tigeroo ~] 12:13:01 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:29:41 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:35:59 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:38:41 <LordAro> are tuples used in actual python code? or do people normally just use lists? 12:39:28 <zydeco> I wondered the same thing when I used python 12:42:28 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has joined #openttd 12:42:42 <LordAro> /o Zuu 12:43:35 <Zuu> Hello LordAro 12:43:50 <Zuu> Have you got some sleep by now? :-) 12:43:57 <LordAro> yup :) 12:44:05 <LordAro> i woke up in time for my lecture, too :) 12:44:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm imagining tuples have some speed optimisations that lists don't 12:45:03 <LordAro> possibly, but if you're using python, speed isn't your major concern, right? 12:45:37 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't mean it's ignored 12:48:16 <Zuu> Also sane speed via sane computation complexity is often very powerful. 12:49:12 <Zuu> Even if you got native code, if your algorithm is crap, execution speed will be hurt if your algorithm is bad. 12:49:22 <Zuu> (and you got lots of data) 12:49:45 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:04:25 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, like a newgrf that has more than 10000 lines :p 13:05:17 <V453000> which newgrf would have that many lines, the author would ahve to be stupid or insane 13:05:43 <Eddi|zuHause> sure :p 13:08:04 <Eddi|zuHause> besides, 10k LOC isn't that much 13:09:07 <V453000> I absolutely agree! 13:09:38 <Eddi|zuHause> CETS has about 3k LOC (in .py and .pnml files) 13:10:11 <V453000> well yeah but that is wtf 13:10:12 <V453000> . :) 13:10:21 <Eddi|zuHause> and ~1k in the engine table 13:11:10 <V453000> around 60k lines of code for nuts 13:11:32 <Eddi|zuHause> which results in 401049 lines in the nfo 13:11:42 <V453000> WITHOUT any python or other wtf :D 13:11:48 <V453000> XD well nfo... 13:12:26 <V453000> is nfo roughly the same amount of lines as nml would use? 13:12:30 <V453000> just for comparison 13:12:38 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i have 1281693 lines in intermediate nml, but that's looots of redundancy because the headers are repeated there 13:12:48 <V453000> ._. 13:12:58 <Eddi|zuHause> so that'S not a fair comparison 13:13:12 <V453000> looks just slightly holy shit 13:13:14 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, in earlier times nfo and nml had around the same lines 13:13:22 <V453000> y 13:13:30 <V453000> & later times? :) 13:17:23 <Eddi|zuHause> 341021 in pure nml 13:17:37 <V453000> cute XD 13:17:45 <V453000> how many sprites btw? 13:17:56 <V453000> if there would be the wtfmany views (24?) 13:18:08 <V453000> if if if 13:18:21 <V453000> 566489789999908456777 + 2 ? 13:18:22 <Eddi|zuHause> the sprites are sliced up and all 13:18:30 <V453000> ._. 13:18:32 <V453000> sliced up? 13:18:45 <Eddi|zuHause> 3 vehicle parts 13:18:55 <Eddi|zuHause> so they won't glitch in tunnels 13:19:06 <V453000> oh, nice idea 13:19:12 <V453000> articulating, or how is that done? 13:19:51 <Eddi|zuHause> so i have 3*8 for the "whole" view, then 3*8 for the "sliced" views, and 8 for GUI use 13:20:02 <Eddi|zuHause> per vehicle 13:20:07 <Eddi|zuHause> per livery 13:20:21 <V453000> + wagons 13:20:34 <V453000> nuts wagons are the hugest part of all 13:20:35 <roboboy> gnight peoples 13:20:37 <Eddi|zuHause> but all that is done automatically, you have only the 24 images in the template 13:20:52 <V453000> well yeah but people dont draw oh so automatically :P unless voxels 13:21:07 <Eddi|zuHause> cubicles!! :p 13:21:24 <V453000> or that, idk which it was 13:21:41 <Eddi|zuHause> don't use that, it's an in-joke :p 13:22:20 <V453000> obviously, I know, I was here when the idiot was presenting his top notch technology idea 13:22:39 <V453000> I just forgot if it was called cubicles or voxels 13:22:41 <V453000> or wat 13:24:13 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 13:29:06 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:29:50 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:33:56 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has joined #openttd 13:50:10 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 13:57:47 <ChoHag> My daughter's first computer has 2 things (that she can use): A calculator and openttd. 14:00:03 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:01:37 <peter1138> How old is she? 14:02:34 <V453000> doesnt matter, its openttd 14:03:22 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has joined #openttd 14:08:41 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:11:11 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.105.25] has joined #openttd 14:17:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D032.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:25:10 <ChoHag> 2. 14:25:33 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 14:26:37 <V453000> that is the perfect age to start with openttd 14:27:06 <ChoHag> She can work out what's on the screen, and she can scroll and zoom. 14:27:43 <ChoHag> As in, she can spot trains, buses, tracks, trees. etc. 14:29:11 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:37:40 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:52:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:03 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has joined #openttd 14:58:06 *** DanMacK [~d83be456@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:58:14 <DanMacK> Hey all 14:58:25 <Taede> ello 15:00:00 <zydeco> greetings 15:09:17 *** Sturmi [~Sturmi@p4FEDDEB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:09:39 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:23:32 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:23:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 15:29:01 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-11-153.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:06 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:43:51 <Eddi|zuHause> and what's the calculator for then? :p 15:45:06 <MNIM> calculating pocket allowances, duhhh. 15:48:53 <peter1138> Alright. 16:05:21 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:47 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has joined #openttd 16:20:51 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f532e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:29:25 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:30:02 <Wolf01> hello 16:32:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 16:32:48 <andythenorth> why is there no-one to blame? 16:32:56 <andythenorth> but I want someone to blame 16:32:59 <Wolf01> blame Sacro 16:33:43 <andythenorth> ok 16:34:15 <DanMacK> hey Andy 16:35:17 *** antisorm [~id@37.140.101.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 16:46:14 <frosch123> DanMacK: you are scaring him 16:46:45 <DanMacK> lmao 16:48:05 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:48:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:50:33 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:51:37 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:10:29 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:12:37 *** DanMacK [~d83be456@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:27:21 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3BA3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:32:36 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 17:41:00 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.101.3] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:43:19 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.101.3] has joined #openttd 17:47:00 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@187.58.121.148] has joined #openttd 17:48:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:50:48 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.48.28.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:50:51 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 17:51:53 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-65-85.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:57:02 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:57:36 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:57:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:00:02 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-65-85.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:20 <frosch123> someone know what roboboy means with "bmp" ? 18:03:29 <frosch123> or is it just a really messed up spelling of "nml" ? 18:05:04 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:39 <planetmaker> no clue 18:22:47 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:53 *** carpii [~carpii@cpc5-hart10-2-0-cust948.11-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:34:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:39:12 *** zydeco [~zydeco@24.75.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:39:51 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.159.76] has joined #openttd 18:40:25 <carpii> could i get voice in openttd.dev plz? 18:40:37 <peter1138> Just talk in here 18:40:47 <carpii> ok 18:40:57 <peter1138> Nah, ignore me. I just don't see the point of it :p 18:41:01 <carpii> i got openttd compiling on mac, was just looking for the simplest way to enable DEBUG output 18:41:18 <carpii> ah :p 18:41:22 <peter1138> ./configure --enable-debug or something 18:41:29 <peter1138> or not 18:41:30 <peter1138> no 18:41:47 <carpii> ah.. yes 18:41:59 <carpii> thanks. i was looking elsewhere 18:42:10 <peter1138> just ./openttd -d 255 18:42:19 <peter1138> or whatever level, or whatever feature. 18:42:33 <peter1138> Debug output is always enabled, heh 18:42:44 <carpii> 255 is a bitmask, or just a integer scale? 18:42:57 <peter1138> integer 18:43:00 <carpii> ok thanks 18:43:10 <peter1138> iirc 10 is the highest used 18:43:13 <peter1138> or even less 18:47:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D032.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:20 *** zydeco [~zydeco@110.72.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 18:59:30 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has joined #openttd 18:59:56 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:59:59 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 19:00:27 <Alberth> oin 19:00:34 <Alberth> +m 19:01:24 <LordAro> /o 19:03:17 <SpComb> -m 19:03:25 <Xaroth|Work> -e 's/mo/h/' -e 's/n//' 19:06:19 <Taede> Xaroth|Work: theres a pr open on loa2-github (granted its a minor change) 19:06:26 <andythenorth> one day 19:06:30 <andythenorth> everyone will stop smoking crack 19:06:49 <carpii> but that day is not today 19:06:55 <andythenorth> no 19:07:01 <Taede> how can those that have never started, stop? 19:07:12 <andythenorth> this is indeed a problem 19:07:14 <carpii> youd need to start 19:08:10 <andythenorth> specifically, one day 'web developers' will accept that inline styles are ok 19:11:38 <Alberth> chances are that may happen before the world gives up crack 19:12:48 <andythenorth> I don't think so 19:12:53 <planetmaker> moin 19:12:53 <andythenorth> too many blog posts got written 19:12:58 <andythenorth> too many stack overflow 19:13:05 <andythenorth> too many mailing list flames 19:13:10 <andythenorth> the world can never go back now :( 19:13:22 <Alberth> :( 19:13:33 <Alberth> let's throw away the www 19:13:36 <SpComb> just say No to inline styles 19:14:18 <andythenorth> winners don't do inline styles 19:15:09 <SpComb> ..except when it's javascript setting them dynamically 19:15:22 <SpComb> although even then you could just be using classes instead 19:15:46 * andythenorth just invented a system where javascript sets stuff dynamically 19:16:17 <andythenorth> for $each.foo, get a data attr, containing keywords, like 'padding-top=15px' 19:16:18 <andythenorth> etc 19:16:29 <andythenorth> absolutely in no way inline styles 19:16:36 <andythenorth> so completely allowed 19:16:58 <andythenorth> could be the way forward 19:17:02 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:17:16 <andythenorth> "but inline styles aren't semantic!" 19:17:28 <andythenorth> "they pollute your markup" 19:17:34 <Alberth> they have no meaning? 19:17:35 <andythenorth> "they add page load time" 19:17:41 <andythenorth> "they aren't maintainable" 19:18:01 * andythenorth is ranting 19:18:17 * andythenorth is the proud owner and maintainer of a stylesheet > 5000 lines long 19:18:22 <andythenorth> it doesn't even lint properly 19:18:28 <Alberth> It's alright andy, here have a cup of calming tea 19:18:42 <andythenorth> thanks 19:19:13 <carpii> at what point do advanced settings get saved (client ones, not in save file) 19:19:54 <Alberth> on exit of the program, I think 19:20:00 <carpii> ok thanks 19:20:08 <carpii> that explains a thing or two :) 19:21:13 <zydeco> you can get unexpected results when you have several instances open 19:21:59 <carpii> it was just because I was saving game, then CTRL-C from console :) 19:22:07 <carpii> assuming they get saved alongside the save game (but not in it) 19:22:43 *** paul777 [~paul@c-50-152-154-235.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:32:56 *** DanMacK [~d83be456@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:33:02 <DanMacK> Hey all 19:34:43 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-24-105-140-5.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:36:12 <Alberth> hi hi 19:50:10 <andythenorth> hmm 19:50:16 <andythenorth> mac finder is using 260% of CPU 19:50:19 <andythenorth> it's quite noisy here 19:50:26 <andythenorth> and my battery is going down insanely fast :P 19:51:06 <Rubidium> Houston, we got a problem 19:51:16 <Rubidium> ... oh... sorry, Houston is offline right now 19:52:06 <andythenorth> a view called 'all my files' is obviously a fricking stupid idea in a file browser :x 19:55:22 <frosch123> i think your mac is right in front of you 19:55:26 <frosch123> no need to search 19:55:49 <andythenorth> ta 19:55:51 <andythenorth> found it 19:55:59 <frosch123> yw 19:56:57 <carpii> Finder blows :p 19:57:11 <carpii> you might like PathFinder. Its awesome once configured 19:57:39 <frosch123> while there are also older guys around the pathfinders 19:57:44 <frosch123> you usually only join when young 19:58:27 <carpii> hrm? 19:58:52 <carpii> pathfinder osx app, not openttd pathfinders :) 20:03:22 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 20:03:37 *** kais58__1 is now known as kais58|AFK 20:03:37 *** paul777 [~paul@c-50-152-154-235.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #openttd [Leaving] 20:03:37 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@212.112.47.66] has joined #openttd 20:04:25 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 20:04:58 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58__1 20:05:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:09:38 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:08 <Xaroth|Work> Taede: working on it now 20:19:14 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3BA3.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 20:21:11 <Taede> adding the same import check to the other binfiles too? 20:23:59 <supermop> i haven't had any motivation to draw anything for about a year.... 20:24:18 <V453000> then you either drink too much, or not enough 20:24:24 <V453000> probably not enough (tm) 20:24:55 <supermop> haha 20:25:21 <supermop> not sure if i want to draw rails or houses or stations 20:25:33 <supermop> but i cant get as far as even opening photoshop! 20:25:35 <V453000> probably animals 20:26:10 <supermop> 4x zoom elephants as RVs 20:26:16 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@212.112.47.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:19 <supermop> capacity: 1 elephant 20:27:26 *** Tanguy [~tanguy@2a01:e34:ee8f:150:82ee:73ff:fe43:b876] has joined #openttd 20:27:34 <Tanguy> Hello. 20:27:49 <Tanguy> Just found out: *Airtaxi* planes. :-D 20:30:10 <Xaroth|Work> anybody remember what packet was changed yesterday? :o 20:30:44 <Xaroth|Work> ah, found it 20:38:50 <carpii> is there a reason statusbar text is hardcoded to light blue, as opposed to say, livery color? 20:38:59 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.105.25] has quit [Quit: Truly, the end of days.] 20:39:23 <Xaroth|Work> Taede: actually, that's not a typo 20:40:14 <Alberth> carpii: grey is so hard to read on a grey statusbar? 20:40:33 <carpii> well thats true :) 20:40:36 <carpii> but so is light blue 20:42:07 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 20:45:40 <Alberth> it's not important anyway, or you'd make it a full message :p 20:47:21 <carpii> i hardcoded it to yellow :p 20:47:47 <carpii> i was just wondering is all 20:49:53 <Taede> so it isnt, i just got thrown off by as ex, then e on the next line 20:50:29 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.121.148] has quit [Quit: client excited?? yes, it's a pleasure to use AdiIRC - http://www.adiirc.com] 20:54:37 <Xaroth|Work> :) 20:54:46 <Xaroth|Work> i fixed it for clarity 20:54:57 <Xaroth|Work> and some other minor fixes 20:56:18 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:57:42 <Taede> :) 20:58:19 <Taede> clarity is good 21:05:22 *** Sturmi [~Sturmi@p4FEDDEB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 21:09:06 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 21:10:35 *** kristal [~quassel@198-91-175-49.cpe.distributel.net] has joined #openttd 21:15:13 <frosch123> night 21:15:16 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f532e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:22:33 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.137.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:26:12 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:27:19 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 21:28:04 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:29:10 *** carpii [~carpii@cpc5-hart10-2-0-cust948.11-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: carpii] 21:29:26 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:50:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:41 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 22:09:25 *** Pulec [pulec@unaffilated.amunak.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:41 *** DanMacK [~d83be456@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:18:32 *** Pulec [pulec@unaffilated.amunak.net] has joined #openttd 22:19:42 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 22:28:55 *** kristal [~quassel@198-91-175-49.cpe.distributel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:26 *** zydeco [~zydeco@110.72.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Miscellaneous hardware exception error] 23:01:17 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-24-105-140-5.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 23:01:17 <Wolf01> 'night 23:01:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:04:14 *** Devroush367 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:27:16 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: ~ Tigeroo ~] 23:27:37 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:56:53 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd