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I'm looking at projects 09:47:20 <planetmaker> what do you have in mind, haeldb ? 09:47:38 <planetmaker> (I'm not quite sure what you actually look for) 09:47:40 <haeldb> just would like a list of different stuff. 09:47:48 <haeldb> keep my options open 09:47:50 <haeldb> to keep me busy 09:53:33 <planetmaker> list of... what stuff? OpenTTD has exactly one sound set. OpenSFX. There's two music sets to my knowledge. And a couple of NewGRFs which bring their own sound for some specific items which they ship 09:56:40 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opensfx/repository 09:56:52 <haeldb> Ty, Ill look into this 09:59:20 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:13:22 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 10:20:13 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-147-214-192.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:22:03 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-147-214-192.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:26:15 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 10:39:13 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-58-68.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:46:05 *** zydeco [~zydeco@17.76.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 10:55:51 <LordAro> converting date formats in windows. how to? 11:23:36 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.105.85] has joined #openttd 11:23:45 *** au [~au@4.59.10.31.omegatech.cz] has joined #openttd 11:26:25 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-147-214-192.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:27:46 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-147-214-192.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:28:42 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.96.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:52:07 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:45 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has joined #openttd 11:57:39 <zydeco> date formats? from what to what? 11:59:02 <LordAro> well, this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19424260/cmake-convert-date-format 12:10:43 <Jomann> can I change hotkey for chat history? 12:10:52 <Jomann> I can't press ^ in ma game 12:11:21 <planetmaker> have a look at hotkeys.cfg 12:11:37 <planetmaker> and the hotkey for history is usually the key left of 1 12:11:44 <planetmaker> not necessarily "^" 12:12:04 <Jomann> on my keyboard it is "^" :) 12:12:37 <planetmaker> depends a bit on which keyboard layout you choose, yes 12:13:30 <peter1138> Lies, left of 1 is Escape :D 12:13:40 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:13:48 <Jomann> it is german layout 12:15:38 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-248-51.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:16:22 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.248.51] has joined #openttd 12:17:13 <zydeco> windows doesn't have asprintf? 12:17:51 <LordAro> probably, but this needs to be done before compilation, i guess 12:18:02 <peter1138> These functions are GNU extensions, not in C or POSIX. They are also available under *BSD. 12:19:06 <planetmaker> Jomann, anyway, hotkeys.cfg knows it here as console = BACKQUOTE 12:22:06 <Eddi|zuHause> if it is a dead key, try pressing it twice 12:22:24 <Jomann> can I reread hotkeys.cfg ingame? 12:22:28 <Jomann> or needs restart? 12:22:40 <Eddi|zuHause> needs restart 12:22:43 <Jomann> I searched for chat, but console is much better :) 12:23:44 <Jomann> ty 12:23:56 *** au [~au@4.59.10.31.omegatech.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:36:00 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:36:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:36:32 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.110.135] has joined #openttd 12:36:48 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:40:11 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.105.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:16 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:52:56 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:09:59 *** bon [~46316b38@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:10:04 <bon> hi 13:11:23 <planetmaker> ho 13:12:31 <bon> what up to atm? 13:12:53 <planetmaker> the sky 13:15:38 <peter1138> Procrastination, dragonhorseboy. 13:31:09 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 13:35:39 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 13:36:56 *** DanMacK [~453f317e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:47:13 <bon> danmack you the one who used to draw canset? 13:47:38 <DanMacK> I am, yes 13:49:07 <bon> nice, used to play with it before. still wish the turbotrain had a better real life but....politics are politics! >_< 13:49:27 <V453000> ._. 13:49:48 <DanMacK> thanks 13:49:50 <DanMacK> yeah... 13:50:59 <bon> at least the via turbotrain lasted longer than the amtrak ones so...thats a small bonus point for photos ;) 13:51:14 <bon> v453000 what? :P 13:53:57 <bon> at least in the game I could run the turbotrain till they got too old :-> 13:58:08 <DanMacK> yeah, I missed out on the Turbos myself 13:58:25 <DanMacK> might have seen one but I'd have been too young to remember 13:59:17 <bon> I never saw one or as far as I can recall 13:59:37 <bon> did see at least two or more instances of the older yellow-nosed blue F units tho 14:00:25 <DanMacK> I miss the F's 14:01:32 <bon> http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/2/9/6/6296.1327179825.jpg :) 14:02:46 <bon> I sometimes like the photos of the earlier days where repaints were still in progress tho 14:03:07 <bon> nothing like seeing one single train that had a mix of CN, CP, and VIA pieces in a single consist 14:06:51 <Belugas> hello 14:06:52 <bon> anyway don't know how much you like to talk about these trains but I'm needing to afk for a bit now tho 14:06:58 *** bon [~46316b38@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 14:14:36 *** abchirk [~abchirk@e179072034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:14:36 *** Jomann [~abchirk@e179072034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:37 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:33:39 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has joined #openttd 15:01:37 *** DanMacK [~453f317e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:05:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A07F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:09:32 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15:41 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:15:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:42:17 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:50:31 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.105.49] has joined #openttd 15:53:18 *** treaki [~treaki@p4FF4BBCE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:20:12 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:23:57 *** DanMacK [~453f317e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 16:31:27 *** DanMacK [~453f317e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:35:42 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:35:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:37:13 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.59.224.51.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 16:39:05 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:47:14 *** Sturmi [~Sturmi@p57978471.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:58:52 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:00:44 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:00:45 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-231-171.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:05:48 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.98.241] has joined #openttd 17:06:30 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:03 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:07:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AFAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:08:33 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:22 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.110.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:14:44 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.103.3] has joined #openttd 17:18:52 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.98.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:25 *** DDR [~chatzilla@184.71.170.250] has joined #openttd 17:25:02 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-231-171.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:33 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:36:20 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.105.49] has quit [Quit: Truly, the end of days.] 17:46:45 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f44e0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:47:22 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:51:12 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:51:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:00:23 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 18:14:08 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:26 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 18:20:08 <planetmaker> hm. map generation operates as GM_NORMAL? Not GM_EDITOR? 18:20:27 <planetmaker> I'm quite surprised really 18:21:06 <planetmaker> not happily surprised at that 18:22:40 *** welshdragon [~mark-oftc@cpc1-oxfd20-2-0-cust78.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:22:46 <welshdragon> Good evening 18:24:03 <welshdragon> How long does local road reconstruction take? 18:24:14 <Pinkbeast> Few months, IIRC? 18:24:32 <welshdragon> hmm, with daylenth that couid be ages :s 18:24:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AFAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:25 <Pinkbeast> I don't know what the various daylength patches have done about it. I would guess a naive implementation keeps it a constant number of ticks. 18:27:15 <welshdragon> heh 18:28:05 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:28:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:29:54 <welshdragon> yeah, it's blocking access to my Bus Station :( 18:34:19 <frosch123> planetmaker: you likely want to use _gerating_world 18:34:22 <frosch123> not game mode 18:34:57 <planetmaker> but... why is _generating_world not GM_EDITOR? 18:35:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25869 trunk/src/lang/ukrainian.txt (2013-10-17 17:45:10 UTC) 18:35:17 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:35:18 <DorpsGek> ukrainian - 1 changes by Strategy 18:35:41 <planetmaker> that's a bit stupid, IMHO. It kinda acts weired on flags like OBJECT_FLAG_IN_GAME_ONLY and the editor equivalent 18:36:06 <planetmaker> to me the world gen feels like an automated scenario editor (which it is, if you automatically generate stuff in SE instead) 18:36:32 <planetmaker> catching the _generating_world additionally to GM_NORMAL compliates many checks really 18:36:59 <planetmaker> what would hurt to set GM_EDITOR during generation? 18:37:12 <zydeco> it sounds reasonable 18:37:45 <zydeco> the generator also runs the tile loop, would that run different if it's in GM_EDITOR? 18:37:58 <planetmaker> but thanks for the hint to _generating_world :) We have so many stuff... 18:38:06 <frosch123> planetmaker: you will likely break everything 18:38:10 <planetmaker> :D 18:38:11 <frosch123> the game might not even start 18:38:31 <frosch123> i wouldn't touch it :p 18:39:01 <frosch123> maybe you also want to use _current_company 18:43:38 *** Matulla [~chatzilla@95-89-97-51-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 18:43:58 <Matulla> hi all is there any indication to see trains piliing up at a junction 18:44:19 <Matulla> in som data screen 18:45:22 <frosch123> planetmaker: anyway, even _generating_world is toggled within scenedit 18:45:31 <frosch123> generally _generating_world refers to stuff done automatically 18:45:48 <frosch123> while GM_EDITOR is rather about humans doing stuff without company 18:45:57 <Pinkbeast> Matulla: I tend to watch the station list sorted by waiting cargo value. If the trains aren't getting through, it shows up there. 18:47:04 <Matulla> Pinkbeast: thanks on a large world with 200+ stations its not very accurate so only twice a year its getting listet train ist stock 18:48:26 <Pinkbeast> I'm not sure I follow you. No matter how large the world or how many stations there are, one that isn't getting any trains will fill up and rise to the top of the list rapidly. 18:48:50 <Pinkbeast> Additionally a train will (eventually) tell you when it thinks its lost. 18:48:55 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:34 <Matulla> agree i got about 350tiles to travel on this system and about 10 trains so first alot is getting on the road and all stuck at one time then its gone list in 18:59:52 <Matulla> i will try to solve that miss at the crap junction 19:00:03 *** Matulla [~chatzilla@95-89-97-51-dynip.superkabel.de] has left #openttd [] 19:02:55 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:05:52 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.248.51] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:06:07 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-248-51.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 19:17:14 *** DDR [~chatzilla@184.71.170.250] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 19:21:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:21:06 <andythenorth> meh 19:21:11 <andythenorth> just updated openttd 19:21:45 <andythenorth> don't use 1.1.5 19:21:55 <andythenorth> no we are not going to backport our grfs 19:25:48 <Alberth> oh, you tried the save game? 19:25:57 <Alberth> I was about to try it 19:26:02 <Alberth> hi, btw 19:26:42 <andythenorth> no 19:26:48 <andythenorth> I am ranting about the old ship thread nonsense 19:26:55 <andythenorth> here is better than offending some poor player :( 19:27:07 <andythenorth> probably with a good-but-badly-explained reason 19:27:22 <andythenorth> I didn't try the FIRS save 19:28:19 <Alberth> ok, it looks like a false positive, judging by the text of the post, but let's verify :) 19:28:37 *** au [~au@4.59.10.31.omegatech.cz] has joined #openttd 19:32:01 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.155.246] has joined #openttd 19:39:17 <Alberth> ok, just a clueless user 19:40:41 <andythenorth> :( 19:41:14 <andythenorth> I would actually rather have bugs :P 19:41:46 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g229109112.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:48:58 *** abchirk [~abchirk@e179072034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:51:11 *** aurora [~a@78-61-117-10.static.zebra.lt] has joined #openttd 19:52:47 <aurora> http://addland.blogspot.com/2013/10/amazing-dog.html 19:54:17 *** aurora [~a@78-61-117-10.static.zebra.lt] has quit [] 19:57:52 <frosch123> @ban *!*@*.zebra.lt 19:57:57 <frosch123> @op 19:58:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o frosch123] by DorpsGek 19:58:26 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*@*zebra.lt] by frosch123 19:58:28 <frosch123> @deop 19:58:31 *** mode/#openttd [-o frosch123] by DorpsGek 20:01:41 <LordAro> @op 20:01:45 <LordAro> aw 20:01:54 <Supercheese> @nope 20:02:16 <frosch123> hmm, some poor soul tries to enrich the grfspecs with examples, but they are wrong :( 20:03:40 <Supercheese> No voice at the .dev channel, so: For objects-at-mapgen, are they still built with view 0 always, or is that randomized? 20:14:09 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3833.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:20:33 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:26:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AFAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:26:15 <frosch123> will it be offending if i just rever the changes? 20:29:44 <planetmaker> hm... 20:30:12 <planetmaker> who's that guy/gal anyway? 20:32:48 <__ln__> Supercheese: btw, are you doing the translation offline, not in webtranslator? 20:33:37 <planetmaker> for esperanto? yes 20:33:45 <planetmaker> s/esperanto/latin/ 20:34:08 <planetmaker> you two want to share the work? :-) 20:34:38 <__ln__> i only started reading a latin textbook recently, i'm not qualified yet :) 20:35:10 <__ln__> and i'm not saying it should be done in webtranslator, i'm just interested to know whether the translation is viewable somewhere online 20:35:30 <planetmaker> there's no latin in the webtranslator yet 20:36:15 <__ln__> i notice the ancient romans copied the flexing of verbs from spanish! 20:36:39 <planetmaker> we only add new languages when there's a significant amount done; so that we don't have too many languages which are translated only marginally (few %) and receive also no further updates 20:38:12 <__ln__> makes sense 20:39:39 <andythenorth> frosch123: just revert with a nice friendly comment :) 20:40:52 <planetmaker> can the examples be corrected easily? I talk too little nfo to actually judge that 20:43:34 <LordAro> frosch123: you could fix the examples ;) 20:44:09 <planetmaker> also you could ;-) 20:45:31 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has joined #openttd 20:45:44 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host180-136-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:46:13 <Wolf01> hello 20:46:39 <Alberth> hi hi 20:47:25 <LordAro> planetmaker: no i can't, can't read nfo at all :p 20:49:16 <frosch123> LordAro: i fixed them today, but the wiki is not suitable for support questions 20:49:24 <frosch123> next time i'll probably revert 20:49:55 <planetmaker> it's also no tutorial :-) 20:50:07 <planetmaker> tutorial should be extra (and is) 21:03:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:06:10 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:35 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has quit [Quit: I'm using a Free IRC Bouncer from BNC4FREE - http://bnc4free.com/] 21:12:28 *** Sturmi [~Sturmi@p57978471.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 21:15:57 <Supercheese> __ln__: Yeah, offline translation, as pm mentioned 21:16:14 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 21:16:34 *** Haube1 [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 21:16:59 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [] 21:17:26 <Supercheese> I could post what I have so far if anyone's interested 21:17:37 <planetmaker> apropos Supercheese, I think I asked before, but can your sea swallows be used in GPL v2+, e.g. opengfx+landscape? 21:18:14 <Supercheese> They are a close derivative of copyrighted sprites, so I think not GPL-able 21:18:35 <Supercheese> well, presumably copyrighted, the company is defunct 21:18:48 <planetmaker> hm 21:18:50 <planetmaker> ty 21:18:58 <planetmaker> not what I hoped to hear :D 21:19:18 <Supercheese> I am not a sprite artist, I could never make gulls like that from scratch :\ 21:19:41 <Alberth> sure you can, it just takes a few years :p 21:19:46 <planetmaker> ^ :D 21:20:03 <Supercheese> Heh 21:24:48 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone know of a linux-y/KDE-y way to alert me to a process that ran on (near) 100% CPU for an extended period of time (like an hour) so i can decide to kill it? 21:25:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i've had multiple instances of vlc going haywire after i closed it, and the only way to notice it is listening to the CPU fan 21:30:09 *** welshdragon [~mark-oftc@cpc1-oxfd20-2-0-cust78.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:30:50 <frosch123> there used to be cpu load minigraph apps 21:30:59 <frosch123> for desktop or taskbar 21:31:14 <Alberth> xload & :) 21:31:51 <Alberth> good night 21:32:11 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:34:25 <NGC3982> I hate life. 21:35:52 <Supercheese> I hate Life too, they should call it the cereal that tastes like cardboard 21:55:34 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3833.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:02:31 <zydeco> delicious cardboard 22:11:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6AB41.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:12:04 *** zydeco [~zydeco@17.76.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Miscellaneous hardware exception error] 22:12:45 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25870 trunk/src/object_cmd.cpp (2013-10-17 21:22:39 UTC) 22:12:46 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Move placement rules for transmitter to its own function 22:15:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25871 trunk/src/object_cmd.cpp (2013-10-17 21:25:15 UTC) 22:15:22 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Move placement rules for lighthouses to its own function 22:16:10 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25872 trunk/src/table/object_land.h (2013-10-17 21:26:04 UTC) 22:16:11 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Add climate property to default objects 22:17:13 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25873 /trunk/src (newgrf_object.h table/object_land.h) (2013-10-17 21:27:08 UTC) 22:17:14 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Add property for the amount of generated objects upon map creation to default objects 22:17:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A07F.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:21:59 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25874 /trunk/src (newgrf_object.h table/object_land.h) (2013-10-17 21:31:53 UTC) 22:22:00 <DorpsGek> -Add: [NewGRF] NewObject property 0x10, bit 13 indicating that object amount scales with water content of map border (e.g. used for lighthouses) 22:22:17 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:22:30 <Supercheese> darnit pm, I just compiled OTTD 22:22:32 <Supercheese> ;) 22:23:19 <planetmaker> well. this will be available anyway only tomorrow, in like 17 hours. so... no loss :-) 22:24:50 <frosch123> yeah, only tomorrow 22:25:00 <frosch123> we will remove it afterwards again 22:25:01 <frosch123> :p 22:25:10 <planetmaker> :D 22:25:10 <Supercheese> :D 22:27:31 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25875 /trunk/src (3 files) (2013-10-17 21:37:25 UTC) 22:27:32 <DorpsGek> -Change: In scenario editor allow to build all objects which were available at any point in the past to support building scenarios with historic items 22:31:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25876 /trunk/src (object_cmd.cpp table/object_land.h) (2013-10-17 21:41:17 UTC) 22:31:23 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Unify object placement during map creation 22:32:04 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25877 trunk/src/newgrf_object.h (2013-10-17 21:41:59 UTC) 22:32:05 <DorpsGek> -Doc: A bit too much c&p in comment 22:35:45 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25878 trunk/src/newgrf.cpp (2013-10-17 21:45:40 UTC) 22:35:46 <DorpsGek> -Feature: [NewGRF] Object property 0x18 to allow specifying the number of objects of that type being placed upon map creation 22:35:55 <Supercheese> :) 22:37:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25879 trunk/src/object_cmd.cpp (2013-10-17 21:47:16 UTC) 22:37:23 <DorpsGek> -Change: Allow to remove unowned objects unless they have the 'unremovable' flag 22:37:34 <planetmaker> ^ also important. Or gameplay would suck tremendously :D 22:37:52 <Supercheese> Aye 22:38:13 <Supercheese> Hurrah for commit storms 22:38:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AFAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42:15 <frosch123> night 22:42:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f44e0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:42:45 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:43:10 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 22:43:56 <Wolf01> 'night 22:44:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:49:23 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 22:51:34 *** DanMacK [~453f317e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 22:51:45 *** DanMacK [~453f317e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [] 22:57:54 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:07:55 <planetmaker> good night 23:18:33 <Supercheese> http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-website-violates-licensing-agreement-copyrighted-software_763666.html 23:18:58 <Supercheese> Confirmed: Government hates GPL 23:20:05 <TinoDidriksen> I predict an overly sensationalistic story... 23:21:28 *** DDR [~chatzilla@184.71.170.250] has joined #openttd 23:21:50 <TinoDidriksen> Could be they are adhering to GPLv2 instead of 3-clause BSD. 23:22:16 <Supercheese> Gotta love licensing issues 23:26:39 *** Sara88 [~Sara@dynamic-adsl-78-14-186-198.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #openttd 23:28:58 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 23:33:55 *** Sara88 [~Sara@dynamic-adsl-78-14-186-198.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:36:06 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:16 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:46:35 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-253-81-174.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 23:48:45 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 23:50:53 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-147-214-192.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:58:45 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-24-105-140-5.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]