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04:31:16  <Supercheese> Here we go again...
04:32:36  <Eddi|zuHause> the same thing we do every night, pinky
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06:19:28  <Rubidium> no wonder the DDR fell...
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07:16:41  <Supercheese> If I set the OBJ_FLAG_ONLY_SE flag for an object, it seems to prevent it being built during mapgen. Removing the flag results in it being placed during mapgen as intended
07:17:00  <Supercheese> Although I am testing this with patched OTTD, I'll recompile clean trunk and try it
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08:11:46  <planetmaker> moin
08:12:09  <planetmaker> Supercheese, previous instances of the patch series might have behaved faulty
08:12:22  <planetmaker> especially with that kind of logic :-)
08:13:02  <Supercheese> I'll recompile clean and test again
08:18:09  <Supercheese> Same problem :S
08:20:01  <Supercheese> The objects also seem to not obey the tile_check callback
08:21:32  <Supercheese> Err, disregard last statement
08:23:31  <Supercheese> Still, setting the OBJ_FLAG_ONLY_SE flag prevents objects from being built at mapgen
08:26:05  <planetmaker> what about OBJ_FLAG_ONLY_IN_GAME?
08:27:47  <Supercheese> That also suppresses mapgen building
08:28:18  <Supercheese> Remove it and it works as intended
08:30:21  <planetmaker> I'm surprised, Supercheese, as the default objects (lighthouse, transmitter) also have the flag
08:31:14  <Supercheese> Well, I'm only changing the one flagin the nml file...
08:31:18  <Supercheese> flag in*
08:31:44  <Supercheese> Maybe nmlc is freaking out
08:31:49  <planetmaker> yes... I see where I missed to add the check for _generating_world
08:31:52  <planetmaker> no
08:31:56  <Supercheese> ah, or not :)
08:33:13  <planetmaker> thanks for testing and noticing :-)
08:33:23  <Supercheese> libenter ;)
08:35:20  <planetmaker> Supercheese, try http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/fix_custom_obj_placement.diff
08:36:09  <Supercheese> compiling
08:36:34  <planetmaker> hm, might still not suffice
08:36:41  <Supercheese> oh
08:36:45  <Supercheese> should I abort compile?
08:36:49  <planetmaker> no
08:36:56  <Supercheese> k
08:37:05  <planetmaker> can't take ages, if it's only that patch :-9
08:37:23  <planetmaker> and a slight change then would compile very quick
08:37:32  <planetmaker> ly
08:38:06  <Supercheese> The "generating code" phase seems to take the same time for a small change or large change, and that's the bulk of the compile time
08:38:23  <Supercheese> still only takes a minute or so
08:38:38  <planetmaker> that's still long
08:38:49  <Supercheese> but as andy can attest, sometimes 45 sec compiles are infuriatingly long :P
08:38:56  <planetmaker> ^
08:40:01  <Supercheese> OBJ_FLAG_ONLY_SE flag set, still nothing at map gen
08:40:40  <Supercheese> Flag removed, everything's happy again; same story :S
08:40:58  <planetmaker> the next two lines also need some amendment
08:44:09  <planetmaker> updated patch
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08:44:27  <planetmaker> hm, will fail :D
08:44:34  <Supercheese> O_o
08:45:08  <planetmaker> compile fixed
08:45:11  <planetmaker> updated again
08:45:32  <LordAro> /o
08:46:32  <planetmaker> hi lobster
08:46:36  <planetmaker> hm... LordAro :D
08:46:43  <planetmaker> faulty tab completion :-)
08:46:48  <LordAro> you always do that :p
08:47:06  <planetmaker> yeah. bad alphabetical sorting order
08:47:18  <planetmaker> you should call yourself LoardAro
08:47:40  <LordAro> :p
08:47:59  <LordAro> it's already bad enough that i picked a username with a space in it
08:48:06  <planetmaker> space?
08:48:09  <LordAro> most of the internet doesn't like spaces
08:48:12  <LordAro> ' '
08:48:21  <planetmaker> I see no space in your nick here ;-)
08:48:32  <LordAro> precisely ;)
08:50:03  <planetmaker> Supercheese, does current version work?
08:50:28  <Supercheese> testing now...
08:51:06  <LordAro> Poll: which version of mercurial do you have, and on what distro?
08:51:27  <planetmaker> 2.7 on debian7; 2.7 on osx10.6
08:51:59  <planetmaker> oh, and 2.7 on suse 12.2 :D
08:52:11  <planetmaker> http://hgweb.openttdcoop.org/pm-openttd/graph ^
08:52:14  <Supercheese> Still nothing at mapgen :(
08:53:11  <Supercheese> My main reason for trying to get ONLY_SE objects at mapgen in the first place was to have different placement criteria for mapgen objects vs. player-placed objects
08:53:37  <Supercheese> I first tried adjusting the tile_check callback to check for owner, but that didn't work out
08:54:47  <Supercheese> anyway, it's past 1 AM, I need to sleep now, I'll test more tomorrow, thanks for trying to fix :)
08:55:15  <planetmaker> well, I think the thing is in those 4 lines. I might toy around later today, not now though. work work
08:55:23  <Supercheese> valete
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08:55:33  <planetmaker> sleep well :)
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13:02:52  <DanMacK> hey all
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13:10:28  <tigeroo> hey
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13:17:00  <DanMacK> @seen andythenorth
13:17:00  <DorpsGek> DanMacK: andythenorth was last seen in #openttd 16 hours, 37 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <andythenorth> frosch123: just revert with a nice friendly comment :)
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14:13:14  <adf88> Hi to everyone
14:13:26  <adf88> I was told to ask for "voice" here
14:13:38  <adf88> so I can chat on the .dev channel
14:13:49  <adf88> can anyone help me?
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14:16:07  <LordAro> planetmaker: ^
14:16:32  <LordAro> adf88: you should get it by default imo
14:16:56  <LordAro> but i think that requires some fancy magic with chanserv, and i don't know how the devs have got it set up
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14:17:49  <adf88> this way would be convenient to mee of course
14:17:55  <adf88> :)
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14:21:54  <Belugas> hello
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14:33:29  <LordAro> adf88: since no one seems to be around, and this channel is quiet, you can probably just say stuff here
14:34:17  <adf88> well
14:34:20  <adf88> I can wait...
14:34:24  <adf88> anyway
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14:45:12  <Xaroth|Work> adf88: just ask already :P
14:47:15  <peter1138> .dev channeli is pointless
14:47:52  <peter1138> channeli?
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14:50:09  <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: have you been to switzerland for an extended period of time? :p
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14:51:43  <peter1138> No, never :p
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16:13:46  <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25880 trunk/src/object_cmd.cpp (2013-10-18 15:23:41 UTC)
16:13:47  <DorpsGek> -Fix (r25875): Special rules for world generation needs be considered in one more place
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17:02:30  <tigeroo> wish it was easier to convert roads into streetcar tracks or perhaps make universal roads and/or road vehicles
17:03:29  <tigeroo> similar to the train conversion button
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17:10:18  <planetmaker> tigeroo, ever considered to build tram tracks *on* roads?
17:10:53  <juzza1> its not really a conversion, isn't it
17:15:56  <planetmaker> indeed not
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18:21:50  <Alberth> hihi
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18:27:04  <Wolf01> hihi
18:29:31  <Alberth> hi
18:35:14  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25881 trunk/src/lang/turkish.txt (2013-10-18 17:45:07 UTC)
18:35:15  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:35:16  <DorpsGek> turkish - 4 changes by wakeup
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19:32:24  <Supercheese> Huzzah, OBJ_FLAG_ONLY_SE objects now placing during mapgen
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19:50:57  <tigeroo> what I meant was being able to build the tram tracks on the roads but do it the same as trains where you have conversion button so you can highlight and convert all roads you would like to at once instead of sections
19:51:58  <Supercheese> What if you only wanted to build tram tracks on half of the road?
19:52:07  <Supercheese> the convert tool would not be able to tell that
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20:33:05  <andythenorth> @seen danmack
20:33:05  <DorpsGek> andythenorth: danmack was last seen in #openttd 7 hours, 16 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <DanMacK> @seen andythenorth
20:33:09  <andythenorth> heh
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21:23:40  <Wolf01> andythenorth, seenception
21:23:50  <andythenorth> :P
21:38:44  <frosch123> night
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23:05:21  <Wolf01> 'night
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