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HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6C024.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:57:16 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:57:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:57:20 <andythenorth> moin Alberth 09:57:32 <Alberth> hi hi 09:59:09 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:11:33 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 10:25:55 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:30:09 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:30:49 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.142.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:30:55 *** Ristovski [~rafael@89.205.3.77] has joined #openttd 10:32:59 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:34:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 10:36:32 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.142.152] has joined #openttd 10:41:11 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@torland1-this.is.a.tor.exit.server.torland.is] has joined #openttd 10:43:29 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:55:10 <robotboy> hello 10:55:56 <robotboy> LordAro, I hope you didn't take the pm I sent you yesterday seriously :P 10:56:08 <LordAro> i guessed so :p 10:56:25 <LordAro> wasn't extremely clear though ;) 10:57:48 <robotboy> I personaly think you are the type of user that will never get a pm like that in the future 11:01:52 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:03:47 <LordAro> ah, but i have in the past though :L 11:04:00 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.241.249] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04:34 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-241-249.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 11:10:01 <robotboy> aw 11:10:08 * robotboy has a looksie 11:11:20 <LordAro> :p 11:11:42 <LordAro> i'm not especially proud of my warning from yexo 11:12:15 <planetmaker> that must be some time ago... 11:13:38 <LordAro> yup 11:13:53 <LordAro> :( 11:13:58 <LordAro> @seen yexo 11:13:58 <DorpsGek> LordAro: yexo was last seen in #openttd 48 weeks, 0 days, 21 hours, 7 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <Yexo> <NGC3982> The station glitches are CHIPS related. I adressed it to Andy the other day, and it seems like it's b0rked in some way. <- it's still in the issue tracker for CHIPS, but I haven't had time to look at it yet 11:14:24 <planetmaker> that statement still is true, though :( 11:14:36 <LordAro> :/ 11:14:57 <planetmaker> *poof* and gone 11:15:21 <robotboy> 3 years ago. 11:15:22 <planetmaker> a serious case of RL 11:15:37 <LordAro> iirc, someone said he was still active, but not here :( 11:15:58 <planetmaker> well. Not anywhere in TTD land 11:16:02 <robotboy> I feel ashamed when looking at some of my first posts :P 11:16:17 <planetmaker> at least no-where I know. 11:16:43 <robotboy> but I have learnt my way around the TT world since then 11:16:50 <planetmaker> :-) 11:17:03 <LordAro> yes, and yes 11:17:50 <LordAro> still no idea what i did before i found this :) 11:18:08 <planetmaker> nearly 6 years since I joined tt-f: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=639920#p639920 11:18:15 * robotboy should realy learn m4nfo and do some work on the Thomas the Tank Engine set 11:19:45 <planetmaker> doesn't NML 0.2.x work for TTDP? 11:23:38 <robotboy> nope. ID's are in extended format and no TTDP version can read them 11:24:29 <robotboy> that is on the wishlist for 2.6 (for the range of IDs that TTD can use) once 2.5 gets released 11:24:55 <Alberth> sounds somewhat bug-ish? 11:25:10 <robotboy> for TTDP or NML? 11:25:34 <Alberth> iirc NML 0.2 was intended for TTDP compatibility 11:25:51 <robotboy> hmm, I will double check my NML version 11:26:39 <andythenorth> hmm 11:27:03 <andythenorth> have you provided Kamnet with newgrf usage stats from *within* ottd? :o 11:27:18 <andythenorth> I didn't know we'd implemented a 'phone-home' API :o 11:27:53 * Alberth didn't know either 11:28:16 <LordAro> /o andy 11:28:26 <andythenorth> well he has a list of the most popular grfs 11:30:01 <andythenorth> note to self: don't reply to that thread :| 11:32:01 <andythenorth> oops 11:32:05 * andythenorth will regret that 11:34:05 *** KouDy_ [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 11:34:05 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:35:48 <planetmaker> andythenorth, no. I actually would like such stats, too :-) 11:36:22 <planetmaker> going by forum postings / irc - I recon your judgement wrt ukrs is quite right, andythenorth 11:36:41 <planetmaker> not sure about ships. Popular is what people find. And that is FISH 11:37:02 <andythenorth> I just looked at Bananas 11:37:02 <planetmaker> only other ship set I'd consider is sailing ships. And they're complementary 11:37:05 <andythenorth> it's the only stat we have 11:37:09 <andythenorth> the rest is conjecture 11:37:15 <planetmaker> and stations: ISR has IMHO a *very* huge lead 11:37:20 <planetmaker> then all others come 11:38:51 <robotboy> IN NML should introduction_date: date(1997,01,01); introduce a bus by 1 january 1998? 11:39:22 <planetmaker> depends on when you start your game 11:39:43 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 11:40:19 <planetmaker> starting 1996, 1997 or 1998 might give you that result 11:40:55 <andythenorth> depends on the 17-year randomisation thing too 11:41:00 <andythenorth> (I think it's 17) 11:41:24 <planetmaker> actually quite wrong what I said. Starting in 1996, 1997 or 1995 will NOT give you that result. Other starting dates might 11:41:41 <planetmaker> starting dates vary by 0 ... 2 years ingame 11:41:42 <robotboy> I started in 1950 at the earliest 11:41:58 <robotboy> and cheated to 1998 11:42:01 <planetmaker> and it's a game thing. which also TTD does 11:43:14 <robotboy> weel no vehicle got created in 1998 in TTDP. Now to check OpenTTD 11:44:37 <planetmaker> TTDP would likely have the same 2 year random range for introduction 11:45:01 <planetmaker> 0 ... 2 years added to introduction date is wanted. By the game. And out of the hands of newgrfs 11:45:47 <robotboy> I shall double check TTDPatch by choosing 1999 11:46:00 <planetmaker> you might get another date... It's random. Per game 11:46:39 <planetmaker> as long as the introduction date up to two years after newgrf-defined one, that's normal 11:46:44 <planetmaker> can be 0. can be 2 11:46:50 <planetmaker> decided upon map generation 11:47:04 <planetmaker> do the same in openttd again, you might get 1997. or 1999 11:47:10 <planetmaker> or again 1998 11:47:47 <robotboy> No vehicle by 1999 in TTDPatch. I got it in OpenTTD 11:48:12 <robotboy> TTDPatch doesn't show any GRF loading errors at the title screen 11:48:14 <planetmaker> well, you can check the nfo. NML does even have nfo output 11:48:22 <planetmaker> nmlc --nfo file.nof file.nml 11:48:33 <planetmaker> *nof nof* :D 11:48:46 <robotboy> I think I shall post my full nml file to the NML thread 11:49:11 <peter1138> nof? 11:49:15 <robotboy> I have other issues to sort out after this 11:52:23 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 11:54:57 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 11:56:10 <robotboy> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=48891&p=1102236#p1102236 12:06:35 <planetmaker> robotboy, and if you compile https://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2771/ with grfcodec it works for you? 12:07:03 <planetmaker> hm, line 19 should start with 3 * 46 12:09:17 <robotboy> is that the nfo output of nmlc for my nml file? 12:09:37 <robotboy> I see it is 12:10:22 <planetmaker> no, it's not. It's using a byte-size ID instead of word-size 12:10:38 <robotboy> ok 12:13:21 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 12:14:18 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:14:41 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 12:18:17 <robotboy> hmm, I can't seem to work out how to use grfcodec. I think I am supossed to specify grfcodec -e main.grf in the folder containing main.nfo and main.grf? 12:19:38 <planetmaker> you could use grfcodec -e main.grf . 12:19:41 <planetmaker> mind the "." 12:19:47 <planetmaker> if you place the nfo alongside the nml 12:21:32 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/main.grf 12:22:48 <robotboy> aha. Got it to work. Now to run TTDP 12:24:10 <planetmaker> right, so that's the crucial thing. Good to know 12:24:15 <robotboy> TTDP gives me a wrong .grf version error 12:24:33 <planetmaker> oh, yeah. I didn't use nml 0.2 12:24:40 <robotboy> and of course OpenTTD for comparison 12:24:42 <planetmaker> :D 12:24:57 <planetmaker> stupid me 12:25:03 <robotboy> hehe lol 12:25:27 <robotboy> you mean to generate the nfo? 12:25:39 <planetmaker> yeah. But the difference doesn't exist 12:25:43 <planetmaker> except in grf version 12:26:12 <planetmaker> sprite 2 declares grf version. Change it to 2 * 141 08 07 ... 12:27:06 <planetmaker> I also updated the grf file in the link 12:31:21 <robotboy> Invalid Sprite #3 (Code 4/7) is what TTDPatch gives me with the GRF from your link 12:31:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:32:24 <robotboy> OpenTTD gave me Unknown Action 0 property 0x5(Sprite 3) 12:32:37 <robotboy> that was on map generation 12:36:33 <planetmaker> yeah, I can't write nfo 12:37:06 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@8JQAAB9CJ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 12:37:26 <planetmaker> delete the FF in the first line of sprite 3 12:37:30 <planetmaker> grf updated 12:39:09 <robotboy> That should be line 19 12:39:38 <robotboy> ? 12:41:07 <planetmaker> yeah 12:41:53 <robotboy> and change the number of bytes as well 12:42:57 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 12:46:03 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc929.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:46:26 <Alberth> hi hi 12:46:43 <planetmaker> yeah 12:47:14 <robotboy> in TTDPatch I get the foster bus introduced in 1986 but not my bus. No Foster bus or my bus in OpenTTD both game started around 1950 and cheated to 1999 12:47:29 <robotboy> no loading errors from either platform 12:48:48 <LordAro> /o frosch123 12:48:57 <robotboy> hello Alberth 12:49:39 <Alberth> unexpected person responded, but hi too :) 12:50:14 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.142.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:55:10 <frosch123> moin everyone :) 12:55:10 <robotboy> was playing with NML and then nfo to get a GRF to work on both platforms :) 13:03:42 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.142.152] has joined #openttd 13:13:23 <robotboy> planetmaker, I think we should put nml and nfo down for the night. I may have a look at it tomorrow again if you have time to look at it any further 13:17:30 <planetmaker> k. If that code doesn't compile I really don't know 13:17:39 <planetmaker> especially w/o errors ;-) 13:18:14 <robotboy> It compiles without errors from grfcodec or both platforms 13:18:59 <robotboy> I think I will post the NFO in the NML thread 13:19:11 <robotboy> I will look again in the morning 13:21:37 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.155.246] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:22:07 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.155.246] has joined #openttd 13:25:38 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:26:45 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 13:37:28 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:55:58 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 13:58:52 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:01:39 <Eddi|zuHause> <robotboy> hmm, I can't seem to work out how to use grfcodec. I think I am supossed to specify grfcodec -e main.grf in the folder containing main.nfo and main.grf? <-- by default, grfcodec tries to get the .nfo from the "sprites" subdirectory, so the "." is necessary for saying "use this directory 14:02:14 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.100.26] has joined #openttd 14:10:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 14:11:53 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:11:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 14:17:14 <robotboy> aha even though I sorted it earlier 14:17:35 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-16-94.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:28:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i read that it worked the, i just wanted to give an explanation why 14:37:33 <robotboy> thank you 14:45:10 <frosch123> paths are kind of tricky with grfcodec 14:45:35 <frosch123> for some reason it resolved path in the nfo file relative to the working dir, and not relative to the nfo file 14:50:09 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:48 <andythenorth> hmm 14:53:58 <andythenorth> I can pass a method around in python, right? 14:54:11 <Alberth> yes 14:54:50 <andythenorth> I probably shouldn't though 14:54:56 <Alberth> as part of an instance though, ie a = self.myfun a() 14:55:11 <andythenorth> passing methods as parameters to other methods is not fun to debug :) 14:55:18 <andythenorth> I am going to find an alternative 14:55:41 * peter1138 delegates andythenorth to delegating the delegates. 14:55:45 <Alberth> depends on your taste of fun, but it's challenging :) 14:55:48 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.142.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:55:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i use functions of higher order in CETS 14:55:53 <andythenorth> peter1138: thanks :) 14:56:08 <Eddi|zuHause> in the for_all_vehicles function i pass a function as parameter 14:57:31 <Eddi|zuHause> but the same thing can be done using object oriented programming 14:57:56 <Eddi|zuHause> as the object basically is a set of functions passed along with the data 14:58:04 <robotboy> gnight peoples 14:58:13 <Alberth> gn robotboy 14:58:28 <Eddi|zuHause> so you should probably be asking a different question altogether 14:58:51 <andythenorth> explaining the case would take a long time relative to the value of the answer :) 14:58:52 <Eddi|zuHause> which problem am i trying to solve, and what's the most elegant/maintainable/simple solution 14:59:43 <Eddi|zuHause> if your problem is too large to explain, you need to look for a different problem to solve :p 14:59:59 <andythenorth> I am trying to avoid bother declaring a property (simplest option), or having too many classes (too many classes), or having spaghetti objects with lots of 'if / else' checking flags (meh) 15:00:24 <andythenorth> it is not a very interesting problem 15:00:43 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to read a book on design patterns 15:01:08 <andythenorth> that's probably the worst thing I could do :) 15:01:37 <andythenorth> I would start trying to apply inappropriate patterns 15:01:47 <andythenorth> just to see if I could 15:03:12 <andythenorth> the nicest way to do this would be a mixin 15:03:28 * andythenorth goes away again 15:06:11 <andythenorth> or a simple subclass :P 15:06:21 <andythenorth> does a kitten die if I create another subclass? 15:08:18 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:11:07 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g231085084.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:11:07 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@g231204207.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:14:59 <Eddi|zuHause> again, i think you're asking the wrong question 15:15:56 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 15:20:20 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:22:18 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 15:31:09 <andythenorth> think of the kittens though... 15:31:37 <Alberth> yes! no more subclasses! ever! 15:31:59 <Alberth> (hmm, the world may get overrun with kittens now :( ) 15:32:30 <Eddi|zuHause> don't the romanians have that problem with dogs currently? 15:40:47 *** zydeco [~zydeco@77.225.104.56] has joined #openttd 15:49:41 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 15:53:17 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: so what question would you ask yourself? o_O 15:53:25 <andythenorth> other than 'why is there a cat on my keyboard again?' 15:53:45 <Eddi|zuHause> my cats try to avoid stepping on the keyboard 15:54:52 <andythenorth> are they just polite, or did you teach them? 15:59:33 * andythenorth baby things, bbl 15:59:34 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:04:58 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-35-186.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:09:09 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:14:56 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:23:45 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:25:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:10 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 17:00:03 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:00:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 17:03:09 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-35-186.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:11:45 *** mouse4334 [mouse4334@b.clients.kiwiirc.com] has joined #openttd 17:22:24 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 17:27:01 <mouse4334> I'm a total openttd newbie. (I've done the tutorial though.) Is there someplace I can find a multiplayer game where I can cooperate with someone to help show me the ropes? 17:27:23 <mouse4334> openttdcoop.org maybe? 17:27:49 <Taede> the coop welcome server would be a good one yes 17:29:33 <mouse4334> ok trying that 17:29:44 <mouse4334> all the companies have passwords do I create my own? 17:30:24 <Taede> yup 17:30:59 <Taede> or just watch and see what the others are doing 17:31:11 <Taede> either way, ask questions, try stuff 17:35:42 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:36:23 <mouse4334> thanks taede I'll ask further questions in-game 17:49:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C024.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:52:26 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-116-43.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:56:33 *** mouse4334 [mouse4334@b.clients.kiwiirc.com] has left #openttd [] 17:56:40 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:32:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:32:44 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 18:35:20 <andythenorth> ooh, super evil, I could call eval() on a string :x 18:35:30 <andythenorth> maybe not :P 18:37:44 <Eddi|zuHause> god kills ALL kittens if you do that 18:38:42 <andythenorth> if you do it on input from a web form, god kills ALL kittens twice 18:38:46 <andythenorth> and makes you watch 18:41:58 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47:04 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 18:53:29 <tigeroo> Wondering if there is a way to add colors that you can use for transport companies and new face features, or know where I can find add-ons for that 18:54:11 <Eddi|zuHause> there is a "NewCC" grf that can replace the company colours 18:54:21 <Eddi|zuHause> and at least an "asian faces" grf 18:55:13 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:57:04 <tigeroo> know where I can find NewCC? 18:58:08 <frosch123> it's in the ingame content download 18:59:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:05:24 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:23:03 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-116-43.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:28:25 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:29:03 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:29:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:29:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:35:14 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25936 trunk/src/lang/korean.txt (2013-11-02 18:45:08 UTC) 19:35:15 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 19:35:16 <DorpsGek> korean - 1 changes by telk5093 19:55:01 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-71-93.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:57:18 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:07:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:36 <andythenorth> So I ended up making a subclass :( Apologies for the lost kitten. 20:16:45 *** Haube1 [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 20:17:23 *** Haube1 [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [] 20:51:50 <MNIM> murderer! 20:53:40 <frosch123> it's no murder, if you eat them 20:54:38 <peter1138> reredrum 21:06:41 <andythenorth> 10/8 long sprites look...interesting...on slopes 21:06:51 <peter1138> s/interesting/bad/ 21:23:39 <Eddi|zuHause> it doesn't look bad in CETS 21:24:41 <Alberth> s/CETS/CATS/ 21:29:26 *** Thurak [~oftc-webi@87-194-20-232.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:35:25 *** Lord_Aro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 21:35:25 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:45 *** Lord_Aro is now known as LordAro 21:36:57 <Thurak> what would be good settings to use if i want lots of mountains but also to look somewhat realistic 21:37:15 <andythenorth> there aren't any 21:37:25 <andythenorth> ask peter1138 what happened to fixing terragenesis :) 21:37:36 <andythenorth> you could use a height map 21:38:27 <frosch123> mountanious, smooth, low variety, 30% water 21:39:01 <Thurak> ok 21:39:14 <frosch123> not tropic 21:39:24 <Eddi|zuHause> more height levels :) 21:39:37 <Thurak> has openttd become a lot more popular now yogscast did a few videos about a month ago 21:39:50 <Thurak> i remember something similar happening about 2 years ago 21:39:56 <frosch123> it increased the download rate for some weeks 21:40:14 <frosch123> last month was about the 5th time or so 21:40:26 <frosch123> they played two christmas, two times each or so 21:40:49 <frosch123> but while we see the download rate, noone knows who actually plays 21:41:10 <frosch123> who sticks with it, and who quits after 5 minutes, 1 day, 1 week, ... 21:41:19 <Thurak> ahh, maybe lots of young people download, get confused, quit 21:41:28 <Eddi|zuHause> well is anyone recording changes in online play? 21:41:29 <sla_ro|master> lol 21:41:34 *** Lord_Aro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 21:41:42 <Thurak> ive normally played in short bursts over the past 4 years or so 21:41:49 <Thurak> ever since i started using linux 21:42:12 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't played in ages 21:42:24 *** Lord_Aro is now known as LordAro 21:42:31 <Thurak> on my laptop atm tho so im stuck with micro$oft products... 21:42:51 <Thurak> second hand tho, so i didnt pay for it :P 21:43:05 <frosch123> Thurak: anyway, sips let'splay had about 2 months worth of downloads within 3 weeks 21:43:13 <Thurak> ahh right 21:43:20 <frosch123> so, over the year it does not really matter 21:43:35 <frosch123> it's a noticeable peak, but not important in the long run 21:44:06 <Thurak> i always think its nice when games that are truly free to play get attention like that 21:44:16 <frosch123> also the way yogscast plays ottd, it does not really matter what they play :p 21:44:22 <Thurak> lol 21:44:29 <frosch123> they talk, the game is somewhat irrelevant 21:44:45 <Thurak> tbh thats the case for quite a few people on youtube 21:44:47 <ST2> yeah, frosch123 is right; many players try it... but few stay :( 21:44:57 <Thurak> just have it running as audio while playing a game 21:45:13 <frosch123> so, i kind of wonder about the expectations of the viewers when they decide to download :p 21:45:44 <Thurak> ehh.... i have to go teach people how to take off in war thunder... (flight sim) 21:46:07 <frosch123> [21:54] <Thurak> tbh thats the case for quite a few people on youtube <- yup, i watch a lot of let's play (usually not yogscast). but the way ottd is presented makes me think about the other stuff different :p 21:46:08 <Thurak> apparently he has been failing for over 4 hours >.< 21:46:36 <Thurak> yeah generally i watch other stuff mostly as well 21:46:47 <Eddi|zuHause> that might be the time to read the manual :p 21:46:55 <Thurak> lol 21:47:31 <Thurak> turn engine on, put rudder to 10%, power up, wait.... pull up, you are in the air 21:49:34 <Thurak> i wonder what the average age of someone that launches a ddos attack is.. 21:49:47 <frosch123> 15 21:50:02 <frosch123> middle between 12 and 18 21:50:11 <Thurak> sounds about right... 21:50:22 <Thurak> why would you target an online game with ddos.. 21:50:36 <frosch123> ofc only considdering hobby ddossers 21:50:44 <frosch123> professional ones are likely older 21:50:46 <Thurak> even if it was EA thats going too far 21:52:30 <planetmaker> people have easy means to vote: don't buy and don't play 21:52:48 <planetmaker> it's also the most effective means to vote 21:53:15 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:04 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6A9D5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:13:38 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:15:37 *** GOT [~oftc-webi@adsl-69-104-18-7.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 22:17:52 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:19:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C024.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:32:31 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:53:37 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has left #openttd [] 22:56:34 *** zydeco [~zydeco@77.225.104.56] has quit [Quit: Miscellaneous hardware exception error] 22:57:59 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 23:01:04 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:03:29 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:06:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:14:55 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:14:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 23:18:03 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-71-93.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:08 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc929.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:23:11 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:23:13 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-100-204.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:29:04 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:36:46 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 23:47:17 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:47:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 23:50:59 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:52:38 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-100-204.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:52:47 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-26-251.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:58:03 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]