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00:13:54 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.104.193] has joined #openttd 00:16:34 *** LeandroL_ [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:24:09 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:25:20 *** LeandroL_ [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has joined #openttd 00:51:25 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.104.193] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:41 *** Aristide [~quassel@tok69-5-82-235-150-75.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 00:56:02 *** Kucki [~Kucki@aftr-37-24-155-205.unity-media.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:59:49 *** Lizz [~Lizz@blk-89-196-21.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 01:05:40 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.104.193] has joined #openttd 01:11:48 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50-32-8-90.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:21:06 *** mark [~chatzilla@cpe-74-79-52-81.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:21:14 *** mark is now known as mek42 01:21:39 <mek42> hiyas, new player, having trouble getting docks to work 01:22:18 <Lizz> what's the problem? can't build them? can't send things to them? 01:23:14 <mek42> can't load stuff - does the yates cargo ship carry only goods or anything other than pax and oil? 01:24:27 <mek42> (pax = passengers, sometimes i make up my own shorthand and forget what is me and what is therest of the world) 01:24:50 <glx> pax is known here ;) 01:25:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:26:18 <glx> yate cargo ship can carry 160 units of Mail, Coal, Livestock, Goods, Grain, Wood, Iron ore, Steel, Valuables 01:26:37 <mek42> so, i built a dock, which said it supplied grain and livestock when i built it, but now nothing. i even added a couple land terminals to make sure the farms were in range, but nothing 01:27:01 <glx> you just need to refit it 01:27:22 <mek42> oh, ok, let me try that 01:28:10 <Lizz> yeah that's important to remember 01:28:29 <Lizz> come back when you've had a train running several years but not carrying anything because you didn't refit it properly 01:31:00 <mek42> now to hit the wiki to figure out how to refit something 01:31:33 <glx> http://wiki.openttd.org/Refit <-- this page ;) 01:36:24 <mek42> got it, tyvm! 01:37:07 <mek42> for future refernce, what is the minimum size for a town to accept goods? 01:37:37 <glx> it's not the size, it's the different buildings in acceptance area 01:38:35 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.101.250] has joined #openttd 01:39:19 <glx> commercial buildings start to appear when population is above 500 01:41:49 <mek42> ah, ok, tyvm 01:49:37 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 02:08:50 <mek42> well, despite the large amount of smoke coming out of the engines,my plane made it to the next airport for maintenance and did not crash 02:10:12 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.104.193] has quit [Quit: æ犻] 02:28:55 *** Aristide [~quassel@tok69-5-82-235-150-75.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:57:43 *** Lizz [~Lizz@blk-89-196-21.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:59:12 <mek42> does anyone have a good link for where i can read about switching? i'm having a bit of trouble wrapping my head around it 03:06:30 <Eddi|zuHause> what kind of switching? 03:06:55 <Eddi|zuHause> smoke only makes the plane slow, it does not increase crash chance. 03:07:04 <mek42> right now i know nothing about any kind of switching 03:07:47 <mek42> in fact, i might be getting confused with different articles talking about different switching 03:12:59 <Eddi|zuHause> but you are talking about railways, right? :p 03:13:08 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe this helps: http://uwe.s2000.at/ttdx/signal/index.php?lang=en&filter=ottd 03:13:12 <Pinkbeast> mek42: Are signals the issue? 03:13:37 <Pinkbeast> Eddi|zuHause: Urrr, that's pre-PBS... 03:14:44 <mek42> yeah, i'm trying to figure out how to share rail between multiple trains 03:15:10 <mek42> i think it will be simple once i get it, but i've got a mental block right now 03:15:15 <Pinkbeast> mek42: Moving in the same direction? 03:15:42 <Eddi|zuHause> http://wiki.openttd.org/Signals#Path_Signals 03:16:10 <mek42> i'd like to get a general understanding so i know when i want to use one way or two way systems 03:16:58 <Pinkbeast> And http://wiki.openttd.org/Tutorial/Two_Platforms http://wiki.openttd.org/Tutorial/Two_Tracks http://wiki.openttd.org/Tutorial/Basic_Network 03:17:38 <Eddi|zuHause> you use two-way signals if you only have a single track, or at stations that should be reached from both sides. you use one-way signals if you have at least 2 tracks 03:17:39 <Pinkbeast> mek42: 95% of the time in OTTD, trains will only move in one direction down a given piece of track. There's no efficient way for trains moving in both directions to use a long single piece of track. 03:21:08 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you find this "walkthrough" helpful: http://uwe.s2000.at/ttdx/tutorial/freight.php?lang=en 03:21:08 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:26:20 <mek42> reading the freight tutorial, tyvm! 03:28:00 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:16:04 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@200.146.82.124.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:04:12 <mek42> started a 7925 game to force myself to learn rail and signals eventually 05:04:22 <mek42> ^^1925 05:06:16 <mek42> found a forest near a power station and a sawmill near a coal mine, so made 6 unit long stations and my first train is 2 engines and 5 each coal and wood cars so each trip is half loaded 05:48:34 *** Hazzard [~43aefd2c@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:52:44 <Pinkbeast> mek42: I hate to say it, but mixing cargo types rarely works as well as one might hope... 05:55:26 <mek42> i suspect this is generally the case, but it makes me feel good - and for my first line in this particular go, i have some hills to climb on the way to the power station - being only half full is a little less weight to carry each way 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5C13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4F76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:10:29 <Pinkbeast> mek42: Mmm. The difficulty comes with knowing which end of the line to full-load at. 06:11:09 <Pinkbeast> Half full and half empty each way _ought_ to be very efficient. It's a bit vexing. 06:12:16 <mek42> well, i put my full car closest to the engines for the uphill route, in hopes that once the full mass was up the hill, acceleration would improve 06:13:29 <Pinkbeast> Ah. I would do it the other way around, because the locomotive is also heavy; that way, it spends less time with all the heavy parts on the gradient at once. 06:13:55 <Pinkbeast> Anyway, I'm off to bed. Have fun! 06:48:43 *** mek42 [~chatzilla@cpe-74-79-52-81.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/2013102400]] 06:55:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A2E6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:20:40 *** Pecio [~fgh@agjb242.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 07:32:44 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:54:48 <dihedral> good morning 07:58:44 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-24-179.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:14:25 <Xaroth|Work> o/ 08:21:37 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:42:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A2E6.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:59:44 <__ln__> http://www.gamezebo.com/news/2014/01/20/king-has-trademarked-word-candy-and-youre-probably-infringing 08:59:45 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:14:53 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:24:58 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 09:28:31 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.186.27.48.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 09:28:32 *** LeandroL_ [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:30:53 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has joined #openttd 09:31:23 *** FlutteryChicken [~FlutteryC@94-193-111-243.zone7.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:31:36 <FlutteryChicken> Hi 09:54:31 <planetmaker> moin 09:54:49 <Xaroth|Work> o/ 09:57:54 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 10:02:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 10:03:15 <andythenorth> for spritesheets going into a grf, is there any significant benefit to me cropping them to minimal size? 10:03:26 <andythenorth> I figure extraneous white and blue compresses ok? 10:03:38 <andythenorth> wondering about compile time as well as grf size... 10:14:59 <planetmaker> andythenorth, if you use nmlc -c (which is default), then nmlc will automatically crop and adjust offsets upon compilation 10:15:06 <planetmaker> so for you to develop you don't have to worry at all 10:15:30 <planetmaker> Unless for sprites which must not be cropped (e.g. foundations) - there the NOCROP command for the sprite comes in 10:15:32 <planetmaker> so all is easy 10:15:41 <andythenorth> for some cases where I am compositing sprites, I have to do a crop, so I wondered if there was a benefit to writing code to do it for all 10:15:45 <andythenorth> but let's assume not :) 10:16:19 <planetmaker> there's no benefit to crop in several places during compilation. Just do it once at the end, let nmlc handle it 10:16:32 <planetmaker> without proof that sounds fastest :D 10:16:49 <andythenorth> I wonder if I could borrow the nml code for the places I do need to crop :P 10:16:52 <andythenorth> probably 10:19:10 <planetmaker> nml/output_grf.py:718 and following 10:20:49 <andythenorth> ta 10:42:53 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm... "BSI identified 16 million e-mail adresses that are compromised, please enter your e-mail adress into this form to find out whether you are affected"... how do i know that the BSI [german federal office for IT security] website is actually valid and not abusing my input? :p 10:46:10 <andythenorth> how do you spelling 'phishing' in German? 10:46:11 <andythenorth> :P 10:50:29 <Eddi|zuHause> https://sicherheitstest.bsi.de <-- doesn't even load for me... 10:50:36 <Eddi|zuHause> "connection refused" 11:17:27 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:21:10 *** Aristide [~quassel@tok69-5-82-235-150-75.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 11:22:29 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25:04 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:26:39 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-24-179.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:51:11 <MNIM> considering there's a www infront of the subdomain? baaaaad bad site. 11:52:22 <Eddi|zuHause> well it was linked from a major newspaper 11:53:00 <MNIM> well that doesn't say a whole lot @.@ 12:10:46 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:28:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A2E6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:31:08 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.80.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:34 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 12:31:41 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.80.103] has joined #openttd 12:38:42 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:04 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 13:00:50 <fjb> Moin 13:01:02 <Taede> hello 13:01:13 <Xaroth|Work> o/ 13:01:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 13:01:52 <dihedral> yay 13:01:57 <dihedral> yet another yorick :-P 13:02:18 <yorick> dihedral: huh? 13:02:35 <dihedral> hello there 13:03:02 <yorick> there's another one? 13:03:34 <dihedral> you 13:03:36 <dihedral> just you 13:04:31 <yorick> dihedral: so what are you talkin about then? 13:05:06 <Taede> acronymifying yay i think 13:05:20 *** Nothing4You [N4Y@Nothing4You.w.tf-w.tf] has quit [Quit: Gone...] 13:05:26 <yorick> aha! 13:06:39 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:11:48 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 13:11:59 <fjb> dihedral: You asked for new pictures a few days ago. There are only some I took with my new cell phone: http://www.flickr.com/photos/infjb/11958556834/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/infjb/11965051775/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/infjb/11966619884/ http://flickr.com/gp/infjb/mrEc1X http://flickr.com/gp/infjb/5Um5U6 13:12:13 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:12:22 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:13:01 <fjb> And one that I took with a regular digital camera: http://www.flickr.com/photos/infjb/10384684955/ 13:15:15 <dihedral> fjb: http://www.flickr.com/photos/infjb/9558478906/ oh yeah - who is that? :-P 13:15:54 <fjb> A Canadian whale. 13:16:07 <dihedral> :-P 13:16:08 <Xaroth|Work> who clearly needed another drink 13:16:18 <fjb> More sleep. 13:17:02 <fjb> He wasn't drunk at all. 13:17:13 <Xaroth|Work> so he needed another drink :) 13:17:35 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] 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20:02:22 <LordAro> woo 20:04:41 <frosch123> do i still have to fix the bugs i planned to fix for beta1? 20:04:41 *** Kucki_ [~Kucki@aftr-37-24-159-219.unity-media.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04:52 <mek42> but i take great pride in being a member of the empty set! ;) 20:05:07 <andythenorth> frosch123: nah, I'll do it for you 20:05:15 *** Kucki [~Kucki@aftr-37-24-159-219.unity-media.net] has joined #openttd 20:05:27 <andythenorth> will you trade it for finishing some newgrfs? 20:05:57 <frosch123> were they planned for last year? 20:06:34 <andythenorth> yup 20:07:46 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26273 tags/1.4.0-beta3/ (2014-01-21 20:07:40 UTC) 20:07:47 <DorpsGek> -Release: 1.4.0-beta3 20:07:58 <Rubidium> frosch123: you probably should fix them ;) 20:08:42 <Rubidium> and fixing the others would be nice as too ;) 20:38:29 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.114.235.47.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 20:44:09 *** efess [~Efess@c-50-169-48-221.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:29 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 21:02:34 <mek42> what are some good add ons for a new player to try? 21:04:51 <Alberth> depends on how you like to play the game 21:05:11 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-24-179.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:07:28 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3DE9.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:08:18 <mek42> maybe a pre-1925 start and add some AI opponents 21:08:48 * andythenorth is biased 21:09:41 <Alberth> we all are :) 21:09:50 <andythenorth> I would use UKRS 2, eGRVTS, HEQS and AV8 21:10:02 <andythenorth> some kind of ship set :P 21:10:06 <andythenorth> there aren't any good ones 21:10:18 <Alberth> http://wiki.openttd.org/Comparison_of_AIs 21:10:21 <andythenorth> and I would use FIRS with one of the 'basic' economies 21:11:10 <Alberth> FISH is nice, and SQUID is too, but the latter is still in beta 21:11:18 *** Morgan_Freeman [~not_avail@99-194-190-173.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:51 *** jjavaholic_ is now known as jjavaholic 21:12:12 <Alberth> or you can use the OpenGFX+Industries newgrf if you want a slightly better but mostly like the default set 21:13:08 <Alberth> but ships heavily depends on the amount of water in your map 21:13:22 *** Morgan_Freeman [~not_avail@99-194-190-173.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #openttd 21:14:39 <mek42> is there a place that summarizes / describes most of the add ons in one spot? 21:16:03 *** skyem123 [~skyem123@cpc1-walt4-0-0-cust432.13-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Goodbye!] 21:16:31 <Xaroth|Work> nope 21:16:33 <Xaroth|Work> well 21:16:35 <Xaroth|Work> the forums perhaps 21:17:27 <Alberth> http://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF_List somewhat 21:17:45 <frosch123> mek42: http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/10/16/creating-maps/ <- that pdf also has a section about newgrf iirc 21:18:20 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:19:21 <fjb> Moin 21:19:24 <Xaroth|Work> o/ 21:21:27 <mek42> wowsers, there's a few of them 21:25:11 <Pikka> moin 21:25:55 <Pikka> hmm 21:25:56 <andythenorth> it's pikka chu :) 21:25:58 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 21:27:00 <Pikka> rail tiles detecting neighbours - performance issues, array space, can't see the point, or a little of all three? 21:27:41 <andythenorth> herp, railtypes :P 21:27:56 <andythenorth> Pikka: can you make me and dan a railtype grf? we can't be bothered... :P 21:28:16 <Pikka> I already made one, didn't I? :P 21:28:25 <andythenorth> it is inadequate 21:28:26 <andythenorth> for us 21:28:31 <andythenorth> not generally :D 21:28:55 <andythenorth> needs a metro thing, and some narrow gauge thing 21:29:17 <Alberth> mek42: did we mention game scripts already? :) http://bananas.openttd.org/en/gs/ 21:29:35 * Pikka wants to make a railtype grf with curved junctions, but something about 'you'd need hundreds and hundreds of sprites and no-one's crazy enough to attempt that' 21:29:52 <Alberth> you may want to read about the various game scripts in the forum http://www.tt-forums.net/viewforum.php?f=65 21:29:59 <andythenorth> Pikka: you need Eddi|zuHause 21:30:03 <andythenorth> he likes that kind of thing.... 21:32:12 <mek42> wow, this can get overwhelming, lol 21:32:27 <andythenorth> take it slowly ;) 21:32:34 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=58168 21:34:21 <mek42> i noticed some sort of multiplayer capability? how often do folks play together? 21:34:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i've not got around to actually start the track set 21:34:45 <Xaroth|Work> it's usually small groups of people, but there are a few popular ones 21:35:59 <Eddi|zuHause> the patch to check adjacent trackbits should be about 10LOC 21:37:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:37 <Eddi|zuHause> and i don't think the performance impact would be that hard either. checking adjacent trackbits is already done for catenary 21:38:45 <Eddi|zuHause> there was some open design question about returning individual trackbit sprites, or returning a full junction sprite 21:39:16 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:40:35 <Pikka> definitely full junction :) 21:40:37 <Eddi|zuHause> the latter could yield better graphics, but potentially requires more complicated action2 chains, which may indeed pose performance impact 21:43:14 <Pikka> and of course there's no way of caching the tile and only updating it when it or one of its neighbours changes? 21:43:58 <Eddi|zuHause> only if you extend the map array 21:44:33 <Eddi|zuHause> currently only the "fence" is cached 21:46:06 <Eddi|zuHause> (this cache is only updated in the tileloop) 21:48:03 <mek42> do FISH, new ships and old ships all play well together? 21:49:08 <Alberth> everybody has his/her own favourite combination, just try a few games experimenting 21:49:21 <Pikka> http://i.imgur.com/dbCW44i.png is where I'm at, btw. perhaps I'll leave worrying about the curves until later. :) 21:49:34 <Pikka> plenty else to be getting on with... 21:50:54 <Alberth> don't add too many at once 21:53:35 <Eddi|zuHause> you have a weird width mismatch at the diagonal rails 21:56:40 <andythenorth> mek42: FISH plays nice with other ship sets, but you shouldn't need more than one 21:56:48 <andythenorth> unless it's to get the sailing ships... 21:57:00 <andythenorth> FISH is a bit abandoned though :) 21:57:12 <mek42> ok, i'm thinking FISH and old ships so i can do an early start 21:58:12 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 22:01:26 <Pikka> no I don't, eddi. :) 22:10:28 <Pikka> but the track can be made to meet up only by curving the ends on both tiles, hence wanting to explore custom tiles and detecting neighbours. 22:16:49 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50-32-29-223.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net] has joined #openttd 22:17:36 <mek42> andythenorth - eGRVTS or eGRVTS2? 22:17:44 <andythenorth> 2 22:19:12 <mek42> ty 22:22:49 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:980:272e:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 22:36:18 *** efess [~Efess@c-50-169-48-221.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:44:32 *** Midnightmyth_ [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:45:19 <Wolf01> 'night 22:45:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:47:18 <frosch123> night 22:47:21 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00b0ff.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:04:07 *** mek42 [~chatzilla@cpe-74-79-52-81.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:09:16 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:16:49 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.80.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 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