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00:26:11 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 00:36:38 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:47:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:48:38 *** Hazzard [~43aefd2c@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 00:49:08 <Hazzard> !players 00:49:09 *** Hazzard was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] 00:49:38 *** Hazzard [~43aefd2c@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 00:50:06 <Hazzard> >.> 01:02:33 <Eddi|zuHause> <SpComb> 16k what? <-- 16k kbit/s obviously :p 01:03:29 <Eddi|zuHause> <glx> "up to 16k" <-- i have not noticed any significant speed drops... 01:04:21 <glx> here it's up to 24mbps ATM (20mbps IP) 01:04:40 <glx> but I have only 4mbps in Re-ADSL 01:05:21 <glx> when lucky I can get 8mbps in ADSL2+, but the line is very bad 01:15:06 <Eddi|zuHause> well obviously upload is slower than download, hence the "A" of ADSL 01:15:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i've got around 1mbit up 01:16:08 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 01:17:23 <glx> 1mbps up when I can sync in ADSL2+ yes, but as I'm almost always in ReADSL I have only 600kbps 01:20:35 *** Blowfish [~IRC@46.228.54.111] has joined #openttd 01:21:21 *** _2rB [~IRC@46.228.54.111] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:33:01 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@4JQAABPDQ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 01:34:52 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.89.181] has quit [Quit: Quit Blocked by Ad Muncher.] 01:53:20 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:53:42 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:08:43 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.103.122] has joined #openttd 02:18:07 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.97.125] has joined #openttd 02:23:53 <Pikka> oh for... 02:24:27 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.97.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:24:45 <Pikka> I just spent an hour trying to work out why my AI couldn't build buses... I'd just forgotten to tell it to borrow money before it tried, so it couldn't afford them. 02:27:48 <Pikka> muahaha... CivilAI shall rule the world! 02:33:10 *** Aristide [~quassel@tok69-5-82-235-150-75.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34:37 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:34:37 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:46:42 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.97.125] has joined #openttd 02:53:31 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.97.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:11:35 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:15:54 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 03:16:07 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.103.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:28:35 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.97.125] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:50:22 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.103.122] has joined #openttd 05:24:37 <Flygon> Pikka: Stop modelling your AI after the Australian Governments PT policies D: 05:25:24 <Pikka> Flygon: I don't comment on operational matters 05:25:42 <Flygon> "I'd just forgotten to tell it to borrow money before it tried, so it couldn't afford them." 05:25:43 <Flygon> :P 05:49:02 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has joined #openttd 05:51:35 *** bdavenport [~davenport@chronos.rpi.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:55:37 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.80.103] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66D4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6759C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:02:12 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B3D4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:12:58 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:12:58 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:15:49 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Thus you can combine the GS in the first place 12:12:37 <planetmaker> and openttd only needs to worry about one GS then 12:13:21 <Eddi|zuHause> that's what i said 12:14:20 <Eddi|zuHause> the only thing needed is that GS authors come up with an interface to freely combine their "libary" GS 12:14:31 <planetmaker> "only". yes 12:14:56 <Eddi|zuHause> that way, the "glue" GS can be somewhat trivial to customize 12:25:57 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:33:33 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.103.122] has joined #openttd 12:45:35 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has joined #openttd 12:45:55 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:21:57 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 13:28:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B3D4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:57:09 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 14:18:59 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:21:45 *** Ristovski [~rafael@89.205.3.77] has joined #openttd 14:35:08 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 15:13:11 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@vadtec.net] has joined #openttd 15:17:52 *** zwamkat [~zwamkat@mammut.park.rtvutrecht.nl] has joined #openttd 15:39:31 *** Virtual [~Virtual@46.7.241.30] has joined #openttd 15:46:42 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:39 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:49:42 *** zwamkat [~zwamkat@mammut.park.rtvutrecht.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:14:36 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.104.36] has joined #openttd 16:32:22 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.104.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:23 <Belugas> hello 16:36:39 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.104.36] has joined #openttd 16:36:43 *** Ailure [~xxx@81-234-70-203-no41.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 16:41:50 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.103.122] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:05:53 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.43.131.252] has joined #openttd 17:09:01 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:17:21 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.103.122] has joined #openttd 17:56:37 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:980:272e:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 17:56:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:59:34 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@internet-188-198-200-188.narocnik.mobitel.si] has joined #openttd 18:02:06 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:02:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:29:11 *** Miauw [~Miauw@2a02:1810:a800:7a00:ed83:4c31:93f6:44ae] has joined #openttd 18:45:32 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26315 /trunk/src/lang (4 files in 2 dirs) (2014-02-07 18:45:22 UTC) 18:45:33 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:34 <DorpsGek> danish - 7 changes by phnoggie 18:45:35 <DorpsGek> frisian - 3 changes by Geoloep 18:45:36 <DorpsGek> hebrew - 16 changes by oofnik 18:45:37 <DorpsGek> latvian - 19 changes by Tranzistors 18:45:53 <Alberth> :o frisian updates :) 18:46:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:48:06 <planetmaker> yeah, I approved a frisian translator a few days ago, that one 18:57:33 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@internet-188-198-200-188.narocnik.mobitel.si] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:21 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:49 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3F2B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:01:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:02 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:06 <andythenorth> o/ 19:03:21 <planetmaker> 'lo andythenorth :) 19:08:34 <Alberth> \o 19:11:40 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 19:11:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 19:18:29 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 19:19:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:21:02 *** slee [~slee@0001c4b7.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:30:34 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00d660.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:33:32 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.103.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:33:52 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.43.131.252] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:05 <slee> ok, i'm going to attempt a 20 track station(roro) between a sawmill and factory(making it my central hub for goods), but i don't know the terminology to find out what the best way to lay the track to feed the station for efficiency, can someone tell me what to search for(images.google) or post a link to an image of an efficient entrance to this station? 19:38:22 <Alberth> openttdcoop.org 19:38:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:38:42 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 19:39:05 <Wolf01> hi hi 19:40:43 <planetmaker> slee, check out some of the games from the public server archive 19:41:10 <slee> thanks 19:45:13 <Miauw> Uh 19:45:16 <Miauw> I'm playing with some guy 19:45:22 <Miauw> Why are euros grayed out in the options menu? 19:45:42 <Wolf01> because they happen in 2001 19:45:53 <Miauw> Oooh, right 19:46:02 <planetmaker> :) 19:46:19 <planetmaker> choose the appropriate predecessor currency and it will convert in the right year 19:46:32 <planetmaker> alternatively use a custom currency and call it Euro :) 19:48:03 <Miauw> Yeah. 19:48:06 <Miauw> I made a custom currency called farts 19:48:15 <Miauw> Because I'm mature like that 19:49:42 <Wolf01> I think we need to introduce a table to keep the change price of all the currencies day by day, and keep the base cost of all in dollars, so you need to check the market to find which currency is better to use when you need to purchase something 19:50:53 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.16.148.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 19:51:23 *** Zuu [~Zuu@212.112.47.66] has joined #openttd 19:56:17 <valhallasw> Wolf01: Why in dollars? I want to buy my TIM in francs! 19:57:07 <Wolf01> eh, all in the game is produced and imported from outside 20:05:55 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 20:09:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:17 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:27:32 *** Wizard_Gherkin_ [~oftc-webi@host86-147-181-132.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:33:42 *** Wizard_Gherkin_ [~oftc-webi@host86-147-181-132.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:36:16 *** Virtual [~Virtual@46.7.241.30] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20:40:53 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-37-126.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 20:44:28 *** Der_Herr [~Bubbel@p5DDCC6D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:45:29 <Der_Herr> hi 20:45:42 <Der_Herr> can someone tell me how to check out the latest stable release via svn? 20:47:21 <planetmaker> svn co svn://svn.openttd.org/tags/1.3.3 20:47:47 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 20:48:00 <Der_Herr> ok thank you 20:48:27 <Der_Herr> is it improvable by something like svn co svn://svn.openttd.org/tags/lateststable ? 20:49:14 <Zuu> You can get the last stable version from http://finger.openttd.org/versions.txt 20:49:16 <planetmaker> if you're up for an auto-updater, see our wiki for available methods 20:49:35 <Alberth> source of latest stable is not that useful, since there are binaries and you can download source zips or tarballs 20:49:52 <planetmaker> it's useful for building server binaries, Alberth :) 20:50:00 <__ln__> Der_Herr: i was asked to remind you about the difference between the words 'das' and 'daÃ'. therefore, be reminded now. 20:50:15 <planetmaker> our servers indeed curl the finger.txt and update accordingly 20:50:32 <planetmaker> __ln__, it's spellt 'dass' ;) 20:50:33 <Alberth> ok :) 20:51:07 <Zuu> The wiki article that planetmaker had in mind is probably this one http://wiki.openttd.org/OTTD_Updaters 20:51:14 <planetmaker> thanks ^ :) 20:53:01 <Der_Herr> thats very nice __ln__ but i know the difference between das und daÃ/dass very excellent 20:53:19 <planetmaker> when you last exit this channel, you didn't ;) 20:53:21 <__ln__> planetmaker: you're the second person to tell me that within a week, so i should probably find out about the new rules of spelling. 20:53:55 <planetmaker> Der_Herr, i.e. correct the spelling of your IRC quit message 20:57:30 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:00:31 <Miauw> Can boats dock on canals? 21:01:01 <planetmaker> boats can dock on docks and on oil rigs 21:01:08 <Der_Herr> you are right 21:01:10 <Der_Herr> i corrected it 21:01:20 <planetmaker> you can build docks on canal water 21:01:41 <Alberth> build a little mountain next to the water 21:05:20 <Miauw> Ooh 21:15:47 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:17:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 21:17:47 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:21:22 <Miauw> How do you rotate the map? 21:22:17 <andythenorth> ugh docks on canals :P 21:22:24 <andythenorth> also 21:22:27 * andythenorth -> bed :) 21:22:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 21:24:21 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.104.36] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:24:45 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.104.36] has joined #openttd 21:29:11 *** Andreas [~Andreas@c118116.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:29:15 <Alberth> Miauw: you cannot, but 'x' toggles transparency options 21:29:25 <Miauw> Oh, alright. 21:29:32 <Alberth> and ctl-x configures them 21:30:12 <Miauw> I'm playing with a friend and he insists that he managed to rotate twice 21:30:24 <__ln__> http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Bosnias+highspeed+rail+dreams+fleet+trains+nowhere/9164894/story.html 21:30:28 <planetmaker> I can rotate, too. But the monitor is heavy 21:30:45 <Alberth> get him to tell how he did it, and let us know, we'd like that option too :) 21:31:23 <Alberth> planetmaker: just rotate yourself :) 21:31:43 <planetmaker> sitting on my head? Na, that hurts more than rotating the monitor :P 21:32:06 <Alberth> good point :) 21:33:29 <planetmaker> on the other hand... 90° rotations, there it might be the more convenient option :) zzzz ZZZZ zzz :P 21:33:40 <Taede> take screenshot, load in favorite image editor? 21:34:06 <planetmaker> I often tried to click trains or move map. It always failed with screenshots, Taede 21:34:53 *** GNA [~oftc-webi@cust-03-55bf5d1e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 21:35:50 <GNA> Hello. I need help configuring Aphid's CityBuilder for OpenTTD. Who here can help me out? 21:36:12 <planetmaker> what's the problem? 21:36:29 <GNA> The problem is I haven't the slightest idea what any of the options do. 21:36:38 <GNA> I'm a TTD pro, but CityBuilder is new for me. 21:37:02 <planetmaker> don't they come with some help text when you hover the mouse over the options? 21:37:22 <GNA> What I want is to have the same settings as on Reddit server #2. 21:37:30 <GNA> In game yes, in the config options no. 21:37:43 <planetmaker> then you might better ask the reddit guys? 21:37:43 <GNA> There's a readme, but it's not exactly made for laymen, if you get what I mean. 21:37:51 <GNA> I did. They sent me here. 21:38:14 <planetmaker> :D 21:38:46 <planetmaker> they've several servers. Some are even patched servers. I don't know which scripts they use nor any of their configurations 21:39:19 <GNA> Well, do you know how to configure a GS? 21:39:34 <GNA> Cause I can sum up what I want, if that's the issue. 21:40:17 <GNA> I'm currently running nightly r26298 + FIRS, and a ton of landscape, vehicle, and object mods. 21:40:34 <planetmaker> the online content doesn't know a "Aphid's citybuilder". Thus I don't know and cannot even look what it looks like 21:40:53 <GNA> It's called CityBuilder in BaNaNas. 21:40:59 <planetmaker> there are several city builder scripts. Probably each has its own strength and weakness 21:41:03 <GNA> However, it won't show up unless you're running the latest nightly. 21:41:48 <Miauw> Alberth: That's the problem 21:41:50 <Miauw> He doesn't know how he did it 21:41:55 <Miauw> And he wants to rotate it back to normal :P 21:42:05 <Alberth> :) 21:42:28 <planetmaker> right I have never configured that GS either. But let's see: 21:42:39 <frosch123> GNA: they probably meant to send you to #/r/openttd 21:42:45 <frosch123> because that's their chanel 21:43:03 <GNA> Ah, so I should go bother those people with my questions instead then? ;P 21:43:14 <frosch123> though i cannot remember whether it is #/r/openttd or #r/openttd 21:43:34 <GNA> I'll give it a go. Thanks, guys. 21:43:37 *** GNA [~oftc-webi@cust-03-55bf5d1e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:43:43 <Andreas> the hardest part of setting up aphids with an industry newgrf is figuring out the cargo id's and setting the right requirements 21:43:50 <Andreas> oh 21:43:54 <Andreas> too late 21:43:54 <Andreas> XD 21:44:13 <planetmaker> oh. my. god. That GS has a truely insane amount of parameters 21:44:21 <planetmaker> I didn't see the extend I could scroll there... 21:44:48 <frosch123> it's like basecost mod :p 21:44:55 <planetmaker> worse 21:45:04 <planetmaker> "cargo #12 (uu) transition length: 21:45:06 <planetmaker> etc 21:46:16 <Andreas> yes, indeed that is for setting up the requirements in industry sets, you have to figure out what cargo has what ID 21:46:23 <planetmaker> basecosts has how many? 60-odd entries? 21:46:37 <frosch123> Andreas: do you know the homepage of firs? 21:46:45 <Andreas> and then set requirements, population on which it is needed and decay rate for each 21:47:10 <Andreas> well yes frosch123, but still need to set 3 parameters for each cargo 21:47:19 <Andreas> + some aditional stuff 21:47:30 <planetmaker> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html 21:47:50 <frosch123> ok, just wanted to point out that it lists the ids 21:48:00 <frosch123> hmm, actually newgrf wiki may be better 21:48:03 <frosch123> it also lists ecs 21:48:43 <frosch123> planetmaker: you can make it more settings by adding them for each known cargolabel :) 21:48:51 <planetmaker> :D 21:50:26 <planetmaker> newgrf wiki doesn't have the IDs listed in the cargo label page (maybe implicitly by the un-numbered rows) 21:50:46 <frosch123> ah right, pikka killed the list 21:51:16 <planetmaker> not needed really... newgrfs should not care about the ID :) 21:53:17 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:980:272e:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 22:01:37 *** APTX [~APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:216:36ff:fe70:d359] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:02 *** Miauw [~Miauw@2a02:1810:a800:7a00:ed83:4c31:93f6:44ae] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:03:36 *** APTX [~APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:2ff:ffff:fe00:1] has joined #openttd 22:25:53 <Pikka> lies 22:30:38 *** happy__ [~b01aca4e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 22:31:17 *** happy__ [~b01aca4e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 22:46:28 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:53 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 22:48:18 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:50:35 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.104.36] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:03 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.104.36] has joined #openttd 22:55:39 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26316 trunk/src/newgrf_object.cpp (2014-02-07 22:55:33 UTC) 22:55:40 <DorpsGek> -Feature [FS#5696]: Extend object variable 0x60 to also return the view. 22:56:10 *** Ristovski [~rafael@89.205.3.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:07:21 *** Andreas [~Andreas@c118116.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:10 *** lumlum [~lumlum@p5B34329E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:17:29 <lumlum> hello fellow openttd fans ;) 23:18:08 <planetmaker> hi 23:18:42 *** Der_Herr [~Bubbel@p5DDCC6D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: [ www.eXirc.net ] # ŠDer_HerrŠ wozu soll man sich ne windows lizenz kaufen wenn man ALLE programme eh durch freeware ersetzen muss weil nur die gut funzt ] 23:19:46 <lumlum> quick question: why can vehicles make more deficit than they have running costs? 23:19:56 <Eddi|zuHause> transfer 23:20:29 <Eddi|zuHause> if one vehicle in the chain overestimates its influence, the last vehicle gets this difference added as negative income 23:20:56 <Eddi|zuHause> use the "fraction of feeder share" setting to compensate 23:23:24 <lumlum> searching this in advanced settings doesnt get a result - is the setting "percentage of leg profit to pay in feeder systems"? this is set to 75%, what would be a better value? 23:24:01 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that one. lower it if you experience lots of negative income 23:24:28 <Eddi|zuHause> or optimise your transfer chains 23:24:51 <Eddi|zuHause> don't transport backwards, and have vehicles with roughly equal speed in all chains 23:25:40 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:25:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 23:26:39 <lumlum> i got subway trains to feed mainstation of a city and then transport the passengers to other mainstations with shinkansens eg 23:27:18 <Eddi|zuHause> also, reduce times the trains wait at stations to be loaded 23:28:52 <lumlum> the trains just enter a station, load whats there and leave ... most of the time this enough to fill the train completely 23:29:58 <lumlum> just set it to 50% and running fast forward ^^ 23:30:47 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-155-207.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 23:30:52 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-7-250.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:32:57 *** Hazzard [~43aefd2c@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:34:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:39:27 <Wolf01> 'night all 23:39:32 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:40:40 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.89.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:44:06 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.89.181] has joined #openttd 23:44:52 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 23:48:33 *** Hazzard is now known as Guest467 23:48:33 *** Hazzard [~43aefd2c@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:49:02 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26317 /trunk/src (13 files in 3 dirs) (2014-02-07 23:48:56 UTC) 23:49:03 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5897]: Check whether NewGRF change vehicle capacity when they are not supposed to, and truncate cargo appropiately if they are allowed to. 23:49:15 *** Guest467 [~43aefd2c@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:20 <frosch123> night 23:49:24 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00d660.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:54:16 *** jrambo [~jrambo@93-86-99-150.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54:37 *** jrambo [~jrambo@93-86-99-150.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #openttd 23:58:30 *** lumlum [~lumlum@p5B34329E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 23:59:12 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-155-207.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: No route to host]