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[~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:22:51 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 09:24:11 <dihedral> * LordAro mornings <- has brokennings 09:24:20 <Xaroth|Work> o/ 09:24:25 <dihedral> hey there 09:24:41 <dihedral> i have a new theme song to my work hours 09:25:19 <dihedral> Fugees - killing me softly 09:25:48 <Xaroth|Work> lolz 09:27:01 <Xaroth|Work> for me it's Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train 09:35:50 <dihedral> how about 'dreamer' :-P 09:42:11 <Eddi|zuHause> how about "Bruttosozialprodukt"? 09:44:50 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUdyqJuJOAs 09:50:06 *** Pecio [~fgh@aena144.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 09:55:05 *** Ristovski [~rafael@89.205.3.77] has joined #openttd 09:59:06 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:10:35 <V453000> wtf scenario editor cant load heightmaps? :0 10:12:01 *** kais58 is now known as kais58|AFK 10:38:46 *** Andreas [~Andreas@s5375406a.adsl.online.nl] 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Most importantly the language files. 14:58:14 <nicferirc> I copied the files like they were on the beta3 14:58:25 <nicferirc> and it was working good before 14:59:20 <planetmaker> including the lang folder? 14:59:44 <planetmaker> anyhow, don't copy manually stuff onto places which are meant to be handled by the package manager 15:00:01 <planetmaker> just get the generic package of openttd, unzip it in a local folder in your home dir. And start openttd from there 15:00:15 <nicferirc> I copied them into the local directory 15:01:44 <planetmaker> yes. and obviously you either missed to copy parts into the correct places or you start the wrong binary 15:02:18 <planetmaker> just unzip the generic bundle and run from your home dir 15:02:22 <planetmaker> without installing anything 15:04:54 <planetmaker> nicferirc, the paths where openttd is supposed to look are set at compile time. So if you grab something not meant for your system and just copy over the binary, it can easily fail, if your system defaults and the generic defaults differ 15:10:15 <Eddi|zuHause> nicferirc: you can't use the beta3 language files on beta4, they must come from the place where you compiled beta4 15:11:12 <Eddi|zuHause> nicferirc: also, try running the binary from the compile directory first before copying stuff around 15:11:40 <Eddi|zuHause> besides that, there is a "make install" command... 15:18:04 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.40.6.5] has joined #openttd 15:22:26 *** Morgan_Freeman [~not_avail@99-194-190-173.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:29:13 <nicferirc> I didn't compile the game 15:30:51 <nicferirc> I copied the language files 15:31:43 <nicferirc> I'm using the generic package 15:32:01 <nicferirc> as I've done with beta3 15:49:32 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.40.52] has joined #openttd 16:08:01 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.40.52] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 210 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<DorpsGek> frisian - 54 changes by Geoloep 18:45:35 <DorpsGek> korean - 1 changes by telk5093 18:45:36 <DorpsGek> spanish - 1 changes by Welder05 18:46:40 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.12.90] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51:44 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:27 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 18:59:33 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:53 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 19:02:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:04:28 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:06:10 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.42.169] has joined #openttd 19:07:25 <andythenorth> o/ 19:11:10 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.42.169] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 19:11:36 *** Aristide 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Get it here: http://adiirc.com] 19:31:42 <andythenorth> a friendly channel today 19:31:52 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01eb09.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:33:03 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 19:33:17 <planetmaker> surprisingly yeah. No flaming. No bashing. Just... friendly, cozy silence. But we broke it. Good evening, andythenorth. And quak. And what-not-all :) 19:34:38 <frosch123> hallöle 19:35:20 * Alberth greets all 19:36:07 <frosch123> maybe we should move the autorenew settings into the autoreplace gui :p 19:36:38 *** nicferirc [~nicfer@190.50.48.61] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:36:42 <planetmaker> I don't exactly understand why we make a difference between the two anyway 19:36:55 <planetmaker> it's conceptually about the same thing 19:37:00 <Alberth> frosch123: and confuse people completely ? :) 19:37:21 <frosch123> well, it was more different before we got "replace when old" 19:37:54 <frosch123> it's also weird wrt. "autoreplace protection" of groups 19:38:05 <planetmaker> I don't remember ye ol' times when it was different 19:38:27 <frosch123> not? isn't that even a 1.4 feature? :p 19:38:31 <frosch123> or was it already 1.3? 19:38:46 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host58-55-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:39:06 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 19:39:07 <planetmaker> hm replace, not renew? 19:39:19 <planetmaker> maybe it's a feature which eluded me then so far :D 19:39:23 <Wolf01> hello o/ 19:39:45 <frosch123> planetmaker: today you can select into autoreplace gui, whether to replace vehicles immediately, or when old 19:40:06 <frosch123> there is even a feature request by v to add another option: replace on next service 19:40:06 <planetmaker> right, that's something I wasn't aware of :) 19:40:07 <Alberth> :o that must be a new feature :) 19:40:33 <planetmaker> <-- feels like fossil :P 19:40:46 <Alberth> not playing openttd enough :p 19:41:16 <planetmaker> yeah, I guess... 19:41:26 * andythenorth knows nothing any more :) 19:41:55 <Alberth> oh, think of all the new games that are awaiting you! 19:42:10 <Alberth> endless hours of fun 19:42:10 <frosch123> @commit 24136 19:42:10 <DorpsGek> frosch123: Commit by michi_cc :: r24136 /trunk/src (14 files in 4 dirs) (2012-04-17 19:44:02 UTC) 19:42:11 <DorpsGek> frosch123: -Feature [FS#4465]: Autoreplace vehicles only when they get old. (Vikthor) 19:42:21 <frosch123> so, it's 1.3 19:42:23 <planetmaker> I often have AI play the game for me when I play with NewGRFs myself :P 19:43:25 <planetmaker> btw, is it possible to run a game without any UI just for, say, 30 years, possibly in fast-forward? 19:43:38 <frosch123> yes 19:43:50 <planetmaker> without patch? 19:43:57 <frosch123> -v null:ticks=810855 19:44:00 <frosch123> or something like that 19:44:14 <planetmaker> could be utilized to run AI competitions 19:44:46 <frosch123> the original noai competition made cyclically screenshots of the smallmap 19:44:48 <frosch123> didn't ti? 19:45:16 <frosch123> and it only ran for 5 years anyway, since competeitive ais usally have maxed out by then 19:45:16 <planetmaker> I don't really recall. It made some documentation. But screenshots require still compilation with blitter 19:45:40 <planetmaker> I found that the picture can change when you keep it running 19:46:41 <planetmaker> I was pondering today to just configure jenkins to run a random game. 19:46:50 <planetmaker> Possibly random maps, random AIs. 19:46:57 <planetmaker> But run regularily it will create statistics 19:47:10 <frosch123> well, i don't get the idea of an ai competition server 19:47:42 <frosch123> how about a server that runs random games with ais, and logs when they crash 19:47:48 <frosch123> the ranking is then the bug count 19:47:59 <planetmaker> that's easy to do then, too 19:48:22 <planetmaker> also a ranking of how many of which vehicles used 19:48:31 <frosch123> well, i feel like there are endless ai competition posts on the forums, but checking profit graphs feels pointless to me 19:48:37 <frosch123> just as pointless as when playing as human 19:48:51 <frosch123> and who would be able to rank meaningful track layouts? 19:48:54 <planetmaker> yes, they're profitable enough, often enough 19:49:03 <planetmaker> meaningful track layout... difficult 19:49:07 <frosch123> so, only considering and collecting ai crashes makes more sense to me :p 19:49:27 <planetmaker> crashes indeed would make sense. 19:50:09 <andythenorth> hmm 19:50:11 <andythenorth> MP server game? o_O 19:50:13 <planetmaker> though there's a lot of AIs which get very little attention 19:50:24 * andythenorth considers not working tonight 19:51:36 <frosch123> planetmaker: ok, number of vehicles makes sense too, that allows detecting ais which do not build anything 19:52:10 <planetmaker> so, specs: crashes, vehicle count and screenshot(s)? 19:52:12 <frosch123> then we could have a proper page which recommends ais to newbies, based purely on: they do not crash, and they do something 19:52:27 <frosch123> maybe also the time from start to first construction action 19:52:29 <andythenorth> hmm 19:52:37 <andythenorth> what happened to bananasnanans rewrite? o_O 19:52:46 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.42.169] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:53 <planetmaker> probably fell asleep, andythenorth 19:52:58 <andythenorth> ha ha 19:59:02 <andythenorth> hmm 19:59:05 * andythenorth decides to work 20:00:48 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58 20:01:24 <planetmaker> @calc 74*365*10 20:01:24 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 270100 20:03:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:26 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.61.54] has joined #openttd 20:04:45 <Andreas> what have you done 74 times a day for 10 years? 20:05:07 <planetmaker> increase time by one tick 20:05:17 <Andreas> oh ofc... 20:12:29 <planetmaker> hm... 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