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09:44:42 <Jerry_> ??? 09:44:47 <V453000> no hi 09:47:59 <Flygon> I'm Tom! 09:48:28 <Jerry_> hi 09:48:42 <Jerry_> why don't planes crash on takeoff 09:50:32 <V453000> why yes 09:50:42 <Jerry_> takeoff in otted 09:50:45 <Jerry_> openttd* 09:51:00 <V453000> why should they 09:51:14 <Jerry_> like into buildingd 09:51:14 <Jerry_> buildings 09:51:39 <V453000> yeah 09:51:40 <V453000> why 09:51:49 <Jerry_> nvm 09:52:17 *** Jerry_ [~oftc-webi@bb115-66-113-103.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:52:42 *** T00238573924 [~oftc-webi@bb115-66-113-103.singnet.com.sg] has joined #openttd 09:53:30 *** T00238573924 [~oftc-webi@bb115-66-113-103.singnet.com.sg] has quit [] 10:07:27 <peter1139> Great suggestion... o_O 10:07:40 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:12:16 <Xaroth|Work> peter1139: didn't you have a patch for that? 10:21:25 <peter1139> Of course. 10:21:36 <peter1139> Probably. 10:24:52 *** gpsoft [~gpsoft@97e1b052.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 10:26:39 <NGC3982> Morning. 10:27:14 <Xaroth|Work> o/ 10:34:42 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:39:11 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:50:44 *** Celestar1 [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has joined #openttd 10:51:36 <Celestar1> good day :D 10:52:16 <peter1139> hey 10:52:21 <__ln___> hello Celestar1 10:52:30 *** Celestar1 is now known as Celestar 10:52:50 <Celestar> how's life? 10:52:53 <Xaroth|Work> o/ 10:54:32 <V453000> moo 10:59:03 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 11:03:04 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-182-215.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 11:06:01 <LordAro> :o a Celestar 11:06:12 <Celestar> :P 11:06:33 <LordAro> how are you/ 11:06:35 <LordAro> ? 11:08:50 <Celestar> not too shabby actually. 11:09:03 <Celestar> how about ye? 11:14:13 <LordAro> can't complain too much 11:14:31 <LordAro> somewhat struggling to come up with a decent GSoC application(s) 11:28:05 <Celestar> oh 11:28:10 <Celestar> no idea ;) 11:37:37 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:37:58 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:41:02 <Celestar> people asked me to do a little openttd presentation at work :D 11:41:17 <V453000> lolwat 11:41:41 <Celestar> well it's a company of nerds. 11:41:47 <Celestar> so they are interested. 11:42:20 <Celestar> so I'm kinda wondering what platform that beast actually works on meanwhile 11:43:09 <V453000> nice enuf 11:45:33 <Celestar> because all the old BeOS, MorphOS, Solaris, etc stuff seems to no longer exist 11:45:40 <__ln___> :( 11:46:19 <Celestar> does it? 11:47:00 <peter1139> Which beast? 11:48:12 <Celestar> openttd :P 11:48:26 <peter1139> Oh 11:48:45 <peter1139> Hmm, there's MorphOS stuff in there. I don't think BeOS stuff ever got merged. 11:56:38 <Celestar> back in 20 12:05:46 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-182-215.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:23:47 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:28:24 <Celestar> b 12:29:04 <__ln___> c 12:29:55 <Celestar> 1ef 12:32:38 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.80.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33:08 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.80.103] has joined #openttd 12:39:25 *** APTX [~APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 12:39:26 *** APTX [~APTX@aptx.org] has joined #openttd 12:43:46 <Celestar> jeez I haven't played this in a long time :> I can't even seen to serve a water pump :P 12:45:28 <peter1139> What's this 'play' that you talk of? 12:48:41 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:52:50 <planetmaker> a Celestar! Again! :) 12:53:05 <Celestar> loops like it 12:53:09 <Celestar> looks 12:53:23 <planetmaker> how's life? 12:53:28 <Celestar> peter1139: randomly pushing some buttons in the GUI :P 12:53:36 <Celestar> not bad not bad, you? 12:53:50 <Celestar> Trying to understand how a 777 just goes missing :P 12:55:18 <planetmaker> not bad either :) 12:55:26 <planetmaker> trying that for fun? Or for living? :P 12:56:07 <Celestar> mostly fun 13:04:52 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 13:10:18 <planetmaker> it's a big mystery anyway, quite odd 13:10:35 <planetmaker> wouldn't have believed that to be possible for a plane to just go *poof* without trace 13:14:44 <Celestar> I don't believe the 'go poof' part 13:14:52 <Celestar> not after the most recent data 13:17:56 *** bdavenport [~davenport@chronos.rpi.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:20:19 *** bdavenport [~davenport@chronos.rpi.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 13:21:22 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 13:23:34 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:24:34 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 13:24:46 *** Pereba [~UserNick@186.215.5.65] has joined #openttd 13:29:31 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:30:10 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 13:30:39 * andythenorth considers a FIRS parameter for cargo rate curves 13:32:42 <Celestar> someone really has to explain ECS to me 13:33:45 <Celestar> got a truck station next to a water supply but there's no water getting loaded. does that miss some newgrf or what? 13:42:11 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@194.168.185.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:19 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:43:58 <planetmaker> Celestar, play FIRS ;) 13:44:21 <Celestar> with FIRS being? 13:44:42 <planetmaker> and... a station only supplies cargoX, if a vehicle demands it and has been refit to cargoX in order to pickup that cargo 13:44:57 <planetmaker> FIRS is a NewGRF, an industry NewGRF 13:45:06 <Celestar> why FIRS > ECS? 13:45:26 <planetmaker> no, I'd not say that. Different 13:45:45 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:46:01 <planetmaker> But it's a bit more my personal taste 13:46:15 <planetmaker> more stable economy 13:46:52 <Celestar> I see. 13:47:37 <planetmaker> but not less complex 13:50:10 <Celestar> so for that you need some refittable vehicle set, right? 13:50:15 <Celestar> jeez, it's been long 13:58:18 <planetmaker> yes, you need that if you want to transport anything other than the default cargoes 13:59:07 <Celestar> any decent set for that with 32bpp/more zoom? 14:01:31 <planetmaker> not in bananas as far as I know. There's a development version of OpenGFX+ Trains which has some: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-trains/nightlies 14:02:21 <planetmaker> you might try also NUTS trainset. Add HEQS vehicles, FISH ships, av9.8 planes and opengfx+ Road Vehicles or egrvts2 14:03:05 <planetmaker> don't use heqs as the only (road) vehicle set though. It's only meant to be complementary 14:04:27 <Celestar> so opengfx is normal resolution and opengfx+ is full zoom or what? 14:12:01 <planetmaker> no, OpenGFX+ is just OpenGFX extended for better gameplay with NewGRF features 14:12:03 <Eddi|zuHause> opengfx is the base set, opengfx+ is newgrfs that somewhat enhance the default 14:13:22 <Celestar> ah ;) 14:13:50 <planetmaker> if you're daring, you might try my newest landscape set, which also is only available as development version. And which only works for temperate and tropical: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/pota-ghat/push/LATEST/ ;) 14:13:53 <planetmaker> That is 32bpp, though 14:15:08 <Celestar> :D 14:15:36 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/other_tropic2.png 14:16:08 <Celestar> lol ;D 14:16:17 <Celestar> some nice shit 14:16:37 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:27 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:21:34 <planetmaker> Celestar, another very interesting set, also still in development and somewhat far from being finished: Central European Trainset (CETS): http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies 14:21:56 <Celestar> yeah I have seen that 14:22:04 <planetmaker> k :) 14:22:39 <Celestar> game looks weird when you zoom fully in and some sprites have full resolution and others not :D 14:22:53 <planetmaker> yup 14:23:00 <planetmaker> it works if you only use 2x zoom, though 14:24:16 <Celestar> yeah. 14:24:21 <Celestar> well it WORKS on 4x :P 14:24:36 <planetmaker> yeah, well. :) 14:24:52 <planetmaker> what company is that that wants an openttd presentation? :D 14:26:29 <Celestar> the one I'm working at? 14:26:33 <Celestar> www.tngtech.com 14:29:18 <Celestar> why? :P 14:29:40 <planetmaker> just curious :) 14:30:59 <Celestar> is there a list of 4xzoom newgrfs? 14:31:58 <Celestar> for the eyecandy stuffs :P 14:32:00 <planetmaker> I fear nothing more (or much more) than listed in the wiki. And I fear that list is extremely short. 14:33:03 <planetmaker> https://wiki.openttd.org/Playing_with_32_bpp_graphics 14:33:32 <planetmaker> so pota-ghat is missing, egrvts2 as well. I know no others. Though Pikka has some trainset in the pipeline I recon 14:33:49 <Celestar> egrvts2 doesn't seem 4x 14:34:10 <planetmaker> ah, yes 14:34:18 <planetmaker> same as opengfx-mars is 32bpp but not 4x 14:34:40 <peter1139> Using that script that rubidium made was far too complex for the 32bpp artists so they decided to moan instead... 14:34:41 <planetmaker> possibly I should make Zephyris draw / render 4x sprites 14:34:51 <Celestar> yeah poke him :D 14:34:56 <Celestar> peter1139: about what? 14:35:07 <planetmaker> 'too complex', 'work lost / wasted' 14:35:27 <planetmaker> but it all was: they had no license attached to their work. That's why most is lost 14:35:33 <peter1139> Celestar, we changed the 32bpp storage format to work better and be way more efficient, and rubidium provided a script that would convert everything in one go to the new format. 14:36:02 <peter1139> For the most part, they ignored the script, threw a paddy & left... 14:36:13 <Celestar> uh huh.. 14:36:13 <planetmaker> yeah 14:36:25 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 14:36:29 <peter1139> That was... 2 years ago? Dunno 14:37:03 <Celestar> weird. 14:37:17 <planetmaker> 1.2, yes 14:37:23 <Celestar> what does that have to do with the liencese? 14:37:36 <planetmaker> no license == no possibility for someone to code it 14:38:18 <peter1139> Yeah, it all worked as well as it could, bearing in mind some of it was broken with the old system anyway. 14:38:34 <Celestar> so. 14:38:38 <peter1139> But nothing for us to release as it wasn't our work, heh 14:38:42 <Celestar> Artists are missing 14:38:48 <peter1139> There's some left, heh 14:39:08 <peter1139> There's a base set too I think 14:39:17 <planetmaker> missing... yes. no. Depends on how you view it :) 14:39:46 <Celestar> ;P 14:39:50 <planetmaker> there's zBase. But to me the landscape is a bit dull or too plain 14:40:11 <Celestar> and it seems to be missing trams 14:40:23 <planetmaker> trams are not baseset stuff 14:40:28 <planetmaker> only tram tracks 14:41:25 <Celestar> yah 14:41:29 <Celestar> zBase is a nice start imho 14:42:50 <planetmaker> definitely. And that's its purpose 14:42:58 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 14:43:01 <planetmaker> and not more really 14:43:22 <planetmaker> like "here, see. I made this all alone and I made it in reasonable time (like 6 months or so) 14:43:40 <planetmaker> No reason to whine that it all is lost etc" 14:44:15 <planetmaker> Or so I believe was part of Zeph's motivation, too. Other than that he had most of the procedures already available and used for generating OpenGFX 14:44:25 <planetmaker> And UKHouses or so 14:44:35 <planetmaker> and egrvts etc :) 14:45:00 <peter1139> Maybe they're still waiting for unrelated bullshit like curved tracks and consistent scaling... 14:45:14 <Celestar> custombridgeheads? :D 14:45:17 <planetmaker> that's another sad story with the goldrush thingy 14:45:22 <peter1139> Which somehow always fell into the plans of people doing the artwork. 14:45:30 <Celestar> what goldrush 14:45:34 <planetmaker> typical case of 'I only want to show perfect stuff and rather nothing' 14:45:47 <peter1139> Oh has that died now? 14:46:02 <planetmaker> dunno. But haven't heard anything in ages 14:46:20 <planetmaker> http://badbrett.deviantart.com/gallery/39078388 @ Celestar. True screenshots 14:46:32 <Celestar> O_o 14:46:49 <peter1139> Oh that was the one where you set up the repo but he didn't quite understand it... 14:46:55 <planetmaker> yes 14:46:58 <Celestar> that is kind of ... awesomeish 14:47:24 <planetmaker> it's a matlab-based thing to compose stuff, or so he said :D 14:48:04 <Celestar> planetmaker: so he never finished it? 14:48:47 <peter1139> He didn't want people to make unfinished versions of it, so never released any of it 14:48:59 <planetmaker> yeah... https://rhodecode.openttdcoop.org/goldrush-trains/raw/23d2a1996774849bebb2a05845fe434822bc84bc/src/Projects/GoldRush/gfx/Houses/House_1/Stage_6.png 14:49:36 <planetmaker> he 'tried' and then decided that it's actually not his way to go 14:49:47 <Celestar> I see 14:49:50 <planetmaker> so since this commits nothing was ever heard of it again 14:49:55 <planetmaker> very sad 14:50:25 <planetmaker> I kinda offered him all the help I could, hosting, building, rendering time... alas 14:50:31 <planetmaker> programming 14:52:27 <planetmaker> he also wanted it all as one pack, houses, landscape, vehicles, industries. Sorta scenario-thingish. 14:53:19 <Celestar> one pack? 14:53:26 <planetmaker> who knows? 14:53:34 <planetmaker> I would have advised against 14:53:41 <planetmaker> s/would //g 14:55:14 <Celestar> well 14:55:21 <Celestar> it takes a lot of stamina to see THAT through 14:56:54 <planetmaker> yes. That's why smaller chunks is better. You then can actually reach goals. And you also get valuable feedback. And possibly also help from other volunteers. I'm sure he would get, if he would happily share his work 14:57:18 <planetmaker> I mean... nothing else is OpenGFX Mars. It's a complete set with everything 14:57:53 <planetmaker> but it's about as finished. but it's open and public and does get input and support. It will get finished this year quite likely 14:58:01 <planetmaker> But then... no 4x zoom... 14:58:21 <planetmaker> thus not that detailed finesse 15:13:10 <Celestar> pity. 15:13:24 <Celestar> A finished 32bpp 4x zoom DBSetXL :D 15:24:40 <Celestar> I guess that takes about 2 million years to make 15:24:53 <Celestar> is anyone actually wokring on it? 15:25:24 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 15:31:41 <planetmaker> no 15:32:29 <planetmaker> dbset is anyway the duke nukem forever of TTD 15:33:02 <planetmaker> how it ends is undetermined though, contrary to duke nukem ;) 15:33:09 <Celestar> lol 15:33:35 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@72.52.91.30] has joined #openttd 15:34:22 <Celestar> maybe I we should do it :P 15:34:42 <planetmaker> draw / render that for CETS, yes 15:35:06 <planetmaker> contrary to whatever becomes of dbset, cets is open source and not vapourware 15:37:48 <planetmaker> sprites and graphics is basically all what is missing for CETS 15:38:01 <planetmaker> eddi will disagree, but well :P 15:38:31 <Celestar> lol 15:38:35 <Celestar> disagree? why? 15:39:02 <planetmaker> he might say that it needs some code refactoring or so. Dunno really :) 15:40:30 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@1RHAACRV3.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 15:43:45 <Celestar> haha 15:43:55 <Celestar> maybe I should once try to make a single train :P 15:44:52 <planetmaker> :) 15:45:33 <Celestar> pity I have no fucking clue how to use blender 15:49:29 <peter1139> http://hg.openttd.org/developers/celestar/cargodest.hg/ 15:49:29 <planetmaker> I can sign that statement myself, too 15:49:34 <peter1139> those were the days 15:49:42 <Celestar> haha 15:49:44 <Celestar> yeah. 15:49:47 <Celestar> CUSTOMBRIDGEHEADS 15:49:50 <Celestar> *cough* 15:49:52 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:53 <peter1139> oh no 15:50:05 <peter1139> i'm fairly sure it should be easy ;p 15:50:12 * peter1139 hides 15:50:13 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:30 <planetmaker> sure it is. Someone on the internet said so. Thus it must be so 15:50:41 <peter1139> i had it working! 15:51:29 <Celestar> me too 15:51:41 <Celestar> except for some stupid reverse-on-bridgehead cornercase 15:52:15 <peter1139> It was simpler when I had it going 15:52:20 <Celestar> so, peter1139, when do we do it? :P 15:52:44 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:52:44 <peter1139> I'd have to remember how to write C/C++ first. 15:52:58 <Taede> ello 15:53:02 <planetmaker> hi Taede 15:53:22 <Celestar> peter1139: yeah me too 15:53:29 <Celestar> I'm contaminated by Java meanwhile 15:53:37 <Celestar> which sucks donkey balls and then some. 15:54:10 <peter1139> Ewww 15:54:53 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:55:17 <peter1139> I did get some stuff committed into jack1 last week. 15:55:55 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 15:56:15 <SpComb> news at 11: OpenTTD developers unable to write C/C++ code 15:57:07 <peter1139> We all started that way. 15:57:09 <Celestar> yeah. 15:57:19 <Celestar> should polish my skills again 15:57:33 <Celestar> hm 15:59:15 <planetmaker> definitely :) 16:09:29 <Celestar> first win the lottery so work is not required to pay the bills :D 16:09:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6CD2E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:15:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.183.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:20:52 <rubidium> ahoy 16:24:56 <Xaroth|Work> o/ 16:26:57 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:34:17 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 16:39:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B156.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:41:43 <Eddi|zuHause> the only way to win the lottery is not to play 16:42:03 <planetmaker> that's only statistics ;) 16:42:32 <rubidium> pff... you never win anything with a lottery or slot machines 16:42:44 <rubidium> this is based on emperical proof 16:55:47 <Eddi|zuHause> <planetmaker> he might say that it needs some code refactoring or so. Dunno really :) <-- the code is fine, what's needed is a balance run over the tracking table, and reinstating the non-german vehicles 16:57:38 <Eddi|zuHause> there are a few deeper nice-to-have things, like determining the livery or number of articulated parts in the buy menu 16:58:09 <Eddi|zuHause> but i wouldn't make a release depend on that 16:58:34 <Eddi|zuHause> and then $someone needs to get started on the accompanying track set (with curves) 16:59:18 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:59:58 <planetmaker> that requires some openttd changes. you cannot query adjacent curvature yet 17:00:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i know 17:00:09 <planetmaker> (or do I err there?) 17:00:21 <Eddi|zuHause> it's like 10LOC :) 17:00:57 <planetmaker> approximately yes. 17:01:30 <Eddi|zuHause> and then a lengthy argument on how it doesn't affect performance that much :p 17:01:53 <planetmaker> exactly :P 17:02:02 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:22:46 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 17:53:40 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:54:49 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:59:02 *** triad [~triad@5-13-93-223.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined #openttd 18:02:25 *** TheDude [~Miranda@2.237.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 18:02:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 18:02:44 <andythenorth> where is game? 18:03:42 <__ln___> afoot 18:04:18 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:08:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 18:08:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B156.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [] 18:13:37 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 18:13:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [] 18:19:20 *** triad [~triad@5-13-93-223.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:26:52 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C341C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:45:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26401 trunk/src/lang/catalan.txt (2014-03-14 18:45:08 UTC) 18:45:16 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:17 <DorpsGek> catalan - 4 changes by juanjo 18:50:20 <George> planetmaker: Are you here? 18:50:50 <George> Can you make me a contributor here http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset ? 18:57:35 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has quit [] 18:57:58 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has joined #openttd 19:01:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:01:16 <Wolf01> ciao 19:01:20 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 19:06:32 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:16:26 <andythenorth> o/ 19:16:52 <andythenorth> so has anyone won at 2048? 19:17:04 <Pinkbeast> Yes. (Not me) 19:17:22 <Pinkbeast> But I have seen a convincing existence proof for winners 19:24:28 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has joined #openttd 19:40:14 <andythenorth> I've got 1024 19:40:18 <andythenorth> but not 2048 :( 19:40:23 <andythenorth> the tactic is simple, but hard to get right 19:40:35 <Wolf01> I lost at 512 :( 19:46:33 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:47:12 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01dd2a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:49:35 <andythenorth> urgh 19:49:38 <andythenorth> too addictive 19:54:26 <andythenorth> quak 19:55:03 <frosch123> hola 19:58:46 <andythenorth> @seen pikka 19:58:46 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: pikka was last seen in #openttd 21 hours, 24 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Pikka> goodnight andythenorth 20:03:08 * andythenorth makes RVs 20:03:41 <George> @seen planetmaker 20:03:41 <DorpsGek> George: planetmaker was last seen in #openttd 3 hours, 1 minute, and 48 seconds ago: <planetmaker> exactly :P 20:20:44 * andythenorth commits 20:20:53 <andythenorth> now back to 2048 :P 20:23:05 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:23:24 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:26:11 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:28:58 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 20:39:08 *** CrystalMare [~oftc-webi@ip54509ec7.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:39:23 <CrystalMare> I'm having problems with installing openTTD on my ubuntu server 20:40:03 <CrystalMare> I keep getting a depenency error when installing the .deb file with dpkg 20:43:24 <Phreeze> which one ? 20:43:37 <Phreeze> i installed in on ubuntu 20:44:29 <CrystalMare> 12.04.4 LTS 20:44:33 <CrystalMare> x64 20:44:35 <Phreeze> which error ^^ 20:44:44 <Phreeze> copy paste the line 20:45:07 <CrystalMare> Here 20:45:09 <CrystalMare> http://i.imgur.com/9OAL1i0.png 20:45:34 <Phreeze> apt-get install liblzo2-2 ;) 20:45:37 <Phreeze> tried that ? 20:45:40 <CrystalMare> Yeah, 20:45:46 <CrystalMare> It throws another error 20:45:56 <CrystalMare> Its needs another depenency 20:46:07 <CrystalMare> The following packages have unmet dependencies: openttd : Depends: libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: openttd-opengfx but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). 20:46:56 <Phreeze> tried that ? with -f 20:46:58 <__ln___> doesn't it clearly say what to do.. 20:47:08 <Phreeze> opengfx is not needed, you can add it later 20:47:48 <CrystalMare> Alright it worked! 20:47:50 <CrystalMare> Thanks! 20:48:02 <Phreeze> lol i get even more errors^^ 20:48:19 <Phreeze> openttd:i386 depends on libfontconfig1 (>= 2.9.0); however: 20:48:20 <Phreeze> Version of libfontconfig1:i386 on system is 2.8.0-3ubuntu9.1. 20:48:26 <Phreeze> i often get those errors 20:48:38 <Phreeze> that i have the blabla-ubuntu version of a library, instead of the blabla libraray 20:48:39 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:48:53 <Phreeze> piece of horsepoop 20:49:18 <andythenorth> grrr 20:49:20 <andythenorth> 2048 20:49:49 <Phreeze> ? 20:49:53 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:50:29 <CrystalMare> Oh wait 20:50:48 <CrystalMare> Now I need to get a graphics set 20:51:05 <Eddi|zuHause> get a real distribution. or a package manager that actually knows how to resolve dependencies 20:51:15 <Phreeze> ubuntu is da realest 20:51:26 <Phreeze> even if not loved by the geeks 20:52:05 <Phreeze> even apt-get install openttd works 20:52:10 <CrystalMare> Nope 20:52:14 <CrystalMare> It installed an old version for me 20:52:15 <CrystalMare> lol 20:52:21 <CrystalMare> But I'm having another problem 20:52:24 <Phreeze> at least try: 20:52:28 <CrystalMare> I need a graphics set 20:52:29 <Phreeze> apt-get install openttd-gfx 20:52:37 <Phreeze> wait, 20:52:40 <Phreeze> apt-get install openttd-opengfx 20:52:41 <CrystalMare> Figures 20:53:02 <Phreeze> as you already installeds latest stable manually 20:53:09 <Phreeze> you can install an "old" opengfx 20:53:15 <Phreeze> and update it using the newgrf updater 20:53:41 <Phreeze> if your ubuntu is command line only, i can't give you the command, i'm using mine graphically 20:54:01 <CrystalMare> It's a VPS ;) 20:54:22 <CrystalMare> Thanks Phreeze! 20:54:25 <andythenorth> debugging with python multiprocessing is shit :( 20:56:15 <Phreeze> did it work CrystalMare 20:57:57 <CrystalMare> Yeah it did 20:58:01 <CrystalMare> Running fine now 20:59:26 <Phreeze> don't use too large maps 21:00:02 <Phreeze> i got a dedicated server, 4gb ram, dualcore amd and on a 1024 map with 3 players, the autosave causes 1second lags 21:00:32 <CrystalMare> Alright 21:00:43 <CrystalMare> I'm sticking with the 256 map 21:00:58 <CrystalMare> I got a 1GB ram single cored VPS 21:01:19 <CrystalMare> It's also running a website and teamspeak 21:01:21 <CrystalMare> so yeah :P 21:01:23 <Phreeze> easy then ;) that's less than a tablet ^^ 21:01:35 <Phreeze> yeah, ts and website dont take powe 21:01:37 <Phreeze> r 21:01:42 <CrystalMare> Yup 21:17:42 <andythenorth> stupid 2048 21:18:22 <Phreeze> map? 21:19:36 <andythenorth> http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/ 21:19:43 <andythenorth> there goes your evening 21:23:52 <Phreeze> 1224 until now ^^ 21:24:17 <andythenorth> there is a winning strategy 21:24:21 <andythenorth> but I won't spoil it for you 21:24:31 <andythenorth> there is also an AI version, which saves you wasting time :P 21:24:39 <Phreeze> DAMN stuck 21:24:42 <Phreeze> 1416 21:25:05 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:25:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 21:25:08 <andythenorth> 12104 21:25:14 <andythenorth> but I've been playing for 24 hours 21:27:25 <andythenorth> so did anyone code CanalTypes yet? o_O 21:27:40 <Phreeze> 3012-... 21:27:52 <Phreeze> i must stop now 21:27:58 <Phreeze> better stop that... 21:28:11 <andythenorth> really addictive 21:42:34 <andythenorth> her 21:42:37 <andythenorth> stupid game 21:46:04 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:47:38 *** CrystalMare [~oftc-webi@ip54509ec7.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49:31 <Eddi|zuHause> so i was at 256... 21:49:53 <andythenorth> and? 21:51:51 *** bdavenport [~davenport@chronos.rpi.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:28 <andythenorth> lost, or got bored? o_O 21:56:37 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 22:04:05 <Eddi|zuHause> lost. now at 512... 22:06:36 <__ln___> it keeps saying "game over" 22:09:23 <andythenorth> hmm 22:09:26 <andythenorth> self.track_type 22:09:33 <andythenorth> won't be needing *that* for road vehicles 22:12:30 <Xaroth|Work> andythenorth: extra road types? 22:12:41 <andythenorth> yeah 22:12:45 <andythenorth> when hell freezes over 22:26:22 <Supercheese> various cities called Hell have gotten very cold this winter ;) 22:27:36 <andythenorth> I saw a picture 22:30:20 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:32:40 <__ln___> 512 22:36:57 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 22:38:16 <Phreeze> falling asleep while playing diablo3... 22:38:18 <Phreeze> time to go to sleep 22:39:02 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: use it for distinguishing truck/tram 22:44:55 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: already got a solution for that :) 22:44:58 <andythenorth> considered it though ;) 22:46:32 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:47:10 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: what's there to solve? 22:53:54 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:47 <michi_cc> andythenorth: Damn you :) 23:03:42 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:03:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 23:07:06 <andythenorth> I am starting to really hate 2048 23:08:09 <andythenorth> the winning strategy is keep highest value tile in a corner 23:08:15 <andythenorth> but it's hard to not make mistakes 23:09:49 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-48-65.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:16:48 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:04 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:17:26 *** roadt__ [~roadt@114.96.139.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:18:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B156.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:18:56 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:25:01 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C341C.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 23:25:46 <andythenorth> bye 23:25:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:40:03 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:40:15 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.27.179.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 23:41:14 *** TheDude [~Miranda@2.237.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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