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I only notice one set in the downloadable content, i guess that is it? :-) 11:16:10 <planetmaker> that's one version of them, yes 11:16:18 <planetmaker> combine it with the other japanese stuff for a nice theme 11:16:28 <NGC3982> Will do 11:16:29 <NGC3982> Thanks 11:36:46 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-192-4.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:39:48 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:42:57 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:22 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.186.18.148.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 12:04:38 <lugo> ehm, wasn't there a setting for sepcifying the year an ai is supposed to be founded? 12:05:35 <lugo> not the specific year, but a number of years after game start 12:07:58 <NGC3982> A bell rings, yes. 12:08:35 <NGC3982> lugo: https://wiki.openttd.org/AI_settings 12:08:49 <NGC3982> Scroll down to "Configuring AIs". 12:10:16 <lugo> well, 'after the start of the last ai'... what about the first ai then? 12:10:38 <NGC3982> No, "The AIs will start automatically after a given amount of days, with some minor random variation." 12:11:00 <NGC3982> That does not seem to take the first AI into consideration. 12:11:16 <lugo> ah ok, thank you 12:11:43 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:12:01 <NGC3982> Don't count on it, i have never used it. Please try it before applying it to something serious. 12:15:30 <NGC3982> lugo: I noticed something. If you want to start a game with a preferable starting year given per specific AI, there is a column in the config file. 12:15:51 <NGC3982> The "[ai_players]" seems to have pre-written parameters on start_date. 12:16:00 <NGC3982> Although, i do not think that is applicable in-game. 12:16:20 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-70-207.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:16:28 <lugo> le pikka 12:16:47 <lugo> just trying out civil ai 12:16:53 <Pikka> o 12:17:08 <lugo> is it supposed to be used with sepcific grfs? 12:17:08 <planetmaker> lugo, for the first AI that indicates time after game start 12:17:20 <lugo> like generic cars or something 12:17:21 <planetmaker> afaik that is 12:17:28 <Pikka> it should be able to handle any newgrfs 12:17:37 <Pikka> even if it doesn't have cars, it will build busses 12:18:14 <lugo> planetmaker: ok, maybe that could be better described in the text? 12:29:20 <lugo> mh, i have some water-cycle pixels in my opengfx+trees 12:48:26 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:42 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:58:07 <lugo> http://postimg.org/image/n6brc1un3/ 12:58:42 <lugo> tried to circle the flashing pixels 13:02:29 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:04:39 <Eddi|zuHause> <NGC3982> It's always fun to use the DBSET whilst knowing how much Arriva was fined for being ass faces in Sweden. <-- wasn't there something about a cleaning woman accidently getting a train going? 13:07:21 *** George|2 [~George@185.43.94.91] has joined #openttd 13:07:21 *** George is now known as Guest3921 13:07:21 *** George|2 is now known as George 13:09:54 <Pinkbeast> Eddi|zuHause: There was a nice piece in _Steam Railway_ about a group of spotters just before the world ended in 1968 who bagged six of the then-surviving A4s on one shed. 13:10:25 <Pinkbeast> They couldn't get decent photos of them - all under cover - but there was a bit of pressure left in Kingfisher, so one of them hopped up and reversed it out into the sunlight :-) 13:11:15 *** Guest3921 [~George@185.43.94.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:34 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 13:20:06 <Eddi|zuHause> the point of the story is? 13:27:22 <Pinkbeast> Cleaning woman, nothing. Random people aren't really meant to be able to pop into sheds and start moving locomotives around. 13:28:41 <__ln___> That's a severe limitation on random people's freedom. 13:37:28 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 13:38:18 *** dxtr [8f7a8be6@000182a2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:39:34 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 13:47:00 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 13:50:00 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 14:06:33 <Eddi|zuHause> Pinkbeast: the point was, when this happened the train company was immediately like "this terrorist woman stole the train", and after a few days it was more like "well it was our fault for not securing the train correctly" (like, applying brakes) 14:10:16 <Eddi|zuHause> Pinkbeast: well i forgot to mention that the train ended up in a house near the end of the track 14:11:14 <Pinkbeast> Oh, that's a bit more dramatic. I don't imagine anything happened with mine besides the shed crew coming back and going "what the hell?" 14:16:30 <Pinkbeast> Some designs of reverser made locomotives a bit prone to going off on little trips by themselves, but the A4s didn't have that problem. 14:21:33 <Eddi|zuHause> never heard of that before 14:21:55 <NGC3982> The Audi A4? 14:22:26 <Pinkbeast> NGC3982: :-P 14:23:33 <Pinkbeast> Eddi|zuHause: There was a nasty death on the NYMR a couple of years ago where... I think Southern 825, but anyway, if you don't engage the catch the reverser can spontaneously switch from forward to reverse, and someone was crushed as a result. 14:26:47 *** APTX_ [~APTX@87-207-72-117.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 14:27:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:28:19 *** APTX [~APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:32:28 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 14:41:52 <lugo> Pikka, it's doing well. Thank you very much for that AI. I used to connect most towns with roads by hand. So this is very helpful and appreciated! 14:43:06 <Pikka> great :) 15:38:16 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 15:47:01 *** lugo [lugo@000189e6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:31 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has joined #openttd 16:04:09 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:30 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:25:37 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 16:32:25 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 16:48:43 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 16:48:48 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has quit [] 16:51:07 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 17:00:37 *** Lacsap is now known as Guest3938 17:00:37 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 17:00:41 *** Guest3938 [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:04:10 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.186.18.148.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:44 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f7438e8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:29:40 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B048.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:34:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B5F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:41:35 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:45:31 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A18EA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:50:12 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B5F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:50:21 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 17:51:25 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:51:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:54:55 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Lacsap] 17:56:17 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 18:01:23 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Lacsap] 18:06:39 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:07:17 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:980:272e:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 18:07:20 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:22:07 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@83TAAH016.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 18:24:48 <peter1139> http://games.usvsth3m.com/2048-doctor-who-edition/ 18:24:49 <peter1139> o_O 18:24:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:15 <Wolf01> gree 18:25:18 <Wolf01> ... 18:25:22 <Wolf01> greetings! 18:28:26 <Alberth> hi :) 18:35:30 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 18:37:38 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3CE3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:14:04 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:14:51 <Phreeze> puh, it's done...last EMU of the set 19:15:19 <Phreeze> but research for my steamers is very slow and i can't find enough information on all the engines....most of them don't have any pics 19:15:23 <Phreeze> no stats like power 19:15:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:15:41 <andythenorth> o/ 19:15:52 <Pikka> exactly 19:15:53 <Phreeze> only find information about those steamers that were renamed during WW2 and adopted by the Reichsbahn 19:16:41 <andythenorth> hmm 19:16:50 <andythenorth> tram is just a misc. flag 19:16:56 <andythenorth> don't see why that needs it's own class 19:17:15 <andythenorth> oh trailing units need the flag too 19:17:16 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:17 <andythenorth> hmm 19:17:36 <andythenorth> also hello bears 19:18:12 <Pikka> hallo beers 19:18:19 <andythenorth> oh look a pikka bear 19:18:35 <andythenorth> hello Pikka 19:18:46 <andythenorth> did you make it yet? 19:19:01 <Pikka> just madgelevs to go 19:19:04 <Pikka> silly madgelevs 19:19:35 <Pikka> or did you mean gamescript 19:19:41 <andythenorth> magdeburglevs 19:19:41 <Pikka> didn't make that yet 19:20:01 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdeburg 19:20:43 <Pikka> but mostly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madge_Bishop 19:23:27 <andythenorth> Haroldlevs 19:25:32 <Pikka> oui 19:37:16 <andythenorth> bouncerlevs 19:37:17 <andythenorth> hmm 19:37:22 <andythenorth> this might get silly 19:37:26 <andythenorth> if we play long enough 19:37:30 <Pikka> "might" 19:37:37 <Pikka> goodnight wallyweb 19:37:39 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-70-207.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:37:51 <andythenorth> bye pikka chops 19:38:35 <Phreeze> pikkachoochoo 19:45:10 <andythenorth> hmm 19:46:22 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5907/hog-2.png 19:46:23 <Alberth> hi 19:46:25 <andythenorth> I dunno 19:46:32 <andythenorth> I have 8 buses to add to that list 19:46:43 <andythenorth> for a 75 year game, that's quite enough trucks 19:46:50 <andythenorth> for a 150 year game, it might be not enough 19:47:51 <Alberth> don't play 150 years? :) 19:48:09 <Alberth> or repeat from the start after 100 years :) 19:48:30 <andythenorth> lol :) 19:49:33 <Alberth> make the stats decreasing could be a nice twist too :p 19:49:44 <andythenorth> 'due to legal constraints' 19:49:50 <andythenorth> diminishing vehicles 19:50:00 <andythenorth> eventually everything is 1t 19:50:04 <andythenorth> but travels at 150mph 19:50:09 <andythenorth> one piece flow 19:50:22 <andythenorth> maybe I should add quadcopters 19:55:18 <V453000> LOL Alberth 19:55:31 <V453000> it is sad that many vehicle sets obey your suggestion to the point :D 19:55:35 <V453000> for the most part 19:55:45 <andythenorth> ? 19:55:53 <V453000> decreasing stats 19:59:02 <peter1139> neeeeiiiighbours 20:00:59 <andythenorth> that's when good neighbours 20:01:52 <peter1139> become good friends 20:01:53 <Phreeze> nice trams andy 20:04:28 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 20:05:18 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:24 <planetmaker> looks pretty monotonuous list, andythenorth ;) 20:05:46 <andythenorth> saves on drawing sprites 20:06:11 <planetmaker> invert colour scheme on every 2nd? :) 20:08:39 <V453000> LOL 20:27:05 <Phreeze> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mjVaFvZP1g 20:27:08 <Phreeze> read description 20:27:15 <Phreeze> i wonder if that guy is dumb or dumb 20:27:37 <NGC3982> Haha :D 20:29:32 <frosch123> Phreeze: sounds like the ottd scenarios with CC-BY-ND license 20:35:28 <Phreeze> hm, don't know those scenarios 20:40:34 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )] 20:43:43 *** bcmpinc [~unknown@dhcp-077-251-163-039.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:44:43 <bcmpinc> Hi, git.openttd.org seems to be down, as it is giving 502 - bad gateway errors. 20:44:50 <andythenorth> split the trams https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5908/hog-3.png 20:47:44 <V453000> they look nice andythenorth 20:50:25 <andythenorth> I could put some actual graphics in 20:50:51 <V453000> what no 20:50:59 <V453000> that would completely destroy the idea of the set wouldnt it 20:51:16 <andythenorth> I could add a parameter 20:51:21 <andythenorth> 'all graphics same' 20:51:23 <V453000> :DDD 20:51:32 <V453000> btw nuts will get its first parameter after 2 years :D 20:51:36 <andythenorth> V453000: I might do no cargo support 20:51:40 <V453000> :D 20:53:20 *** bcmpinc [~unknown@dhcp-077-251-163-039.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:58:20 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 21:05:18 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.186.18.148.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 21:05:47 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:07:33 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3CE3.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:24:12 <V453000> can I make articulated vehicles look different without creating a new item? 21:24:45 <V453000> like an engine articulating itself, but the articulated parts having different sprites 21:25:30 *** Jomann [~abchirk@f053034041.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 21:26:22 <V453000> -like a tender- 21:26:33 <andythenorth> you don't already? o_O 21:26:46 <V453000> no I always do it through another item atm 21:26:49 <andythenorth> yes you can do it 21:26:57 <andythenorth> frosch added some stuff recently that makes it easier 21:27:00 <andythenorth> iird 21:27:00 <V453000> some switch with is_vehicle_articulated? 21:27:15 <andythenorth> you probably want to count the position in the articulated consist? 21:27:26 <V453000> pretty much 21:27:52 <andythenorth> position_in_articulated_veh 21:27:54 <andythenorth> and position_in_articulated_veh_from_end 21:27:55 <frosch123> you can make stuff depend on the first articulated part 21:27:56 <V453000> excellent 21:27:57 <V453000> thanks 21:28:01 <andythenorth> thank frosch123 ;) 21:28:08 <V453000> (. 21:28:30 <frosch123> i think there is some example code somewhere 21:28:36 <frosch123> probably in iron horse 21:29:53 <andythenorth> unfortunately not 21:30:02 <andythenorth> I am ashamed to say I never used the new var :) 21:30:21 <andythenorth> why do something simple, when you can do this? o_O 21:30:22 <andythenorth> expression_template = Template("[STORE_TEMP(${offset}, 0x10F), var[0x61, 0, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0x25]]") 21:31:02 <andythenorth> followed by another switch 21:31:03 <andythenorth> expression_template = Template("[STORE_TEMP(${offset}, 0x10F), var[0x61, 0, 0x0000FFFF, 0xC6]]") 21:31:16 <andythenorth> have fun with figuring out what I did :P 21:33:02 <andythenorth> IH is very expensive on vehicle IDs :P 21:33:08 <andythenorth> is all I'm saying 21:34:25 <frosch123> well, V wants [ STORE_TEMP(- position_in_articulated_veh, 0x10F), var[0x61, 0, 0xFFFF, 0xC6] ] 21:34:39 <V453000> oh god not this again :D 21:34:44 <V453000> it is in rainbow slugs somewhere 21:34:58 <V453000> isnt it 21:35:00 <andythenorth> V453000: you can probably do it simple :) 21:35:58 <V453000> any idea how? :) 21:36:07 <V453000> ah yeah 21:36:08 <V453000> trying 21:36:16 <andythenorth> just a switch checking that var 21:36:22 <V453000> y 21:36:26 <andythenorth> with different spritesets for results... 21:38:15 <V453000> unrecognized identifier 21:38:17 <V453000> I needs new NML? 21:38:22 <planetmaker> V453000, position_in_articulated_veh 21:38:33 <planetmaker> as variable 21:38:44 <planetmaker> position_in_articulated_veh_from_end 21:38:56 <planetmaker> dunno which NML you use. Always use 'latest' :P 21:39:06 <V453000> I have like oldest atm :D :P 21:39:07 <V453000> will update 21:39:34 <planetmaker> that's very new. And need OpenTTD 1.4.0.r26157 21:39:46 <planetmaker> and some new-ish NML 21:39:52 <V453000> yarr 21:39:53 <frosch123> nml from 2013-12-13 20:45 21:40:07 <Eddi|zuHause> man this fibonacci 2048 is genuinely driving me crazy :p 21:40:21 <andythenorth> oh you really raised the game :( 21:40:30 * andythenorth worries for Eddi|zuHause 21:40:41 <planetmaker> good night 21:40:45 <andythenorth> bye planetmaker :) 21:40:47 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i did win it :p 21:41:00 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:41:30 <Eddi|zuHause> but it's so difficult seeing which ones will merge. suddenly they all merge into one and you didn't even realize it would work :p 21:42:15 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:980:272e:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 21:48:28 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:48:34 <fjb> Moin 21:48:39 <frosch123> quak 21:48:45 <V453000> SHIT 21:48:53 <fjb> Quak frosch123 21:48:55 <V453000> new NML requires switch to have return? 21:49:00 <V453000> not just 0: 1: 21:49:03 <V453000> I guess? 21:49:05 <frosch123> we got the other end of the V cow 21:49:31 <V453000> it does 21:49:34 <V453000> jesus christ 21:49:38 <V453000> I need to fix ALL of my switches 21:49:40 <frosch123> i am not aware of any nml change in that area 21:49:40 <V453000> ._. 21:49:50 <frosch123> unless it is 3 years ago :p 21:49:50 <andythenorth> no templating? :( 21:49:53 <V453000> NML screams unexpected token } 21:50:01 <V453000> :D andy, no. 21:50:11 <frosch123> andythenorth: V does the anti-templating :) 21:50:15 <andythenorth> be faster to 'fix' nml if it is an issue 21:50:53 <V453000> fuck I I just fix switches 21:51:17 <andythenorth> how many? 21:51:36 <V453000> idk, 50k lines of code 21:51:58 <V453000> hm 21:52:01 <V453000> this is utter shit :| 21:52:45 <andythenorth> maybe someone can write a sed rule or such 21:53:17 <andythenorth> I'd probably try it in python, but I'm a dumbass :P 21:53:20 <V453000> that would probably take time, I will have it quicker if I just add return everywhere 21:53:46 <V453000> but this is exactly the thing why I absolutely hate to update nml 21:54:25 <andythenorth> python has some triple split thing, split on switch, then on } then add 'return blah' and rejoin :P 21:54:33 <andythenorth> I dunno, probably it wouldn't work 21:54:48 <andythenorth> I write stuff like that quite often to fix my broken code 21:55:10 <andythenorth> see if Eddi|zuHause will do it, he's much smarter than me ;) 21:55:40 <V453000> aha 21:55:45 <V453000> return isnt exactly necessary 21:55:49 <V453000> it just needs the default value 21:55:53 <V453000> typing result isnt a must 21:55:53 <Xaroth|Work> o_O 21:55:58 <Xaroth|Work> tripple split? 21:56:39 <V453000> well I am at 7200 lines already, might not be that long :) 21:57:41 <V453000> SWITCH FROSCH CODED IS BORKD 21:57:41 <V453000> :D 21:57:42 <V453000> !!! 21:58:01 <NGC3982> :( 21:58:04 <frosch123> pff, waranty expired long ago 21:58:07 <V453000> hm 21:58:08 <V453000> sec 21:58:10 <V453000> wtf is this 21:58:25 <V453000> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3189/ 21:58:28 <V453000> what can I put to return? 21:58:47 <V453000> certainly not hm this is :D 21:58:59 <V453000> ... anything I guess 21:59:05 <frosch123> yup, anything :) 21:59:06 <NGC3982> Aren't you guys suppose to idle? 21:59:09 <V453000> my god 22:00:15 <V453000> I just HOPE this wont break anything :D 22:01:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18EA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:14 <andythenorth> Xaroth|Work: string.partition() 22:01:29 <Xaroth|Work> ah, yes 22:01:38 <Xaroth|Work> <pre split> <splitting entity> <post split> iirc 22:01:39 <andythenorth> not actually needed for this case :P 22:01:47 <andythenorth> I thought about it some more 22:06:15 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:25 <V453000> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 22:07:29 <V453000> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 22:07:32 <V453000> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 22:07:53 <andythenorth> :) 22:08:09 <V453000> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dpd1kyf48gkj6lb/6U0r6U-T39 22:08:14 <V453000> after fixing many switches 22:08:17 <V453000> :D 22:08:28 <V453000> with latest nml 22:09:33 <V453000> what the actual fuck 22:09:38 <V453000> now it throws new errors on line 629 22:09:45 <V453000> toolbar_caption: string(STR_RAIL); in railtypes? 22:10:08 <frosch123> what does "nmlc --version" say? 22:10:27 <glx> (latest is not a version ;) ) 22:10:36 <V453000> 0.2.5.r2135:6f38df710194 22:10:43 <V453000> guess that isnt latest 22:10:46 <V453000> was r4k something? 22:10:52 <V453000> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/LATEST/ 22:10:53 <V453000> hm :) 22:10:54 <frosch123> 0.2 is bollocks 22:10:59 <V453000> uhm 22:11:02 <frosch123> no surprise you had to change stuff 22:11:02 <V453000> so what have I fucked up 22:11:11 <frosch123> you changed it to an older syntax :p 22:11:18 <frosch123> anyway, var is named "position_in_articulated_veh" 22:11:21 <V453000> I overwrote my documents/user/NML 22:11:23 <V453000> where else is nml? 22:11:30 <V453000> O 22:11:44 * andythenorth -> bed 22:11:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:12:14 <frosch123> V453000: i guess blame planetmaker 22:12:21 <V453000> hm 22:12:25 <frosch123> the compile farm does weird "latest" things 22:12:30 <V453000> aha 22:12:39 <V453000> so I just download the highest rev manually 22:12:41 <V453000> lets try 22:13:30 <V453000> okay 22:13:33 <V453000> no :D 22:14:10 <V453000> k 5100 works 22:14:15 <V453000> 5114 is borkd 22:14:49 <frosch123> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/5114/ <- try that one 22:14:53 <V453000> that I tried 22:14:54 <frosch123> it says 0.3 ni the changelog 22:15:20 <frosch123> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/v5114/ <- or that one 22:16:10 <V453000> aha I tried the v5114 22:16:13 <V453000> not the one without v 22:16:14 <V453000> trying 22:16:44 <V453000> r2129 22:16:49 <V453000> too 22:17:18 <frosch123> 2129 shuold also work 22:17:24 <V453000> no 22:17:30 <V453000> r2129 old as hell? :d 22:17:45 <V453000> 5100 gives a ton of case mismatch to path things, but lets see if it works 22:17:51 <frosch123> there is a difference in the naming schema :) 22:17:58 <V453000> oh christ 22:18:12 <V453000> okay 22:18:19 <frosch123> the 5x names are borked for nml since they do not deal with branches 22:18:19 <V453000> so 2135 didnt, 2129 might? 22:18:27 <peter1139> Eddi|zuHause, yup 22:18:33 <frosch123> 2129..2135 should work 22:18:40 <V453000> 35 didnt 22:18:46 <frosch123> what did it do? 22:19:02 <V453000> switch fixing and the toolbar caption thing at railtypes 22:19:20 <V453000> yeah 22:19:24 <V453000> 29 does the same 22:19:52 <frosch123> where do you get them from? 22:19:53 <V453000> lets see if 5100 has the articulated thing 22:19:57 <V453000> from nmlc 22:20:06 <V453000> unknown property: toolbar_caption 22:20:18 <frosch123> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/push/LATEST/ <- try that one 22:20:34 <frosch123> not "nightly" but "push" 22:21:30 <V453000> I will try to let it complete the compilation, sec should only take a few minutes 22:23:05 <Eddi|zuHause> <V453000> I just HOPE this wont break anything :D <-- there's always "revert" for that :p 22:25:48 <V453000> well it looks like 5100 has the articulated property 22:25:58 <V453000> so if nothing else, that works :D 22:26:55 <V453000> great 22:27:04 <V453000> lets try the push thing just out of curiosity 22:27:49 <V453000> r2135 22:28:32 <V453000> back to 5100, the things I need for now seem to work :) thanks 22:33:15 <Wolf01> 'night 22:33:18 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:33:24 <peter1139> Hmm, got a 987. 22:34:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i just lost with a 15xx and two 6xx 22:34:43 <Eddi|zuHause> because i made a wrong move :/ 22:43:00 <NGC3982> I suddenly enjoy having all the trees visible when i play. 22:49:03 <frosch123> night 22:49:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f7438e8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:05:16 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@13-17-191-195.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05:16 *** PhoenixII [~ralph@13-17-191-195.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined #openttd 23:12:16 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 23:26:28 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f5cb:c3b8:3821:bd61] has joined #openttd 23:26:28 *** glx is now known as Guest3960 23:26:28 *** glx_ is now known as glx 23:32:40 *** Guest3960 [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:55:09 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit []